Topic: New Lending Platform BitLend.io - page 7. (Read 26316 times)

Depends what profit means, sensible information like financial status or copies of all documents could be much more worth.

Better be late then never, welcome

And Paul was asking if there are any fruits of his animations (I can't mess with him, especially on how genious simple he can paint an owl, he is better than the guy who painted Mark Zuckerberg, beside his bullywood story qualities, he is an artist)

I'll keep getting all this with joke, maybe this/their band can tell them a message about involving GAW staff?

I think this response  on the GAW/GArza thread about the situation being discussed in this thread needs to be here.


How many Millions of Dollars worth of claims are rolled up in the GAWsuit? $5ish? That's a lot of Ferraris.

LOL, ninja'd me on my "wordo" fix!

THANKS!  But not nearly as brave & noble as your art work!     (and research.)

That sir, was as noble and brave a statement as I have ever heard.

You guys are really seeing the light!

I avoided BCT for many months b/c of all the meaningless personal / ad hominem attacks.

I really wish I had hung in there, though.

I drank the Paycoin Kool-aid & I could have saved myself months of agony if I had the guts to read between the bullies' lines to get the good information....

I am counting on this crowd to break the story first when they slap the cuffs on the Garbanzo Beans.

If you all can take the High Road, there is nothing the XPY Crowd can complain about & use to misdirect the arguments against the current kool-aid junkies.... 

And more wimps like me will get the truth.

Lol he needs to be fatpeoplehate famous too

Somewhere some odd hundreds of pages ago in the Garza thread, Jason Sponaugle asked me to meme him because he "wanted to be famous on Bitcointalk" sic and that is where that Jason/WOWdude meme came from. Took a while, but he is getting a little more famous now.

Scamming won't help you lose weight and avoid the diabetes!

No, no you are right. Let's be more official in this thread. I will even try to use spellchecker just to fit to the needs which you want to keep . I'll be more polite from now on.

Thank you for that, and no worries, not trying to be a prude or issue orders, etc. Trust me on this, I am not a prude and really do not care what anyone says on the intertoobz. But the Bitlend Team is already using this type of thing to distract from the facts of the situation. The guys running Bitlend and the Paycoiner forums are for the most part the very same guys who made HashTalk into an internet Jim Jones Cult based in North Korea (The People's Temple of Paycoin) using weapons like Ad Hominim attacks, misdirection, straw man arguments, etc , so that Josh Garza could make his GAW/ Paycoin fraud operation as large and successful (for him) as it was. I am sure Suchmoon will get a little chuckle seeing me suggest removing the boobies, seeing how he has chided me for being a bit over the top with insults and abrasive language in the GAW/GArza thread .  

P.S: Just saw my "Korfax with a mushroom fountain on his head" pics again- LMAO. Uhhh, hmm. LOL! I'm working on getting a bit less abrasive too....

Just as you wish, fits good to this discussion, fake boobs.

Here is everything connected to gaw, garza, hashtalk, paycointalk, bitlend. Whatever you talk about it's about all of them, however you turn it around.

Is that from one of the Bitlend videos?   If not, I would suggest removing the img blocks for the image of the really bad boobs and maybe just leave the link. These guys will use anything like this to attack us, instead of answering questions. Pure Garza style. I have been cursing less than usual for this reason, as this Bitlend.io story has taken a rather serious turn.

Paul, did you watch the video, aren't glasses of Mr. Dick cool  

I am asking because this video could be almost 1to1 translated with paycoin's history , this is the moment it turns out that boobies are scam

EDIT: can't wait for your answer, the point is, this moment is on beginn of this video  
EDIT2: They could even keep the same band, but the should switch to another song as long as no answers come.

Oh Paul, it was much more, about 1400 posts just to try to understand this kind of people. I must admit, I am not sure that there were many educated people, these are easiest to rip off. Same like for passion of the most famous Nazi, he was great orator and mighty SS was doing the job behind. I know that's too much to compare them with worst that mankind has seen but they work is almost same.

