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I was on Mercedes' side to take the 2nd spot in the standings in this Grand Prix to tell the truth. Because I don't think that Ferrari deserved this spot throughout the season.

Ferrari were always weak with their strategies as you have also stated. The drivers had to think of the best all the time. For example they didn't even understand what Sainz did in the Singapore Grand Prix.    Ferrari shouldn't continue with this strategy team. They are just terrible and Ferrari can't achieve anything with them even if they have the fastest car on the grid next season. I hope that Leclerc gets better as well next season because he was almost finishing behind Sainz if Sainz had a better weekend. 

The contract with the RNF Aprilia Team will not be renewed due to infractions, according to the official statement:

"Repeated offences and breaches of the participation agreement that affect the public image of MotoGP".

Whatever this statement means in detail, there are now two vacant positions and the search is on for replacements for the two Aprilia bikes. In my opinion, is this also a very short-term thing, or have Dorna been planning to bring a new team into MotoGP for some time?

Knalleffekt: Dem RNF-Team werden die MotoGP-Startplätze entzogen!

Ferrari is a complete disappointment. We miss their legendary days. Leclerc, although not as much of a winner as Sainz, showed that he is open to improvement. His attack, especially in the last part of the season, combined with Sainz's bad luck, finished the season above Sainz, his team-mate, brother and mentor.

I think the race was a very exciting race for the ranking of pilots and the ranking of teams, and there is a subject that no one pays attention to, which I think this race will be a 1-part material for Netflix. there was an old wolf on the track who was 4th in the pilots ranking with the 5th fastest car; Alonso. He is such a great driver, he finished 7th in front of hamilton with almost the slowest car on the straight and took 4th place in the pilots classification.

Well, that's too bad for the Ferrari strategy team, as usual they always work slowly and make a lot of blunders. Even when Charles desperately defended his position, they couldn't think of the best way so that at least Sainz wouldn't fall into the worst place and be disqualified. If they work properly, perhaps they will get second place, as their points are only narrowly behind Mercedes.
At this point I hope that Vasseur in the next season can change their strategy team, even Charles has a much better strategy compared to their strategy team, it's very funny.

Ferrari ended in 3rd spot in the leaderboard.

Not sure it is a bad thing, they will get less money as prize but more hours in the lab for testing

Accidents from other riders are something that does not need to be discussed because each rider has different abilities in carrying out today's race. Because basically Bagnaia, who started the race in pole position, was able to finish in first position, so that Bagnaia won the world championship today, which was absolutely due to his own efforts. If you think about accidents, there were indeed many riders who crashed today and made mistakes like Brad Binder did when he was leading the race. Likewise with Maverick Vinales yesterday, who perhaps didn't realize that his motorbike engine had exploded, so he was penalized today by dropping several positions, making Bagnaia the pole position.

Jorge Martin was really emotional so he failed to control himself so he appeared very persistent today and made a mistake because he touched the back of Bagnaia's motorbike on the third lap at the first corner, causing him (Martin) to drop to eighth position. Apart from that, Martin, who was impatient, also made the mistake of ramming Marquez's motorbike from behind, causing both of them to leave the race track. And today Pecco Bagnaia has done something quite extraordinary and also quite spectacular by starting the race in first position, and finishing in first position and celebrating his second world champion in the premier class and also his third overall. Now curse number 1 has been refuted and congratulations to Pecco Bagnaia who has successfully won the main MotoGP class back to back.

I think he will get it over it as soon as he goes to Honda and will forget about this season,he was there from the middle of the season as up until 6-7 races I remember Bezzechi being a title contender and after then it went all downhill for him.Sure most likely Martin will think about what would have happened if he would have not crashed but most likely he would still lose the title this season because as I said at least from what I remember he was not there from the beginning,or it was last season that Bezzechi was fighting and winning a race,I am sure it was this season and that my memory does not fail me,yeah it was in Argentina early on that he won.

What a disaster for Martin.
He threw his chance of winning it.

Was a mission impossible thing for him today but losing this way it will hurts him

Accidents are part of racing and I think Martin crashed out because he was too emotional at the start of the race.
I said yesterday that calm is not only for Bagnaia but for Martin it is also very important.
Whatever the reason, Bagnaia has broken the myth of using number 1 on a motorbike in the 2023 MotoGP championship.

