Biggest loser in this rwce was Leclerc. I like the guy but he needs to have some grit and be an asshole on the grid or he'll keep losing his spot... And in this race, he was losing to his own team mate Carlos Sainz. It's prolly cos Sainz mad because he was thrown out of the team. Lol.
Anyway here are the results of the race. And would you guys think Ricciardo would've passed Magnusen if Tsunoda allowed Ricciardo to pass him earlier?
2024 F1 Bahrain GP Race Results
Max Verstappen 1:31:44.742
Sergio Perez +22.457s
Carlos Sainz +25.110s
Charles Leclerc +39.669s
George Russell +46.788s
Lando Norris +48.458s
Lewis Hamilton +50.324s
Oscar Piastri +56.082s
Fernando Alonso +74.887s
Lance Stroll +93.216s
Zhou Guanyu +1 lap
Kevin Magnussen +1 lap
Daniel Ricciardo +1 lap
Yuki Tsunoda +1 lap
Alexander Albon +1 lap
Nico Hulkenberg +1 lap
Esteban Ocon +1 lap
Pierre Gasly +1 lap
Valtteri Bottas +1 lap
Logan Sargeant +2 laps
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March 03, 2024, 07:40:35 AM
March 03, 2024, 06:49:10 AM
It was a very smooth win by Verstappen. 
This mustn't have surprised anyone. The surprising part was Perez's showing a really good performance in the race. I'm keen on seeing it more from him to consolidate his place in his seat also. The disappointing part was obviously Leclerc's having a poorer result than the expectations. 
His car was just so problematic and the team couldn't find a solution to the front tyre lock up problem for a long time. This cost Leclerc too much and he had to do an early pit...
I hope this season also doesn't go on like this for Leclerc. He is just so unlucky.
This mustn't have surprised anyone. The surprising part was Perez's showing a really good performance in the race. I'm keen on seeing it more from him to consolidate his place in his seat also. The disappointing part was obviously Leclerc's having a poorer result than the expectations. His car was just so problematic and the team couldn't find a solution to the front tyre lock up problem for a long time. This cost Leclerc too much and he had to do an early pit...
I hope this season also doesn't go on like this for Leclerc. He is just so unlucky.
March 02, 2024, 05:28:33 PM
Another demonstration of force by Max and RedBull and I think it's fair to say they should already give the title to him but also to RedBull. However , the battle for 2-4th place should be an epic one and my prediction is that Mercedes will barely keep 4th place this season as this car doesn't seem trusty over an entire race but they still have a lot of time to improve the car but the power unit itself I doubt it can be improve a lot.
They are still the best but their advantage is decreased.
Sainz ended at 20 seconds ish, while the past year in the 1st race he finished at 50.
Not counting Leclerc for the break problems or he could challenge Perez for the second position.
March 02, 2024, 02:38:58 PM
Looks like one of the most important parts about Red Bull this season (usually every season but more important this year) is that they focused on tire management. They already have the best car, that's not the way they can become better, there is a limit to how much faster your car can be and I can see that during DRS periods they are faster than any other car out there, so their peak is higher than everyone already. So they found tire management focus more important and this resulted with them doing as well as they can. Max basically managed to race the whole track around the same time for the whole race, that is unique while everyone else lost time slowly every lap.
March 02, 2024, 12:31:06 PM
Another demonstration of force by Max and RedBull and I think it's fair to say they should already give the title to him but also to RedBull. However , the battle for 2-4th place should be an epic one and my prediction is that Mercedes will barely keep 4th place this season as this car doesn't seem trusty over an entire race but they still have a lot of time to improve the car but the power unit itself I doubt it can be improve a lot.
March 02, 2024, 07:59:03 AM
Lewis Hamilton struggled greatly in the Bahrain Grand Prix qualifying, placing only at position 9. This was significantly far from his teammate George Russell, who managed to secure the 3rd spot in qualifying. Meanwhile, the top position still belonged to Red Bull's Max Verstappen. It seems that this season, Max Verstappen will once again easily become the World Champion. Other teams have not made significant improvements to balance their car's capabilities compare with redbull.
It is just a lap and who knows the real power of the cars which we are going to definitely see today a big chunk of the real power of each team.I think that Hamilton is already with his head at Ferrari and I am sure he can't wait for this season to finish no matter that it has just started officially,I am sure he is dreaming of winning a couple more world titles with that car so I can fully agree with this if he is really thinking like that,what I want to say is that it is completely normal for him to be thinking of Ferrari rather than to be thinking maximizing this season which seems difficult to get a world title.
