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Quote from: eaLiTy on July 10, 2020, 12:53:56 PM

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Yeah, 99% chances (Without spectators; question is where?). I have mentioned numerous times that IPL is first priority for BCCI because its their lifeline. They don't have any other choice, so only 1% chance of cancellation. The way i see it, BCCI waiting for official confirmation from the ICC in regards of T-20 World Cup cancellation. Once they cancel WC, then we can expect some quick action from the BCCI.

I might be dead wrong on my calculation when giving % number in favor of IPL/BCCI here but that's make sense to me right now when i look at the big picture.

I think the sole problem isn't spectator but the teams and support staff too. We have 8 teams with roaster of 20 players each and followed by support staff and few managers from franchises. Even if they decide to keep it in just one city like Mumbai. Still accommodating so many players within a city can be cumbersome. And not to forget that foreign players would have to undergo a long quarantine. I think all the players would be kept in complete isolation for complete series. So all this doesn't makes sense as per current protocols. But yes it's thousands of crores at stake. I won't be surprised if BCCI gets ready to fight with Government too on this issue.

When $500 Millions at stake then anything is possible all they have to do is invest bit more in logistics and safety of players, which they are already aware of and its very much doable IMO. As far as i know Center gov doesn't have much say in it as they already issued a multiple guideline when they unlocked the lock down (except opening Intl air route, BCCI is capable to hire private jets for personal use) so its all comes down to state gov. BCCI would like to see IPL going ahead in India but their first choice is UAE and UAE seems eager to host IPL season. I would like to see IPL in Sri Lanka as its economical good option but UAE is okay too.

Quote from: teosanru on July 10, 2020, 05:51:56 AM

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There is a major problem in having a quick turn around even when the ICC cancels the world cup to resume the IPL, the players are at home for months and they need around a month to prepare to get back to peak fitness and match practice to get to international standards. I would like to see transparency from ICC on what they are planning to do and how much money they wanted to risk by conducting the matches during pandemic or take it safely but extending the series.

Not sure what exactly you meant by transparency... ICC earns from the ICC tournaments mainly ( world cup is about to cancel)
As far as WTC is concern ICC is working on something, Bangladesh board already raised this issue "extending the WTC" and couple of other cricket boards gave green light to this debate so its work in progress.

England and Windies playing against each others, this test series is part of WTC so ICC monitoring it as usual. Pakistan is waiting for their turn and they are already camping in England.

Asia cup cancellation decision came from ACC, ICC doesn't has any say.

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But yes it's thousands of crores at stake. I won't be surprised if BCCI gets ready to fight with Government too on this issue.

Prodigal son who turns investments 1000s of times is the secretary. Papa is the Home minister. I don't think if they try to go ahead with it, BCCI is gonna need to "fight" the government. Of course, they will make a show out of it so the news channels have something to talk about. For bending public opinion, we have the famed whatsapp army, which btw, is busy making self-goals these days when it comes to pissing off Nepali citizens.

Politics aside, i think they can go ahead with it anytime they want. Its just that most of the "celebrity owners" are probably not on-board considering the conditions in Mumbai and potential loss of investments as the stadiums won't feel. There is the player fees, auction money, advertisement etc that has to be taken care of. IPL runs really close to the entertainment industry and it is in shambles right now.

Everything depends on whether these stakeholders can turn a profit. From the general perception of the Indian public, it can be safely assumed that very few people would like to go out in a crowd of 60,000 in the stadiums. There is no business case for IPL, even if we count the viewing rights.

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Quote from: teosanru on July 10, 2020, 08:35:38 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 10, 2020, 07:12:20 AM

I can't control my laughter after seeing BCCI trying so hard to have an IPL this year. The BCCI came up with the IPL, only because they wanted to destroy the Indian Cricket League (ICL). If the Zee Entertainment Enterprises had not came up with the ICL, then the BCCI would have never considered to launch a franchise league of their own. Now the IPL has grown bigger than any other cricket tournament.

