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If we talk about Marquez's standings, he has just taken it back from Bastianini who also occupied that position before the Aragon Race. This means that the third position occupied by Marquez is still not so safe considering his distance from Bastianini in fourth place in the standings and this weekend MotoGP will be held again at the San Marino Misano circuit in Italy which is the home of Italian riders so we hope there will be much fiercer competition so that the show does not become boring.

Why boring? But it's right, San Marino GP in Misano is definitely a Ducati track (I was there live last year), Bagnaia has a lot to make up for this weekend, but last year's winner was Martin, so it won't be easy for Bagnaia, and I'm also curious to see if M. Marquez can confirm his form from Aragon. In any case, I assume there will be a Ducati winner.

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Quote from: alegotardo on September 04, 2024, 07:28:54 PM

The fact is that there is no ban on this and the FIA itself has said several times that it has no interest in making any changes to the rules this season and, if it finds it necessary to react, this will only happen from the beginning of 2025, if it happens... since the regulations are expected to be officially changed only in 2026.

Of course there is no ban.
Teams need to test their parts before to be able to race.

Every team send components to FIA and FIA do the standard tests, if the wings pass the stress tests, with weight in different places at different "speeds" then Wings are no bannable.

If teams do something else cleaver to get a flex wing in others cases then FIA needs to change the tests.

As you said this is not the first time, RBR were the one abusing it like 5 years ago.

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Quote from: moneystery on September 04, 2024, 11:13:19 AM

marquez deserved the podium after how he slumped when he was with honda and he was able to adapt well to this bike and give the best results. even if i am not a fan of him, i am happy to see how he got the podium that he has been waiting for. he is now in third position in the motogp standing, and that is already a very good result that he can show and most likely he can still increase his points.

If we talk about Marquez's standings, he has just taken it back from Bastianini who also occupied that position before the Aragon Race. This means that the third position occupied by Marquez is still not so safe considering his distance from Bastianini in fourth place in the standings and this weekend MotoGP will be held again at the San Marino Misano circuit in Italy which is the home of Italian riders so we hope there will be much fiercer competition so that the show does not become boring.

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Unexpected win for Ferrari and Charles Leclerc today in Monza.
Second win for him in Ferrari's Gp.

Another missed opportunity for Mclearen, another win lost, with a better strategy and a no fight on lap 1 between them it was an easy win.

Max now must be worried about the situation, without Adrian Newey RBR is not the same anymore.

Yup totally unexpected. I kinda stopped focusing on the race when I thought Piastri was gonna win it. But then I got back into it at the last three laps and was totally surprised that Leclerc was leading. Lol. I guess I'll watch the highlights at F1's YT. It also looks like Leclerc is starting to come on his own. I saw some clips of him telling his team to stfu when they kept bugging him about some brake setting. Cheesy

And yeah, both of Leclerc's wins are special to him... Monaco and Italy. The former is where he lives, the other one is his team's home race. Good one for Leclerc. Love to see him win.

Basically Mclaren thought that two stints was the way to go (most everyone did so) and Ferrari probably made a mistake that just got lucky and did one stint. Surely the pit stop gives you about 20-25 seconds of break, but then you get fresher tires and go faster, and McLaren had the speed so they thought they could, but somehow Ferrari just kept it going for further and di not lose the position and won.

It's clear that one sting was better option, but looks like it will not be all that much of a good news in the end for Ferrari since they just won by luck. Mclaren will keep on being better and they will keep on getting good results, it is not a secret that we are going to see this situation working for Mclaren for this season and probably next one too.

Stint? You mean pit? Yeah... But if I remember it right Leclerc had the mediums then the hards and just managed his tires better than Norris and Piastri who were forced to pit again. So it wasn't luck. It was all part of the plan imho as the hards prolly has a good 30 laps in them if managed really well.

Anyway it's prolly starting to look like a season for the McLaren to lose. But they have another year to go at it before the new rules on 2026.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on September 04, 2024, 03:34:28 PM

RBR made an official protest at FIA against Mercedes and Mclaren.
They are saying that those 2 teams are using flexible wings... what an hypocrisy.

Do you remember 4 years ago the wings of RBR?

Anyway FIA already responded and said that no rules has been broken.

Red Bull can just cry more. McLaren is coming for the championship and it looks like there is nobody who can stop that.

