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Quote from: Assface16678 on October 19, 2023, 09:39:43 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on October 18, 2023, 02:46:14 AM

Why not just let kids gamble and observe their results and behavior? Why not make a test first before making decisions like turning off the internet, setting filters, gambling secretly or at night and etc? If they show low interest to gambling then there is little to worry about. If they raise interest to it, then make a serious talk with them about consequences. What if they are one of a billions talented kid that gonna become a next poker champ and you kill that in the bud.

What? I didn't mean to contradict you, but letting kids play and observe? Even kids who don't have an idea or interest in gambling have a phase in their lives where they will be curious about the things they see. Maybe they will not be interested at this time, but what if someday? What if they remember that time when they saw gambling and were curious and wanted to try gambling? I don't know about the mindset you have. Next talent? Even in the statistics, it shows that most of the gamblers experience great losses, or gambling itself doesn't have a very good reputation in terms of means to earn. I'm not against gambling, as I also play gambling. I will disagree with what you said; letting a child have a glimpse of gambling at a young age is not a very good idea, especially if you are a parent. That's all.

I strongly agree with this, letting them observe would give them idea on gambling, so with or without the parent consent, if they saw the same activity, for sure they would be curious and try to participate, which is really bad. Especially if you don't give them knowledge on how gambling works, cause if they explore this area on their own, for sure it could lead to gambling addiction that would have domino affect to their life, like they mental and physical health. Passing your talents which is related is like a dumb thing to do, even you as an adult knows the risk and the after effect of gambling, so why involved your children right? It's like the common sense thing to do as a parent, to not introduced bad habits to them, especially if they saw it on their parents, they might think it's normal thing to do.

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Quote from: Assface16678 on October 19, 2023, 09:39:43 AM

I will disagree with what you said; letting a child have a glimpse of gambling at a young age is not a very good idea, especially if you are a parent. That's all.

I will just leave this part. Why, just why this is a bad to let kids just watch? All you people just disagree and say it is bad, but not a single person gave a true reason why it is bad despite common "gambling addiction" reason. I think it is wrong to call every single person that gamble as an addicted, and think that everyone who see others gamble will become addicted. There is no science that proves "watching=getting addicted" that all you here claim to happen.

You say a lot of "what if". But what if not ? You say that they get curious one day. Of course they will. Kids are full of curiosity. And they will get more curious if we hide the fact that we gamble. Of course the kids will one day find out such thing as gambling. Maybe not at 5yo, not at 10yo, maybe even only when they are 18 they will find out what is gambling. My role as a parent to teach. If kids wants to watch - let them watch, I will even explain the rules and everything. If they wants to play - welcome, but with their own money. I am not interested in cheating, or winning all their money. No matter if they win or lose, they will learn their lesson and get experience. It is better that they learn that hard life lesson at early age and make conclusions, than be an adult who cant control themselves, gamble, lose, cry and post that in the internet.

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Quote from: Westinhome on October 19, 2023, 08:45:29 AM

Quote from: len01 on October 18, 2023, 04:26:13 AM

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The gambler who is parents of some kids will understand this situation exactly.Because the will come across the effort after they play in front of the children.Ninety percentage of the kids will follow to play after they seen their parents involvement into the gambling.So due to their innocent in the game,they will loss some money into the gambling.It’s better to learn the game fully before the involvement to the game.But the kids will play the gambling without the sufficient knowledge to the gambling.If the children had adopt the gambling from the education it will affects the kids life who involved to gambling game because of their parents.

I really understand what you are saying and what I am saying is that parents who have gambling activities would be better off avoiding gambling in front their children and also providing knowledge about the dangers of gambling, even if the parent gambler. at least try to free their children from gambling activities when I will be an adult and I think this method will be more effective in providing knowledge about the dangers gambling to our children. so that if one day our child accidentally finds out about our gambling activities, he will not follow our behavior because he already has the basis that gambling is very bad.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on October 18, 2023, 02:46:14 AM

Why not just let kids gamble and observe their results and behavior? Why not make a test first before making decisions like turning off the internet, setting filters, gambling secretly or at night and etc? If they show low interest to gambling then there is little to worry about. If they raise interest to it, then make a serious talk with them about consequences. What if they are one of a billions talented kid that gonna become a next poker champ and you kill that in the bud.

