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legendary
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July 28, 2014, 06:12:33 PM
Thanks Smiley one of the early Cannon Power Shots I got a couple years ago. Damn versatile and fairly inexpensive.
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July 28, 2014, 06:08:21 PM
legendary
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July 28, 2014, 05:39:55 PM
Alright,

Can we gear the conversation in a direction which may actually help us get the 1u/2u's out the door. Please, if you're willing elaborate on  your experience with server PSU's,  like the HP 403781-001 DL380 G5  vs 2x ESP129 HP 550 Watt .  Like lets discuss server psu's, connectors and the best way you guys would solve an attempt at a universal design for a box for A1/A2/BE200:

The below cases have been developed and ran stable in a test environment using standard atx supplies. Now we need to choose the right server psu's or combo psu's.

2U server case which needs 1600W,  12x 6pin pcie is needed.
2U server case which needs 1300W   5/6 x 8pin pcie is needed

1U server case which needs 750w     5/6 x 8pin pcie is needed
1U server case which needs 1300W   5/6 x 8pin pcie is needed
1u server case which needs 1000W   4x 6pin pcie is needed.

General idea is bulk purchasing of 2 to 3 models or a universal connectors for a specific line of supplies like HP or older IBM's. Any ideas are welcome.
Hokey dokey - my area of fun Cheesy This of course all applies to any miner that needs only +12vdc

1st question: Only 12vdc is needed with all other required voltages being derived from it on-board the cards right?

2nd: PCIe 8pins? They provide 2 more common returns to reduce ground bounce and technically allow more current to be pulled from the (still only 3) +12v pins. Good to use. Just surprised to see someone is on their toes Tongue Great reference to PC power connectors http://www.moddiy.com/pages/Power-Supply-Connectors-%26-Pinouts.html Also good to see lots of PCIe plugs used in all power ranges - by the Molex book max load is EDIT 5-amps per-pin or only 180w 8-amps per pin or 288w per-plug with the always only three +12v pins.

Oh, an on commercial psu's with 6/8-pin PCIe plugs: The 2-pin adapter plug on them (to make the 6-pin an '8' pin one) - not a good idea. Still leaves only 3 real wires being used for the return and that defeats the whole point of the 8-pin plug. Make sure a commercial supply actually has 1-piece 8-pin PCIe plugs with all pins having wires running back to the psu.

With all HP server supplies of that family, refer to http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/14209_na/14209_na.pdf Pay attention to the input voltage vs wattage rating! Most are dual rated eg found the one you gave on Amazon and it is 800w on 95-120vac in and 1,000w on 200-240vac in. Now, for the highest watt rigs, the HP supplies all support 1+n operation so they can be paralleled, all need to be same supplies so 2 of the 900/1200w ones got you covered up to 1.8kw load off of (2) 110v plugs I will need to find what control pins are used to master/slave them.

As for connecting to them... I use the HP 900/1,200w ones to power all the s1's and soon s3's in my Ant Pharm. I have yet to find a connector for the back so direct soldering is used (and best). Each supply feeds 4 PCIe 6-pin connectors or 2 S1/S3's. Because the supplies are 3ft away from the Ants I use red/black paired uber flexible 12ga wire from McMaster-Carr or AutoZone (McMaster way cheaper!) http://www.mcmaster.com/#9697t4/=szo6yr The PCIe plugs are from FrozenCPU and start as 12" extenders, just cut off the male plug. I'd think that you can OEM them as female plugs with leads. And being OEM - use 16ga wire vs normal 18ga, very very minimal additional cost - much better for power.

For use directly in the case you would of course just solder the PCIe leads directly to the power planes on the psu. In my case I used 14-16ga splices which are perfect for the 12 ga feeds on one side and on the other side 3 twisted together 18ga leads from the PCIe plugs. oh - on 12ga wire into 14-16 ga splices? Only works with flex wire. The fine strands twist tighter together so smaller diameter.

On the small pins control part of the HP connector, pin-1 on the left end is common, pin-4 is DC on/off. Wire to a switch, when circuit closed the DC power is on.

Picture time!


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July 28, 2014, 04:59:40 PM
AMT, as you suggested, I sent email to your sales@,  every week I follow up,no reply at all.what is the point?
Can you reply to my email. thank you.

