Topic: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... - page 508. (Read 130296 times)

I guess I don't owe anybody here any money?  Lololol.  Ferrari finished above RBR, but Verstappen finished above Ricciardo, yeah?

I think RBR could finish above Ferrari next year...  Wanna go at it again Ltu_btc? 

I'll agree the fault definitely lies with Ocon here, but then such accidents do take place in these races. I'm expecting Verstappen to fight for the title next season. In my opinion Vettel has been disappointing this season, he's not mounting a significant challenge hence I feel he won't be winning it next year, my money is on Verstappen to dethrone Hamilton. This particular season we'll saw Hamilton win it with barely any challenge, I feel the new season will be of Verstappen. What do you'll think can he dethrone Hamilton? Or will it be Hamilton season again.

Yeah I know but as I said since you are one lap behind he should have been a bit more cautious against the leader. I am no fan of Verstappen or anyone else, I just like real racing and I know these things happen but the race would have been different if the crash was avoided, not that would have changed anything in the leaderboard. Overall it was a beautiful season so far.

@swogerino. Esteban Ocon had every right to fight back and unlap himself, but agreed that it was his fault. But Max should also have been aware that he had more to lose than the other driver.

That should be the correct way to approach the situation, I reckon.

I did not watch the race on Sunday but I wish I did. I am seeing a lot of hilariois fun videos on youtube and social media about the fight between Ocon and Verstappen. I don't support neither of them so my opinion is neutral but I think on fault here is Ocon.

Although you maybe faster because of new tires you should not crash into the race leader when you try to unlap yourself.

True i was hopping for him to win but like you said this is race rhythm and he just made mistake that cost him win.
However this can be very good experience for him and his carrier.

It was sheer bad luck for Verstappen these things do happen in these high tempo races, however I feel Occon should have done better. I think Verstappen behaved immaturely, and I can't believe that the crew was just standing there. I believe he would have gotten away had he just exchanged words, but he laid a hand on Occon not once but thrice, and that's not acceptable at all he'll be banned and fined.

Verstappen was leading today and had great chance to win and then this accident happened:
https://mobile.twitter.com/F1/status/1061696911617404928
Occon tried to unlap himself but he hit Verstappen. It was fault of Occon, but on the other hand Verstappen didn't left enough place for Occon.
And after race Verstappen showed very unprofessional behaviour:
https://mobile.twitter.com/F1/status/1061716317231665153

Watched rerun of this race, accident also cost Rossi any chance of beating Dovizioso for second in the 2018 world championship.

2018 MotoGP Malaysia - Race Results
 
1. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 40m 32.372s
2. Alex Rins ESP Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 40m 34.270s
3. Johann Zarco FRA Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1) 40m 34.846s
4. Maverick Viñales ESP Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 40m 37.039s
5. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 40m 38.562s
6. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (GP18) 40m 43.620s
7. Alvaro Bautista ESP Angel Nieto Team (GP17) 40m 47.983s
8. Jack Miller AUS Pramac Ducati (GP17) 40m 51.381s
9. Danilo Petrucci ITA Pramac Ducati (GP18) 40m 55.293s
10. Hafizh Syahrin MAL Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1)* 40m 59.291s
11. Aleix Espargaro ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 41m 1.875s
12. Franco Morbidelli ITA EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 41m 3.305s
13. Stefan Bradl GER LCR Honda (RC213V) 41m 7.694s
14. Takaaki Nakagami JPN LCR Honda (RC213V)* 41m 10.284s
15. Bradley Smith GBR Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 41m 12.047s
16. Thomas Luthi SWI EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 41m 14.192s
17. Xavier Simeon ESP Reale Avintia (GP17)* 41m 16.350s
18. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 41m 30.660s
19. Scott Redding GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 41m 32.563s

Pol Espargaro ESP Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) DNF
Michele Pirro ITA Ducati Team (GP18) DNF
Karel Abraham CZE Angel Nieto Team (GP16) DNF
Andrea Iannone ITA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) DNF

This weekend motogp has canceled due to have rain. Tried to watch but again rain delay everything, think it was same last year or motogp race didnt even been. Can't recall. Watching race tomorrow will be testing cuz they rescheduled everything i moved every race 2 hours earlier.

Congratulations to another well deserved title for Hamilton, did anyone see the most funny Hamilton interview during the whole season , if not here it is for everyone to see:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BpkC54TgJ3y/?taken-by=f1

Hamilton had one brilliant season there's no doubt about it, but I feel Vettel could have given him more tough challenge. I felt Vettel was disappointing and so was Ferrari with their tactics. I'm looking forward to the next season, and hopefully other racers step up to Hamilton, I'm looking forward to seeing more close contest between Hamilton and Vettel, there're not many young drivers who I feel will be able to step up to Hamilton and Vettel.

I dunno for this. Honda made huge mistakes with McLaren but maybe they learn mistakes and they will fix this. Hopefully we will see some good action next season cuz this one we already know the champion.

@LTU_btc. There will be more sorry situations for Daniel in Renault next year hehehe. I reckon Honda's project for Redbull will produce a season winning engine.

So, Hamilton become World champion officially. Not much what to say about this race. Hamilton had careful tactics today, because he only needed few points to become the champion. Verstappen had great start and won today easily.
But I'm so sad for Ricciardo again. He had great chance to be on podium at least today, but again he had to retire due to engine failure. Terrible season for him...

