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August 28, 2020, 07:22:07 AM
I think the nr 16 race in Bahrain will use the outer track as pointed in F1 instagram official page and laps will be well below 1 minute considering the layout,they said the F1 page that the race will take place late at night with lights on so I am looking forward to that race.For this weekend race the power of Mercedes engine will make it a boring one to watch but let’s hope I am wrong.
August 28, 2020, 05:50:11 AM
New Formula1 week same picture than the last race. Mercedes at front, than Verstappen and Racing Point.
https://www.formula1.com/en/f1-live-lite.html#live-leaderboard
After Racing Point more than 0.5 sec behind. It's Friday but i think tomorrow and Sunday no other results!?
https://www.formula1.com/en/f1-live-lite.html#live-leaderboard
After Racing Point more than 0.5 sec behind. It's Friday but i think tomorrow and Sunday no other results!?
I expect HAM, BOT and VER to be on the podium this weekend in any order if nothing weird happens.
For the competition it would be nice to see VER win, but he just don't have the car for that yet.
August 28, 2020, 05:26:41 AM
New Formula1 week same picture than the last race. Mercedes at front, than Verstappen and Racing Point.
https://www.formula1.com/en/f1-live-lite.html#live-leaderboard
After Racing Point more than 0.5 sec behind. It's Friday but i think tomorrow and Sunday no other results!?
https://www.formula1.com/en/f1-live-lite.html#live-leaderboard
After Racing Point more than 0.5 sec behind. It's Friday but i think tomorrow and Sunday no other results!?
August 26, 2020, 09:32:49 AM
That's correct that MotoGP have no tyre change but for what?
~snip~
Previously I read, MotoGP is different from F1, tire replacement in MotoGP is not based on tire fatigue like in F1, but on the basis of wet or dry track, so the motorbike must also be replaced. This is done because the motorbike has different specifications for dry and wet tracks, not just the tires. For dry and wet motorbikes it is also different for dry tracks that use carbon fiber discs, do not use rear lights, the bottom rotation is larger. While the wet motor uses steel discs. using a tail-light, the lower torque must be limited because it is slippery so it needs to be regulated by power. In my opinion, this arrangement was made for safety, so if the track changes then the motorbike must also be replaced according to the circumstances. If it is made like F1 I think it will be difficult and will take a long time.~snip~
Yes at MotoGP the have 2 bikes when rainy weather is expected, the driver drive in the box and change the bike, other isn't possible. Because of the brakes, at raining weather carbon disk do not come into the work area of 250 - 800°C. But in the last time the teams works with work with covers, read here but only a German article.
https://www.motorsport-total.com/motogp/news/carbon-bremse-im-regen-die-hintergruende-dieses-trends-18032703
August 26, 2020, 09:00:26 AM
That's correct that MotoGP have no tyre change but for what?
~snip~
Previously I read, MotoGP is different from F1, tire replacement in MotoGP is not based on tire fatigue like in F1, but on the basis of wet or dry track, so the motorbike must also be replaced. This is done because the motorbike has different specifications for dry and wet tracks, not just the tires. For dry and wet motorbikes it is also different for dry tracks that use carbon fiber discs, do not use rear lights, the bottom rotation is larger. While the wet motor uses steel discs. using a tail-light, the lower torque must be limited because it is slippery so it needs to be regulated by power. In my opinion, this arrangement was made for safety, so if the track changes then the motorbike must also be replaced according to the circumstances. If it is made like F1 I think it will be difficult and will take a long time. ~snip~
August 26, 2020, 01:45:11 AM
Hell yeah. Happy to see we get more and more races and that this can now resemble a proper season, despite Mercedes dominance.The longer the season lasts, bigger are the chances to see some changes, upsets, things going wrong for some teams, coughMercCOugh, changing of the tide.
Next race is my favorite track of all time, it will never change. Lovely Spa-Francorchamps, hopefully one year I will manage to organize and go camping there for a full F1 week
Also so happy we get Istanbul back, awesome track and it will provide great racing. Would be great if it stays in F1 calendar regularly from now on.
Next race is my favorite track of all time, it will never change. Lovely Spa-Francorchamps, hopefully one year I will manage to organize and go camping there for a full F1 week
Also so happy we get Istanbul back, awesome track and it will provide great racing. Would be great if it stays in F1 calendar regularly from now on.
Seems that this season is going to be a long one, hopefully for us.
It is sad for Ferrari as they didn't spend a lot of money in the R&D considering that this season is not going to be a big one and they tried to spend not so many resources this season. It would be a hard season for them with this car.
I am very happy to see the legendary track of Imola being back and it has been quite a few years without racing there.In this track besides the sad facts of death of few drivers there are awesome turns for the driver to show their skills and in fact I think this is one of the tracks where driving skills are shown a bit more than in other tracks as this is a really technical track.
August 26, 2020, 01:42:19 AM
Hell yeah. Happy to see we get more and more races and that this can now resemble a proper season, despite Mercedes dominance.The longer the season lasts, bigger are the chances to see some changes, upsets, things going wrong for some teams, coughMercCOugh, changing of the tide.