What? I didn't mean to contradict you, but letting kids play and observe? Even kids who don't have an idea or interest in gambling have a phase in their lives where they will be curious about the things they see. Maybe they will not be interested at this time, but what if someday? What if they remember that time when they saw gambling and were curious and wanted to try gambling? I don't know about the mindset you have. Next talent? Even in the statistics, it shows that most of the gamblers experience great losses, or gambling itself doesn't have a very good reputation in terms of means to earn. I'm not against gambling, as I also play gambling. I will disagree with what you said; letting a child have a glimpse of gambling at a young age is not a very good idea, especially if you are a parent. That's all.

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Quote from: Jating on October 19, 2023, 08:44:28 AM

I guess everyone is very different opinion though, it's different if you tell your kids what the consequences are. Just ask the question to your self, did your parent teach you as well the bad side or gambling?

When I was growing up, I'm seeing my father gamble, yes he bet in front of me on horse racing. But he didn't teach me anything. Until when I grow up and take up gambling myself. So yeah he could be the influence in my life, but I never learn anything from him. It is myself who discover gambling and what it can bring to someone and so I will not tell my children about it or even shows that I'm gambling, just saying.

When I was a kid, parents, grandma and grandpa never taught me games on purpose. But, because there was not much things to do (I mean toys and etc), they taught me rules of poker, blackjack and other card games. We gambled just for fun. They never taught me to gamble to earn. I remember we even used coins to make bets. But it we gamble either to have fun, or to kill time. There was never - learn to gamble, and one day you will become rich.

Btw, just remembered that I even got a cartridge for snes with gambling game. I think there were slots, poker, blackjack and roulette. Maybe that is why I am so "different" in this topic Cheesy

Maybe I've had enough gambling in my childhood and now I see no problem to stop when I feel like it is enough and not to turn addicted, as well as I dont understand whole drama between kids and addiction. Kids nowadays spend more money on loot boxes in video games, they have little interest to gambling.

P.S. found that gem Cheesy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z_8jP5V8ec that is the game I've played as a kid.

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Quote from: len01 on October 18, 2023, 04:26:13 AM

this is what I like from some of the replies that when we become parents we will probably have efforts to keep our children away from any gambling activities even though we already have efforts to provide any security on our children cellphones or computers but we as parents must also continue to try to have other efforts such as providing education every day about the dangers of gambling and the bad risks of gambling as if we are indoctrinating our children minds to stay away from and be afraid of any gambling activities and this method is very helpful in keeping our children away from gambling because it is very sad to see minors who have played betting on online gambling sites that will ruin the child future.

The gambler who is parents of some kids will understand this situation exactly.Because the will come across the effort after they play in front of the children.Ninety percentage of the kids will follow to play after they seen their parents involvement into the gambling.So due to their innocent in the game,they will loss some money into the gambling.It’s better to learn the game fully before the involvement to the game.But the kids will play the gambling without the sufficient knowledge to the gambling.If the children had adopt the gambling from the education it will affects the kids life who involved to gambling game because of their parents.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on October 19, 2023, 08:04:25 AM

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on October 18, 2023, 06:37:34 AM

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I believe that parents should not forbid gambling but explain to the child that the price of gambling is very high and they will have to face the loss of what they value. The child should realize that the chances of losing what he already has a little higher than the chances of gaining something. In my opinion, before risking anything you have to learn how to earn and it is really important for children to understand this.

Finally a flash of light in this topic. Instead of hiding, forbidding and banning a parent must teach, show and tell consequences about various things. The rule "I am your parent, I know what is better for your" does not apply anymore in the modern world. We must let the kids have their own life, not to copy ours. I mean how can the understand that gambling is bad (like many here say, even though they wear gambling signatures) and it might raise addiction, if they never saw what it is? It destroys kids vision of the world. Ok, I will never gamble in front of a kid because it is bad, but what should I tell if one day the kid sees me gambling? The kid will either see his parent doing bad thing or will realise that the parent lied to him. Both scenarios are bad.