Fierce competition occurs in the last sector. Finally, Congratulations to Bagnaia. 2023 MotoGP world champion.

Congratulations to Bagnaia for this season and congratulations to Martin who I think will be joining Honda next year and for me despite many being contrary to that move I agree with him as I believe Honda had enough of not winning Championships in the MotoGP and will be fighting hard to come back next season so hopefully we will see great action during next season.

As for the title being decided by a crash anything can happen in this sport,persons have even died so I am not surprised that the title is decided by a crash.

The decision has been made Bagnaia is double world champion, unfortunately decided by a crash, but Bagnaia is now fixed world champion, no matter what happens.

Congratulations to Bagnaia and also to Martin for being vice world champion.

Very good start from Bagnaia and Martin, Bagnaia first Martin now second before the end of the first lap.

The good thing is that when both are in front, nobody can or wants to intervene in the fight.

Bagnaia will try to find his rhythm and not drop out, but Martin can't risk everything either, if he crashes he loses everything...

And big fail from Martin now...

During the first lap I thought that your prediction come true but once Verstappen got rid of that Leclerc threat I doubt we will see any other winner now except Verstappen if we race under normal conditions,only race changing conditions or some problem can make Verstappen getting out of the race.

Meanwhile the DRS is making the tires going to degrade very faster and Russell complaining already in 6 laps,this race looks like it is going to be a boring one and people are already in the box.I think a Safety Car would change a lot here but highly unlikely from what I see so far.

I'm going to make a bold prediction!

Leclerc to win the race and gather 1st position in the first couple of laps.

Piastri to finish second and consolidate McLaren even further and also a nice way to end the year as a rookie.

Max to not finish the race....a bit of karma for him for 2021 end of the season would be nice and fair.

Martin did exactly what he was supposed to do and Bagnaia scored important points. But Martin also has to win today, yesterday it was a bit close with Binder.

It will be an exciting race today where a lot can happen, at least the other riders will try to stay out of the fight and not attack the two too aggressively.

Should Bagnaia win, he would be the first rider after Rossi and Marc Marques to successfully defend his MotoGP title.

Lately the strategy of Ferrari in these recent races has been very good and they have been able to do much better in the race rather than in qualifying.I know that Mercedes are just a bit more favored to win that second place in the constructors Championship but Ferrari as I said in the last races have been doing much better than Mercedes and they have even been able to fight against Redbull for some fragments in a race,based on this I would bet a lot of money for Ferrari to be second in the constructors Championship yet I don't see this as a bet in my casino where I play.

The competition between Ferari and Mercedes to win the second place is quite fierce, because Lecrec is in P2 and Russel in P4 in the race later. But I think that Mercedes might be able to maintain their second place, because Mercedes drivers are in a good position (P4 and P11) compared to Ferari (P2 and P16). But I don't know, maybe Ferari could get a second place in the race later if the strategy team did not do the blunder as they used to do.

Bagnaia lost points today.

Everything will be decided tomorrow, he just needs to end in 5th position to be the champion regardless of what Martil will be able to do.

Maybe what happened to Martin in Qatar will not happen again in Valencia, but tomorrow is quite an important day for Bagnaia in confirming his position. Because Martin will continue to appear persistent and will also use all his abilities to win the race, Bagnaia must be able to ensure that he finishes near the podium, such as in fourth position.

So tomorrow will be a decisive day for Bagnaia and Martin in their struggle for a full season in MotoGP this season so that tomorrow will be quite an important day for both of them and will be the day of their final fight this season for the championship title. And Bagnaia must not be too relaxed as he showed today in the Sprint Race.

The F1 race of tomorrow promises to be a good one judging by the places how the drivers are lined up,it is pretty disperse between them all with some good drivers like Perez and Sainz starting way behind,together with Hamilton.I think there will be no surprises unfortunately for tomorrow race as most likely Redbull is going to dominate the race,we know Ferrari is great at a single lap being a super fast car but rarely we have seen a Ferrari behaving well in the race except that time where Sainz won actually a race with Ferrari during this year.