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England women cricketers share excitement over Pakistan tour and so do the pakistani women team. England women team is world champions while Pakistani women team have no match with them. It will be a good exposure for the pakistani women team to play two T20 and 3 ODI with them.

Schedule of the Series:-

14 October :: 1st T20I

15 October :: 2nd T20I

18 October :: 1st ODI

20 October :: 2nd ODI

22 October :: 3rd ODI

I look forward to watching this series. Although the series will be one-sided. I don't think Pakistan will be able to win a single match. But playing against the world champions will increase the experience of the Pakistan women's team.

Women cricket matches are not so popular among the men. Women may watch them who like cricket but i don't think any men are interested in these matches. Even i did not know any single women player's name of any country.

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The Irish team played very well once upon a time. But in the last few years, I have not heard any news of their series. The team was almost lost. Now they are coming back again. Although they lost the match yesterday, they played well enough. And by watching their game I realized they have a lot of talented players. Paul Stirling is one of them.

Irish team is just disintegrating. The quality of cricket is declining because they are not allowed to play against the older test playing nations. Once in a while they play against weak teams like Scotland and Canada, and that is not doing much to improve their quality. On paper they have the test status. However in the three years since they received their test status, they have played a total of only 3 matches.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 09, 2021, 12:48:17 PM

England women cricketers share excitement over Pakistan tour and so do the pakistani women team. England women team is world champions while Pakistani women team have no match with them. It will be a good exposure for the pakistani women team to play two T20 and 3 ODI with them.

Schedule of the Series:-

14 October :: 1st T20I

15 October :: 2nd T20I

18 October :: 1st ODI

20 October :: 2nd ODI

22 October :: 3rd ODI

I look forward to watching this series. Although the series will be one-sided. I don't think Pakistan will be able to win a single match. But playing against the world champions will increase the experience of the Pakistan women's team.

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England women cricketers share excitement over Pakistan tour and so do the pakistani women team. England women team is world champions while Pakistani women team have no match with them. It will be a good exposure for the pakistani women team to play two T20 and 3 ODI with them.

Schedule of the Series:-

14 October :: 1st T20I

15 October :: 2nd T20I

18 October :: 1st ODI

20 October :: 2nd ODI

22 October :: 3rd ODI

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In last year we have no some good number of matches due to Covid-19 but good thing still many players done good job for their countries and Hafeez was leading runs scorer in this format and KLRahul from India was second https://www.mykhel.com/cricket/most-runs-in-t20-2020-rs66/

Babar Azam is the highest run scorer in T20 in 2020, he did not play much T20 International matches but he is leading the pack from the rest of the players by a long margin. If you are taking T20 Internationals then Mohammad Hafeez and KL Rahul are the top run scorers.

Here is the list.
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=6;id=2020;type=year

Quote from: Sithara007 on January 07, 2021, 09:56:57 PM

PSL doesn't have the same level of competition, compared to the leagues such as IPL and BBL. But still, Babar did well during PSL 2020. In my opinion, he deserved a slot on the XI from the ICC. The only reason I can find is that Babar made his T20I/Test debut by the end of 2016. So he has only three playing years in the decade. That may be the main reason why ICC ignored him for the XI.

Babar Azam averaged 55.20 in T20 Internationals in 8 matches in 2020 and he is the leading run scorer in all of T20 played in 2020 and i am not sure why he was ignored from the ICC playing XI.

In 2020 his majority of runs came against weaker opponent such as Zimbabwe and Bangladesh. He scored 4 half century and 3 came against them. ICC do have some system of weightage on scoring runs against weak or strong teams.

Despite this i still believe he deserve the place in T-20 squad as overall his record against top ranking team is excellent.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 08, 2021, 10:03:45 PM

Test status hasn't changed anything for Ireland. They are having test status only in name. They are not allowed to play tests against teams other than Zimbabwe and Afghanistan. On top of that, the share of revenues that they receive from the ICC remain far below what other countries such as Zimbabwe receive annually. I don't have high expectations from Ireland. They will end up like what happened to Kenya two decades ago.

If Ireland improves their performance then they can face other established teams, if not who will be watching one sided carnage, they need to play much better innings against Zimbabwe and Afghanistan and then if they perform well then they will get the opportunity to play against top tier teams. Regarding the revenue they just got the Test status and you cannot expect them to get a substantial share just like that and i think it has to do with the revenue they generate as well.

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Quote from: covfefe_ on January 08, 2021, 11:31:52 AM

Paul Stirling is surely one of the best all rounder for Ireland. Maybe the most important player after Kevin O Brien.
But I'm really sad to see how far behind the Irish team has fell. They had an impressive performance in 2006-2016 but have failed to deliver and justify their test status. They were struggling before and they gave a forgettable game even after the pandemic.

