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I watched the comeback race of Kimi Raikkonen and I have to say (also as a fan) he is still a racer, he was on a very good way until Stage 3 and partly in the TOP 10. A remarkable performance considering it was his first weekend in a NASCAR, definitely he hasn't lost his bite and talent yet. Unfortunately he had a bit of bad luck in Stage 3 and was little pushed out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw8ae8R-cBw

https://www.speedweek.com/formel1/news/196969/Kimi-Raeikkoenen-NASCAR-Comeback-endet-mit-Crash.html

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Ducati won although by very little margin it won.Bagnaia came out first after the 28 laps race at Spielberg so now in theory the MotoGP Championship remains exciting but we all know that Fabio remains the huge favorite to win the title still.That is because there are not a lot of tracks suitable for Ducati anymore,they are tracks that are overall good for every MotoGP team and Fabio is still leading comfortably so far.

Now there are three riders in fight for the title,Quartararo the huge favorite,Espargaro the title run up contender and now even Bagnaia is not that far,the points difference is just 44 and we now this amount is irrelevant for the number of races left in the MotoGP,a single crash can change a lot in the standings.

Exactly, there are still 7 races to go, so a maximum of 175 points, now every retirement is decisive, should Bagnaia or Aleix both fail once, Fabio will bring the lead over the laps, of course, should Fabio fail again, the two could catch up it remains in any case exciting.

The penultimate GP in Malaysia favours the Ducatis once again, otherwise the Aprilia, Ducati or Fabio should be able to win at every circuit.
The different point is not far, 32 points and 12 points. And what like you said if one of them fails once, the position will change on 2 races. but IMO, too hard to make Quartararo fail from a podium or not get the points next. As I can see in Austria how he predece Jorge martin on lap 10 and Miller on lap 5 shows him a great racer who can't easily beat him for the title.
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In F1 we have a salary cap.

The teams can't spend over a fixed amount of money during the whole season.
Considering the world inflation, the FIA decided to give teams an "Inflation bonus" and teams can now spend 4 more million USD during the season.

Is it the same amount for all the teams or is it bigger for the top three teams, namely Mercedes, Red Bull and Ferrari?  And even if it's the same across the board, I think the team that would benefit from it the most if...  *drum roll*...  Mercedes.  I'm not saying is a bad thing or anything.  They're at the cusp of rediscovering themselves.  A little more nudge and I think the could be winning races for the rest of the season.  Both Ferrari and Red Bull should watch out.

Anyway...  Spa this weekend folks.  Wink

2022 F1 Belgian GP Schedule

Track:  Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps



Practice 1:  FRI 14:00 - 15:00
Practice 2:  FRI 17:00 - 18:00
Practice 3:  SAT 13:00 - 14:00
Qualifying:  SAT 16:00 - 17:00
Race:  SUN 15:00 - 17:00
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Exactly, there are still 7 races to go, so a maximum of 175 points, now every retirement is decisive, should Bagnaia or Aleix both fail once, Fabio will bring the lead over the laps, of course, should Fabio fail again, the two could catch up it remains in any case exciting.

The penultimate GP in Malaysia favours the Ducatis once again, otherwise the Aprilia, Ducati or Fabio should be able to win at every circuit.
Fabio Quartararo only needs to be consistent to get a second podium in the remaining 7 races without errors or crashes and ensure that the one who gets the first podium is not Aleix Espargaro. Because Aleix Espargaro is the rider who has the closest points to Fabio Quartararo at the moment so Aleix Espargaro is the person Fabio Quartararo has to watch out for besides Bagnaia. Because Bagnaia needs to win all the remaining races by not making any mistakes in order to be able to fight for the world championship this season.
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Ducati won although by very little margin it won.Bagnaia came out first after the 28 laps race at Spielberg so now in theory the MotoGP Championship remains exciting but we all know that Fabio remains the huge favorite to win the title still.That is because there are not a lot of tracks suitable for Ducati anymore,they are tracks that are overall good for every MotoGP team and Fabio is still leading comfortably so far.

Now there are three riders in fight for the title,Quartararo the huge favorite,Espargaro the title run up contender and now even Bagnaia is not that far,the points difference is just 44 and we now this amount is irrelevant for the number of races left in the MotoGP,a single crash can change a lot in the standings.

Exactly, there are still 7 races to go, so a maximum of 175 points, now every retirement is decisive, should Bagnaia or Aleix both fail once, Fabio will bring the lead over the laps, of course, should Fabio fail again, the two could catch up it remains in any case exciting.