I also must say that I was and still am looking at Adam as the only one who tried something good. Adam responds to every question in very friendly way, at least it was always the case when I contacted him. He was even friendly where I might be too unfriedly. His mistake was to keep community whic Garza build up, and that's community who trust in words "Trust me, I am experienced", we know how it really is, trusting is for fools and in current situation everybody who does not ask is a fool. Adam trusted them, that was second mistake and he is still paying a lot for this, always more and more, keeping trust in same team, that's 3rd mistake. I do not think that I am wrong about Adam, I would say he is the only non crook in this team, maybe he recognised it and drives away from paycoin as like stated before, he was very unlucky in choise of his partners. I wish him the best, he lost most of all GAW investors, that really hurts. That was at least my experience with Adam, show me if I am wrong.

Paul, I am not opinion that people who repeat mistakes should be saved when they do not want to be saved. But mostly your contribution saved for sure many in not investing into something and maybe you saved someone his investment, you do not know, so do not whine about others, be happy that you understand it .

For them paycoin is like gambling, they are addicts to paycoin, same as playing in casino, they need a doc and some very good medicine.

Thank you for the kind words, Boki. I know that you are questioning things that are going on here, there needs to be about 500 more people (those signed up for the GAWsuit) doing the same. I have actually compiled quite a laundry list of things to point out or question about Bitlend and the connections to the GAW / Paycoin fraud schemes. I am picking one or two at a time to work on and hammer home.  

Hmmm  , I think you are not the only one 

Paul honestly, you need to sleep a little bit or you will expose their trousers in couple of days, give them some time to make more mistakes.

BTW: Great post!

Great points, Boki.

Here is something else about this whole mess that stinks so badly it makes my eyes water. Why am I the only one who can smell this stench(edit to add-except yourself )?

Two things I would like to bring up regarding the GAWsuit, Allen Shinners, Joe Mordica, and Adam Matlack.

First: It has recently been revealed (in spite of Adam and Allen trying to hide this) that two of the three leaders of the "GAWsuit", D. Allen Shinners and Adam Matlack, have been in business with one of the principles involved in the GAW/Paycoin frauds , Joe Mordica, in the new Bitlend.io operation. Allen claims that this is fine because Joe Mordica has not been convicted of anything, and also that Joe Mordica is the star witness in the GAWsuit. After all, he actually implemented the fraud schemes from a technical aspect, so he knows exactly what was going on and can finger Josh Garza, right? Problem: Joe Mordica being in business with GAWsuit primary litigants D. Allen Shinners AND Adam Matack makes it simple for the GAW/Garza defense to invalidate or at minimum create doubt about Joe's testimony. Because Joe is in business with BOTH Allen and Adam, it can easily be argued that he has a financial interest in seeing them win the lawsuit, therefore Joe might say or do anything to help them. Likely result: The value of the litigants' star witness has been destroyed and GAWSUIT FAILS! How convenient. Is this intentional? There are 475+ people who need to be taking a long HARD look at what is going on here. If this is not intentional, then it is pure stupidity. Same result for the GAWsuit litigants- likely FAILURE and loss of funds to finance the GAWsuit!!! Wake the fuck up! Question EVERYTHING!

Second: Allen insists that he "knows where Garza has funds located", and that the duo who have already successfully sued GAW/Garza and WON are not going to collect, because they do not know where Garza's money is. He also clearly states repeatedly that he will NOT share ANY information he has to help these two fraud victims  collect on their judgement against GAW/Garza. WTF? Seriously? Great idea, Allen, you are a swell guy, way to "help" the victims of the GAW/Paycoin fraud schemes. I would argue that the only person you are helping is Homero Joshua Garza. So, instead of organizing the GAWsuit in CT, where one successful lawsuit against GAW  is on the record books, or any other place on earth, they are pursuing it from where? Texas, widely known as "The Deadbeat State", due to it's laws restricting the collection of judgements and asset seizure. WTF? Seriously? And I am the only person who is suspicious about this? Two former close associates of Garza conveniently direct the Lawsuit to a state where there is little to no chance of collecting a judgement IF the GAWsuit is somehow successful? Giant Red flag, folks. There needs to be 475 people asking Allen and Adam and Robert(the third primary in the GAWSuit) why they are doing this. NOW! Wake the fuck up! Ask hard questions and DEMAND answers!



