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Topic: New Drama from BitcoinASIC - page 13. (Read 21843 times)

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legendary
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February 01, 2013, 09:19:39 AM
#31
Sure their first post is "unprofessional", but they're not asking you to send millions of dollars before there's any proof the hardware exists...
full member
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February 01, 2013, 08:54:57 AM
#30
Sorry.... time to call for a SCAMMER tag.

https://www.bitcoinasic.net

"Once the video has been shot we have decided to ship the device to conman who in my opinion develops the best Bitcoin mining software available."

so the "WE" becomes "my"

" We are in. the bASIC is officially DEAD."

on a website that continually mentions "BASIC"

hero member
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February 01, 2013, 08:43:18 AM
#29
Sadly new people to bitcoin and/or the scene may accidentally pre-order from that piece of shit site.

Anything / Everything bASIC and Tom need to be labeled as scams/scammer..

Speaking of Drunk "ComproTom", a couple classics:

http://imageshack.us/a/img687/9982/tom22jansummary.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img42/4645/tom22janbasicrefundthre.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img163/2263/tom22janavalonthread.png

legendary
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February 01, 2013, 08:25:51 AM
#28
bASIC is dead! End of story. No viable entity worth their salt would touch this with a barge-pole.

Well, I'm not so sure about this. If bASIC had a viable (albeit poorly run) strategy before and basic chip processes nailed down, I don't see why another company couldn't come in, take over, and clean up the mess left over.

However, the keyboard vomit that is that wall of text isn't indicative of a "professional company" coming in...at least none that I've ever seen. It looks like some kid on Adderall sat down and started trying to type something convincing.

I am curious to see how this plays out, even though they're not getting any business from me.
full member
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February 01, 2013, 05:26:46 AM
#27
Kinda looks like Tom or comproTom (aka drunk Tom, the supposedly compromised account that stirred up some drama recently).
sr. member
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legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
February 01, 2013, 02:48:38 AM
#25
Not that I believe this is legitimate, but many business managers and technical engineering types actually don't have great spelling/grammar/etc (or don't care).  Some of the emails I received from those sorts were worse than this even was.  Just something to think about...

Possibly, but to put up a wall of text on an official website, coupled with having it improperly formatted on the page doesn't look like something some self-professed professional should do if they want to be taken seriously. Atlas, off his medication, could have done better.
legendary
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Beyond Imagination
February 01, 2013, 02:27:00 AM
#24
I just wonder when will AMD join the game...  Their stock performance is miserable, this might be the chance to turn the tide for the company, they could easily produce the most advanced ASIC devices using their 40nm process and very mature cooling solution, then we will back to the old gpu mining era  Grin Grin

Like, 0.1% of their GPU sales are for mining. The market isn't big enough for AMD ASIC yet.

I guess many of their high end GPU were bought to mine coins. This day is not far away if BTC price rise enough high, making ASIC devices are much eaiser than graphic cards, they need only a small project setup, and their 32nm process is already mature
sr. member
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February 01, 2013, 02:23:25 AM
#23
fake or not I would feel a lot better ordering a product from a company that can tell you this:

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you will see a youtube video of this device hashing along before we ever ask for one red cent from the community

but until then I guess we have to pass the bill in order to see whats in it.. err or wait that's something else.
legendary
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February 01, 2013, 02:20:54 AM
#22
Not that I believe this is legitimate, but many business managers and technical engineering types actually don't have great spelling/grammar/etc (or don't care).  Some of the emails I received from those sorts were worse than this even was.  Just something to think about...
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legendary
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Ruu \o/
February 01, 2013, 02:17:05 AM
#21
Copy/pasta:

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Once the video has been shot we have decided to ship the device to conman who in my opinion develops the best Bitcoin mining software available. Please check back for more updates.
Well it's nice they decided to use me as their primary software developer if something ever goes ahead... but given conman is my IRC nickname and it holds certain "connotations", it would probably have been better to use my real name  Wink
legendary
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February 01, 2013, 01:48:31 AM
#20
I just wonder when will AMD join the game...  Their stock performance is miserable, this might be the chance to turn the tide for the company, they could easily produce the most advanced ASIC devices using their 40nm process and very mature cooling solution, then we will back to the old gpu mining era  Grin Grin

Like, 0.1% of their GPU sales are for mining. The market isn't big enough for AMD ASIC yet.
legendary
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Beyond Imagination
February 01, 2013, 01:47:17 AM
#19
I just wonder when will AMD join the game...  Their stock performance is miserable, this might be the chance to turn the tide for the company, they could easily produce the most advanced ASIC devices using their 40nm process and very mature cooling solution, then we will back to the old gpu mining era  Grin Grin
legendary
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February 01, 2013, 12:39:52 AM
#18
FYI, I started penning my post above when there were only three replies to this thread, hence reiterating the grammatical aspect already brought to light.

800+ pre-sold my ass! I bet you not one of them has the balls enough to declare that they pre-ordered from the new bASIC if one did exist.

Cablepair in 5... 4... 3...

CP: My website was hacked and I can't get into it. Don't believe a word ever written on it.

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...how these companies like BFL and bASIC can just string their customers along for months and no one comes out with anything better.

Is he dissing the company he just took over?
legendary
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February 01, 2013, 12:34:00 AM
#17
Wall of text with no line breaks. Poor html hack together. Spelling errors. Grammar errors. Bashing the competition. Totally vague about who they really are. Claiming Tom is permanently out. Claiming they can throw together a FPGA hardcopy with Tom's 4x4=16 chip board (adapted to a 5x5=25 chip board, I'm assuming?), and be shipping "Before BFL", which I take to mean March '13. 30 days. Really?

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The sheer unprofessionalism of the supossid leaders in this industry is down right appaling talking about Bitcoin in general it's mind boggling - how these companies like BFL and bASIC can just string their customers along for months and no one comes out with anything better.

Either Tom got drunk again, and started posting shit, or bASIC is screwed worse than they were before.
"Before BFL" is used figuratively. It means, "before the heat death of the universe".
legendary
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February 01, 2013, 12:31:30 AM
#16
Wall of text with no line breaks. Poor html hack together. Spelling errors. Grammar errors. Bashing the competition. Totally vague about who they really are. Claiming Tom is permanently out. Claiming they can throw together a FPGA hardcopy with Tom's 4x4=16 chip board (adapted to a 5x5=25 chip board, I'm assuming?), and be shipping "Before BFL", which I take to mean March '13. 30 days. Really?

My favorite part:
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The sheer unprofessionalism of the supossid leaders in this industry is down right appaling talking about Bitcoin in general it's mind boggling - how these companies like BFL and bASIC can just string their customers along for months and no one comes out with anything better.

Either Tom got drunk again, and started posting shit, or bASIC is screwed worse than they were before.
legendary
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February 01, 2013, 12:30:10 AM
#15
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UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT - "Tom" or "Dave" is no longer affiliated with this company in anyway.

hint one: Tom/Dave must be the same person or it would have read: Tom and Dave are no longer...

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We plan to show full video proof before we take 1 single order and unlike some competitors these shipments willl be coming from the USA and will include USPS tracking numbers (DHL for international customer)

great so far. holding off till they actually have a product. that way they can plan batch allotments and know how many pre-orders through before closing that batch.