Next race is my favorite track of all time, it will never change. Lovely Spa-Francorchamps, hopefully one year I will manage to organize and go camping there for a full F1 week
Also so happy we get Istanbul back, awesome track and it will provide great racing. Would be great if it stays in F1 calendar regularly from now on.
Next race is my favorite track of all time, it will never change. Lovely Spa-Francorchamps, hopefully one year I will manage to organize and go camping there for a full F1 week
Also so happy we get Istanbul back, awesome track and it will provide great racing. Would be great if it stays in F1 calendar regularly from now on.
Seems that this season is going to be a long one, hopefully for us.
It is sad for Ferrari as they didn't spend a lot of money in the R&D considering that this season is not going to be a big one and they tried to spend not so many resources this season. It would be a hard season for them with this car.
August 26, 2020, 12:57:17 AM
Is it a good track? I can't remember it.
It seems possible to have a lot of overtakes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aml3i2S5DI4
Source pic: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuito_di_Istanbul
It seems possible to have a lot of overtakes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aml3i2S5DI4
Source pic: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuito_di_Istanbul
I haven't watch F1 when this track was still in it. It looks very promising and I read a lot of good stories about it. It must be better then those tracks where they can hardly overtake and that we are watching just some cars racing behind each other.
August 26, 2020, 12:01:49 AM
I believe Istanbul one was cancelled because the company behind the racing track didn't wanted to pay 25 million euro for being in there, normally I would understand that some places may want to pay that much so that they could make a profit, however Formula is not that big in Turkey and when the Istanbul one happened you could have seen whole sections empty, not just free seats and all, you could find whole sections of 40-50 seats all empty, so you could buy the cheapest seat available and then go sit wherever you want, only place that was filled was the high end suite type of places.
So, they didn't made any profit, hence why they didn't want to pay that much. Obviously they have it now for this once because of pandemic, but do not get your hopes up about the future, they will probably still not want to pay for something they can't profit in the future when this pandemic schedule ends.
So, they didn't made any profit, hence why they didn't want to pay that much. Obviously they have it now for this once because of pandemic, but do not get your hopes up about the future, they will probably still not want to pay for something they can't profit in the future when this pandemic schedule ends.
August 25, 2020, 07:14:15 PM
Hell yeah. Happy to see we get more and more races and that this can now resemble a proper season, despite Mercedes dominance.The longer the season lasts, bigger are the chances to see some changes, upsets, things going wrong for some teams, coughMercCOugh, changing of the tide.
Next race is my favorite track of all time, it will never change. Lovely Spa-Francorchamps, hopefully one year I will manage to organize and go camping there for a full F1 week
Also so happy we get Istanbul back, awesome track and it will provide great racing. Would be great if it stays in F1 calendar regularly from now on.
Next race is my favorite track of all time, it will never change. Lovely Spa-Francorchamps, hopefully one year I will manage to organize and go camping there for a full F1 week
Also so happy we get Istanbul back, awesome track and it will provide great racing. Would be great if it stays in F1 calendar regularly from now on.
August 25, 2020, 03:43:04 PM
Is it a good track? I can't remember it.
It seems possible to have a lot of overtakes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aml3i2S5DI4
IMO, it's one of best tracks that weren't used by F1 in recent years. It seems possible to have a lot of overtakes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aml3i2S5DI4
August 25, 2020, 03:36:11 PM
Is it a good track? I can't remember it.
It seems possible to have a lot of overtakes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aml3i2S5DI4
Source pic: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuito_di_Istanbul
It seems possible to have a lot of overtakes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aml3i2S5DI4
Source pic: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuito_di_Istanbul
August 25, 2020, 02:16:19 PM
I'm really happy to see Istanbul added to calendar, I really missed this track. I remember people's comments that 2020 season should be cancelled because it's affected by pandemy too much with many races cancelled. But what we have now - 17 races, I think it's great number in current circumstances. And we get boring tracks like Singapore, Monaco or France replaced by Istanbul, Nurburgring or Imola.
August 25, 2020, 12:59:55 PM
They added more races at the F1 Championship
Source: https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/1298214030692306947
Since they will race till December they will go in the Southern hemisphere when it will be summer there.
Source: https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/1298214030692306947
Since they will race till December they will go in the Southern hemisphere when it will be summer there.
Thank you, looks good with a few more races this years, but it will not change the Mercedes dominante.
~snip~ course when no Honda or Marc Marquez domination is happening as when it is happening is the same with F1 and Mercedes a boring race.As long as MotoGP continues like this is better than F1 from a racing fan perspective.
I think it's a lot different from F1, they have Pit Stop to add fuel, change tires, MotoGP there is no PitStop Entry for Normal races. If you support champion Marquez it will be boring because he is still injured and not participating. This race is quite exciting, in my opinion, there is an exciting duel, Rossi in fourteen can finish in ninth position, Miguel Oliveira from seventh can be Champion. Nakagami also slipped from number two to number seven.Oh yes, the following standings for MotoGP arrive at the Styria GP. Marquez number fifteen, can he still win this year?