I guess everyone is very different opinion though, it's different if you tell your kids what the consequences are. Just ask the question to your self, did your parent teach you as well the bad side or gambling?

When I was growing up, I'm seeing my father gamble, yes he bet in front of me on horse racing. But he didn't teach me anything. Until when I grow up and take up gambling myself. So yeah he could be the influence in my life, but I never learn anything from him. It is myself who discover gambling and what it can bring to someone and so I will not tell my children about it or even shows that I'm gambling, just saying.

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Quote from: Natsuu on October 19, 2023, 08:15:44 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on October 18, 2023, 02:46:14 AM

Why not just let kids gamble and observe their results and behavior? Why not make a test first before making decisions like turning off the internet, setting filters, gambling secretly or at night and etc? If they show low interest to gambling then there is little to worry about. If they raise interest to it, then make a serious talk with them about consequences. What if they are one of a billions talented kid that gonna become a next poker champ and you kill that in the bud.

I get where you're coming from, but gambling can be risky for kids because of legal concerns. It's important to strike a balance between freedom and responsibility and guide them through decisions instead of allowing unrestricted access.

That is what parents for, to show, to teach, to explain, to protect. Of course it is easier to say NO and give no explanation why you cant gamble or watch us adults gamble. You cant learn to ride a bicycle without riding it and making conclusion if you like it or it is not for your. Anyway, the kid will eventually find out what gambling is, no matter if adults hide they gamble or not. And it is better that they find out about it from parents than from the street or strangers. So my imho, the sooner we explain what it is the better it would be.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on October 18, 2023, 02:46:14 AM

Why not just let kids gamble and observe their results and behavior? Why not make a test first before making decisions like turning off the internet, setting filters, gambling secretly or at night and etc? If they show low interest to gambling then there is little to worry about. If they raise interest to it, then make a serious talk with them about consequences. What if they are one of a billions talented kid that gonna become a next poker champ and you kill that in the bud.

I get where you're coming from, but gambling can be risky for kids because of legal concerns. It's important to strike a balance between freedom and responsibility and guide them through decisions instead of allowing unrestricted access. I mean, kids cant fully comprehend the long-term consequences of their actions and it can be risky for them to rely on their emotions alone. It would be better if parents educate their children about the risks associated with gambling and do open communication. By having honest conversations about the dangers, parents can help their kids make informed decisions when they are older and better learn now how to do responsible gambling when they reached the right age.

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Quote from: madnessteat on October 18, 2023, 06:55:33 AM

Quote from: Plaguedeath on October 18, 2023, 06:37:34 AM

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I believe that parents should not forbid gambling but explain to the child that the price of gambling is very high and they will have to face the loss of what they value. The child should realize that the chances of losing what he already has a little higher than the chances of gaining something. In my opinion, before risking anything you have to learn how to earn and it is really important for children to understand this.

Finally a flash of light in this topic. Instead of hiding, forbidding and banning a parent must teach, show and tell consequences about various things. The rule "I am your parent, I know what is better for your" does not apply anymore in the modern world. We must let the kids have their own life, not to copy ours. I mean how can the understand that gambling is bad (like many here say, even though they wear gambling signatures) and it might raise addiction, if they never saw what it is? It destroys kids vision of the world. Ok, I will never gamble in front of a kid because it is bad, but what should I tell if one day the kid sees me gambling? The kid will either see his parent doing bad thing or will realise that the parent lied to him. Both scenarios are bad.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on October 18, 2023, 10:00:34 AM

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During the pandemic, schoolchildren and students in many countries switched to distance education. Without the Internet, not only would they not be able to connect to online lectures, they would not be able to receive assignments. In today's world, everyone should have access to the Internet. Also, if you think children are so limited in information that they only get it from their parents and teachers, you are wrong. Kids know a lot more now than we did at their age.

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Quote from: maydna on October 18, 2023, 07:06:14 AM

But if there is no internet, children cannot do the online assignments their teachers give. This is a dilemma bute it all depends on how parents can educate their children well. And today's children watch YouTube more often, and many things are inappropriate for them to watch. As parents, they should be able to filter what they watch for their children so that they don't see inappropriate things.