AMT, can you reply to my email? any words? what's settlement ?

thanks.
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Just a regular guy who likes his fiber.
July 28, 2014, 04:58:31 PM
I called DHL nothing with my name in my zip code has been sent.

I'd like an explanation, or a tracking number, please.

I'd encourage all AMT customers to give DHL a call.
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July 28, 2014, 03:08:13 PM
At least we are getting the promised hashrate. If it works and its a proven design that is known to work then whats the problem?
No problem with that.  But see the other thread...
Generally could care less what goes on there. ck is just miffed so many folks use cgminer and he gets near nada from it.. Now if it is a reminder to trolls that if they want post to remain, the users thread is where they belong, fine. Gee, Bitmain, Spondoolies, BlackArrow, TechnoBit, etc all moderate/delete posts. Their thread, their rules. So what?

Ja, BitMine.ch seemed to have no idea of the pitfalls in birthing a complex power design. JoshCo definitely had no idea and relied massively on what BitMine gave to them. Wildly over promised on many levels? Damn right. Horribly executed. Double damn right.

BFL - after their 40nm chip release, dumbfounded there. To me the technicals needed to safely push the Monarch chip should have been obvious. And should have been addressed in later revs after working ones on the comparatively low original spec hash rate were sent out.

In all cases regardless of chip/miner mfgr the price paid then vs now for GHS is the massive foaming at the mouth gorilla that certainly has to be dealt with somehow. Getting rigs with at least as-ordered hash  rate is #1 right now. Only a start, but still a 1st step.


Right in that sense at least better than BFL who has yet to deliver $4,000+ 600Ghs machines. And they have NO plans to compensate. AMT as disorganized as they are have at least made some effort to offer something. Whether that happens is another matter. But its important that they first deliver what was originally ordered. Hashrate at least.

Not true, i was compensated from BFL...after 6 months of delay! and couple emails (1000 of them..lol)
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July 28, 2014, 12:13:49 PM

Because their progenitors have enough sense to drop the price in a public way. This is essentially what we ordered, and if they can afford to sell them at that price we should be compensated to a similar amount.

im sure zipkin will give you one now and call it even.

That would be my guess as well.
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July 28, 2014, 12:06:53 PM

Because their progenitors have enough sense to drop the price in a public way. This is essentially what we ordered, and if they can afford to sell them at that price we should be compensated to a similar amount.

im sure zipkin will give you one now and call it even.
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July 28, 2014, 11:34:21 AM

Because their progenitors have enough sense to drop the price in a public way. This is essentially what we ordered, and if they can afford to sell them at that price we should be compensated to a similar amount.
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July 28, 2014, 10:42:38 AM
Not publicly providing tracking numbers is a good idea that isn't information any company should release, but the excuse of not providing it directly to each client because of "potential trouble makers" seems somewhat bizarre to say the least.
Indeed the UPS tracking number should be sent privately to the client as soon as the package is shipped.  Thre is no excuse for not doing so.

I intended to suggest that they publish only

  "order #, model, quantity, date order received, date(s) product(s) shipped/refunded"

for all orders, so that each client can verify not only his status but also how it stands in relation to the other clients.

In normal circumstances a company would not publish such data, but given the persistent (and, I would think, justified) suspicions that this company is being quite unfair in the scheduling of shipments/refunds, publising that information would do more good than harm, IMHO.

Bitcoin-related businesses in general are risky because they are not regulated, and, being private companies rather than public, they are not required to submit to independent audit every quarter.  One way to reduce that risk and increase customer confidence is to be more transparent than a normal corporation would.


After every ones order is delivered, aside from the select few, then yes maybe we'll do that. But in general companies don't need to do that,nor justify itself on this forum/thread. Our clients never came from here, maybe 20-30 of them max. Some of them ended up here but we do not sell on this forum and have no desire to gain clients from this forum. We're targeting larger companies now, just as we did before. End users, or single client consumer sales are a headache,and for our small staff its more logical to focus on a few enterprise clients rather then hundreds of average joe. When you need 100-1000 machines in 7 days or less, come to us, that's about it.