Instead of complaining desperately, Red Bull should just focus on what they are doing wrong lately. I have no doubt Verstappen is losing hope about his team day by day. I would like to remind a fact. He doesn't have any special sympathy for Red Bull. He can easily sign for a better team if things go on like this.

https://x.com/RBR_Daily/status/1830974202637361675

Adrian Newey is about to sign for Aston Martin officially. This is going to be a huge move. I have no doubt we will see this brilliant engineer's touches very clearly on the car. Maybe one day we can see Verstappen there... Grin

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on September 04, 2024, 03:34:28 PM

RBR made an official protest at FIA against Mercedes and Mclaren.
They are saying that those 2 teams are using flexible wings... what an hypocrisy.

Do you remember 4 years ago the wings of RBR?

Anyway FIA already responded and said that no rules has been broken.

This controversy involves many more teams, as Maranello and Milton Keynes are also demanding to know from the FIA what the limits are for Mercedes and McLaren to use this accessory.

In fact, if I remember correctly, the use of flexible wings began to be a hot topic, especially after the Monza GP, but this controversy has been going on since the beginning of the year, when these teams discovered that using this area is one of the options for resolving balance issues affecting the current generation of cars.

The fact is that there is no ban on this and the FIA itself has said several times that it has no interest in making any changes to the rules this season and, if it finds it necessary to react, this will only happen from the beginning of 2025, if it happens... since the regulations are expected to be officially changed only in 2026.

Obviously, it is normal for some teams to be concerned about the growing competitiveness of McLaren and Mercedes in the last stages, so these disputes will always occur until there is a regulation on this.

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RBR made an official protest at FIA against Mercedes and Mclaren.
They are saying that those 2 teams are using flexible wings... what an hypocrisy.

Do you remember 4 years ago the wings of RBR?

Anyway FIA already responded and said that no rules has been broken.

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Technically speaking Ferrari could definitely win, but I doubt that will happen because Mclaren is much better, one thing that will be shocking to see is that Red Bull could be third place, and Max could still win. I do not know how frequently we get constructors and drivers have different teams, but in this case it would not even be second, it would be third place, which shows how terrible Perez actually is, because if Perez did anything even remotely close to Max then they would have been good.

The domination of Red Bull lasted like just three seasons, they had one of the greatest dominations ever just recently, and yet now they look like they are third or even fourth fastest car, Mclaren is faster than them by a mile, and Ferrari looks faster, and to be fair Mercedes even looks faster right now. Whatever Red Bull has to do, they have to do it quickly otherwise they are going to lose the title, not only team but Max may end up losing as well if he keeps getting worse results.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on September 01, 2024, 08:11:29 AM

A generally very bad weekend for Bagnaia, scoring only one point in total and then a stupid racing accident today, Bagnaia would probably prefer to forget the weekend.

But a perfect weekend for M. Marquez, congratulations to him, nobody could have beaten M. Marquez this weekend.

marquez deserved the podium after how he slumped when he was with honda and he was able to adapt well to this bike and give the best results. even if i am not a fan of him, i am happy to see how he got the podium that he has been waiting for. he is now in third position in the motogp standing, and that is already a very good result that he can show and most likely he can still increase his points.

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Quote from: tokeweed on September 03, 2024, 07:00:11 AM

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Unexpected win for Ferrari and Charles Leclerc today in Monza.
Second win for him in Ferrari's Gp.

Another missed opportunity for Mclearen, another win lost, with a better strategy and a no fight on lap 1 between them it was an easy win.

Max now must be worried about the situation, without Adrian Newey RBR is not the same anymore.

Yup totally unexpected. I kinda stopped focusing on the race when I thought Piastri was gonna win it. But then I got back into it at the last three laps and was totally surprised that Leclerc was leading. Lol. I guess I'll watch the highlights at F1's YT. It also looks like Leclerc is starting to come on his own. I saw some clips of him telling his team to stfu when they kept bugging him about some brake setting. Cheesy

And yeah, both of Leclerc's wins are special to him... Monaco and Italy. The former is where he lives, the other one is his team's home race. Good one for Leclerc. Love to see him win.

