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I didn't have any expectation for a Ferrari driver to win the race. Moreover I even thought that the pit crew would find a way to destroy one of their drivers' race. But interestingly Ferrari had a good day this time. Pits were decent thankfully and this was really valuable for them to be on podium finally.

I really appreciated Sainz's defending against Verstappen. For around 15 laps he did a great work about that. If he didn't make an individual mistake on the start straight Verstappen would have had to wait for many more laps to overtake him most probably. Because Sainz was saving a lot of ERS on one hand while Verstappen was using his ERS to overtake him.

Still a good race for Ferrari. I just saw Leclerc quite slower than Sainz in most part of the race. I wonder what the reason was.

And now this time its the 10th. Max may had some trouble at the early stages of the race but then it ended up being something much different. I think its quite obvious that we are going to see Ferrari do a lot better but teams seems to have different levels of improvements all the time. We started with Aston Martin being great, not they aren't, then it was Mercedes, now not so much, then we saw mclaren, now not so much and this race it was Ferrari, lets see how long that goes. All in all I could say that its a fun thing to watch the rest of the pack, people complain about Max being the winner all the time but if you only care about the winner, you miss all that is happening everywhere else.

Crazy crash by Bagnaia, luckily nothing more happened and Binder didn't hurt him anymore, seems like the crash was not too bad. Congratulations to Aprilia though, if I'm not mistaken it was the first ever double win for Aprilia. Very nice.

Totally Leclerc fault at 150% not being able to pass that Sainz with tires already gone,he should have been patient just a bit more and Sainz would have been passed easily,he should have gone for the inside but Sainz asked the team let's bring this home and not risk it effectively asking the team to stop Leclerc.While they did not stop him completely they told him race till the end but don't risk it and this made Leclerc make a lot of errors in the last attempts he made to overtake Sainz which was again as I said totally Leclerc fault despite other circumstances.

Max made history today by winning 10 races which is the only driver in history to have won 10 consecutive races in F1.

Again and again Ferrari came up with quite a bad strategy, they had opportunities but could not have used them better. I'm quite sorry for Leclerc because he has to finish in 4th position, he should be better than that. And yeah Max won this race again easily, like the previous races, and I'm not even surprised by that.

What a f*cking Mess and the stewards here in Monza the same as their Ferrari team completely unprepared as Perez pointed out in the radio message that why they just didn't remove the car of Tsunoda.Now the restart will be in 15.30 and 30 minutes of waiting of course keeps the nerves of the drivers at the verge,let's see who is the more calm of the drivers and who will be more concentrated who will get the most out of it.Personally it brought my nerves to the maximum,the thing I hate most of the FIA is this,they keep extending the restart as much as possible,I don't know why they do that as the track is already clear from quite some time now.

That situation is never clear. Ferrari, which has been disappointing in all races this season, may win this time. If they use their starting positions well, they can dominate the race. We cannot predict when an accident will occur or when something will affect the race. Ferrari did well in qualifying laps. It wouldn't be a surprise if they win the race. After all, the tournament where the same driver always wins the race isn't very exciting. Today we can watch a more exciting race than ever before. At least I hope so.

I highly doubt Ferrari can win a race but as you say it would be a huge achievement for them to be both in the podium.Even this though remains very difficult to achieve as their team has often ruined their races with wrong strategy or being completely unprepared at the pit stop making their drivers lose a lot of race precious time.We all know in normal conditions Redbull is unstoppable and even in the race distance they are the best car on the grid,it will all depend on the first turn,if there is some crash which usually has been in the back of the grid things can change and precipitate right away with Safety Car coming in.

Such a great improvement in lap time by Sainz! I was really fed up with seeing Verstappen dominant everywhere. I was hoping to see some different things in qualifying session at least. Monza is home track for Ferrari so it was important for them to have a decent session. But I think they weren't even confident of themselves to take pole position normally.

I would have expected Leclerc to do better than Sainz but the other way around happened. But when it comes to the race I'm not so hopeful about Ferrari drivers. It is actually due to the team rather than Sainz and Leclerc. But hopefully the team surprise me at least in Italy to have a successful race. Even if they don't get a win being on podium with both drivers would also be a wonderful work.

Yesterday's Catalunya MotoGP Sprint Race was quite fierce with a battle between Ducati and Aprilia where Maverick Vinales himself almost got a second podium even though he had to settle for being in third place because he didn't have time to overtake Bagnaia who was in second place. And in today's WUP session the Aprilia duo also dominated the front row so there is a possibility that Aprilia can win again today because yesterday it was very clear that the Aprilia motorbike had very good balance on the Catalunya circuit. Now I will watch Moto2 first while waiting for the Catalunya MotoGP Race.

