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Yes I also like where the market is headed and I am glad I didn't sell all my GPUs yet. Seems like the profits right now with 10c power are "ok", not the greatest but if you got tons of GPUs then it might be worth while.

I was actually rebuilding my rigs back in June 2019 when the alt markets were rallying again and basically less than 1 month later the profits were shot down and been pretty bad since then. Would be nice if we could stay at least >$350 for the next few months or so. Because the difficulty obviously will keep rising and people will keep scouping up cheap RX gpus on Craigslist to mine and the difficulty will keep rising every day until the profits vanish.

If we get >$1000 ETH or ProgPOW then obviously the profits will be great once again however I am not sure we can reach that number. Hopefully we break the 2019 high for ETH this time around and head into the +$500 area for ETH and other alts like XMR.

Yup... we are in similar boats.  My power is 11 cents so just recently got in the ballpark of an acceptable "profitability-to-effort" ratio.  I also turned back on all my rigs last June... and also for just over a month lol... until prices dropped again.  Really hoping for a sustained action this time.  Not sure we will see ATH any time soon but if it could even fluctuate between $500-$600 for a while it would be well worth it.

As you point out, anything over $300 range will start to bring more and more people back into mining, which in turn bumps up the difficulty. I'm curious as to how many people like us actually help onto all/most of our gear through this 2nd downswing. Can't imagine there were that many but who knows.  I almost started selling mine off multiple times but just never did it lol.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
I have a thread 🧵 ripper 1920x with 8 sticks ram 128gb.

It has three vegas making a few dollars.
legendary
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Yes I also like where the market is headed and I am glad I didn't sell all my GPUs yet. Seems like the profits right now with 10c power are "ok", not the greatest but if you got tons of GPUs then it might be worth while.

I was actually rebuilding my rigs back in June 2019 when the alt markets were rallying again and basically less than 1 month later the profits were shot down and been pretty bad since then. Would be nice if we could stay at least >$350 for the next few months or so. Because the difficulty obviously will keep rising and people will keep scouping up cheap RX gpus on Craigslist to mine and the difficulty will keep rising every day until the profits vanish.

If we get >$1000 ETH or ProgPOW then obviously the profits will be great once again however I am not sure we can reach that number. Hopefully we break the 2019 high for ETH this time around and head into the +$500 area for ETH and other alts like XMR.
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Well I am finally back after roughly 2 years away and was very happy to see Phil's threads are still going!

The recent market surge has gotten me re-invigorated on crypto to let's hope this trend continues!

I only read the last 3-4 pages so far but a couple of things to comments on...

1- Filecoin:  i checked out their site and signed up. Hopefully this will turn out to be a reasonable option for the ~150TB of HDD space i have sitting idle.  I ran them on BURST for about 2 years and actually did reasonably well since i cashed out about 50% of it before the crash.  More than enough to pay off all those HDDs with a decent amount left over so no complaints, but would be nice to be able to put them to use again as they are now just collecting dust. Was going to start selling them off but will probably hold off on that for now.

2- RAM:  not sure i followed exactly why but it seemed at least some people are bumping up the RAM in some of their systems. If you are in this boat, it might be a good idea to buy what you can soon.  All indications are that the memory market is going to spike again very soon. As many of you know, this is a very cyclical market and prices plummeted in 2019. This is expected to turn around soon, with prices possibly going up 30-50% within the next ~6 months.

Finally, just a few thoughts on the recent market swell and its impact on mining.  Personally, I still have my 6 (2 1070ti/1080 & 4 rx470) rigs lying dormant but assuming ETH holds it gains and continues upwards, I will very likely fire them up again in the next day or so. I was just about to start listing the GPUs on ebay and even unplugged one of my 1070ti's 2 weeks ago to take photos for an auction. Well, my procrastinating in listing them might pay off lol.  Luckily, my only consideration is power cost since all my equipment has long ago been ROI'd but I feel for those trying to break freshly into the mining scene... seems very daunting unless we see a sustained impressive bull market (which we are all hoping for).  but at current levels, pretty much impossible to ROI new gear.
legendary
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Its been a long time since I've visited this thread!