Basically Mclaren thought that two stints was the way to go (most everyone did so) and Ferrari probably made a mistake that just got lucky and did one stint. Surely the pit stop gives you about 20-25 seconds of break, but then you get fresher tires and go faster, and McLaren had the speed so they thought they could, but somehow Ferrari just kept it going for further and di not lose the position and won.

It's clear that one sting was better option, but looks like it will not be all that much of a good news in the end for Ferrari since they just won by luck. Mclaren will keep on being better and they will keep on getting good results, it is not a secret that we are going to see this situation working for Mclaren for this season and probably next one too.

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2024 FORMULA 1 DRIVERS' WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP
Pos   Driver   Nat.   Team   Wins   Points
1   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   7   303
2   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   2   241
3   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   2   217
4   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1   197
5   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1   184

2024 FORMULA 1 CONSTRUCTORS' WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP
Pos   Team   Wins   Points
1   Oracle Red Bull Racing   7   446
2   McLaren F1 Team   3   438
3   Scuderia Ferrari   3   407
4   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   3   292

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1054501/1/f1-world-championship-points-after-2024-italian-grand-prix

I guess Ferrari is still the race for the Constructors world Championship and this is per se a big surprise.

Looking on how the cars are going it shoulr be and easy win for McLaren.

I think to get Norris in serious contention for the driver's championship, McLaren has to have team orders for their drivers. No more fooling around. Piastri knows he's the number two guy and he's taking some points away from the team's number one driver.. He took some risks and messed it up in Italy... And the sad thing about it is he didn't even win the race for his team. Lol.

But it's not totally Piastri's fault or anyone's fault. It's partly on Norris too as he's looking like he lacks grit. He'll prolly learn grit if Piastri keeps taking his spot.

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Kimi Antonelli is not someone that I considered Mercedes would get, they are basically getting themselves a second driver which is not really that much of a big deal, I think it needs to be something that will take a while for them to get Kimi to a good level. They know that George Russell is a great driver and they know that their future is with him, so they are looking for a second driver who can get the maximum points while staying a good teammate.

Think of Perez or Bottas type of driver, he is young so he may not do that greatly at first season or so, and Hamilton being at Ferrari will make things harder for them without a doubt, if he retired that was better, but at Ferrari, he will be different. Lets see how next season is, but first we need to finish this one.

Kimi Antonelli is considered a phenomenal driver for the age he has.
RBR did a similar move and they were saying it was a big risk to had MAX running in f1 at the age of 17.

Kimi will start for sure as second driver but what if he will beat Russell?

Aga its only a number.

I believe Antonelli to be a phenomenal driver only because Hamilton insisted and told Totto when he quit Mercedes that Antonelli is the best choice to be as his substitute. I saw him in the free practice where he crashed but before crashing he did an awesome lap attacking every turn and that says a lot for a driver in my opinion. Maybe he will not beat Russell directly in the first races because of the lack of experience but if Hamilton said only good words about him then most likely during the second phase of next season he should be able to beat Russell and to become nr 1 driver for Mercedes as Hamilton predicts, in the end only time can tell.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on September 03, 2024, 12:02:40 PM

Kimi Antonelli is not someone that I considered Mercedes would get, they are basically getting themselves a second driver which is not really that much of a big deal, I think it needs to be something that will take a while for them to get Kimi to a good level. They know that George Russell is a great driver and they know that their future is with him, so they are looking for a second driver who can get the maximum points while staying a good teammate.

Think of Perez or Bottas type of driver, he is young so he may not do that greatly at first season or so, and Hamilton being at Ferrari will make things harder for them without a doubt, if he retired that was better, but at Ferrari, he will be different. Lets see how next season is, but first we need to finish this one.

Kimi Antonelli is considered a phenomenal driver for the age he has.
RBR did a similar move and they were saying it was a big risk to had MAX running in f1 at the age of 17.

Kimi will start for sure as second driver but what if he will beat Russell?

Aga its only a number.

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Kimi Antonelli is not someone that I considered Mercedes would get, they are basically getting themselves a second driver which is not really that much of a big deal, I think it needs to be something that will take a while for them to get Kimi to a good level. They know that George Russell is a great driver and they know that their future is with him, so they are looking for a second driver who can get the maximum points while staying a good teammate.

Think of Perez or Bottas type of driver, he is young so he may not do that greatly at first season or so, and Hamilton being at Ferrari will make things harder for them without a doubt, if he retired that was better, but at Ferrari, he will be different. Lets see how next season is, but first we need to finish this one.