MotoGP race result

This was very hard to watch with Zarco flying crash with Marquez on 260 speed. That was very hard to watch.

1. Maverick Viñales ESP Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 27 laps, 40m 51.081s
2. Andrea Iannone ITA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) +1.543s
3. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (GP18) +1.832s
4. Alvaro Bautista ESP Ducati Team (GP18) +4.072s
5. Alex Rins ESP Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) +5.017s
6. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) +5.132s
7. Jack Miller AUS Pramac Ducati (GP17) +6.756s
8. Franco Morbidelli ITA EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* +21.805s
9. Aleix Espargaro ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) +22.904s
10. Bradley Smith GBR Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) +22.940s
11. Karel Abraham CZE Angel Nieto Team (GP17) +34.386s
12. Danilo Petrucci ITA Pramac Ducati (GP18) +35.025s
13. Scott Redding GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) +36.348s
14. Takaaki Nakagami JPN LCR Honda (RC213V)* +36.389s
15. Xavier Simeon ESP Reale Avintia (GP17)* +44.214s
16. Thomas Luthi SWI EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* +48.226s
17. Jordi Torres SPA Reale Avintia (GP16) +1m 04.965s
18. Mike Jones AUS Angel Nieto Team (GP16) +1m 19.817s

Dint finish race
Pol Espargaro ESP Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) DNF
Hafizh Syahrin MAL Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1)* DNF
Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) DNF
Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) DNF
Johann Zarco FRA Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1) DNF

This is a nice qualifying results as you see Hamilton and Vettel are on 3rd and 4th this should make it more exciting, feel Hamilton will win and take the title home in today's race, he's just been brilliant this season. It's  been quiet a long while to see Red Bull in the pole and second position will be interesting to see if this effects the race, I just hope Hamilton doesn't act over confident and throws it away.

Very good qualifying on both enjoy a little, especially in Formula 1. Can remember when was last time that there was both RB in first row, didn't want to look for it but will later. Probably in Vettel era.

Double excitement for the weekend both MotoGP and Formula 1

Qualifying result for both.

MOTOGP

1. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 29.199s
2. Maverick Viñales ESP Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1m 29.509s +0.301s
3. Johann Zarco FRA Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1) 1m 29.705s +0.506s
4. Andrea Iannone ITA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 29.712s +0.513s
5. Alex Rins ESP Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 30.026s +0.827s
6. Jack Miller AUS Pramac Ducati (GP17) 1m 30.140s +0.941s
7. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1m 30.270s +1.071s
8. Danilo Petrucci ITA Pramac Ducati (GP18) 1m 30.328s +1.129s
9. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (GP18) 1m 30.519s +1.320s
10. Hafizh Syahrin MAL Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 30.593s +1.394s
11. Pol Espargaro ESP Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 1m 30.640s +1.441s
12. Alvaro Bautista ESP Ducati Team (GP18) 1m 32.367s +3.168s
13. Grid positions determined by Qualifying 1 results
14. Karel Abraham CZE Angel Nieto Team (GP17) 1m 30.174s
15. Takaaki Nakagami JPN LCR Honda (RC213V)* 1m 30.452s
16. Franco Morbidelli ITA EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 1m 30.518s
17. Bradley Smith GBR Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 1m 30.646s
18. Xavier Simeon ESP Reale Avintia (GP17)* 1m 30.679s
19. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 30.770s
20. Aleix Espargaro ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 30.911s
21. Scott Redding GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 31.958s
22. Thomas Luthi SWI EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 1m 31.141s
23. Jordi Torres SPA Reale Avintia (GP16) 1m 31.309s
24. Mike Jones AUS Angel Nieto Team (GP16) 1m 32.639s

and Formula 1

1. Daniel Ricciardo   RED BULL RACING TAG HEUER   
2. Max Verstappen   RED BULL RACING TAG HEUER   
3. Lewis Hamilton   MERCEDES   
4. Sebastian Vettel   FERRARI   
5. Valtteri Bottas   MERCEDES
6. Kimi Räikkönen   FERRARI   
7. Nico Hulkenberg   RENAULT   
8. Carlos Sainz   RENAULT   
9. Charles Leclerc   SAUBER FERRARI   
10. Marcus Ericsson   SAUBER FERRARI   
11. Esteban Ocon   FORCE INDIA MERCEDES   
12. Fernando Alonso   MCLAREN RENAULT   
13. Sergio Perez   FORCE INDIA MERCEDES   
14. Brendon Hartley   SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO HONDA   
15. Pierre Gasly   SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO HONDA   
16. Romain Grosjean   HAAS FERRARI   
17. Stoffel Vandoorne   MCLAREN RENAULT   
18. Kevin Magnussen   HAAS FERRARI   
19. Lance Stroll   WILLIAMS MERCEDES
20. Sergey Sirotkin   WILLIAMS MERCEDES

It was clear in the qualifiers that Ferrari had an edge, strangely enough for me in this track where Mercedes has win 5 races. This just make the title fight move to the next race as Hamilton and Mercedes will have an advantage in Mexico. Usually they have done well there and also in the Brazil race.

That leaves Ferrari very little chances to win the drivers Championship title, it is more like F1 marketing that Hamilton didn't win in USA.