I don't think it's 100% true. I mean yes BCCI might have got some inspiration from ICL but saying that there would have been no IPL if no ICL that is wrong. Cricket took this franchise based league idea actually from football. They could never do this earlier because of 50 over format, but introduction of twenty over game made this idea a reality. But yes that being said BCCI are trying their best to ensure this revenue comes to their pocket this year. Who knows they decide to do two IPLs next year. IPLs are even more profiteer than World Cup. LOL.

Well said brother. I'm agreed with you. I think BCCI is trying hard to organizing an IPL in this year only for revenue. You know that BCCI earn a rich amount of revenue from IPL sponsors and advertisements. they don't want to lose this handsome amount of money. so, they want to organize IPL in this year hardly. but I don't think that BCCI wants to destroy the Indian cricket league.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 10, 2020, 07:12:20 AM

The way i see it, BCCI waiting for official confirmation from the ICC in regards of T-20 World Cup cancellation. Once they cancel WC, then we can expect some quick action from the BCCI.
I might be dead wrong on my calculation when giving % number in favor of IPL/BCCI here but that's make sense to me right now when i look at the big picture.

There is a major problem in having a quick turn around even when the ICC cancels the world cup to resume the IPL, the players are at home for months and they need around a month to prepare to get back to peak fitness and match practice to get to international standards. I would like to see transparency from ICC on what they are planning to do and how much money they wanted to risk by conducting the matches during pandemic or take it safely but extending the series.

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I can't control my laughter after seeing BCCI trying so hard to have an IPL this year. The BCCI came up with the IPL, only because they wanted to destroy the Indian Cricket League (ICL). If the Zee Entertainment Enterprises had not came up with the ICL, then the BCCI would have never considered to launch a franchise league of their own. Now the IPL has grown bigger than any other cricket tournament.

I don't think it's 100% true. I mean yes BCCI might have got some inspiration from ICL but saying that there would have been no IPL if no ICL that is wrong. Cricket took this franchise based league idea actually from football. They could never do this earlier because of 50 over format, but introduction of twenty over game made this idea a reality. But yes that being said BCCI are trying their best to ensure this revenue comes to their pocket this year. Who knows they decide to do two IPLs next year. IPLs are even more profiteer than World Cup. LOL.

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I can't control my laughter after seeing BCCI trying so hard to have an IPL this year. The BCCI came up with the IPL, only because they wanted to destroy the Indian Cricket League (ICL). If the Zee Entertainment Enterprises had not came up with the ICL, then the BCCI would have never considered to launch a franchise league of their own. Now the IPL has grown bigger than any other cricket tournament.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on July 10, 2020, 05:13:36 AM

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UAE also got decent amount of corona cases but they are good at controlling by giving good regulations but still Do you believe that it is possible to host IPL 2020 successfully?

Honestly I already lost the hope of watching IPL for this year, now the whole country is afraid of covid 19 effect in the near future.

Yeah, 99% chances (Without spectators; question is where?). I have mentioned numerous times that IPL is first priority for BCCI because its their lifeline. They don't have any other choice, so only 1% chance of cancellation. The way i see it, BCCI waiting for official confirmation from the ICC in regards of T-20 World Cup cancellation. Once they cancel WC, then we can expect some quick action from the BCCI.

I might be dead wrong on my calculation when giving % number in favor of IPL/BCCI here but that's make sense to me right now when i look at the big picture.

I think the sole problem isn't spectator but the teams and support staff too. We have 8 teams with roaster of 20 players each and followed by support staff and few managers from franchises. Even if they decide to keep it in just one city like Mumbai. Still accommodating so many players within a city can be cumbersome. And not to forget that foreign players would have to undergo a long quarantine. I think all the players would be kept in complete isolation for complete series. So all this doesn't makes sense as per current protocols. But yes it's thousands of crores at stake. I won't be surprised if BCCI gets ready to fight with Government too on this issue.

Quote from: UmerIdrees on July 09, 2020, 08:42:02 AM

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UAE also got decent amount of corona cases but they are good at controlling by giving good regulations but still Do you believe that it is possible to host IPL 2020 successfully?

Honestly I already lost the hope of watching IPL for this year, now the whole country is afraid of covid 19 effect in the near future.