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2024 FORMULA 1 DRIVERS' WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP
Pos   Driver   Nat.   Team   Wins   Points
1   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   7   303
2   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   2   241
3   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   2   217
4   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1   197
5   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1   184

2024 FORMULA 1 CONSTRUCTORS' WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP
Pos   Team   Wins   Points
1   Oracle Red Bull Racing   7   446
2   McLaren F1 Team   3   438
3   Scuderia Ferrari   3   407
4   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   3   292

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1054501/1/f1-world-championship-points-after-2024-italian-grand-prix

I guess Ferrari is still the race for the Constructors world Championship and this is per se a big surprise.

Looking on how the cars are going it shoulr be and easy win for McLaren.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on September 01, 2024, 12:41:13 PM

Unexpected win for Ferrari and Charles Leclerc today in Monza.
Second win for him in Ferrari's Gp.

Another missed opportunity for Mclearen, another win lost, with a better strategy and a no fight on lap 1 between them it was an easy win.

Max now must be worried about the situation, without Adrian Newey RBR is not the same anymore.

Yup totally unexpected. I kinda stopped focusing on the race when I thought Piastri was gonna win it. But then I got back into it at the last three laps and was totally surprised that Leclerc was leading. Lol. I guess I'll watch the highlights at F1's YT. It also looks like Leclerc is starting to come on his own. I saw some clips of him telling his team to stfu when they kept bugging him about some brake setting. Cheesy

And yeah, both of Leclerc's wins are special to him... Monaco and Italy. The former is where he lives, the other one is his team's home race. Good one for Leclerc. Love to see him win.

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McLaren is one step closer to the championship now. I don't give any chance to Red Bull as of now. There are still 8 races and the point difference is nothing that can't be closed. It has really been an amazing season since things started to change.

I can say the 2021 season is the best one in the recent years. But I would definitely put this season right behind that one. Wink

Seeing no single driver and team dominating the season is just wonderful.

By the way I respect Piastri but the way he acts is starting to annoy me. Sad

He shouldn't have competed that hard against Norris in this race. They should act as a team to help Norris push for catching up with Verstappen.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on September 02, 2024, 04:29:39 AM

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Unexpected win for Ferrari and Charles Leclerc today in Monza.
Second win for him in Ferrari's Gp.

This weekend you have to say well done Ferrari and with their strategy, I've often criticised Ferrari for either messing up their pit stops or choosing the wrong strategy, this weekend they were (with a bit of luck of course as the tyres held out) a nose ahead of McLaren, but RedBull have the bigger problems at the moment, their performance leaves a lot to be desired.

Orange is the new red now, meaning there is no more Ferrari doing stupid things with the strategy but it totally is doing such things McLaren. They if they continue to play like that in a team where no one cares about anyone I am pretty sure that those 8 points in the Constructors Championship can be sure to overcome Redbull but what about Ferrari, they provided a massive upgrade package which worked well in Monza, the Ferrari car was near par levels with the McLaren and now we are moving into Baku a tough track to be racing yet a very beautiful one, in this track strategy plays a huge role in determining the outcome of the race and also the driver is very important as it is a really long race this one compared to Monza, McLaren can clearly lose a lot in Baku if they don't put their shit together.

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Very long time without enter to the forum because i was in a long travel journey for my hollydays.

A few things to note, what is Mclaren head doing? i mean they can easily overtook Max Verstappen and Red Bull if they stop making silly decisions in the races and fully support Lando Norris in his fight against Max Verstappen, why they make him take less points when he can take a lot more only by swapping positions or with better management.

About Kimi Antoneli.... man why you push so hard when you ahve already the seat for next season?

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It was a superb victory by Leclerc in the home GP for Ferrari. Cheesy

I must appreciate Ferrari's strategy for the first time in a long while. Because that one pit stop strategy changed everything in the race. If they did it twice like McLaren did then most probably Piastri would be the winner. Sainz says that he sacrificed himself by keeping Piastri behind for a couple of laps and suggesting Ferrari this pit strategy as well.

After this result McLaren is right behind Red Bull in constructor standings. The gap is only 8 points. McLaren is most probably the champion this season. Even Ferrari can leave Red Bull behind as the gap is only 39 points.

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