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Wet track, we probably have a rolling start in Monaco.

Starting soon.
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Now really Bezzechi leads and behind him Bagnaia, Fabio is in third place he holds very well against the Ducatis but on the straights he is fodder.

Too bad both Suzukis are out, very sad the two riders want to push too much for the sake of new contract possibly, the places are very rare after the exit of Suzuki ...
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That's exactly what I meant, I was very surprised and also think that the pole man will not win the race. Today will certainly win a Ducati, but which is very difficult to say. My tip goes to Bagnaia or Bezzechi, but we'll see...
Looks like Bezzechi will get on the podium today because I saw that since FP4, Q2 and WUP just finished, he is always in the front row so the potential for a podium starts to show for him if he can be very consistent from the start of the race.

to be able to lead this weekend in the race may be a bit in doubt, because Fabio Di Giannantonio is not experienced in the class of kings.
For the front row that is controlled by Ducati I think it's very reasonable, on this track there are several straight tracks that are very beneficial for Ducati with the top speed they have.
I predict in the Race later Ducati will also be in the front row.
I would even feel very happy if an independent team like Mooneyvr46 could be on the podium because this is their home and also the home of the Ducati bikes so the Ducati riders will definitely fight to win, especially if the rider is from Italy.
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The Polo position in MotoGp is very surprising, what is not surprising is that in Mugello all the front places are occupied by Ducati. It's also a high-speed track where engine power is crucial, so I'm surprised that Yamaha with Fabio is right behind the Ducatis.
The amazing thing is that Fabio Di Giannantonio of the Gresini Racing team fought their way through Q1 to get to Q2 and the result surprised everyone by taking pole position. It was also his first pole position in the premier class this year, but I have a little doubt for Fabio Di Giannantonio in terms of winning races, because he doesn't have much experience in the premier class.
to be able to lead this weekend in the race may be a bit in doubt, because Fabio Di Giannantonio is not experienced in the class of kings.
For the front row that is controlled by Ducati I think it's very reasonable, on this track there are several straight tracks that are very beneficial for Ducati with the top speed they have.
I predict in the Race later Ducati will also be in the front row.
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The Polo position in MotoGp is very surprising, what is not surprising is that in Mugello all the front places are occupied by Ducati. It's also a high-speed track where engine power is crucial, so I'm surprised that Yamaha with Fabio is right behind the Ducatis.
The amazing thing is that Fabio Di Giannantonio of the Gresini Racing team fought their way through Q1 to get to Q2 and the result surprised everyone by taking pole position. It was also his first pole position in the premier class this year, but I have a little doubt for Fabio Di Giannantonio in terms of winning races, because he doesn't have much experience in the premier class.

That's exactly what I meant, I was very surprised and also think that the pole man will not win the race. Today will certainly win a Ducati, but which is very difficult to say. My tip goes to Bagnaia or Bezzechi, but we'll see...

I'm also curious whether Fabio can keep up with the Ducatis, but think rather not.
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The Polo position in MotoGp is very surprising, what is not surprising is that in Mugello all the front places are occupied by Ducati. It's also a high-speed track where engine power is crucial, so I'm surprised that Yamaha with Fabio is right behind the Ducatis.
The amazing thing is that Fabio Di Giannantonio of the Gresini Racing team fought their way through Q1 to get to Q2 and the result surprised everyone by taking pole position. It was also his first pole position in the premier class this year, but I have a little doubt for Fabio Di Giannantonio in terms of winning races, because he doesn't have much experience in the premier class.
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The Polo position in MotoGp is very surprising, what is not surprising is that in Mugello all the front places are occupied by Ducati. It's also a high-speed track where engine power is crucial, so I'm surprised that Yamaha with Fabio is right behind the Ducatis.
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Leclerc is quick.  And so is Perez in that Red Bull.  It looks like he has a chip on his shoulder and something to prove after the team order in Barcelona.  Lol.  And looks like I'm wrong.  Verstappen wasn't sand bagging.  He is slow..  But even slower than Perez?  

But yeah..  I don't think the grid would've changed much even if Perez didn't hit the barrier and with Sainz hitting him.  And there's high chance of rain tomorrow.

If Max doesn't overtake Perez at the start, then RB will tell Perez to get out of the way again, or else offset their pit stops so Max gets ahead. The big issue for Max is Sainz. If we assume Leclerc gets away ahead, then Sainz will inevitably lose time on him, and slow the Red Bulls behind him... which should mean a comfortable victory for Leclerc.

The big unknown really is who gets lucky with the timing of the inevitable safety cars... which becomes even more important if rain is due.