The penultimate GP in Malaysia favours the Ducatis once again, otherwise the Aprilia, Ducati or Fabio should be able to win at every circuit.
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I saw there was a CryptoData sponsor at the Austrian Red Bull Ring circuit yesterday and now I'm starting to find out about it. Then I found out about CryptoData where CryptoDATA develops products based on blockchain technology that guarantee user security and data encryption that applies in various fields. And here is the site: https://cryptodata.com/ Is that true ? if that's true, then I think crypto companies have been very friendly too in this part of Europe, especially in Austria itself.
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There is less than a week left for the upcoming race in Spa. This is one of the special races in F1. The competition between Leclerc and Verstappen can be tighter here. Leclerc's morale might have dropped quite much after simple mistakes. He is still a very ambitious driver even though he has only a slight chance for the championship now. He would do his best but the team must help him at the same time. They have been like Leclerc's enemy so far.
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In F1 we have a salary cap.

The teams can't spend over a fixed amount of money during the whole season.
Considering the world inflation, the FIA decided to give teams an "Inflation bonus" and teams can now spend 4 more million USD during the season.

I strongly disagree that teams need more money.
While the richest teams consider that this is still insufficient to cover the expenses they say they have, for the “poorest”, it further highlights the abyss that exists between the two ends of this dispute and collaborates to keep F1 more and more uneven.
We all agree that inflation is rampant, but I doubt that a tighter budget would prevent teams from continuing to innovate and compete in GPs.
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In F1 we have a salary cap.

The teams can't spend over a fixed amount of money during the whole season.
Considering the world inflation, the FIA decided to give teams an "Inflation bonus" and teams can now spend 4 more million USD during the season.
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It’s not always a move forward if you ask me. Whenever there is a huge move like what we will see in 2026, it always changes it a bit worse first before it gets better.

Look at the last one and how it changed the sport completely. F1 became Mercedes league and everyone else just tried to survive and nothing more. Ferrari and Red Bull tried, failed to get constructors, and only Red Bull got one driver win last year finally, 8 titles in a row.

If 2026 sees another team being that great, that is going to be a trouble. Nobody could make me believe that teams are not already spending insane amounts to build it already behind closed doors neither by the way, they are definitely doing it somewhere. So, one team will start off better than everyone and I hope we would watch teams close, not one team winning 8 titles again.
That is just a leeway to make it better, because you start from the lowest point of a better thing compared to highest point of a worse thing. Like you could have something that can start from 20 and go to 100, and then have something that starts at 80 but goes to 150, this means by the time you hit 100 on the first one, you go back to 80 of the new one but you were blocked and couldn't get any better with the old one, yet the new one could be much better with improvements.

This means maybe it will be a tiny bit slower for the time being with this new upgrade, but that's in 2026 so I am sure all teams would have more than enough time to start very well if you ask me.
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Looks like a pure Ducati podium today, possibly Vinales could still ride on the podium, hope that Bagnaia comes through and makes further ground on Fabio, so the world championship remains exciting. Also think that Aleix will still overtake Fabio and so the first three slip even further together.

Ducati won although by very little margin it won.Bagnaia came out first after the 28 laps race at Spielberg so now in theory the MotoGP Championship remains exciting but we all know that Fabio remains the huge favorite to win the title still.That is because there are not a lot of tracks suitable for Ducati anymore,they are tracks that are overall good for every MotoGP team and Fabio is still leading comfortably so far.

Now there are three riders in fight for the title,Quartararo the huge favorite,Espargaro the title run up contender and now even Bagnaia is not that far,the points difference is just 44 and we now this amount is irrelevant for the number of races left in the MotoGP,a single crash can change a lot in the standings.
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Looks like a pure Ducati podium today, possibly Vinales could still ride on the podium, hope that Bagnaia comes through and makes further ground on Fabio, so the world championship remains exciting. Also think that Aleix will still overtake Fabio and so the first three slip even further together.
Bagnaia is still 44 points behind Fabio Quartararo as Fabio managed to finish the race in 2nd place after starting the race from the 5th grid today. And if Fabio Quartararo can still consistently get the 2nd podium in the remaining 7 races this season, then Fabio will become world champion this season again even though in all 7 races Bagnaia won.
Because Bagnaia was only able to approach with a total of 35 points in the remaining 7 races.
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Looks like a pure Ducati podium today, possibly Vinales could still ride on the podium, hope that Bagnaia comes through and makes further ground on Fabio, so the world championship remains exciting. Also think that Aleix will still overtake Fabio and so the first three slip even further together.
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The type of the Red Bull Ring circuit indeed suitable for the Ducati Desmosedici
And historically, Ducati has a good record at this circuit. Ducati has won six wins at the Red Bull Ring since 2016.
But before the race, Red Bull Ring has revealed a layout change by adding a new chicane for Turn 2
The new chicane will be a difficult challenge because it has to reduce the top speed.
It will be interesting to see whether Ducati can conquer this new challenge in the race.
From the qualifying results it can be concluded that Ducati has the potential to win today's race although unexpected things can happen and I would be very surprised if any other manufacturer besides Ducati wins today. Because changes like the new Chicane won't have much effect on the Ducati bike because the Ducati bike has a lot of power and traction.


