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Wow, I was not expecting Pedrosa racing Shocked.

I didn't follow what was happening but I saw the race and he ended 4th, very close to the podium!

Pedrosa is a very good rider, but you have to admit that he already had a prototype bike and also because Misano is an official test track he knows this track better than anyone else, but still a very remarkable achievement that he can still physically keep up with the top.

KTM made a very good move when they got Pedrosa as a test rider, I don't think KTM would be where they are now without Pedrosa.
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Even though Marco Bezzecchi had a very good chance of getting past Jorge Martín when Bezzecchi was able to get past Pecco Bagnaia. And yes, Marco Bezzecchi's mistake was going wide when overtaking Bagnaia. As if I couldn't believe it, I tried to wait in the highlights to see how Bezzecchi in that corner could go wide.
But I am satisfied with the performance of this VR46 rider on the San Marino circuit.
The VR46 team itself was also very satisfied with the results they achieved with their flagship rider Marco Bezzecchi even though they were only on the second podium. And the next race for MotoGP will be in India where there are still several complaints that need to be fixed before the race and hopefully there will also be quite a fierce battle for the front row, especially for riders at the top of the standings.

however, this good result did not make him intend to return to the circuit, because he had retired and he had no intention at all. and moreover he enjoyed being wildcards more than permanent racer.
Dani Pedrosa is very aware that he is no longer young so his decision not to return as a regular racer for a team is quite wise. Because he is very comfortable enjoying his salary as a test rider and that doesn't make it a burden for him to continue to make KTM more competitive every season.
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Anyway here's the schedule.  And honestly not too excited for this one.

I liked it Tongue
It's cool that the Singapore GP will have controversial news... very divergent opinions.
With the end of a sequence of curves in this last section, the lap became shorter and also faster. I believe that both teams and drivers also liked it because it considerably reduces the demands on tires and brakes.

Remembering that the changes were not just on the track.... in addition to the changes in the curves, a grandstand in the sector was also removed, to the sadness of the fans, I still don't understand exactly what they are going to do on that ground.... some type of work will be done erected?
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^  Yup and I'm pretty sure the sports betting sites are also pretty sure that Verstappen won't make any mistakes again.  Cheesy  They have him lined at 1.26 to win the race. 


This race is a bit more risky with close walls but should be another easy win.

They are using a new layout for the track, it will be shorter with a longer straight, maybe more overtakes will be there.
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^  Yup and I'm pretty sure the sports betting sites are also pretty sure that Verstappen won't make any mistakes again.  Cheesy  They have him lined at 1.26 to win the race. 

Anyway here's the schedule.  And honestly not too excited for this one.

2023 F1 Singapore GP Schedule
Track:  Marina Bay Street Circuit, Singapore



Sept 15, Friday:  Practice 1  17:30 - 18:30
Sept 15, Friday:  Practice 2  21:00 - 22:00
Sept 16, Saturday:  Practice 3  17:30 - 18:30
Sept 16, Saturday:  Qualifying  21:00 - 22:00
Sept 17, Sunday:  Race  20:00

If I were to make a bet I'd prolly go for Leclerc to finish in the podium at 3.95 if there isn't any penalties.  He's prolly going to be all fired up after finishing behind his team mate in Italy.  Cheesy
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We have entered a new race week in Formula 1 as well. This time we are going to watch Singapore GP. The last race here in 2022 was really like a nightmare for Verstappen. There was rain and Verstappen was able to finish only at the 7th position. Rain is expected again in Singapore this week so it can be a pretty interesting race.  Grin

Pretty sure Verstappen already learned his lesson on the last Singapore GP. He'd take things slow and get the necessary tires before unleashing the fury of his car. One of the reasons he placed badly on Singapore GP last year is because he didn't change tires soon enough, thinking that he can get a comfortable lead before going to the pits. Hopefully that won't happen especially now that rain is forecasted over Singapore.