Lets go back to supporting AMT guys, we are turning it around and strategically we're in a very decent position in the moment.


stop pretending to be the victim here! drop a pair and own up to the "cluster fuck" that is AMT miners. take responsibility for all the lies and deceit. for once in your life try to be a decent human being. how do you expect people to forgive you for all of the lies? it's as if you feel you have done nothing wrong. it's absolutely fucking crazy!

how would you react if Best Buy wouldn't deliver the TV you ordered online? What if they told you it would arrive on Monday and it never showed up? What if they then told you the refund was in the mail - but then it too never arrived? how would you feel if this cycle was perpetuated for 8 months? are you capable of empathy? most sociopaths are clinically incapable of this process
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July 28, 2014, 10:38:50 AM
Also, I'd like to steer the conversation back to your previously mentioned hosting, and if it will be used for compensation at all.
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July 28, 2014, 10:37:14 AM
Alright,

Can we gear the conversation in a direction which may actually help us get the 1u/2u's out the door. Please, if you're willing elaborate on  your experience with server PSU's,  like the HP 403781-001 DL380 G5  vs 2x ESP129 HP 550 Watt .  Like lets discuss server psu's, connectors and the best way you guys would solve an attempt at a universal design for a box for A1/A2/BE200:

The below cases have been developed and ran stable in a test environment using standard atx supplies. Now we need to choose the right server psu's or combo psu's.

2U server case which needs 1600W,  12x 6pin pcie is needed.
2U server case which needs 1300W   5/6 x 8pin pcie is needed

1U server case which needs 750w     5/6 x 8pin pcie is needed
1U server case which needs 1300W   5/6 x 8pin pcie is needed
1u server case which needs 1000W   4x 6pin pcie is needed.

General idea is bulk purchasing of 2 to 3 models or a universal connectors for a specific line of supplies like HP or older IBM's. Any ideas are welcome.

Well I'm out of this one. Though I wouldn't sneeze at something in a 1u chassis.
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July 28, 2014, 10:31:35 AM
I'm going to be pissed if this thing arrives while I'm at the VA. This is why I need a tracking number.

I'm about to call DHL to see if anything is enroute to my house.
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July 28, 2014, 10:08:39 AM
Alright,

Can we gear the conversation in a direction which may actually help us get the 1u/2u's out the door. Please, if you're willing elaborate on  your experience with server PSU's,  like the HP 403781-001 DL380 G5  vs 2x ESP129 HP 550 Watt .  Like lets discuss server psu's, connectors and the best way you guys would solve an attempt at a universal design for a box for A1/A2/BE200:

The below cases have been developed and ran stable in a test environment using standard atx supplies. Now we need to choose the right server psu's or combo psu's.

2U server case which needs 1600W,  12x 6pin pcie is needed.
2U server case which needs 1300W   5/6 x 8pin pcie is needed

1U server case which needs 750w     5/6 x 8pin pcie is needed
1U server case which needs 1300W   5/6 x 8pin pcie is needed
1u server case which needs 1000W   4x 6pin pcie is needed.

General idea is bulk purchasing of 2 to 3 models or a universal connectors for a specific line of supplies like HP or older IBM's. Any ideas are welcome.
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July 28, 2014, 09:28:33 AM
AMT, as you suggested, I sent email to your sales@,  every week I follow up,no reply at all.what is the point?
Can you reply to my email. thank you.
grn
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July 28, 2014, 02:35:55 AM
If you have requested refund you may want to not accept. realize that not accepting will require legal action to get your money back but you have a very good case as long as you have already asked for a refund
legendary
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July 28, 2014, 01:12:16 AM
I am glad that you've found an avenue to make your clients whole.

What part of taking $6000 customer funds, waiting 6 months, then delivering them $1000 worth of machines is making a client "whole"?

I shouldn't respond. I tend to agree with your assessment. But they are still delivering what you paid for, very fucking late. It beats the hell out of nothing. There are several ways to make your money back in alts. It's a gamble, but you have a machine to gamble with, whereas if it's all tied up, you're just plain out the money.

Is it right? No. Is it better than the alternatives? Yes.
legendary
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July 28, 2014, 12:33:05 AM
What part? A big part I'd think. Far better than nothing at all ala' Hashfast folks. Is that what you would prefer? Now as to can/should it be all, different story entirely.

Once you accept delivery, that's all you're going to get. That's why AMT won't release tracking numbers or even any details whatsoever what is being shipped. Sign for that package and you're "whole" in their eyes.
Entirely up to the individual customer. I for one would prefer at least finally getting what I ordered, evaluate it, and then deciding if to pursue the matter further. Even after accepting the gear there is still a lot of legal ground to stand on either way.
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