Yeah, 99% chances (Without spectators; question is where?). I have mentioned numerous times that IPL is first priority for BCCI because its their lifeline. They don't have any other choice, so only 1% chance of cancellation. The way i see it, BCCI waiting for official confirmation from the ICC in regards of T-20 World Cup cancellation. Once they cancel WC, then we can expect some quick action from the BCCI.

I might be dead wrong on my calculation when giving % number in favor of IPL/BCCI here but that's make sense to me right now when i look at the big picture.

Just in ... Asia Cup is cancelled, says Ganguly
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This is really sad to know that finally Asia cup is cancelled and now it will be held in 2022 in Pakistan. All this is being done to make the IPL possible as Asia cup schedule was conflicting with the IPL. If Asia Cup 2020 postponed due to Covid-19, there should be no way PSL or IPL could take place at the same time.

Yeah, No Asia cup this year. saw some confirmed news of cancellation as well, now they are looking at 2021 Asia cup in Sri lanka. We could argue if its ethical or not but fact is everything comes down at revenue so its shouldn't be that surprising.

2020 is the worst year for sports almost all tournaments are either getting canceled or getting postponed. Already six months have passed in this dreadful year and every day you only are hearing is bad news. I am skeptical, whether it will be possible to conduct Asia cup in 2021 if the pandemic situation is not controlled by that time.

haha don't forget the Olympics. That's the biggest thing that has faced a cancellation this year. I feel pity for these people as they actually do a very long training to participate in this tournament.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on July 09, 2020, 08:42:02 AM

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UAE also got decent amount of corona cases but they are good at controlling by giving good regulations but still Do you believe that it is possible to host IPL 2020 successfully?

Honestly I already lost the hope of watching IPL for this year, now the whole country is afraid of covid 19 effect in the near future.

Yeah, 99% chances (Without spectators; question is where?). I have mentioned numerous times that IPL is first priority for BCCI because its their lifeline. They don't have any other choice, so only 1% chance of cancellation. The way i see it, BCCI waiting for official confirmation from the ICC in regards of T-20 World Cup cancellation. Once they cancel WC, then we can expect some quick action from the BCCI.

I might be dead wrong on my calculation when giving % number in favor of IPL/BCCI here but that's make sense to me right now when i look at the big picture.

Just in ... Asia Cup is cancelled, says Ganguly
~edited out~

This is really sad to know that finally Asia cup is cancelled and now it will be held in 2022 in Pakistan. All this is being done to make the IPL possible as Asia cup schedule was conflicting with the IPL. If Asia Cup 2020 postponed due to Covid-19, there should be no way PSL or IPL could take place at the same time.

Yeah, No Asia cup this year. saw some confirmed news of cancellation as well, now they are looking at 2021 Asia cup in Sri lanka. We could argue if its ethical or not but fact is everything comes down at revenue so its shouldn't be that surprising.

2020 is the worst year for sports almost all tournaments are either getting canceled or getting postponed. Already six months have passed in this dreadful year and every day you only are hearing is bad news. I am skeptical, whether it will be possible to conduct Asia cup in 2021 if the pandemic situation is not controlled by that time.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on July 09, 2020, 08:42:02 AM

~snip~

UAE also got decent amount of corona cases but they are good at controlling by giving good regulations but still Do you believe that it is possible to host IPL 2020 successfully?

Honestly I already lost the hope of watching IPL for this year, now the whole country is afraid of covid 19 effect in the near future.

Yeah, 99% chances (Without spectators; question is where?). I have mentioned numerous times that IPL is first priority for BCCI because its their lifeline. They don't have any other choice, so only 1% chance of cancellation. The way i see it, BCCI waiting for official confirmation from the ICC in regards of T-20 World Cup cancellation. Once they cancel WC, then we can expect some quick action from the BCCI.

I might be dead wrong on my calculation when giving % number in favor of IPL/BCCI here but that's make sense to me right now when i look at the big picture.

Just in ... Asia Cup is cancelled, says Ganguly
~edited out~

This is really sad to know that finally Asia cup is cancelled and now it will be held in 2022 in Pakistan. All this is being done to make the IPL possible as Asia cup schedule was conflicting with the IPL. If Asia Cup 2020 postponed due to Covid-19, there should be no way PSL or IPL could take place at the same time.

