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I still think my earlier point is valid, and it's been the case many times already this season: Ferrari have the fastest car over a single lap in qualifying set-up, but Red Bull have the fastest car over a full race distance. I don't know what the reason is, could be differing set-ups, could be the cars behaving differently with a full tank of fuel, could be tyre deg... but we've seen it many times, Leclerc starts off ahead and an RB slowly reels him in... and then Leclerc can't catch them.

Strange is actually with Ferrari they are in the top speed there and there only in the midfield but in other measurements again the fastest.

On the finish stretch RedBull is about 5 km/h faster than Ferrari, could be very exciting tomorrow the two cars are on the track about the same speed, but just at different points on the track. Tomorrow, any of the four can really win.

I did not expect Ferrari so competitive on a fast track.

Tomorrow will be a fun race with 4 cars so close one each other.

A dream lap from Leclerc and actually also from Perez, with slipstream Perez could have possibly also achieved pole position. But even so a very good result for Perez, tomorrow everything is possible for the top four. It will depend a lot on the team strategy, a small mistake like in Monaco can cost the victory again.

I think he will not win,he ruined my Verstappen and Perez bet to be on pole today.He made mistakes at every single lap during all the qualifiers except the final lap which he made an extremely perfect one.Based on the fact that he managed to make mistakes in every single lap except the last one means that he is prone to making errors tomorrow in order to create gap with the Redbulls otherwise the Redbulls have that top speed in the last part of the track.He may win the race if he manages to execute it perfectly which I highly doubt it,I am going again to bet on Verstappen and Perez to win the race of tomorrow,their odds should be better than Leclerc.

Leclerc is quick!  He should win the race tomorrow.  I can't see how he doesn't win it unless some technical issue arises or bad weather, track conditions.  

And it's really looking like Perez is flipping the script.  Lol.  He out pips Verstappen again!  He looks alright about it now but let's see if he feels the same way after 3 - 5 GP's.  

Here are the results...

2022 F1 Azerbaijan GP Qualifying Results

1   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m42.865s   1m42.046s   1m41.359s
2   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m42.733s   1m41.955s   1m41.641s
3   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m42.722s   1m42.227s   1m41.706s
4   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m42.957s   1m42.088s   1m41.814s
5   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m43.754s   1m43.281s   1m42.712s
6   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m43.268s   1m43.129s   1m42.845s
7   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m43.939s   1m43.182s   1m42.924s
8   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m43.595s   1m43.376s   1m43.056s
9   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m43.279s   1m43.268s   1m43.091s
10   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m44.083s   1m43.360s   1m43.173s
11   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m44.237s   1m43.398s   
12   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m44.437s   1m43.574s   
13   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m43.903s   1m43.585s   
14   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m43.777s   1m43.790s   
15   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m44.478s   1m44.444s   
16   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m44.643s       
17   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m44.719s       
18   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m45.367s       
19   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m45.371s       
20   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m45.775s   

Looking at how the practice runs were RB-FR-RB-FR on first, and FR-RB-RB-FR on the second, we could easily say that there is absolutely no difference between the cars so far in this track neither. It will be mainly the same levels of car, going head to head, and a big title fight all over again. It is cool to watch two cars that have similar pace and what not, compared to all those years we watched Mercedes have a better car.

Even last year Mercedes I believe had a better car, remember that Brazil race? That was one of the most dominant races one car could have ever shown, which is why I believe that we finally have equal cars, and this race should be pretty close as well.

This is surprising to me, Ferrari is close to Redbull on this track.

Ferrari used a low drag wing but I still think RBR is hiding himself.




Sky Sport also showed a clip of the out-lap for Leclerc of Monaco.
Albion was ahead of him, with a blue flag he ignored them completely for 1 entire lap, Verstappen gained in this way 4 seconds and overtook Charles.

And yes, Albion is still under Redbull's wing.

Verstappen's last lap, which was a really fast flying lap was ruined by Ocon or was it Latifi, again.  Lmao.  Who knows if he would've gotten the no. 1 spot if it hadn't been ruined.  But all in all, another good one by Perez.  His betting line to win went from 6.25 down to 6.10.  Let's see what his line will be once the books open the market for bets again.

Interesting stuff going on at the Red Bull paddock rn.  What if Perez is the faster driver this season?

2022 F1 Azerbaijan GP FP3 Results

1   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m43.170s
2   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m43.240s
3   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m43.449s
4   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m43.596s
5   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m44.418s
6   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m44.476s
7   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m44.491s
8   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m44.573s
9   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m44.685s
10   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m44.689s
11   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m44.842s
12   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m44.845s
13   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m44.879s
14   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m44.913s
15   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m44.919s
16   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m44.964s
17   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m45.479s
18   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m45.532s
19   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m45.574s
20   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m46.070s

I think that the end of the FP2 doesn't show the real pace of Verstappen as he was slowed down by some yellow flags from what I saw yesterday during the FP2 so I have gone ahead and put a Pole win for Verstappen today.I am confident in this track Redbull will be superior as the fast parts of the track are more relevant than the slow ones.It all depends on the timing on when drivers come out to make their fastest qualifying lap as this is a long track which can cause traffic in difficult parts of it like the castle part for example slowing down the driver doing the faster lap a lot.

