Topic: Neo & Bee talk (spam free thread) - page 45. (Read 262043 times)

All this talk of FUD and profits and share manipulation is utter meaningless nonsense.

Neo/Bee problems do not stem from FUD or share price movements, they are in the real world, where they screwed up. The same failure would have occurred without any of the threads or posts on this forum.

You're human. What more do you need? Maybe your posts that twist the circumstances like the mainstream news? Good one, dude/tte.

You make the point exquisitely with the above post.

You can't even address your inability to understand why I invested in Neo & Bee.


Edit: Again, I'm new here and haven't had the time to read through over 200+ pages of posts. I'm trying, but it takes time. What I did was not "absurd" in my book. I was fully prepared for the risk. I've been in the game of bitcoin, investing, money, etc... long enough to understand the implications. Yet, that doesn't negate my right to ask questions and look for answers from the parties that appear to be less than honest. It's offensive that you lump all Neo & Bee investors together and say logic and reason don't work. I'm not arguing that in your experience it didn't, but the broad categorization like that is indicative of a maturing mind, not yet able to make distinctions within large subsets of a population.

Edit2: The point is: bitcoin is amazing/awesome/genius/evolutionary and I'm prepared to flush my life-savings down the fucking toilet if it makes the world a better place for the rest of humanity in the long run (I'm going to do my best to not flush it away, but if that's the roll of the dice, that's the roll). Personal profit is one of the least of my worries.

  PROFIT

TL;DR:
1.  Repeat ad nauseum that I am illogical and offensive.
2.  Provide no substance to back those claims.
3.  
4.   PROFIT.

*I understand that my pointing out the absurdity of what you have done seems mean.  I have tried logic and reason -- those fail with NeoBee investors.  I later realized my folly -- I was trying to *explain* to the rats *why* certain behavior traits were undesirable.  I'm now trying simple Pavlovian conditioning.  

I'm new here, for what it's worth, but your ability to offend and act like an idiot is apparent. You have no friggin' idea why I invested in Neo & Bee. Really. You are illogical. Your statement's so far have been illogical (due to incomplete information) and you act like they're logical without even beginning to take a wise or mature stance on the issue by way of accepting you don't know what you're talking about most of the time (purely by virtue of the universe's mechanisms; that's not a personal slight).

So, in summary ... you don't know why I invested in Neo & Bee (hint: profit was a motive, but the ills of society can be assisted by bitcoin and I'm prepared to take chances on it, even at personal risk, which I'm more than happy to do) and your assertions to the contrary paint you as a pure-bred monkey. Which is ok, because you are a monkey. Highly intelligent, but a monkey nonetheless.

Edit: I agree wholeheartedly that bitcoin doesn't need banks or "banksters." Perhaps I was overzealous in my investment with Neo & Bee. Perhaps I didn't research the company enough, that's definitely a possibility. Though, I know that while sending coin their way, I didn't think of them as a "bank" per se (we can argue that whole other point another day), but something entirely different by virtue of bitcoin - and that's valid in my book.

 wow

@mmeijeri:  If Neo said that along with being a bank, it would also rescue kittens, would that make Neo any less of a bank?

you don't know the size of the expenses.  calling their debt small is pure speculation.  One of the recent news stories said the outstanding debt was huge.

They said they were going to hold funds with multi-sig.

I think it's fair to assume that your driving equate's to "being involved in the bitcoin space in a -more than just basic research or interwebz hype- manner, probably with some vested interest in some projects here or there". If the jumpers equate to anyone who had funds on gox, or, anyone who put coin into neobee and so on as you are clearly alluding to, well...

yes I'm assuming too much, it was not outlined clearly that A=1, B=2, so on. That said, you choose what words in what order to give what meaning, not merely my choice in how I interpret it.


I brought up AM not to discuss the frequency of successful, investable ventures, bitcoin denominated and accessible to bitcointalk et al, but to provide an example of a successful venture that (despite being probably the best investment so far for many, still) -is not perfect-. The inverse of your suicide analogy if there is one is basically, not to fly to the moon with freshly sprouted wings, clearly, but to just -live life-, as in not jump off the bridge, or, -drive cars on a road without crashing-. Fairly mundane really but that's about as good as it gets. My point is that your extreme and boundless critique seems to be primarily fuelled by your enjoyment of the exercise, and that if there was a case that attempted to let you know that things weren't all that bad, like the outlier AM, you will still manage to find it akin to just driving on the road at best, with all the problems that that carries with it.  


anyway I'm getting way off topic

Illogical?  As in giving your money to a bankster WannaBee to fund a bank because you hate banksters?  The most interesting aspect of Bitcoin is it doesn't need banks and banksters to function.  And you are eager to fund a bank because profit. 

What MP lovefest?

Your MP lovefest on twitter shows and it's pretty disgusting display for the casual audience.

Touche. Although, I don't think that's an entirely accurate characterization, but more a twisting of the issue and circumstances. Maybe you know more than I do, but we all work on different and incomplete information - hence, the illogical human. Hence, your illogical snipe at me.

This man right here.
Thank you sir.

We don't have a problem with FUD here, we have a problem with pumpers who'd love to be dumpers, and with messenger shooting.

I would call 1 month unpaid wages and other such small expenses very small debt.

A new owner wouldn't take on a lot of debt, by the contrary. Neo package comes with claim on the frozen Bitfunder IPO funds.

FUD is never based on reason and context, FUD spreads on emotions, and you know that very well.
One can spread FUD when using true or half-true statements.

Very much like what is going on with most of the securities in the world, not just the coinworld.
A small post lookup can help one see that some of the FUDsters around this have spent some time and effort in this work.

I can see users selling shares, tanking the prices and buying them again in buy/sell threads.

FUD was spread, people panicked, they sold, and some wiseguys among us have acquired a shitload of cheap shares in
a project they call a scam.

Now, why would one attack a project, and buy in at the same time...

Priceless.

Does it really matter if MP is talking to himself?  There's ignore buttons for a reason, folks.

You know how to tell if someone isn't MP?  They criticize MP.  MP doesn't criticize himself (though, he'll start, now), because his ego can't handle it.

Regardless, the best way to handle MP is to ignore him, if he annoys you.

Lol