We don't know what the future holds for our children, but at least by setting clear boundaries about what they watch and don't, we can make them understand it. And if they are adults, they can filter what they watch for themselves and won't make the wrong choice.

I agree with this. But in contrast to your statement that without internet the children cannot do their homework, well, they can. Only if there's an accessible public library in the area where they reside. They can use the books for free if their city has one and permits so. Although it will be such a shame if it has none because not everytime we have internet to rely on and not everyone is privileged enough to have gadgets and net connection. But that's another story. Going back, children can use internet as long as they will be carefully supervised by their parents or guardian.

It is the duty of the parents to monitor their children's reach on the Internet because they should be the role model of their own kin. Blocking certain websites such as those with explicit contents and gambling contents can help, to avoid the kids being involved at a young age in gambling.

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Quote from: benalexis12 on October 18, 2023, 01:04:41 AM

In fact, you have a point in what you said: if there is no internet, there is no reason for children to be curious about online gambling, even if they only get a glimpse of it. It's just that in this day and age, it seems that the child is used to watching YouTube; maybe don't show the child if you are playing gambling online.

And if we think that it is possible for children to understand at least a little bit, let them understand at least what gambling causes when they do or try it, and forbid children from gambling.

But if there is no internet, children cannot do the online assignments their teachers give. This is a dilemma bute it all depends on how parents can educate their children well. And today's children watch YouTube more often, and many things are inappropriate for them to watch. As parents, they should be able to filter what they watch for their children so that they don't see inappropriate things.

We don't know what the future holds for our children, but at least by setting clear boundaries about what they watch and don't, we can make them understand it. And if they are adults, they can filter what they watch for themselves and won't make the wrong choice.

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on October 18, 2023, 06:37:34 AM

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I believe that parents should not forbid gambling but explain to the child that the price of gambling is very high and they will have to face the loss of what they value. The child should realize that the chances of losing what he already has a little higher than the chances of gaining something. In my opinion, before risking anything you have to learn how to earn and it is really important for children to understand this.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on October 18, 2023, 02:46:14 AM

Why not just let kids gamble and observe their results and behavior? Why not make a test first before making decisions like turning off the internet, setting filters, gambling secretly or at night and etc? If they show low interest to gambling then there is little to worry about. If they raise interest to it, then make a serious talk with them about consequences. What if they are one of a billions talented kid that gonna become a next poker champ and you kill that in the bud.

Yep, almost all parents in this world will teach every good deeds and force their kids to stay away against anything that they feels not good for their kids. They forgot if the more strict is the parent, it will make their kids to try anything that their parents forbid it because of they have a high curiosity.

Even there are kids that used to agree with everything of their parents forbid, they will become a weak people because they can't adapt with other people or low motivation to survive in this world.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on October 18, 2023, 12:51:12 AM

Quote from: JahriMeayer on October 17, 2023, 05:30:04 PM

You have valid point. but there is something i would like to share. Do you know any kid who don't like game? Nope. Games are the most favorite entertainment for kids. And as a parents, you do something in front of your kids, he/she will start practicing the same thing and so for games. Now come to the point. If you are playing normal game for fun then no problem. But if you are playing game like gambling with money, then you can't hand over to them if they wish. So it is better not play any game in front of them that you don't want them to play. Only show them those game, what are good and entertaining to them with no problem. It is really need to have a healthy environment while kids are growing up

Yes you are right that there is no child who doesn't like games and all children from all walks of life are definitely very happy with game especially new game that they have never tried.
But that not the concept because this is gambling game and it is not recommended to tell or show gambling games to children.

Indeed if it is just game for fun it can be considered normal but in gambling I think we also aim to have fun so don't think that showing games to children even if it is just game for fun can be treated freely.
Moreover child has an attitude that tends to be curious about all kinds of new things especially games and when a child starts playing whether it just game on cellphone it will give them a habitual effect so that they might potentially look for new games next time.

Rather than showing game it is better to provide education and also teach real game that can hone a child skills and brain performance.

Sure thing. Unquestionably, kids are naturally interested and drawn to games. However, it is completely careless to introduce them to any kind of gaming, even if it is done in the name of fun. The exposure has a chain reaction that cant be ignored; its not just about whats happening now, but also what will happen in the future. A game that doesnt seem dangerous today could lead to a bad habit tomorrow. Its not just gaming either; its about how the brain changes when you're young, the dopamine hits, and the need for more.