Test status hasn't changed anything for Ireland. They are having test status only in name. They are not allowed to play tests against teams other than Zimbabwe and Afghanistan. On top of that, the share of revenues that they receive from the ICC remain far below what other countries such as Zimbabwe receive annually. I don't have high expectations from Ireland. They will end up like what happened to Kenya two decades ago.

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Quote from: Indymoney on January 07, 2021, 04:16:12 PM

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In last year we have no some good number of matches due to Covid-19 but good thing still many players done good job for their countries and Hafeez was leading runs scorer in this format and KLRahul from India was second https://www.mykhel.com/cricket/most-runs-in-t20-2020-rs66/

Babar Azam is the highest run scorer in T20 in 2020, he did not play much T20 International matches but he is leading the pack from the rest of the players by a long margin. If you are taking T20 Internationals then Mohammad Hafeez and KL Rahul are the top run scorers.

Here is the list.
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=6;id=2020;type=year

Quote from: Sithara007 on January 07, 2021, 09:56:57 PM

PSL doesn't have the same level of competition, compared to the leagues such as IPL and BBL. But still, Babar did well during PSL 2020. In my opinion, he deserved a slot on the XI from the ICC. The only reason I can find is that Babar made his T20I/Test debut by the end of 2016. So he has only three playing years in the decade. That may be the main reason why ICC ignored him for the XI.

Babar Azam averaged 55.20 in T20 Internationals in 8 matches in 2020 and he is the leading run scorer in all of T20 played in 2020 and i am not sure why he was ignored from the ICC playing XI.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on January 08, 2021, 01:48:28 AM

ODI match between Ireland and UAE ongoing at Abu Dhabi, if anyone is interested. Ireland has got a good start and they are at 88/1, with Paul Stirling and Andy Balbirnie at crease. There are three ODIs in this series, to be followed by another 3-match ODI series against Afghanistan. Two players are making their debut for the UAE (Alishan Sharafu from Kerala and Kashif Daud from Pakistan).

Ireland played well enough but they could not win the match. UAE won the match by chasing the target of 270 runs. Rizwan and Mohammad Usman played just great. Both have scored centuries. But I was fascinated by watching Ireland’s opener Paul Stirling’s batting. He was unbeaten on 131 runs.

Paul Stirling is surely one of the best all rounder for Ireland. Maybe the most important player after Kevin O Brien.
But I'm really sad to see how far behind the Irish team has fell. They had an impressive performance in 2006-2016 but have failed to deliver and justify their test status. They were struggling before and they gave a forgettable game even after the pandemic.

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ODI match between Ireland and UAE ongoing at Abu Dhabi, if anyone is interested. Ireland has got a good start and they are at 88/1, with Paul Stirling and Andy Balbirnie at crease. There are three ODIs in this series, to be followed by another 3-match ODI series against Afghanistan. Two players are making their debut for the UAE (Alishan Sharafu from Kerala and Kashif Daud from Pakistan).

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 07, 2021, 09:56:57 PM

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Last two years most of the teams played more T20 international and every tour there was a T20 series consider every team was preparing for the T20 World Cup.

Babar Azam did not play much T20 Internationals last year but he scored 4 half centuries in the 5 matches he played and in the PSL he was the top scorer of the tournament and he is probably the highest run scorer in T20 last year.

PSL doesn't have the same level of competition, compared to the leagues such as IPL and BBL. But still, Babar did well during PSL 2020. In my opinion, he deserved a slot on the XI from the ICC. The only reason I can find is that Babar made his T20I/Test debut by the end of 2016. So he has only three playing years in the decade. That may be the main reason why ICC ignored him for the XI.

I completely agree with @JSRAW franchise cricket does not count when ICC is selecting players, it is important how many matches were played by that player while playing for his country in that decade. Three years that he played was within that decade but how many games he played representing his country counts more.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on January 07, 2021, 04:05:06 PM

Last two years most of the teams played more T20 international and every tour there was a T20 series consider every team was preparing for the T20 World Cup.

Babar Azam did not play much T20 Internationals last year but he scored 4 half centuries in the 5 matches he played and in the PSL he was the top scorer of the tournament and he is probably the highest run scorer in T20 last year.

PSL doesn't have the same level of competition, compared to the leagues such as IPL and BBL. But still, Babar did well during PSL 2020. In my opinion, he deserved a slot on the XI from the ICC. The only reason I can find is that Babar made his T20I/Test debut by the end of 2016. So he has only three playing years in the decade. That may be the main reason why ICC ignored him for the XI.

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I am not going to disagree with your statement, but in international cricket, the emphasis is on ODI and test matches. Most of the teams play less number of T20Is, when compared to ODIs. The fact is that Babar Azam played a less number of T20 matches (both international and franchise) and that was the reason why he was not considered for a slot in the T20 team.