@dothebeats I’m pretty sure that Max has learnt his lessons and currently he’s having a nearly perfect season hence I don’t expect him to repeat the same mistakes that he did last year. Lastly even with the rains predictions I yet feel that Max will comfortably win this race too but I’m also hoping that other drivers offer some fight at least otherwise this race too shall get boring to watch pretty quickly.
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We have entered a new race week in Formula 1 as well. This time we are going to watch Singapore GP. The last race here in 2022 was really like a nightmare for Verstappen. There was rain and Verstappen was able to finish only at the 7th position. Rain is expected again in Singapore this week so it can be a pretty interesting race.  Grin

Can't wait for the Singapore GP and see how the drivers compete for P1. Plus, the weather which is predicted to rain will make this GP even more challenging for the drivers. Even though many people predict that Max will be in P1, we must not ignore other variables which could make Max fail to get that position.
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We have entered a new race week in Formula 1 as well. This time we are going to watch Singapore GP. The last race here in 2022 was really like a nightmare for Verstappen. There was rain and Verstappen was able to finish only at the 7th position. Rain is expected again in Singapore this week so it can be a pretty interesting race.  Grin

Pretty sure Verstappen already learned his lesson on the last Singapore GP. He'd take things slow and get the necessary tires before unleashing the fury of his car. One of the reasons he placed badly on Singapore GP last year is because he didn't change tires soon enough, thinking that he can get a comfortable lead before going to the pits. Hopefully that won't happen especially now that rain is forecasted over Singapore.
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By the way I don't follow MotoGP often but I wanted to watch Bagnaia's first race after the incident happened previously. Despite a bike ran over his leg he was still amazing in his next race. He finished on podium which really deserved to be appreciated in my opinion. He is a really ambitious rider.



We have entered a new race week in Formula 1 as well. This time we are going to watch Singapore GP. The last race here in 2022 was really like a nightmare for Verstappen. There was rain and Verstappen was able to finish only at the 7th position. Rain is expected again in Singapore this week so it can be a pretty interesting race.  Grin
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Another 4th spot for Pedrosa today with a solid race.
What if his desire to compete has been reborn with these 2 good results?

I mean he beat his teammate and the official driver of the team in both days, he knows he can still compete to win.

Despite the age he showed that he has a true passion for Moto racing and I think most likely his passion has been reignited regarding such races.He just need a good bike and maybe it is the time he wins this so desired MotoGp Championship which he has never won unfortunately.Maybe if he is offered a good ride at Ducatti,one of the Ducatti teams he can perform even better and fight for the Championship.Let's see what he decides to do for the remaining part of the season and if he would be happy to be racing again here.
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Another 4th spot for Pedrosa today with a solid race.
What if his desire to compete has been reborn with these 2 good results?

I mean he beat his teammate and the official driver of the team in both days, he knows he can still compete to win.

no one expected that pedrosa, who was a wild card, could have above average performance. pedrosa with his performance proves that ktm has a good motorbike and combined with his experience it will make him a competitive racer - in fact it almost took him to the podium.

however, this good result did not make him intend to return to the circuit, because he had retired and he had no intention at all. and moreover he enjoyed being wildcards more than permanent racer.
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Another 4th spot for Pedrosa today with a solid race.
What if his desire to compete has been reborn with these 2 good results?

I mean he beat his teammate and the official driver of the team in both days, he knows he can still compete to win.
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I have a feeling that Marco Bezzecchi will win the race at the Misano circuit.
This is not because Marco Bezzecchi is a rider from Italy who acts as host at the Misano circuit, but because of several other things.
This race could be called a showcase for Italian riders, not Jorge Martin and Francesco Bagnaia, but my hunch is more towards Bezzecchi from what I saw during the sprint race even though Bezzecchi's sprint race results were not champions.
Today Bezzecchi also didn't win because he was stuck behind Pecco Bagnaia for too long. If he hadn't gone wide when overtaking Pecco Bagnaian, Bezzecchi would have been able to catch up with Jorge Martin who was in front of them. But unfortunately when Bezzecchi was in second place, his laps were no longer many and Jorge Martin was already quite far ahead, making Bezzecchi unable to follow Jorge Martin until the end of the race.
Even though Marco Bezzecchi had a very good chance of getting past Jorge Martín when Bezzecchi was able to get past Pecco Bagnaia. And yes, Marco Bezzecchi's mistake was going wide when overtaking Bagnaia. As if I couldn't believe it, I tried to wait in the highlights to see how Bezzecchi in that corner could go wide.
But I am satisfied with the performance of this VR46 rider on the San Marino circuit.

