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legendary
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Yeah, it will be even a bigger Ducati dominance this year.

I'm guessing that the 2023 ducati will be better than new 2024 other moto

I hope it doesn't turn out that way, the 2023 Ducati will probably be even faster than the Yamaha and Honda models, but I hope that KTM and Aprilia will be at least as fast or faster than the 2023 Ducati models.
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As recently speculated here, Ducati, KTM and Aprilia are now certain how many of the new 2024 specification bikes will be used.

Ducati and KTM will each have four and Aprilia 3 according to this latest report.

https://www.speedweek.com/motogp/news/217526/Offiziell-Miguel-Oliveira-bekommt-2024-Werks-Aprilia.html
It is natural that the manufacturers are starting to be confident in what they have developed so far, because the three manufacturers are really working very well and really want to compete with each other in the 2024 competition. So their confidence in what they have done so far will be greater and more complete for their riders to use and for now I am starting to look forward to seeing the pre-season tests at Sepang and also at several other circuits.
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As recently speculated here, Ducati, KTM and Aprilia are now certain how many of the new 2024 specification bikes will be used.

Ducati and KTM will each have four and Aprilia 3 according to this latest report.

https://www.speedweek.com/motogp/news/217526/Offiziell-Miguel-Oliveira-bekommt-2024-Werks-Aprilia.html

Yeah, it will be even a bigger Ducati dominance this year.

I'm guessing that the 2023 ducati will be better than new 2024 other moto
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Ferrari announced their announce of the annunciation of the car  Grin

It will be on 13th February.


2 months and it will start again.



I'm really excited to see with what kind of a car they will have a poor season this time.  Grin  Vasseur must have wanted to lower the expectations for a big improvement. Because he said something like having nearly completely new parts doesn't mean having a much better car. He is right about that in fact because their position among the other teams after doing this will be the most important part.

If Ferrari can't build a better car than Mercedes, Aston Martin and McLaren they can still have a lot of difficulties for taking the second spot. I believe that they didn't deserve that position last season despite being a Leclerc fan. So I wanted Mercedes to take it honestly and they did.
legendary
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As recently speculated here, Ducati, KTM and Aprilia are now certain how many of the new 2024 specification bikes will be used.

Ducati and KTM will each have four and Aprilia 3 according to this latest report.

https://www.speedweek.com/motogp/news/217526/Offiziell-Miguel-Oliveira-bekommt-2024-Werks-Aprilia.html
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Nice!  I'm very excited on all different levels from good to bad, from serious to hilarious, from rooting for them to rooting against them.  Whatever it may be...  Ferrari can't really be ignored.  Grin

I mean I think it's funny when the team fumbles the bag for a race or two.  But for Leclerc's sake, please give him a competitive car this time.  The team promised to give him one starting at 2024 when he signed a new 5 year contract.  Let's hope it won't be 5 years of memes.

We don't have so many new rules so in Theory it should be easier to catch up to Red Bull.

I'm not sayint they will not dominate but teams should be closer this year.
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Ferrari announced a new car for 2024.

It will be not a progression of the 2023 car as usually happens.

It will be a new brand project.

Nice!  I'm very excited on all different levels from good to bad, from serious to hilarious, from rooting for them to rooting against them.  Whatever it may be...  Ferrari can't really be ignored.  Grin

I mean I think it's funny when the team fumbles the bag for a race or two.  But for Leclerc's sake, please give him a competitive car this time.  The team promised to give him one starting at 2024 when he signed a new 5 year contract.  Let's hope it won't be 5 years of memes.
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Ferrari announced their announce of the annunciation of the car  Grin

It will be on 13th February.


2 months and it will start again.