March 02, 2024, 07:38:44 AM
Here are the results for qualifying. I kinda didn't expect this after seeing the results from FP1 thru FP3. I guess Horner and Newey pulled a rabbit out of the hat from this one. That's the tandem Ferrari wants and it's as clear as night and day both are going there to help Hamilton win his next driver's championship.
2024 F1 Bahrain GP Qualifying Highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnT5ot8_arI
2024 F1 Bahrain GP Qualifying Results
Max Verstappen 1:30.031 1:29.374 1:29.179
Charles Leclerc 1:30.243 1:29.165 1:29.407
George Russell 1:30.350 1:29.922 1:29.485
Carlos Sainz 1:29.909 1:29.573 1:29.507
Sergio Perez 1:30.221 1:29.932 1:29.537
Fernando Alonso 1:30.179 1:29.801 1:29.542
Lando Norris 1:30.143 1:29.941 1:29.614
Oscar Piastri 1:30.531 1:30.122 1:29.683
Lewis Hamilton 1:30.451 1:29.718 1:29.710
Nico Hulkenberg 1:30.566 1:29.851 1:30.502
Yuki Tsunoda 1:30.481 1:30.129
Lance Stroll 1:29.965 1:30.200
Alexander Albon 1:30.397 1:30.221
Daniel Ricciardo 1:30.562 1:30.278
Kevin Magnussen 1:30.646 1:30.529
Valtteri Bottas 1:30.756
Zhou Guanyu 1:30.757
Logan Sargeant 1:30.770
Esteban Ocon 1:30.793
Pierre Gasly 1:30.948
2024 F1 Bahrain GP Qualifying Highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnT5ot8_arI
2024 F1 Bahrain GP Qualifying Results
Max Verstappen 1:30.031 1:29.374 1:29.179
Charles Leclerc 1:30.243 1:29.165 1:29.407
George Russell 1:30.350 1:29.922 1:29.485
Carlos Sainz 1:29.909 1:29.573 1:29.507
Sergio Perez 1:30.221 1:29.932 1:29.537
Fernando Alonso 1:30.179 1:29.801 1:29.542
Lando Norris 1:30.143 1:29.941 1:29.614
Oscar Piastri 1:30.531 1:30.122 1:29.683
Lewis Hamilton 1:30.451 1:29.718 1:29.710
Nico Hulkenberg 1:30.566 1:29.851 1:30.502
Yuki Tsunoda 1:30.481 1:30.129
Lance Stroll 1:29.965 1:30.200
Alexander Albon 1:30.397 1:30.221
Daniel Ricciardo 1:30.562 1:30.278
Kevin Magnussen 1:30.646 1:30.529
Valtteri Bottas 1:30.756
Zhou Guanyu 1:30.757
Logan Sargeant 1:30.770
Esteban Ocon 1:30.793
Pierre Gasly 1:30.948
March 02, 2024, 05:25:41 AM
Lewis Hamilton struggled greatly in the Bahrain Grand Prix qualifying, placing only at position 9. This was significantly far from his teammate George Russell, who managed to secure the 3rd spot in qualifying. Meanwhile, the top position still belonged to Red Bull's Max Verstappen. It seems that this season, Max Verstappen will once again easily become the World Champion. Other teams have not made significant improvements to balance their car's capabilities compare with redbull.
March 02, 2024, 04:47:37 AM
Ferrari can challenge Red Bull in single lap performance, just as they did last year. However, last year Ferrari ran out of tires too early and the races were lackluster. If they can overcome this problem this year, the season will be exciting. The race pace shows that the tire performance is also better than last year. Leclerc and Ferrari may surprise us this year, unlike in previous years. Leclerc would have taken pole if he had done his best for the second sector on the last lap.
It doesn't take a soothsayer to know that Verstappen will be champion again. Their car is excellent and they will make good improvements during the year. The perfect car, perfect driver combination is irresistible. I hope this season will be as competitive as possible.
It doesn't take a soothsayer to know that Verstappen will be champion again. Their car is excellent and they will make good improvements during the year. The perfect car, perfect driver combination is irresistible. I hope this season will be as competitive as possible.
It looks like it is what Ferrari can do the most this season also. They are solid in qualifying session again but probably they will drop a lot in comparison to Red Bull when it comes to racing tempo.
There is nothing to do for now when we consider the Adrian Newey factor at Red Bull also. They are really lucky to have him but I wonder what will happen by big changes in 2026. 
Perez looked the same in qualifying unfortunately. He is still struggling to be right behind Verstappen. If he keeps this up for a long time this season the chance of parting ways with him would increase quite much.