Another interesting sight in this race is Pedrosa. This senior rider is extraordinary. KTM is very lucky to get this former Repsol Honda racer.
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How old is he now as I remember I was a fan of him back at Honda where he was so many times near winning the Championship and he kept missing it.It is great to see him performing well and since I saw this post here and since I got nothing better to do just half hour from now I am going to see the race of San Marino.
Dani Pedrosa is now 37 years old because he was born on September 29 1985 and will almost be 38 years old soon. Today Dani Pedrosa was also very close to getting a podium because he was able to get close to Pecco Bagnaia who was in third position, this is truly extraordinary for Dani Pedrosa who is no longer young but was still able to achieve such good results through a wild card. Today's podium finishers are no different from yesterday even though today's race was a little more exciting than yesterday.

I have a feeling that Marco Bezzecchi will win the race at the Misano circuit.
This is not because Marco Bezzecchi is a rider from Italy who acts as host at the Misano circuit, but because of several other things.
This race could be called a showcase for Italian riders, not Jorge Martin and Francesco Bagnaia, but my hunch is more towards Bezzecchi from what I saw during the sprint race even though Bezzecchi's sprint race results were not champions.
Today Bezzecchi also didn't win because he was stuck behind Pecco Bagnaia for too long. If he hadn't gone wide when overtaking Pecco Bagnaian, Bezzecchi would have been able to catch up with Jorge Martin who was in front of them. But unfortunately when Bezzecchi was in second place, his laps were no longer many and Jorge Martin was already quite far ahead, making Bezzecchi unable to follow Jorge Martin until the end of the race.
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I have a feeling that Marco Bezzecchi will win the race at the Misano circuit.
This is not because Marco Bezzecchi is a rider from Italy who acts as host at the Misano circuit, but because of several other things.
This race could be called a showcase for Italian riders, not Jorge Martin and Francesco Bagnaia, but my hunch is more towards Bezzecchi from what I saw during the sprint race even though Bezzecchi's sprint race results were not champions.
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Wow, I was not expecting Pedrosa racing Shocked.

I didn't follow what was happening but I saw the race and he ended 4th, very close to the podium!

Dani Pedrosa raced very well yesterday and almost came close to the podium on his KTM motorbike, even though he hasn't raced for a long time and yesterday and today he only ran a wildcard slot on the factory KTM team. And yes, it was extraordinary because he was able to finish fourth in the Sprint Race yesterday at a young age, meaning he managed to beat 19 other young riders yesterday in the Sprint Race. Today will probably be even more fierce because the weather conditions are very favorable and the riders at the top of the standings will definitely give everything to win again, especially for Martin, Bezzecchi and Bagnaia who were all on the podium yesterday.

How old is he now as I remember I was a fan of him back at Honda where he was so many times near winning the Championship and he kept missing it.It is great to see him performing well and since I saw this post here and since I got nothing better to do just half hour from now I am going to see the race of San Marino.

This is a great track from what I remember and I am sure is going to be a pretty interesting race,I like more F1 of course but a weekend without racing is boring so going to be happy watching the MotoGP race.
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Wow, I was not expecting Pedrosa racing Shocked.

I didn't follow what was happening but I saw the race and he ended 4th, very close to the podium!

Dani Pedrosa raced very well yesterday and almost came close to the podium on his KTM motorbike, even though he hasn't raced for a long time and yesterday and today he only ran a wildcard slot on the factory KTM team. And yes, it was extraordinary because he was able to finish fourth in the Sprint Race yesterday at a young age, meaning he managed to beat 19 other young riders yesterday in the Sprint Race. Today will probably be even more fierce because the weather conditions are very favorable and the riders at the top of the standings will definitely give everything to win again, especially for Martin, Bezzecchi and Bagnaia who were all on the podium yesterday.
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Wow, I was not expecting Pedrosa racing Shocked.