That's correct that MotoGP have no tyre change but for what? The dorna sees through the regulations that the teams are together, and weaker teams have certain advantages. And i think to #10 all drivers cannwin the championship.
August 25, 2020, 09:09:53 AM
~snip~ course when no Honda or Marc Marquez domination is happening as when it is happening is the same with F1 and Mercedes a boring race.As long as MotoGP continues like this is better than F1 from a racing fan perspective.
I think it's a lot different from F1, they have Pit Stop to add fuel, change tires, MotoGP there is no PitStop Entry for Normal races. If you support champion Marquez it will be boring because he is still injured and not participating. This race is quite exciting, in my opinion, there is an exciting duel, Rossi in fourteen can finish in ninth position, Miguel Oliveira from seventh can be Champion. Nakagami also slipped from number two to number seven.Oh yes, the following standings for MotoGP arrive at the Styria GP. Marquez number fifteen, can he still win this year?
August 25, 2020, 06:10:17 AM
They added more races at the F1 Championship
Source: https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/1298214030692306947
Since they will race till December they will go in the Southern hemisphere when it will be summer there.
Source: https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/1298214030692306947
Since they will race till December they will go in the Southern hemisphere when it will be summer there.
August 24, 2020, 09:34:18 AM
That's what i love about motoGP, Dach weekend a other driver and manufacture can win or stand at Polposition.
The first 9 driver between 0.3 sec 👌, should Formula1 also think about "concession points"??
The first 9 driver between 0.3 sec 👌, should Formula1 also think about "concession points"??
This is because in MotoGP the skills of the riders are more emphasized than the skills of F1 drivers.This is the main difference and that is why MotoGP is better to watch on TV as there is a lot of overtaking usually in MotoGP and partly I believe this is because also the tiredness can be feel more for the rider during a MotoGP race than a F1 driver which is seated in the vehicle and enjoys the race.In MotoGP also the danger is way bigger and also the adrenaline.
Why you think only the skill from the driver? I think the skill from the driver at Formula1 is also very equal but the different between the tams is sooo big, at MotoGP the concession points help the worse teams.
Congratulations Miguel Oliveira winning the MotoGP Styria, he is also entitled to bring home a luxury BMW type M4 2021. I think Oliveira was lucky at the last lap, in last corner Miller and Espargaro were slightly wide and out of the track while fighting. Oliveira came on the inside and finished first, Miller and Espargaro in second and third. This result is not far from my prediction that Ducati, KTM which has great power on the straight track will dominate the race this time.
Yes very exiting race the drivers are fight like Moto3. Very sorry for Mir, the are the best driver befor the restart. But very lucky from Olivera and good that no driver hurt.
Congratulations Miguel Oliveira winning the MotoGP Styria, he is also entitled to bring home a luxury BMW type M4 2021. I think Oliveira was lucky at the last lap, in last corner Miller and Espargaro were slightly wide and out of the track while fighting. Oliveira came on the inside and finished first, Miller and Espargaro in second and third. This result is not far from my prediction that Ducati, KTM which has great power on the straight track will dominate the race this time.
This is often the panorama in many MotoGP races and the winner is often found on the last lap,of course when no Honda or Marc Marquez domination is happening as when it is happening is the same with F1 and Mercedes a boring race.As long as MotoGP continues like this is better than F1 from a racing fan perspective.
For all not #93 fans are the best session the last years.
August 24, 2020, 08:50:07 AM
Congratulations Miguel Oliveira winning the MotoGP Styria, he is also entitled to bring home a luxury BMW type M4 2021. I think Oliveira was lucky at the last lap, in last corner Miller and Espargaro were slightly wide and out of the track while fighting. Oliveira came on the inside and finished first, Miller and Espargaro in second and third. This result is not far from my prediction that Ducati, KTM which has great power on the straight track will dominate the race this time.
This is often the panorama in many MotoGP races and the winner is often found on the last lap,of course when no Honda or Marc Marquez domination is happening as when it is happening is the same with F1 and Mercedes a boring race.As long as MotoGP continues like this is better than F1 from a racing fan perspective.
August 24, 2020, 02:05:17 AM
Williams F1 has been sold... The end of an ERA.
The end of an era is a start for a new one.
I think that it is good that Williams is sold, they didn't have a lot of money to invest in their cars.
I hope that the new administration is going to give fund for the R&D team in order to develop a faster car.
August 23, 2020, 11:10:28 AM
Williams F1 has been sold... The end of an ERA.
Yeah about the party mode, guess what Mercedes and Honda cried about it (the 2 motors with the biggest gain) and they delayed by 1 GP.
Yeah about the party mode, guess what Mercedes and Honda cried about it (the 2 motors with the biggest gain) and they delayed by 1 GP.
They still said in the official announcement that the headquarters will be in UK where they are and they will continue to race under the same name Williams.I agree partly with this decision as Williams was struggling from quite some time now and no green light was seen in their latest developments of the few last years so probably they got really bored to get this decision which of course sadness us all.
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