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Now for the hard truth We have strong reason to believe that BFL has been stringing you along all this time beause it needed your money to cover their R&D / NRE costs, its quite likely they are even using Pre-sale orders to pay their employees saleries which i am not sure of US law but is illegal in Canada. BEWARE OF BFL. ITS ALL LIES.

although i agree with the statement from a professional business point of view. making public statements based on opinion is grey area libal.. becareful.. dont getting a "slagging match" reducing your professionalism. try critisism with a flare of elegance and subtle meaning.  
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Yes Finally! Avalon comes out with the first ASIC device but how many will we actually see in customers hands by months end.
300 if you include the next few days, they should arrive before the weekend from all announcements and whispers

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The sheer unprofessionalism of the supossid leaders in this industry is down right appaling talking about Bitcoin in general it's mind boggling - how these companies like BFL and bASIC can just string their customers along for months and no one comes out with anything better.

now this is the point i start to think, hang on. you have slated another company.. and have many grammar inaccuracies..
the professionalism is starting to evaporate.
i myself dont write for my business the same way i would as i would on forums, so my bad grammar is acceptable to me here, but not on a business announcement.

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My company has been developing custom ASIC and FPGA based solutions for decades we work in the military and telecommunications sectors and can accomplish this task at ease.
company name? details?

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We currently have a full functioning and hashing prototype which we plan to bring to production next week. We understand time critical solutions and it is our specialty.

wow u invented a ASIC and in under a week you will start taking pre-orders. WOW amazing.. pfft

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Instead of a full Standard CELL ASIC whch takes AGES to complete low success rates and extremey high NRE we are using FPGA hard copies of what is probably the best FPGA Bitcoin mining core in history (no it is not open source sorry ).

so throwing existent FPGA chips into a big box all wired together. basically.. just a shame your decades of knowledge and equipment you should already have and not need to purchase due to your military ASIC projects can't produce a chip on the cheap. but at least you have half explained yourself out of how you will suddenly be able to start begging for cash in a few weeks

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Our ASIC chips
cough FPGA cough

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can mine at over 2 gh/s comfortably and at a very low clock, which will ensure excellent heat disapation as well as chip longetivity. The inexpensive nature of the manufacturer of these chips will allow us to build machines that will use a large number of cheap chips and still keep electrical rates down to a reasonable level. These will be fully enclosed devices, not as cleaver as as our friends at Avalon with their stand alone wifi devices but they will include 25 FPGA hard copy ASICS
which will use a maximum of 200watts per device.

now im thinking you have no idea the difference between an ASIC and a FPGA but 25 chips at 2Ghash thats atleast something worth noting.. 50Ghash product

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They will however require a host computer. The best part of our device is the speed at which we can develop them. We have a fully functional PCB fab and electronics assembly as well as a fully functional SHIPPING DEPARTMENT in house and we have already begun this process. I know it's a bit late in the game to introduce a product such as this but we wanted our news to get out there in the main stream. Tom is out. We are in. the bASIC is officially DEAD. Get ready for a 50Gh/s ASIC Based device shipping from the US with tracking and no none sense. There will be no deadline back outs and no B.S. We purchased this company from Tom for many reasons but the main reason is his un revealed completed design that can easily be converted to support 25 hard copy ASICS. The hardest work for us is already completed ,

so from seeing Toms 'secret recipe' to already having a prototype.. that is quick

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Believe it or not, this IS happening and like I said before you will see a youtube video of this device hashing along before we ever ask for one red cent from the community. We cannot give an exact date at this time but It would not surprise me in the slightest that our first device ships before BFL. Professionals have taken this over and professionalism which is long over due in this industry will make all the difference.

could have started your professionalism with a better pre-drafted out announcement.

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Please watch our you tube channel (coming soon) for a video of the device hashing by next week at the latest. Once the video has been shot we have decided to ship the device to conman who in my opinion develops the best Bitcoin mining software available. Please check back for more updates.

too many holes.. im going to hold out till batch 2 Cheesy and even worse spelling, grammar and paragraph layout then me.. and that's saying something
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February 01, 2013, 12:14:29 AM
#14
The best is at the bottom:

Pre-order today 800+ already have.

There should be a button beside that which say: Refund your order today!  800+ already have.
newbie
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February 01, 2013, 12:14:23 AM
#13
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Professional, my fuckin' ass!
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I should forward you some email from my last general manager.  This was positively lucid in comparison.
legendary
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February 01, 2013, 12:13:56 AM
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