I didn't follow what was happening but I saw the race and he ended 4th, very close to the podium!
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As expected another easy win for MAx.

Driver of the day, Sainz without any doubt. Today he has been a monster.

Yup...  Is Leclerc just not trying hard to get as much from his car anymore?  I feel like he's starting to fade and just want to get this season over and done with to start anew on 2024.  He says Ferrari promised him a really good car next year.  I think it's a crock of sht as the Ferrari brass just wants him to commit and sign a new long term contract.

But we'll see and I hope I'm wrong.  Seeing RBR winning a lot of podiums again next year would be meh.

Italian GP 2023:  Race Highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd9eALWJRzY

Seeing how Leclerc has performed in the last few races, I quite agree with what you say. Leclerc doesn't look like he's trying any better with the car he drives. He seemed to be trying to play it safe, even though if he could play better he should be able to get a better position. I think if Sainz continues to get unfair treatment from Ferrari, maybe he will leave this team for a better team.

I don't think Sainz has ever received unfair treatment from Ferrari and in fact in this last race his radio message "Guys let's bring this home" was fully supported by the team which told Leclerc soon after,race to the end but let's not risk it.
I think that Leclerc got really nervous by this message and that is why he made those many mistakes which completely consumed his tires during his fight against Sainz,if he was a bit more calm I am pretty confident he would have passed Sainz in the end as Sainz was racing already with the tires gone.

@swogerino Ferrari wants to retain Leclerc why I don’t understand because he’s been a mediocre driver and has done nothing to earn an extension on his current contract. Lastly I agree with you’ll about Sainz and I personally feel that Ferrari should allow him now to take more leads because he’s actually doing well and can deliver unlike Leclerc who’s just not doing enough in my personal opinion.

Ferrari wants to get a hold of Leclerc in a long term contract because he's the only one they got right now.  Imagine if he just left and drove for some other team, and for spitballing's sake let's say Mercedes got him because Hamilton retired.  Who would get the drive?  There are no other drivers worthy out there to take the seat unless the driver's name is Max Verstappen.  And remember, this is Ferrari we're talking about.  They can't just take anybody without considering the marketability and popularity of the driver. 

If they had the chance to sign Verstappen, pretty sure they would get rid of Leclerc in a heart beat.  Lol.  But with Verstappen it's prolly the whole package.  If you get Verstappen, you should also get Horner and Newey just like how they did it with Schumacher, Ross Brawn and the Benetton engineers.
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San Marino MotoGP, Misano - Full Qualifying Results
Pos   Rider   Nat   Team   Time/Diff   Lap   Max
1   Jorge Martin   SPA   Pramac Ducati (GP23)   1'30.390s   7/9   302k
2   Marco Bezzecchi   ITA   Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP22)   +0.397s   8/8   306k
3   Francesco Bagnaia   ITA   Ducati Lenovo (GP23)   +0.436s   8/8   301k
4   Maverick Viñales   SPA   Aprilia Racing (RS-GP23)   +0.526s   7/7   302k
5   Dani Pedrosa   SPA   Red Bull KTM (RC16)   +0.633s   6/8   304k
6   Aleix Espargaro   SPA   Aprilia Racing (RS-GP23)   +0.692s   7/9   301k
7   Brad Binder   RSA   Red Bull KTM (RC16)   +0.713s   7/8   302k
8   Luca Marini   ITA   Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP22)   +0.820s   7/8   299k
9   Marc Marquez   SPA   Repsol Honda (RC213V)   +0.833s   9/9   298k
10   Miguel Oliveira   POR   RNF Aprilia (RS-GP22)   +0.887s   8/8   300k
11   Alex Marquez   SPA   Gresini Ducati (GP22)   +0.888s   8/9   298k
12   Raul Fernandez   SPA   RNF Aprilia (RS-GP22)   +0.951s   8/8   298k

https://www.crash.net/motogp/results/1035411/1/san-marino-motogp-misano-full-qualifying-results

qualifying results, not so bad fo Bagnaia considering what he did the past week
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