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With Ducati and the quality drivers that they have, it is definitely going to be hard for the Asian manufacturers to actually give them a big competition.  I am starting to think that Ducati is actually going to run away with the competition. Probably no one will actually be able to give them a very good competition. Obviously, there is going to be competition. But it is not going to be that competitive if you know what I mean.
For next season, the Ducati manufacturer will only compete with its own satellite team, even though the Ducati boss himself has also said that the Ducati Gp24 motorbike will be very different from the Ducati Gp23 motorbike that will be used by their own satellite team. Apart from that, recently Asian manufacturers such as Honda have also carried out private tests in Jerez to see the development of the engines they have and the ones they will use next season. Because Honda probably won't create a whole new engine, but will only change a few things in the previous engine to get better performance next season.
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Well at the end of the day, every person is going to be biased to some degree. And the decision of every person is going to be influenced by some things one way or another.

Anyway, I think you are right. Of course, there is a reason for him to want to stay with Ducati. And for him, it is the right decision, at least in my opinion. But we have to wait and see if this actually works out or not. Isn't it better for Ducati as well?
This will indeed be much better for Ducati because the Ducati factory can have more references from the three satellite teams they have like this season. Likewise with next season and the following season because Ducati will not be so difficult to make improvements to their motorbikes in each season, while Asian manufacturers are always several steps behind in that regard so they are starting to find it difficult to compete with European manufacturers, especially with Ducati.

With Ducati and the quality drivers that they have, it is definitely going to be hard for the Asian manufacturers to actually give them a big competition.  I am starting to think that Ducati is actually going to run away with the competition. Probably no one will actually be able to give them a very good competition. Obviously, there is going to be competition. But it is not going to be that competitive if you know what I mean.
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I'm wondering about potential changes for top teams except Red Bull next season. I'm excluding Red Bul from this because it is already obvious how strong they will be.  Grin  Who knows maybe McLaren can attack really hard against Mercedes and Ferrari this time and manage to be the second most powerful team in the sport.  Smiley

I would love to see Norris having a car as fast as the cars of those teams to see his performance at equal standards. He is one of the most talented drivers on the grid now.

Aston Martin started the last season really strongly - especially Alonso. But it didn't take them too long to start going down. I wonder how consistent they will be next season.
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Ferrari announced a new car for 2024.

It will be not a progression of the 2023 car as usually happens.

It will be a new brand project.

I hope ferrari's new car has improved a lot so that it can be fast on the track. and can compete evenly with the powerful redbull car.
The competition if only the winners in one redbull team is not good to enjoy and very boring to watch.
What's more there is no point competition in the world championship because the point gap is always far away.
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Ferrari announced a new car for 2024.

It will be not a progression of the 2023 car as usually happens.

It will be a new brand project.

The launch of a new car that will be displayed by Ferrari next year has many fans waiting to see how it will perform in the next season. Rumors say that the new car will feature more efficiency, a stronger chassis, and many other things that were removed from the previous SF-23 car to improve its performance. And the Ferrari team even said that this car was a revolution, where the team replaced 95% of the components of the car which made it a "brand new car" whose performance could possibly rival the Red Bull car. I'm pretty excited to see how Ferrari's new car performs, let's see if it lives up to what they say or not.
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Well at the end of the day, every person is going to be biased to some degree. And the decision of every person is going to be influenced by some things one way or another.

Anyway, I think you are right. Of course, there is a reason for him to want to stay with Ducati. And for him, it is the right decision, at least in my opinion. But we have to wait and see if this actually works out or not. Isn't it better for Ducati as well?
This will indeed be much better for Ducati because the Ducati factory can have more references from the three satellite teams they have like this season. Likewise with next season and the following season because Ducati will not be so difficult to make improvements to their motorbikes in each season, while Asian manufacturers are always several steps behind in that regard so they are starting to find it difficult to compete with European manufacturers, especially with Ducati.
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Uccio himself a few days ago also expressed his desire to stay at Ducati until 2026 by taking advantage of Ducati's condition in each season. Because the VR46 team is also targeting to become world champion, even though next season they will work with a rider who is not from their own academy, namely Diggiantonio who is filling Luca Marini's seat after leaving for Honda next season. I also think that they still want to stay on Ducati because the reason is quite clear, namely the Champion motorbike, so it's clearly not bad for the championship and it's also not bad not to move to another motorbike.