Yeah, No Asia cup this year. saw some confirmed news of cancellation as well, now they are looking at 2021 Asia cup in Sri lanka. We could argue if its ethical or not but fact is everything comes down at revenue so its shouldn't be that surprising.

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Just in ... Asia Cup is cancelled, says Ganguly
Asia cup is cancelled, surprisingly this news didn't came from the ACC (Asian cricket council) but Sourav Ganguly during Instagram chat. ACC's meeting is tomorrow (9th July) Roll Eyes

This is really sad to know that finally Asia cup is cancelled and now it will be held in 2022 in Pakistan. All this is being done to make the IPL possible as Asia cup schedule was conflicting with the IPL. If Asia Cup 2020 postponed due to Covid-19, there should be no way PSL or IPL could take place at the same time.

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Just in ... Asia Cup is cancelled, says Ganguly
Asia cup is cancelled, surprisingly this news didn't came from the ACC (Asian cricket council) but Sourav Ganguly during Instagram chat. ACC's meeting is tomorrow (9th July) Roll Eyes

Its not a wonder because India is sitting at the top 3 in the world in number of corona cases and there is a research from experts says India will face the worse situation of corona in 2021 if vaccine is not found at that time everyday there will be 2.97 new active corona cases will be recorded. Huh

You are right about cases in India but context is different because India didn't had hosting rights for Asia Cup.

Pakistan has a hosting rights for 2020 season and it was supposed to take place in Pakistan but BCCI declined to Pakistan due to obvious reasons and agreed to participate only if there is a neutral location, PCB knew that already so it was mutually decided that UAE will host the tournament.

But covid-19 changed the scenario and WC is about to cancel anytime now (according to ICC + CA). BCCI eyeing on every opportunity to start IPL 2020 so it was obvious choice for them to lobbying and influence the verdict on Asia Cup.

PS : UAE is also front runner to host IPL 2020.

UAE also got decent amount of corona cases but they are good at controlling by giving good regulations but still Do you believe that it is possible to host IPL 2020 successfully?

Honestly I already lost the hope of watching IPL for this year, now the whole country is afraid of covid 19 effect in the near future.

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Quote from: akram143 on July 09, 2020, 01:05:08 AM

Just in ... Asia Cup is cancelled, says Ganguly
Asia cup is cancelled, surprisingly this news didn't came from the ACC (Asian cricket council) but Sourav Ganguly during Instagram chat. ACC's meeting is tomorrow (9th July) Roll Eyes

Its not a wonder because India is sitting at the top 3 in the world in number of corona cases and there is a research from experts says India will face the worse situation of corona in 2021 if vaccine is not found at that time everyday there will be 2.97 new active corona cases will be recorded. Huh

You are right about cases in India but context is different because India didn't had hosting rights for Asia Cup.

Pakistan has a hosting rights for 2020 season and it was supposed to take place in Pakistan but BCCI declined to Pakistan due to obvious reasons and agreed to participate only if there is a neutral location, PCB knew that already so it was mutually decided that UAE will host the tournament.

But covid-19 changed the scenario and WC is about to cancel anytime now (according to ICC + CA). BCCI eyeing on every opportunity to start IPL 2020 so it was obvious choice for them to lobbying and influence the verdict on Asia Cup.

PS : UAE is also front runner to host IPL 2020.

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Just in ... Asia Cup is cancelled, says Ganguly
Asia cup is cancelled, surprisingly this news didn't came from the ACC (Asian cricket council) but Sourav Ganguly during Instagram chat. ACC's meeting is tomorrow (9th July) Roll Eyes

Its not a wonder because India is sitting at the top 3 in the world in number of corona cases and there is a research from experts says India will face the worse situation of corona in 2021 if vaccine is not found at that time everyday there will be 2.97 new active corona cases will be recorded. Huh

That is correct as the second most populated country in the world India will be the worst hit by this virus. They do not have the infrastructure to support such a large population and most states are breaking the daily covid19 reporting records. Good news is that a vaccine has completed the first level of trial and the government agencies are trying to get it released by next month.

I am not sure how they will do it but hopefully by the end of this year they should have a vaccine.

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