Sainz most probably would get team orders to not attack Leclerc at the first corner.If the above scenario happens and yes in theory it means a comfortable victory for Leclerc which he greatly needs the unknowns here are really a lot,a simple incident even from the last car that is running for nothing in 20th place can make a lot of changes to the race,the rain can make it even more difficult to drive and conditions may deteriorate which can change a lot and even some outsider can win in these conditions,heavy rain if he and his team make the right choice at the right time.

Taking into consideration a normal race it is a sure win for Leclerc.

The big thing really is that Perez qualified in third ahead of Max in fourth. Maybe Perez can get past Sainz at the start, but highly unlikely that Verstappen can, unless Sainz really messes up. Team order means Max can get past Perez, but he has to overtake Sainz as well to get close enough to Leclerc to try to take the lead at the pit stops... otherwise he gets stuck behind the slower moving Sainz and gradually loses time on Leclerc lap by lap, and can't undercut him in the pits. Barring a crazy start, Max's only real chance is getting lucky with safety cars.
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Tomorrow we return to Italy, Autodromo Internazionale del Mugello. Looking at the qualifying results I was quite surprised, there was a new name starting from number 1 and it was still unfamiliar.  Here are the top 5 qualifying results
   
1. F. Di Giannantonio
2. M. Bezzecchi
3. L. Marini
4. J. Zarco
5. F. Bagnaia

If you look at their motorcycles one factory. It corresponds to the character of the fast circuit. Ducati is in the top 5.

F. Di Giannantonio and M. Bezzecchi are rookie riders this year with different independent (satellite) teams even though they use the same engine, namely Ducati and in my opinion this is very unique because with Italian bikes in the italian grandprix and italian riders and italian teams, they are in the front row all the way today by beating all the riders from all the manufacturers.
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Charles Leclerc had two great practice sessions today. He led both of them and improved his best time in the FP2 also. Sainz and Perez followed him right behind in both sessions but I still can't trust Sainz for this race also. Because he has been making very simple mistakes for some races and I don't know why he has lost his focus this easy. It happened even right after extending his contract for two more years. Ferrari really need him to race at a higher level to fight for the constructors championship.


Charles is at home here, he has an advantage and he is driving a car with a lot of drag.
He must do the pole tomorrow, no excuses.

Charles Leclerc got the pole position. Good for him! He had a very quick qualifying session. He had a big gap with even the second driver at the end of the session. Leclerc was the lucky man this time as there was a crash while we were getting close to the end of Q3. It was a really weird crash by the way. Sainz didn't see the yellow flags and closed the road fully after crashing into Perez. He even thought that it was Verstappen which was hilarious.  Cheesy

Finally Leclerc's luck has turned for this Grand Prix and I wonder whether he will win the race too.
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As expected it was an easy pole for Ferrari, and Lecler was even improving before the red flag.

Perez did a mistake in the end and Sainz risked fatal damage for a late red flag.

In Monaco flag need to be quicker.
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Leclerc is quick.  And so is Perez in that Red Bull.  It looks like he has a chip on his shoulder and something to prove after the team order in Barcelona.  Lol.  And looks like I'm wrong.  Verstappen wasn't sand bagging.  He is slow..  But even slower than Perez?  

But yeah..  I don't think the grid would've changed much even if Perez didn't hit the barrier and with Sainz hitting him.  And there's high chance of rain tomorrow.

If Max doesn't overtake Perez at the start, then RB will tell Perez to get out of the way again, or else offset their pit stops so Max gets ahead. The big issue for Max is Sainz. If we assume Leclerc gets away ahead, then Sainz will inevitably lose time on him, and slow the Red Bulls behind him... which should mean a comfortable victory for Leclerc.

The big unknown really is who gets lucky with the timing of the inevitable safety cars... which becomes even more important if rain is due.

Sainz most probably would get team orders to not attack Leclerc at the first corner.If the above scenario happens and yes in theory it means a comfortable victory for Leclerc which he greatly needs the unknowns here are really a lot,a simple incident even from the last car that is running for nothing in 20th place can make a lot of changes to the race,the rain can make it even more difficult to drive and conditions may deteriorate which can change a lot and even some outsider can win in these conditions,heavy rain if he and his team make the right choice at the right time.

Taking into consideration a normal race it is a sure win for Leclerc.
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I am sure that Max will be biting the ear of Perez until tomorrow. It is not going to be that good for them, Max will be starting at fourth, that is not really a good start specially in Monaco. The horrible thing is, Sainz could just race slowly and not let anyone pass, since it is a small track, he could keep others from passing him very easily, which means that he could allow Charles to go ahead for a long time without any trouble.