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Discuss and comment.

 Also: I am calling on some brave soul(s) to repeat or at minimum link to this post on the Paycoiner forums. Make sure to take screenshots, as the GAW/Paycoin scumbags running those will wipe it very quickly. Good luck.

I think you've forgot to write their responsibilities.

About involvement, it's hard to say for me, even after chatting to them all, I am not sure that everybody of them knows how to officially describe their positions.

Adam was involved in helping them. How far the word "help" reaches, I am not sure. But here are some facts that should be mentioned too.
1. Adam has built up a team from community, he was always stating that community should decide.
2. Not surprising, but community has choosen same crooks for moderating, same like on hashtalk. On this point I see some contraversy in communty overtake which is runned by same people that had control before?
3. Adam has his own project xpy.io, where same people are involved. Example is Richard Nelson (aka CeForce) on their forum. He is the responsible one for support on xpy.io and on bitlend.io . At the same time he is Mod on their payscamtalk where he was the one who suggested.
4. Same people have direct access to all sensible data, like verification data on xpy.io or bitlend.io
5. Their team is even on Slack involved, for a question about any involvement of GAW staff (Joe), they tried to troll me out and Mr. Nelson suggested a ban of me, this is whole discussio which was accepted by all responsible members on this vote:

tvle83, masteryoshigr, coinfairy and boxhock agreed. Which means everybody did agree on all these points. @Paul, do you really expect an answer from such clever guys?
6. Adam drives away from crypto, Allen is the one everybody listens to (obviously he is not lucky in a choise of his partners and friends, maybe it's better for him to quit).
7. Almost everybody of their staff owns at least one prime controller, just as example: CeForce, Krumz, yoshi, ...
Yellow one is involved into bitlend.io


8. Allen business ability is 0. There is nobody who controls this team or even who could lead a company an hold on all responsibilities an leading position brings with itself.
9. Whole team together went illegal way. They missuse customer confidential information.
10. SUGGESTION FOR DOXXING CAME FROM MOD STORMY, his name is David Adkins.
11. Nobody of them wanted even to answer a question about Joe's involvement, and nobody was rough or rude to them when this question was raised. I mean, even Paul could not believe that Allen is such a crook.
12. They did not state that they might share customer data, which is not legal and nobody has ever approved such movement. It's illegal, and there have been very big companies which had consquences because of simple data sharing. This point is very heavy, expecially after Dr. Dick Allen doxxed me in posting confidential information, during the launch phase of bitlend.io. Looks like him, or Paul?

Do not expect very clever answer from Mr. Dick

13. Point 12. proves that all people involved are not able to run legit business and probably stupidity is their excuse.
14. Point 13 shows that they will not be able to answer all questions. Starting with who owns/runs bitlend.io to the point where Allen and Adam should explain us why same people have access to confidential data which they use for doxxing a user for just asking about Joe's involvement. This is criminal activity.
15. Their criminal activity risks the lawsuit where 400+ people are involved and Allen will ask them soon for money. What should do these who want to quit because of all what is going on, how they now be sure that they will not be doxxed or even something worse.
16. Authorities and media have to be contacted regarding this question. I am unsure how the judge will like these facts and so many conflicts of interest. All this will end in even longer lawsuit which could cost much, much more without any security that money will be gotten back.
17. Couple of them have most coins, MK is top holder, that's why he is involved, as they always ask him too.
18. They all use haasbot on cryptsy for price manipulation, there is no trading volume.


There are much more points, just tired to write about some of these criminals, let's see what else Paul will find out

Fact is that all companies are involved with GAW in direct or non direct way, there is massive interest of conflict. These who are not in direct way involved, they are still supporting these who are directly connected.

As for a question who is involved, answer is simple, everybody of their teams. Some in different way, but still involved.