Perez is full of confidence here having won the last Baku GP last year,with luck but whatever a win is still a win.

I also think Bastianini has a better chance of riding a factory Ducati bike next year in place of Jack Miller, despite his impressive performances at the start of the season.
while Jorge Martin experienced a decline in performance at the beginning of this season, as Rookie of the Year in MotoGP 2021 Jorge Martin failed to maintain a brilliant appearance in the MotoGP series at the beginning of the season, although there are still many series remaining for this season but I think it will be very difficult for him to bounce back considering that its competitors are starting to find the right feel for the motorbike they are riding and starting to be competitive.

Who do you think will fill Jack Miller's seat at the factory Ducati next season ? because in the past Ducati never looked at a racer based on his country, but they (the manufacturer) looked more at a rider based on the performance in one season.
So, if it were for two candidates like Enea Bastianini and Jorge Martin, who would the manufacturer choose ?
Personally, I prefer Enea Bastianini because his performance at the beginning of this season was very good, even though in the last few races he had crashes.

Well we should consider the 2 GP with Zero points for Verstappen and the GP with 0 point for Lecrler.

For now he is for sure consistent but don't know if can keep their paste.

Practice is not really something that we should based the real races on. I mean just because one is better than the other on practice, doesn't mean they will be doing anything that will matter, it just means that we are going to end up with something that would be "similar" on how they will driver, the mindset, but not the pace.

As we all know, during the race we start with much lower paces, and then break way above these levels and be super fast by the end of it (fuel). So, do not be shocked if Max leads the whole race, or Charles does, or Perez does, or hell even Sainz could do something like that and I wouldn't be shocked to be fair.

That would definitely be possible, somehow Vettel also seems to have lost the motivation a bit, so a resignation can't be ruled out.

What still surprises me at the moment is Perez, who is still a real competitor to Leclerc and Verstappen, the duel seems to turn into a three-way fight.

I've missed the second hour so IDK how they were going.

In the 1st hour, we got around 10km/h as the difference in top speed between RBR and Ferrari.



Second-hour results.

1   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m43.224s
2   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m43.472s
3   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m43.580s
4   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m44.142s
5   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m44.274s
6   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m44.315s
7   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m44.458s
8   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m44.567s
9   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m44.609s
10   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m44.771s
11   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m44.781s
12   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m44.874s
13   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m44.874s
14   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m45.059s
15   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m45.115s
16   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m45.264s
17   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m45.588s
18   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m46.397s
19   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m46.425s
20   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m47.218s

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1004959/1/f1-2022-azerbaijan-grand-prix-free-practice-results-2

I have seen both of the practice sessions and it looks like this time we might have a Red Bull domination in this race. But I'm predicting this depending on the performances so far of course. Everything can change in a short time. The qualifying session is going to carry a big importance as we are able to see many different results there. I think Sainz can improve his performance in that session much more than this. He would fight hard for gaining a place in top three in the qualifying. For the race, I think Leclerc will win.

Do we? I'm pretty sure that in general the fastest car in qualifying set-up is the Ferrari, and the fastest car in full-race pace is the Red Bull. There will be fluctuations from circuit to circuit of course, but if Perez can get that close to Leclerc in FP2, after beating him in FP1, then it's quite an ominous sign that the RBs will dominate here.

Mercs nowhere again, as expected. Nice to see Alonso up in fourth in FP2 ahead of Sainz - still got it.

I'm back and forth for this GP.  Lol.  The books has Verstappen as the favorite but we know the best car out there with the best power unit are the Ferraris.  And Leclerc is a good driver.  And on the other hand, there's Perez, who seems to do well in this circuit as said in my post prior.  Let's see what happens by FP3.  It's Leclerc then Perez 1 - 2 after 15 mins at FP2...  Can't wait for the results in this one.

From what I can remember Verstappen to win is at 2.10, Leclerc at 2.75 and Perez at 6.25 or something.  And it's looking like he's flipping the script on Verstappen. 

The fast parts of the track are bigger than the technical side from what I saw here and it is exactly because of this that Redbull who happens to carry the maximum top speed is using it as an advantage over their opponents.We have to wait until the final free practice to judge a bit better but still Ferrari should use the strategy to their advantage and what is the most important thing is that they should start to improve their tire management as in this track the management of the tires will play a crucial role being a long track.