I recently switched energy provider to one that gives cheaper electric for 4 hours overnight between 0030 and 0430 so I can charge my Nissan Leaf cheaply.

The rate for those 4 hours is 5p or 6.5c/kWh compared to 14p or 18c normally, conversion as I'm in the UK!

In this position would you bother to mine during those 4 hours? I sold up all my GPUs and PSUs in 2018 apart from one 1070 and one 1060 3gb in two gaming rigs. I still have a 6 GPU motherboard.

Thanks for reading my pondering, and thoughts appreciated Smiley

Did you make the math about how much can you mine 4 hours daily in a month?
You have cheap electricity in those 4 hours, but I believe it's not enough to make some decent profits
Maybe if you have some GPUs os asics you could turn on, but for buy and expecting profits, I believe it's not worth the effort
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Its been a long time since I've visited this thread!

I recently switched energy provider to one that gives cheaper electric for 4 hours overnight between 0030 and 0430 so I can charge my Nissan Leaf cheaply.

The rate for those 4 hours is 5p or 6.5c/kWh compared to 14p or 18c normally, conversion as I'm in the UK!

In this position would you bother to mine during those 4 hours? I sold up all my GPUs and PSUs in 2018 apart from one 1070 and one 1060 3gb in two gaming rigs. I still have a 6 GPU motherboard.

Thanks for reading my pondering, and thoughts appreciated Smiley
legendary
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i have the 1920x thread ripper with 8 sticks of 16 gb.  it is actually turning a small profit.

it has three vegas and the 1920x. it is making about three bucks. and burning about two bucks.
legendary
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profit is rising  Cheesy if this sustains, if this is the start of a new bull run you all can buy your mining gears again..no worries lol

5$ a day...nope! how about 20$ a day? hmmm...then everybody buys again......miners are waiting for confirmation of bull market  Grin

Yeah I have   about 50,000 hash in my :

30,000  3x 3900's
  6,000  1x 3800x
  5,000  1x 3700x
  6,000  1x 1920x threadripper  paid off
  3,000  1x 2700  paid off

50,000

 I underclock them all a bit saves on power  and with the warm winter I don't need lots of heat from them
they are turning a tiny profit right now.  need a bull run asap.

3990x isn't so great, i think they just want to reach 64 cores for whatever reasons.

3960x is the sweet spot because benchmarks lowest rating for 3990x vs 3960x is just half the performance, 24 cores vs 64 cores for less than half the price 4000$ vs 1400$

but for me if i will do an upgrade, i'd go with ryzen 2xxx (preferably 65w tdp), b450 board (compatible with 32gb sticks with max 128gb capacity), 256gb ddr4 kits (128gb split into two rigs)

i like to keep the processor cool, unlike GPU's with the die directly connected to the heat sink, CPUs are not (unless you want to delid if temps got worse).

i also prefer CPU's to be air cooled, to make the heat sink somehow embedded to the board. set and forget  kind of setup, with liquid - there's the pump, the hose, the liquid and the radiator.


I see that profitability went from like 1 penny a day from a few weeks ago to almost 2 dimes for a RX series GPU with 10c power. So obviously if price keeps increasing it might be worth restarting our rigs however the issue is this.

Say ETH goes 2x from $220 to $440 or so. Obviously the revenue would be $1/day/GPU and $0.30 would go to power costs so a net profit of $0.70. I guess not bad if you got 100's of these suckers in your basement collecting dust. However...

Keep in mind that as price rising so does the difficulty and what might seen like 3.5x more profit in reality might be 2x more profit since more people turn their rigs back on.

mine low (difficulty), sell high.
legendary
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profit is rising  Cheesy if this sustains, if this is the start of a new bull run you all can buy your mining gears again..no worries lol

5$ a day...nope! how about 20$ a day? hmmm...then everybody buys again......miners are waiting for confirmation of bull market  Grin

I see that profitability went from like 1 penny a day from a few weeks ago to almost 2 dimes for a RX series GPU with 10c power. So obviously if price keeps increasing it might be worth restarting our rigs however the issue is this.