Great drive by Sainz but just a thousand of a second faster than Verstappen meaning most likely it will be possible for Redbull to win an easy race tomorrow as we know that in the race distance Redbull makes the difference.Max should be very careful tomorrow to not try and win since the first corner as this can pose a big risk to him,he can risk getting out or crash and that would ruin his try to become the first driver in F1 history to win 10 consecutive races.I am sure though that Max is mature enough to know that and to try at all cost to avoid it,he knows very well with the car he has,he should be patient and soon in the race he can overcome any car.

Pole position for Ferrari.

Whatever. Max will have an easy win if nothing happens to him.

Finally Carlos Sainz makes the pole and confirm what he was doing on freepractice, good to Ferrari to at least catch some fresh air in this new/old crisis they have. The main question right now is, can they maintain this pace on the race? I dont really thing so.

Bad qualy for Mercedes and Aston Martin.

1   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m20.912s
2   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m20.998s
3   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m21.453s
4   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m21.486s
5   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m21.711s
6   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m21.730s
7   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m21.884s
8   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m21.985s
9   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m22.054s
10   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m22.192s
11   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m22.245s
12   Liam Lawson   NZL   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m22.296s
13   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    1m22.297s
14   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m22.302s
15   Logan Sargeant   USA   Williams Racing   1m22.380s
16   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m22.511s
17   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m22.515s
18   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m22.739s
19   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m22.742s
20   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m22.852s


FP3, still ahead but closer RBR now...

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1034793/1/f1-italian-grand-prix-2023-final-practice-results


I was expecting a more competitive Mcleare for this weekend.

All of that is technical work to develop motorbikes to be more competitive, yes of course there are costs involved because this is MotoGP which is a world motorbike race. So it's clear that nothing is free here and we can see from today's Catalunya MotoGP qualifying results that there is only one Japanese motorbike that has qualified for Q2, namely Marc Marquez.

He got that result when towing Jack Miller during Q1 and all the other Japanese motorbikes were outside the top fifteen. Soon there will be a Sprint race in Catalunya and it looks like it will be very exciting because Aprilia is again showing its strength in Catalunya even though Bagnaia succeeded in becoming Pole Position today.

The last practice which finished just now showed that Sainz is in the top spot and Verstappen is just there,maybe we will have a different pole winner here compared to these last races which will not be Verstappen but for the race I have absolutely no doubt,in the race distance is what makes Redbull cars perfect,they keep closing the gap if they are behind and win the race,if I am not mistaken it was in a race like that last year that Verstappen won after starting 14th,I mean the track layout were of high speed straights not that he won here from 14th place.This should keep all of our hopes low as who will win the race but of course surprise events are welcome in a F1 race.

I don't get my hopes up for Ferrari drivers today honestly. Because even though I trust them both I don't have the same feelings for the team.     I think the pit crew or their strategists would find a way to destroy their races. I think that Sainz will be finishing ahead of Leclerc as I have seen him much better in practice sessions so far.

This time McLaren drivers should do better because they have been on the decline for two race weeks. Norris couldn't do better than 7th place in those races. Reaching podium on Monza track would be a good progress for the team again. I expect Norris to be in one of top 3 places in qualifying session once again.

That's right, it's quite strange to see Ferrari at the top, as they usually struggle to maintain their form, but it's great to see their strategy finally succeed. And again Checo finds himself in poor form compared to his team mates, hopefully in FP3 he can improve his performance because in this free practice he raced like a rookie.

2023 F1 Italian Grand Prix - Free Practice Results (1)
Pos    Driver    Nat.   Team    Time
1   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m21.355s
2   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m21.374s
3   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m21.540s
4   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m21.545s
5   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m21.631s
6   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m21.716s
7   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m21.979s
8   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m22.071s
9   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m22.176s
10   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m22.291s
11   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m22.574s
12   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m22.595s
13   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m22.651s
14   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    1m22.696s
15   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m22.716s
16   Logan Sargeant   USA   Williams Racing   1m22.755s
17   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m22.783s
18   Liam Lawson   NZL   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m23.167s
19   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m23.346s
20   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   No Time Se

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1034607/1/f1-italian-grand-prix-2023-friday-practice-results

Second hour results with Ferrari on top, quite strange

Sainz and Perez were both in top 3 in FP1 and FP2 so far. But Free Practice sessions really don't assure anything to us. Things can change a lot as for qualifying. There is no expectation of rain at this race weekend this time. This made me sad a little after watching a lovely competition in Netherlands. 

This is another race Verstappen should be winning comfortably. His car is like perfect now. He doesn't struggle with any kind of big issue this season.

I'm just waiting to see how good the competition will be for the other podium places. I hope to see Norris there again after a break of two races.