By the time Sainz could ever be passed (which may never happen) I am sure that Charles will be already 20-30+ seconds ahead. This would be screwed of course if Max somehow gets ahead of Sainz but I am not seeing that happening at all.
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Leclerc looked good today, but we have to keep in mind that Verstappen couldn't put down his last time because there were 2 cars on the road that then blocked the road. Monaco is a very tight circuit, it is almost impossible to overtake others. Whoever is allowed to start from Pole, in principle only has to make no mistakes and drive fast. You hardly have to confront the numbers 2 and 3 because they can't come close. At the start tomorrow something is possible, Leclerc could lose his lead there.
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Leclerc is quick.  And so is Perez in that Red Bull.  It looks like he has a chip on his shoulder and something to prove after the team order in Barcelona.  Lol.  And looks like I'm wrong.  Verstappen wasn't sand bagging.  He is slow..  But even slower than Perez?  

But yeah..  I don't think the grid would've changed much even if Perez didn't hit the barrier and with Sainz hitting him.  And there's high chance of rain tomorrow.

If Max doesn't overtake Perez at the start, then RB will tell Perez to get out of the way again, or else offset their pit stops so Max gets ahead. The big issue for Max is Sainz. If we assume Leclerc gets away ahead, then Sainz will inevitably lose time on him, and slow the Red Bulls behind him... which should mean a comfortable victory for Leclerc.

The big unknown really is who gets lucky with the timing of the inevitable safety cars... which becomes even more important if rain is due.
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I hope this time there will be no one who doesn't complete the race due to a car malfunction. The fact that the leader is out of the race due to such a malfunction really kills the excitement. Have a nice and clean race. Accidents can happen, it's in the nature of racing, but the mechanical failure is really annoying for the spectators. Again, it looks like a race between Ferrari and RBR. Mercedes is behind this year, they need to improve the car. McLaren isn't bad either, but their chances of finishing first in any race is very slim this year.
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Leclerc is quick.  And so is Perez in that Red Bull.  It looks like he has a chip on his shoulder and something to prove after the team order in Barcelona.  Lol.  And looks like I'm wrong.  Verstappen wasn't sand bagging.  He is slow..  But even slower than Perez?  

But yeah..  I don't think the grid would've changed much even if Perez didn't hit the barrier and with Sainz hitting him.  And there's high chance of rain tomorrow.

Here are the results...

2022 F1 Monaco GP Qualifying Results

1   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m12.569s   1m11.864s   1m11.376s
2   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m12.616s   1m12.074s   1m11.601s
3   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m13.004s   1m11.954s   1m11.629s
4   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m12.993s   1m12.117s   1m11.666s
5   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m12.927s   1m12.266s   1m11.849s
6   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m12.787s   1m12.617s   1m12.112s
7   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m13.394s   1m12.668s   1m12.247s
8   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m13.444s   1m12.595s   1m12.560s
9   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m13.313s   1m12.613s   1m12.732s
10   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m12.848s   1m12.528s   1m13.047s
11   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m13.110s   1m12.797s   
12   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m13.541s   1m12.909s   
13   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m13.069s   1m12.921s   
14   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m13.338s   1m12.964s   
15   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m13.469s   1m13.081s   
16   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m13.611s       
17   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m13.660s       
18   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m13.678s       
19   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m14.403s       
20   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m15.606s       
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It is pole for Leclerc after Sainz screwing up in the last lap of the qualifying and blaming the commissars for bringing the yellow flags late which wasn't at all the case.Really bad performance by Redbull and at a slow speed like this Ferrari is absolutely the best car.However the win is not guaranteed for Leclerc as the race conditions will not be that normal and judging by the qualifying it will be a race in which the Safety Car will absolutely be present not only just one time.A lot to change during the race I think.
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Tomorrow we return to Italy, Autodromo Internazionale del Mugello. Looking at the qualifying results I was quite surprised, there was a new name starting from number 1 and it was still unfamiliar.  Here are the top 5 qualifying results
   
1. F. Di Giannantonio
2. M. Bezzecchi
3. L. Marini
4. J. Zarco
5. F. Bagnaia

If you look at their motorcycles one factory. It corresponds to the character of the fast circuit. Ducati is in the top 5.

Source: https://www.motogp.com/en/gp-results/2022/ITA/MotoGP/Q2/Classification

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Qualifying time right now.

Ferrari so far is the fastest car, can RBR compete on this track?

Quite surprising Russel is in 3rd position.
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