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I don't think so, considering that Ferrari has improved their downforce and maybe at the Abu Dhabi race they will give an interesting race against RBR and Mercedes. Indeed, there were several missed strategies in yesterday's Las Vegas race which knocked Sainz out of P2. But if Sainz and Charles can enter the top 5 in the qualifying session for the Abu Dhabi race, perhaps the Ferrari duo can provide fierce resistance against RBR. Remember that last year Charles and Sainz were in the top 4 in the Abu Dhabi race, and maybe they will learn and improve their performance in the next race and maybe they will win the next race.

That was fun because there was a championship to be won, this dude won like 18 races so far this season if I am not wrong, he is in for so many records all at the same time for a single season, they are really doing something marvelous at Red Bull too, but Max is insane for being as good as he is. I do not think that the season had any "fun" in it left when we are talking about the current situation if we are talking about the title, he has been the champion for so many races now.

However, there was at least some fun left for "who will be the second", because Perez had so many mistakes, and Hamilton had a growing number of podiums, so the direction looked like maybe Hamilton could be second, and yet it looks like he is not going to be. At this point the only thing that will be decided here will be who will be fourth, and that's not really that fun, deciding fourth fifth and sixth at this race will happen, but I do not think that it's that much fun.

Right?    Red Bull are at another level at the moment. Verstappen is already one of the best drivers now indeed. When we combine these things there is an incredible picture being shown to us. Even with a broken front wing Verstappen's work was huge. Russell probably didn't see or expect him to attack there I think which is why he steered toward Verstappen. Verstappen also said the same.

Other than that it was one of the great races in the calendar. Normally I'm not fond of this track though because of its being very dull.

By the way wasn't it interesting to see Verstappen talking negatively about this track and atmosphere first and later singing "viva las vegas" on the radio?  

Yes, I agree. But that seems too rash to say now because there are conditions where no one can predict what will happen in the final round of the race. If you remember the Valencia MotoGP race in 2006 where Rossi was ahead of Hayden in points, I don't think anyone predicted that Hayden would be world champion that year. But in reality Hayden could become world champion because Rossi crashed in Valencia even though he was still able to continue the race and finish in 13th place.

Both of them have their own strategies and of course know what they have to do, because basically Bagnaia himself shouldn't be too relaxed in this last round. Even though Bagnaia himself is no longer too pressured by the distance in points he has, Bagnaia still has to keep himself from crashing in the race and I hope that the race in the final round can take place in dry conditions.

If you look at the whole of this season in general, Marc Marquez actually seems to have lost his winning talent this season. However, there are many people who are waiting for his comeback next season with a motorbike that is a year older at Gresini, because the seat left by Fabio Di Giannantonio will be filled by Marc Marquez. However, I'm also not sure that he can make a comeback next year with a very different motorbike from the one he usually uses this season.

The 2023 title already belongs to Bagnaia. Do you agree?
For Martin and Bagnaia, in Valencia there is still a sprint race which can provide points before the race.
Bagnaia already knows what he has to do in the final race. Likewise, Martin already knows what needs to be done with the difference in points he has with Bagnaia.
Racing in Qatar, Martin appeared in a performance that he himself did not want.

By the way, regarding Marc Marquez when he was about to congratulate Fabio Di Giannantonio, did you notice that he doesn't look like a rider who has never been world champion.

I will see what drama will happen this week in Valencia as the closing round of MotoGP this season, because next weekend Jorge Martin will try to win in every session to prevent Bagnaia from becoming world champion again this season, even though it looks like it will be very difficult for him , considering that Bagnaia's distance in points is starting to get quite large.

It is also less logical to blame the team when a rider who already has talent finds it difficult to become world champion, because teams like Pramac Racing only provide motorbikes that match the ones they purchased through the Ducati Factory. So the problem was Jorge Martin himself, who didn't start the race correctly when he started the race.

Bagnaia's chances of becoming world champion at the moment are certainly greater, whereas Martin just has to win in every session in order to prevent Bagnaia from becoming champion while hoping that Bagnaia doesn't get points in the sprint and main race. So it will be quite difficult because Bagnaia doesn't need to hunt for a podium in order to become world champion.

I do not follow MotoGP much this year but I'm interested to find some news especially after what happened in the last race. Martin was great in the Sprint Race but failed to show his best in the Main Race. I have no idea what happened to him, but he did a bad start and he could not even compete for the top 5 although he tried to do it in the first few laps. Bagnaia has better chance obviously because he needs 16 points only which can be earned by finish on 5th both in the sprint and main race. With the current situation, I think the only way for Martin to win the world champion is if Bagnaia crashed in Valencia and Martin win both the last sprint and main race next Sunday.

It will be very difficult for Martin now, there are still 37 points to be awarded, but firstly Martin has to win both races and secondly Bagnaia would have to have two very bad races or two crashes which I don't think will happen, unless there is not a big surprise Bagnaia will win the World Championship title in Valencia.

I doubt we will see anything different from this track,we remember 2021 in here where it was a phenomenal race that saw Verstappen get that very much contested title,I think though now things are different and I doubt Ferrari or Mercedes would fight to stop Redbull and Verstappen dominance of this year.