Say ETH goes 2x from $220 to $440 or so. Obviously the revenue would be $1/day/GPU and $0.30 would go to power costs so a net profit of $0.70. I guess not bad if you got 100's of these suckers in your basement collecting dust. However...

Keep in mind that as price rising so does the difficulty and what might seen like 3.5x more profit in reality might be 2x more profit since more people turn their rigs back on.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
profit is rising  Cheesy if this sustains, if this is the start of a new bull run you all can buy your mining gears again..no worries lol

5$ a day...nope! how about 20$ a day? hmmm...then everybody buys again......miners are waiting for confirmation of bull market  Grin

Yeah I have   about 50,000 hash in my :

30,000  3x 3900's
  6,000  1x 3800x
  5,000  1x 3700x
  6,000  1x 1920x threadripper  paid off
  3,000  1x 2700  paid off

50,000

 I underclock them all a bit saves on power  and with the warm winter I don't need lots of heat from them
they are turning a tiny profit right now.  need a bull run asap.
legendary
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profit is rising  Cheesy if this sustains, if this is the start of a new bull run you all can buy your mining gears again..no worries lol

5$ a day...nope! how about 20$ a day? hmmm...then everybody buys again......miners are waiting for confirmation of bull market  Grin
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
hehe philipma1957 can do it under 1000$ because of existing hardware "on hand".

some of my boards are circa ~2006 with 1080ti's...i'm the one who needs an upgrade lol



I could do it for 4k vs 6k.

nvme m.2 top of the line..  check got that cost $0
8 sticks of 16gb ram....      check got that cost $0
good case ..................      check got that cost $0
1500 watt titanium psu .... check got that cost $0
2x 120mm water cooler ... check got that cost $0


mobo would cost me 400-500
cpu    would cost me 3980  damn that is pricey

gpu I toss in a gtx 1660 as it would mine randomx and I don't care about  the gpu.

I guess this would do 50,000 hash   if it does randomx   the cache is 256  cores/threads are 64/128

my 3900x does 11,000 hash at randomx  the cache is 64  cores/thread 12/24

the thing is  50,000 hash is only 5 bucks a day so most likely I won't buy it.


🔴 ☺ 🎪💰
legendary
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hehe philipma1957 can do it under 1000$ because of existing hardware "on hand".

some of my boards are circa ~2006 with 1080ti's...i'm the one who needs an upgrade lol

legendary
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Lets build a few of these rigs  and mine the shit out of file coin Grin

Not!


amd threadripper 3990x   = 256 cache up to 128 treads

cost $$$


https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-threadripper-3990x/p/N82E16819113620?


yeah $3989 usd


boards for it are about 450 and up


https://www.newegg.com/asus-prime-trx40-pro/p/N82E16813119219

cooler 75
https://www.newegg.com/cooler-master-masterliquid-ml240l-rgb-liquid-cooling-system/p/2YM-0004-00015?

ram and case and ssd  and psu =

at least 400 more

so just under 5k  without a graphics card.  Damn this is pricey.

6k to 7k

legendary
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filecoin might be the holy grail of ASIC resistance. - will this gain/bring value? we will see.
It's a lot harder for me to justify building something to mine this though. You're talking multiple thousands in hardware for a single unit.

not really multiple, more like 1000 - 2000$ ...for a rig, existing miners already have gpu, cpu(randomx miner's already have this), psu.

expenses will be, 128gb kits, nvme, satas and hdds and frame/case. expenses are like just buying  an extra 1 to 2 nvidia 2080 cards for existing miners.

some boards can support 32gb x 4 = 128gb, non threadripper boards can pull it off BTW, hence cheaper cpu and motherboard for the PC.