Whenever we talk about games and kids, the goal should always be to teach and grow. Why subject them to possible dangers when there are so many fun things they can do that will also help them learn? Not between fun and learning, but about having fun in a way that adds value. We need to show them the right way, which means making decisions that will be best for them in the long run.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on October 18, 2023, 12:02:03 AM

Limiting the information your kids can access to is no longer possible thanks to the internet, and even if you could set filters on your computers and smartphones there is no guarantee the computers of other kids will have the same filters.

So while we must not encourage kids to gamble, it is also important to not close our eyes, as we need to talk to them about gambling and the negative effects it could have in their lives if they begin to engage on this activity at such an early age.

this is what I like from some of the replies that when we become parents we will probably have efforts to keep our children away from any gambling activities even though we already have efforts to provide any security on our children cellphones or computers but we as parents must also continue to try to have other efforts such as providing education every day about the dangers of gambling and the bad risks of gambling as if we are indoctrinating our children minds to stay away from and be afraid of any gambling activities and this method is very helpful in keeping our children away from gambling because it is very sad to see minors who have played betting on online gambling sites that will ruin the child future.

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Why not just let kids gamble and observe their results and behavior? Why not make a test first before making decisions like turning off the internet, setting filters, gambling secretly or at night and etc? If they show low interest to gambling then there is little to worry about. If they raise interest to it, then make a serious talk with them about consequences. What if they are one of a billions talented kid that gonna become a next poker champ and you kill that in the bud.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on October 18, 2023, 12:02:03 AM

Quote from: JahriMeayer on October 17, 2023, 05:30:04 PM

You have valid point. but there is something i would like to share. Do you know any kid who don't like game? Nope. Games are the most favorite entertainment for kids. And as a parents, you do something in front of your kids, he/she will start practicing the same thing and so for games. Now come to the point. If you are playing normal game for fun then no problem. But if you are playing game like gambling with money, then you can't hand over to them if they wish. So it is better not play any game in front of them that you don't want them to play. Only show them those game, what are good and entertaining to them with no problem. It is really need to have a healthy environment while kids are growing up

Limiting the information your kids can access to is no longer possible thanks to the internet, and even if you could set filters on your computers and smartphones there is no guarantee the computers of other kids will have the same filters.

So while we must not encourage kids to gamble, it is also important to not close our eyes, as we need to talk to them about gambling and the negative effects it could have in their lives if they begin to engage on this activity at such an early age.

In fact, you have a point in what you said: if there is no internet, there is no reason for children to be curious about online gambling, even if they only get a glimpse of it. It's just that in this day and age, it seems that the child is used to watching YouTube; maybe don't show the child if you are playing gambling online.

And if we think that it is possible for children to understand at least a little bit, let them understand at least what gambling causes when they do or try it, and forbid children from gambling.

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Quote from: JahriMeayer on October 17, 2023, 05:30:04 PM

You have valid point. but there is something i would like to share. Do you know any kid who don't like game? Nope. Games are the most favorite entertainment for kids. And as a parents, you do something in front of your kids, he/she will start practicing the same thing and so for games. Now come to the point. If you are playing normal game for fun then no problem. But if you are playing game like gambling with money, then you can't hand over to them if they wish. So it is better not play any game in front of them that you don't want them to play. Only show them those game, what are good and entertaining to them with no problem. It is really need to have a healthy environment while kids are growing up

Yes you are right that there is no child who doesn't like games and all children from all walks of life are definitely very happy with game especially new game that they have never tried.
But that not the concept because this is gambling game and it is not recommended to tell or show gambling games to children.

Indeed if it is just game for fun it can be considered normal but in gambling I think we also aim to have fun so don't think that showing games to children even if it is just game for fun can be treated freely.
Moreover child has an attitude that tends to be curious about all kinds of new things especially games and when a child starts playing whether it just game on cellphone it will give them a habitual effect so that they might potentially look for new games next time.

Rather than showing game it is better to provide education and also teach real game that can hone a child skills and brain performance.

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