Well at the end of the day, every person is going to be biased to some degree. And the decision of every person is going to be influenced by some things one way or another.

Anyway, I think you are right. Of course, there is a reason for him to want to stay with Ducati. And for him, it is the right decision, at least in my opinion. But we have to wait and see if this actually works out or not. Isn't it better for Ducati as well?
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I believe these situations are only going to be regretted by them if they eventually are not able to perform well in the future. And the thing is nobody knows what will happen in the future. So I believe they should really think about it hard and come up with the decision which they feel is the best. Once they make a decision, they will have to try their best to make sure that it is the best decision that they have made. I do not think Ducati is a bad decision, to be honest. But you never know.
Uccio himself a few days ago also expressed his desire to stay at Ducati until 2026 by taking advantage of Ducati's condition in each season. Because the VR46 team is also targeting to become world champion, even though next season they will work with a rider who is not from their own academy, namely Diggiantonio who is filling Luca Marini's seat after leaving for Honda next season. I also think that they still want to stay on Ducati because the reason is quite clear, namely the Champion motorbike, so it's clearly not bad for the championship and it's also not bad not to move to another motorbike.
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It turns out that the VR46 team is currently experiencing a very big dilemma in making a decision regarding extending the contract with which manufacturer after 2024. Because they also received offers from several other manufacturers such as Yamaha, but they also still have to consider Ducati motorbikes because in general motorbikes Ducati has more energy to use in competition so there is a dilemma on their part when they want to make new decisions after next season.
Source: https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/the-big-dilemma-facing-valentino-rossis-motogp-team-in-2024/10556989/

I believe these situations are only going to be regretted by them if they eventually are not able to perform well in the future. And the thing is nobody knows what will happen in the future. So I believe they should really think about it hard and come up with the decision which they feel is the best. Once they make a decision, they will have to try their best to make sure that it is the best decision that they have made. I do not think Ducati is a bad decision, to be honest. But you never know.
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Unfortunately I can't get hyped about Ferrari's new car so much.  Sad  Because this scenario is repeating itself every season. They are always claiming that they have a totally different car this time and they will be much more successful. But after the season starts we have the same old Ferrari as always. They need to do something for real to look convincing for people to believe in them.

I don't know maybe they can start with replacing their strategists with better ones. Because I'm afraid they have really poor strategists now that I say even I can do this job much better than them.

Leclerc's race engineer is just horrible. They can find a better one for him who really has good communication skills and who knows what he is doing. Sainz has a much better race engineer than Leclerc and I think it isn't fair.

Yep, this is F1.
When a team has a dominating car, they will keep winning utile the FIA changes the rules.
It has been always like that.

I can't remember a single time when a winning team lost the title without a change in the regulations.
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Ferrari announced a new car for 2024.

It will be not a progression of the 2023 car as usually happens.

It will be a new brand project.

Unfortunately I can't get hyped about Ferrari's new car so much.  Sad  Because this scenario is repeating itself every season. They are always claiming that they have a totally different car this time and they will be much more successful. But after the season starts we have the same old Ferrari as always. They need to do something for real to look convincing for people to believe in them.

I don't know maybe they can start with replacing their strategists with better ones. Because I'm afraid they have really poor strategists now that I say even I can do this job much better than them.

Leclerc's race engineer is just horrible. They can find a better one for him who really has good communication skills and who knows what he is doing. Sainz has a much better race engineer than Leclerc and I think it isn't fair.
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It turns out that the VR46 team is currently experiencing a very big dilemma in making a decision regarding extending the contract with which manufacturer after 2024. Because they also received offers from several other manufacturers such as Yamaha, but they also still have to consider Ducati motorbikes because in general motorbikes Ducati has more energy to use in competition so there is a dilemma on their part when they want to make new decisions after next season.
Source: https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/the-big-dilemma-facing-valentino-rossis-motogp-team-in-2024/10556989/
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