March 02, 2024, 02:01:16 AM
Pole position for Verstappen without the fastest time.
Lecrler was able to be faster but it was Q2, he did the perfect lap 5 minutes before but it do not count.
Lecrler was able to be faster but it was Q2, he did the perfect lap 5 minutes before but it do not count.
Leclerc has given his best performance by finishing in P2, even though I thought that this time Sainz could be in a better position than Leclerc, but my estimate was wrong. However, this is a pretty good start for Ferrari because they managed to finish in P2 and P4 positions, this shows positive performance from the development of the SF-24 and hopefully this will continue until the end of the season.
March 01, 2024, 06:07:10 PM
Ferrari can challenge Red Bull in single lap performance,
Yeah like the past year, Ferrari is very fast on single lap.
The strength of RBR however is the low degradation of tires, tomorrow we will see if anyone can compete with them.
March 01, 2024, 04:26:02 PM
I do not think that they can even do that. Ferrari is of course better than Perez, Charles is doing great and Sainz is there too, Perez is not even a problem for them, which is why I am still shocked that Red Bull is still working with Perez, same car that Max has but nowhere near the performance, nobody can show the same performance as Max of course, but Perez is not even close. Aside from that, if we are talking about Max, ferrari can't get even close, sure they did better at Q2 when you think about it, but that's mainly because Max does what he needs to do, we have see this dude run perfect lap better than what even a computer imagined could be done. I believe that pole position is quite important, but also at races he can start 10th and still finish first, so its not really that much of a deal for him neither.
March 01, 2024, 03:57:23 PM
Ferrari can challenge Red Bull in single lap performance, just as they did last year. However, last year Ferrari ran out of tires too early and the races were lackluster. If they can overcome this problem this year, the season will be exciting. The race pace shows that the tire performance is also better than last year. Leclerc and Ferrari may surprise us this year, unlike in previous years. Leclerc would have taken pole if he had done his best for the second sector on the last lap.
It doesn't take a soothsayer to know that Verstappen will be champion again. Their car is excellent and they will make good improvements during the year. The perfect car, perfect driver combination is irresistible. I hope this season will be as competitive as possible.
It doesn't take a soothsayer to know that Verstappen will be champion again. Their car is excellent and they will make good improvements during the year. The perfect car, perfect driver combination is irresistible. I hope this season will be as competitive as possible.
March 01, 2024, 02:34:14 PM
Pole position for Verstappen without the fastest time.
Lecrler was able to be faster but it was Q2, he did the perfect lap 5 minutes before but it do not count.
Lecrler was able to be faster but it was Q2, he did the perfect lap 5 minutes before but it do not count.
March 01, 2024, 01:11:35 PM
they are still hiding, the predicted time from SkyTV for the poleposition is 1.28.5/1.29
They are still at 90% of the engine or less
They are still at 90% of the engine or less
In fact it showed that they were hiding,the true pace was 1.29.175 for Verstappen who again made a difference because of his driving skills as Perez was not able to beat the Ferraris for example.On another note the Ferrari has always performed well in this track and has always fought for victory in here.I am a bit shocked with McLaren results as they are much weaker than they were in the last season ending and I think they have not worked in the right way,it is a shame not being able to capitalize on their last season ending performance and also Mercedes was weak.Let's see the race of tomorrow to get a better understanding where the cars really are as just one lap is not enough to get a clear view.
March 01, 2024, 09:39:19 AM
they are still hiding, the predicted time from SkyTV for the poleposition is 1.28.5/1.29
They are still at 90% of the engine or less
They are still at 90% of the engine or less
March 01, 2024, 09:06:49 AM
According to simulations timers
Verstappen was the fastest
Half second behind, Leclerc and Perez with Mercedes but Merdeces were getting some random drops in some laps.
Sainz behind them.
Verstappen was the fastest
Half second behind, Leclerc and Perez with Mercedes but Merdeces were getting some random drops in some laps.
Sainz behind them.
But it doesn't look like it in FP3. Let's see how Red Bull reacts at quali after they get more data from FP3. But to me it doesn't look good. They were not sand bagging all along. They're really a tad slow this weekend. But then again, are they leveling everybody by sand bagging at FP3?
Here are the results for FP3.