It's now official, there will be a sprint race at every MotoGP race in 2023. Since apparently FP4 and Q1 and Q2 on Saturday will not be canceled, this could be very exhausting for the MotoGP riders, a very dense program. I am curious about the new format.

https://www.speedweek.com/motogp/news/196812/Jetzt-offiziell-MotoGP-Sprintrennen-am-Samstag-2023.html
The Sprint Race is almost the same as the one made at the WSBK event and I see that there are still many pros and cons to the Sprint Race because Dorna never asked for ideas from the racers so there are some people who still don't agree with the Sprint Race even though the FP4 is abolished, but Q1 and Q2 for the Sprint Race grid will still be applied so that the drivers are very tired. Although Dorna's goal of holding a Sprint Race is to attract more people to like MotoGP which will ultimately affect Dorna's income.

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/quartararo-slams-totally-stupid-motogp-sprint-race-plans/10354893/
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Mah, I don't like it in Moto.

What is the point of having them, it is so easy to overtake anyway in a motorbike.

It makes sense to have them In F1, but I can't see why we will have them there.

I also can't tell yet if sprint racing on Saturday in MotoGP is a good idea, but we'll see next year.

Regarding yesterday's qualifying, it's absolute Ducati country in Austria, but the weather is unstable at the moment and anything can happen.
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I've been following F1 for almost 2 decades and I can say that the evolution of this sport is something wonderful to see.
I would never have imagined that F1 would one day have electric motors, but today that seems to me to be something practically certain.
Formula E is a great inspiration for the teams and I believe that very soon both can be "merged" into the same championship, as there will be no more reason to have two categories (F1 and FE).
It’s not always a move forward if you ask me. Whenever there is a huge move like what we will see in 2026, it always changes it a bit worse first before it gets better.

Look at the last one and how it changed the sport completely. F1 became Mercedes league and everyone else just tried to survive and nothing more. Ferrari and Red Bull tried, failed to get constructors, and only Red Bull got one driver win last year finally, 8 titles in a row.

If 2026 sees another team being that great, that is going to be a trouble. Nobody could make me believe that teams are not already spending insane amounts to build it already behind closed doors neither by the way, they are definitely doing it somewhere. So, one team will start off better than everyone and I hope we would watch teams close, not one team winning 8 titles again.
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It's now official, there will be a sprint race at every MotoGP race in 2023. Since apparently FP4 and Q1 and Q2 on Saturday will not be canceled, this could be very exhausting for the MotoGP riders, a very dense program. I am curious about the new format.

https://www.speedweek.com/motogp/news/196812/Jetzt-offiziell-MotoGP-Sprintrennen-am-Samstag-2023.html

Mah, I don't like it in Moto.

What is the point of having them, it is so easy to overtake anyway in a motorbike.

It makes sense to have them In F1, but I can't see why we will have them there.
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We will have new engines in F1 in  4 years on the year 2026.

They will triple the power of the electric part and they will decrease by 37% the combustion power...

Theoretical simulation is... same output power.

It's a long shot with the V6 but hopefully they get at least the semblance of the screaming V8's - V10's engine sound back.  When I think of F1, it's the screaming engines that always come to mind.  It's just different without it although there have been the lawn mower sounding engines in the past.

Anyway are there any updates with the Ferrari side?  The season would start to suck if Verstappen starts dominating...  :/
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It's now official, there will be a sprint race at every MotoGP race in 2023. Since apparently FP4 and Q1 and Q2 on Saturday will not be canceled, this could be very exhausting for the MotoGP riders, a very dense program. I am curious about the new format.

https://www.speedweek.com/motogp/news/196812/Jetzt-offiziell-MotoGP-Sprintrennen-am-Samstag-2023.html
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Yesterday's FP2 MotoGP session was occupied by Ducati motorcycles in the top 8 with a total of 7 Ducati motorcycles from various teams and there was only one Japanese manufacturer there, namely Yamaha with Fabio Quartararo. And I'm starting to be curious to see today's session, where Ducati still has the potential to dominate the top 8 because there are 7 Ducati motorcycles that are included in the Q2 session.

The type of the Red Bull Ring circuit indeed suitable for the Ducati Desmosedici
And historically, Ducati has a good record at this circuit. Ducati has won six wins at the Red Bull Ring since 2016.
But before the race, Red Bull Ring has revealed a layout change by adding a new chicane for Turn 2
The new chicane will be a difficult challenge because it has to reduce the top speed.
It will be interesting to see whether Ducati can conquer this new challenge in the race.
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