Most likely it will be a boring race unless some Safety Car comes in and changes things dramatically but even so this season has been extremely boring and it shows by the statistics,20 races won by Redbull.

Already time for another Gp.
And this will be the last one of the season.

They will race in Abu-Dhabi

Its incredible how dominant this RedBull car is, with his front wing damage he still cut the gap and surprases Leclerc without so much effort, i know Max is a super driver, but that car is out of this competition.
For ferrari still good to see they find something good in the car so they can keep working for the next year.

Charles Leclerc had a wonderful race despite not having anything he could do against Verstappen at a point. He did his best but lost to him due to car difference in the first place. When it comes to driver skills I can say Verstappen is the best on the grid now as well. I wouldn't like to disrespect other very skilled and experienced drivers as well of course. 

Anyway coming back to the race Leclerc's great attack against Perez there really deserved applauding. He must have given his 100% in this race to have the best result he could. Perez seemed really thoughtful right after the race.

it's true that it's almost impossible for martin to get the motogp world championship. as i said, martin has good talent like bagnaia, but he has the wrong team which is holding back his performance and making him almost fail to get the world championship title this season.

this weekend's race will determine whether martin or bagnaia will be the winner. bagnaia only needs 4 more points than martin to secure the world championship title. and for martin, he just needs a miracle so bagnaia can't finish the race and sprint, and then he can win the world championship title.

The first podium fight was very interesting yesterday and was won by Fabio Di Giannantonio and the first podium for him in the MotoGP class, for Zarco and Marquez yesterday they were very good at controlling Martin by not passing him and several times I saw Zarco make way for Martin without giving the slightest resistance. like Fabio Di Giannantonio who gave resistance to Bagnaia.

I think Charles got the countries mixed up and instead of Las Vegas, the centre of glamour, he thought he was in Monaco, another centre of glamour, and made a wonderful passing. At the end of the race, in the conversation between the drivers, leclerc was trying to find out if verstappen had pitted behind the safety car. He kept asking verstappen if he thought my tyres were older than yours. It was an enjoyable and competitive race compared to expectations. If sainz had not been given a grid penalty, I am sure it would have had an impact on the race and the struggle. A very enjoyable race that unexpectedly did the city justice. Luck was never on Ferrari's side this week, but lec created his own luck, it was very enjoyable to watch this ambition and stubbornness. While Ferrari was going to set up a team game, they encountered rb who set up a team game.

Pedro Acosta from Moto2 had already celebrated world champion this season in the previous series, only Jaume Masia celebrated world champion Moto3 in Lusail, Qatar. And for Jorge Martin, who made a mistake when the race started was the core of the problems experienced by Jorge Martin at Lusail Qatar, because Martin was trapped with a crowd of many riders in the middle row. Meanwhile, Bagnaia made a very good start so he was able to immediately push to the front when the race started.

At Valencia, Bagnaia will no longer be so stressed, although he won't have to relax because there are still unexpected possibilities he will have to face there. Moreover, Johan Zarco and Marquez might cause a little drama as seen in yesterday's race, but I prefer the fighting style that Fabio Di Giannantonio has on an old motorbike to the 2023 version of the motorbike ridden by Bagnaia. However, I also have to appreciate Bagnaia's efforts, who led the race for many laps even though he made a small mistake with three laps left in the race.

I don't think it will be that tight honestly,Mercedes has been not doing well at all lately and I don't understand why such a downturn in their pace when just some races before it looked like they were coming back.Ferrari is on a much better performance in the recent races and that for me is enough to decide that most likely without idiotic penalties like that of Sainz in this race,Ferrari is going to win this battle,after all they have been the better team and have also won races during this season,something Mercedes has not done.

Leclerc's pass on Perez on the last lap gives Ferrari an extra 3 points, which will be crucial at least for the race for second place in the constructors' race at the last race of the season, the Abu Dhabi GP. At the moment Mercedes is only 4 points ahead of Ferrari. If Leclerc hadn't passed Perez on the last lap, there would have been a 7 point gap, which would have made the next race perhaps less enjoyable. But with the points gap narrowing, it looks like we're going to see a tight battle for second place in the constructors race.

Jaume Masia and Pedro Acosta have become world champions in Lusail Qatar. Pecco Bagnaia was careless by making a small mistake so he missed podium number 1. Bagnaia's competition with Fabio Di Giannantonio was quite fierce in the last few laps. For Bagnaia supporters, the race results at Lusail Qatar were quite satisfying because Jorge Martin finished in 10th position.

21 points difference with Martin from 7 points before the race.
Moto2, podiums 1,2,3 belong to Spanish riders. MotoGP, 1,2,3 belongs to Italian riders.
Bagnaian's decision in Valencia.

@coinlocket$ I was surprised that Martin didn’t perform well yesterday because he could have a solid advantage by winning this race but in the end he failed and that’s why his odds have crashed. Furthermore I feel that now the momentum is with Bagnaia and he can successfully go on to win the MotoGP title unless Martin can spring a surprise in the finale.