Last two years most of the teams played more T20 international and every tour there was a T20 series consider every team was preparing for the T20 World Cup.

Babar Azam did not play much T20 Internationals last year but he scored 4 half centuries in the 5 matches he played and in the PSL he was the top scorer of the tournament and he is probably the highest run scorer in T20 last year.

In last year we have no some good number of matches due to Covid-19 but good thing still many players done good job for their countries and Hafeez was leading runs scorer in this format and KLRahul from India was second https://www.mykhel.com/cricket/most-runs-in-t20-2020-rs66/

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I am not going to disagree with your statement, but in international cricket, the emphasis is on ODI and test matches. Most of the teams play less number of T20Is, when compared to ODIs. The fact is that Babar Azam played a less number of T20 matches (both international and franchise) and that was the reason why he was not considered for a slot in the T20 team.

Last two years most of the teams played more T20 international and every tour there was a T20 series consider every team was preparing for the T20 World Cup.

Babar Azam did not play much T20 Internationals last year but he scored 4 half centuries in the 5 matches he played and in the PSL he was the top scorer of the tournament and he is probably the highest run scorer in T20 last year.

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 02, 2021, 03:33:37 AM

The only thing surprise me in T-20 list is absence of Pakistani players. At least Babar seems much better choice in comparison of Aaron Finch when playing at no 3.

Babar Azam was absent from the largest franchise T20 league in the world (IPL), and this seems to be the most important reason for me. Apart from his short stint with Sydney Sixers, he has been completely absent from the foreign leagues. And nowadays franchise leagues are getting much more viewership, when compared to the T20I matches.

Franchise cricket fame is all good and everyone loves that but performing and representing the country should be on the priority when giving the international awards. After all its ICC award of the decade not some Franchise event.

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Quote from: Haunebu on January 02, 2021, 02:54:49 AM

I don't think this will ever change. The gap between both will always be huge just like other sports such as Soccer etc. However, interest is slowly rising thanks to domestic competitions.

The gap will always be there. You can never expect the women's games to have the same viewership as that of the men. However the recent viewership stats for the WBBL are very encouraging. That said, some of the boards (especially the CA and the ECB) are very supportive towards the women's game. And that the same time, boards such as BCCI have refused to offer much support.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 31, 2020, 05:43:03 AM

Ellyse Perry is like the equivalent of Steve Smith in the Australian women's team. I really doubt whether she would have been this much successful, if she was playing for any of the other countries. Cricket Australia takes good care of it's women's team, unlike other boards such as the BCCI and the PCB. There are a lot of talented female cricketers in India, but they never get the same amount of opportunities.

Ellyse Perry is a superstar in Australia and her debut at the age of 17 was a celebrated one because she played for the Australian national soccer team before entering cricket and she is a highly talented all round player and she was forced to select one sport and hence she choose cricket . I usually do not watch women's match but i usually watch the matches Australia woman is playing because of the level of standard they display especially T20.

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The only thing surprise me in T-20 list is absence of Pakistani players. At least Babar seems much better choice in comparison of Aaron Finch when playing at no 3.

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Quote from: n0ne on December 31, 2020, 07:13:46 AM

We all discussing about the awards got by the men cricketers. We need to take into conversation about the ICC Female Cricketers. Ellyse Perry making a clean sweep grabbing awards on the three categories is really a big achievement. ICC Cricketer of the Decade, ICC Women's ODI Player of the Decade and Women's T20I Player of the Decade.

I mentioned Perry already in my earlier post. Everyone are aware of her brilliance in Women's Cricket and there is no denying that. She is easily one of the very few female Cricketers that I probably will never forget due to her skills and looks.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 31, 2020, 08:05:20 AM

Women's cricket has only the fraction of the popularity that the men's game enjoy right now. Hardly anyone attend the women's matches in the subcontinent. In countries such as Australia, New Zealand and England, they have managed to build small but loyal fan armies for the women's national teams.

I don't think this will ever change. The gap between both will always be huge just like other sports such as Soccer etc. However, interest is slowly rising thanks to domestic competitions.

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Quote from: n0ne on December 31, 2020, 07:13:46 AM

We all discussing about the awards got by the men cricketers. We need to take into conversation about the ICC Female Cricketers. Ellyse Perry making a clean sweep grabbing awards on the three categories is really a big achievement. ICC Cricketer of the Decade, ICC Women's ODI Player of the Decade and Women's T20I Player of the Decade.

Women's cricket has only the fraction of the popularity that the men's game enjoy right now. Hardly anyone attend the women's matches in the subcontinent. In countries such as Australia, New Zealand and England, they have managed to build small but loyal fan armies for the women's national teams. And the WBBL has been the biggest push for the women's game, for the last two decades. It has grown in popularity, and has become even bigger than the women's world cup.

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