literally 1 cpu 1 vote no?... more like 1PC 1 vote LOL

that's why i said earlier up post that ryzen randomX rigs might do a little upgrade to pull it off. that's why we are here in crypto BTW we are gambling with time and money  Wink
i havent been following filecoin recently, whats the ETA on it launching? been waiting.. forever.. lol

https://filecoin.io/blog/filecoin-testnet-mining/

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Mainnet launch window: April 27 - May 29, 2020
This 1 month window is intended to cover unforeseen circumstances (such as critical security vulnerabilities that need to be addressed, etc) that might delay launch
We plan to launch at the beginning of this launch window

it is quite near, that's why it got my attention.
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filecoin might be the holy grail of ASIC resistance. - will this gain/bring value? we will see.
It's a lot harder for me to justify building something to mine this though. You're talking multiple thousands in hardware for a single unit.

not really multiple, more like 1000 - 2000$ ...for a rig, existing miners already have gpu, cpu(randomx miner's already have this), psu.

expenses will be, 128gb kits, nvme, satas and hdds and frame/case. expenses are like just buying  an extra 1 to 2 nvidia 2080 cards for existing miners.

some boards can support 32gb x 4 = 128gb, non threadripper boards can pull it off BTW, hence cheaper cpu and motherboard for the PC.

literally 1 cpu 1 vote no?... more like 1PC 1 vote LOL

that's why i said earlier up post that ryzen randomX rigs might do a little upgrade to pull it off. that's why we are here in crypto BTW we are gambling with time and money  Wink
i havent been following filecoin recently, whats the ETA on it launching? been waiting.. forever.. lol
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Philip.... whats a good entry level building blocks for AMD Ryzen 3900X (or better) mining rig? mobo, RAM, etc. Thanks

Okay this mobo is decent

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-x570-pro4/p/N82E16813157886?


this cooler

https://www.newegg.com/cooler-master-masterliquid-ml240l-rgb-liquid-cooling-system/p/2YM-0004-00015?


ram is a tough call  as this mobo says it can do 32gb ram sticks so down the road you could use 4 32gb ram sticks and mine filecoin

or just use any 2 sticks of 8gb ram like these

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820233852?

I went with 2x 8gb = 16gb for my builds

I used a nvme for ssd

https://www.newegg.com/sabrent-rocket-nvme-512gb/p/0D9-00JJ-00001?



just want to say Phil its so cool seeing you and some of the others keeping it real in this thread, years later Cheesy
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So yesterday I found out that my coins in two projects were stolen in barely announced "chain swaps." The one (COSS) did not automatically convert my tokens into their new format for "legal" reasons (even though they had my tokens in their exchange wallet) and now supposedly will refuse all other swaps (how convenient, they get to keep my money!)

The other, Innova, is a total shit coin and I'm not terribly surprised, from searching I found a single tweet and post on here, and that was it.

Crypto is such a joke, I have no idea why I haven't launched my own coin and done the same..
legendary
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Right now, my eyes are just on BTC. This 10k breakout is going to be big for all those who are holding bitcoin with extreme patience. XRP is a joke my friend I'm not going to waste my money on it.           
             
                     
                 
                                                                                     
                                                                           
         

Its funny you mention XRP, the CEO of Bitmex (largest derivates platform for Bitcoin) just tweeted

https://twitter.com/CryptoHayes/status/1224533876355153920

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Is it called Ripple, XRP, or dogshit? Who knows, who cares. It’s worth more than zero so it’s time to trade the USD pair on BitMEX. Boo-Yaka-sha!

And remember what happened when Bitmex launched ETHUSD perps? Went straight downhill from there. I think it was $500 or so and haven't touched that figure. So most likely XRP will follow the same path, as long as it gets the same liquidity as ETH.
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Right now, my eyes are just on BTC. This 10k breakout is going to be big for all those who are holding bitcoin with extreme patience. XRP is a joke my friend I'm not going to waste my money on it.           
             
                     
                 
                                                                                     
                                                                           
         
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