2024 F1 Bahrain GP FP3 Results
Carlos Sainz 1:30.824
Fernando Alonso 1:30.965 +0.141s
Max Verstappen 1:31.062 +0.238s
Charles Leclerc 1:31.094 +0.270s
Lando Norris 1:31.118 +0.294s
George Russell 1:31.190 +0.366s
Oscar Piastri 1:31.210 +0.386s
Sergio Perez 1:31.248 +0.424s
Nico Hulkenberg 1:31.278 +0.454s
Lance Stroll 1:31.396 +0.572s
Daniel Ricciardo 1:31.449 +0.625s
Lewis Hamilton 1:31.452 +0.628s
Yuki Tsunoda 1:31.631 +0.807s
Kevin Magnussen 1:31.671 +0.847s
Alexander Albon 1:31.965 +1.141s
Zhou Guanyu 1:32.000 +1.176s
Valtteri Bottas 1:32.096 +1.272s
Esteban Ocon 1:32.124 +1.300s
Logan Sargeant 1:32.125 +1.301s
Pierre Gasly 1:32.382 +1.558s
March 01, 2024, 05:50:30 AM
I think we will have more realistic times in FP3 today. Because it is the session right before qualifying and I guess the drivers would like to set better laps as a warm-up.
Truthfully it is quite challenging to predict the qualifying and race results. Because it is only the beginning of the season. I'm just waiting and hoping for a surprise at Red Bull side.
It would be nice to see the season starting with a different race winner. If it happens I would like to see Leclerc making it because of having a really disappointing season the last time.
The schedule ahead is like this:
Truthfully it is quite challenging to predict the qualifying and race results. Because it is only the beginning of the season. I'm just waiting and hoping for a surprise at Red Bull side.
It would be nice to see the season starting with a different race winner. If it happens I would like to see Leclerc making it because of having a really disappointing season the last time.The schedule ahead is like this:
February 29, 2024, 12:36:49 PM
According to simulations timers
Verstappen was the fastest
Half second behind, Leclerc and Perez with Mercedes but Merdeces were getting some random drops in some laps.
Sainz behind them.
Verstappen was the fastest
Half second behind, Leclerc and Perez with Mercedes but Merdeces were getting some random drops in some laps.
Sainz behind them.
February 29, 2024, 12:25:57 PM
Mercedes and Red Bull were sand bagging at FP1 then Mercedes showing their real speed at FP2 while Red Bull is still sand bagging... I think we'll see all these guys show how fast they are by FP3. By quali it's gonna be Mercedes and Red Bull at Q3 going at each other.
At least that's what I wanna see.
Anyway here's the results for second practice...
2024 F1 Bahrain GP FP2 Results
Lewis Hamilton 1:30.374
George Russell 1:30.580 +0.206s
Fernando Alonso 1:30.660 +0.286s
Carlos Sainz 1:30.769 +0.395s
Oscar Piastri 1:30.784 +0.410s
Max Verstappen 1:30.851 +0.477s
Nico Hulkenberg 1:30.884 +0.510s
Lance Stroll 1:30.891 +0.517s
Charles Leclerc 1:31.113 +0.739s
Sergio Perez 1:31.115 +0.741s
Alexander Albon 1:31.333 +0.959s
Daniel Ricciardo 1:31.516 +1.142s
Logan Sargeant 1:31.715 +1.341s
Kevin Magnussen 1:31.764 +1.390s
Yuki Tsunoda 1:31.881 +1.507s
Pierre Gasly 1:31.951 +1.577s
Valtteri Bottas 1:32.001 +1.627s
Esteban Ocon 1:32.027 +1.653s
Zhou Guanyu 1:32.048 +1.674s
Lando Norris 1:32.608 +2.234s
I think we'll see all these guys show how fast they are by FP3. By quali it's gonna be Mercedes and Red Bull at Q3 going at each other. At least that's what I wanna see.
Anyway here's the results for second practice...
2024 F1 Bahrain GP FP2 Results
Lewis Hamilton 1:30.374
George Russell 1:30.580 +0.206s
Fernando Alonso 1:30.660 +0.286s
Carlos Sainz 1:30.769 +0.395s
Oscar Piastri 1:30.784 +0.410s
Max Verstappen 1:30.851 +0.477s
Nico Hulkenberg 1:30.884 +0.510s
Lance Stroll 1:30.891 +0.517s
Charles Leclerc 1:31.113 +0.739s
Sergio Perez 1:31.115 +0.741s
Alexander Albon 1:31.333 +0.959s
Daniel Ricciardo 1:31.516 +1.142s
Logan Sargeant 1:31.715 +1.341s
Kevin Magnussen 1:31.764 +1.390s
Yuki Tsunoda 1:31.881 +1.507s
Pierre Gasly 1:31.951 +1.577s
Valtteri Bottas 1:32.001 +1.627s
Esteban Ocon 1:32.027 +1.653s
Zhou Guanyu 1:32.048 +1.674s
Lando Norris 1:32.608 +2.234s
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