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Quote from: JSRAW on June 22, 2020, 08:07:31 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 22, 2020, 11:45:17 AM

Those who are interested in the future of Sri Lankan cricket, please answer my questions:

1. Why the SLCB is never staging any international matches outside the Colombo-Galle area. Why no matches in the Tamil dominated Eastern and Northern province?

2. Why there are zero Sri Lankan Tamils in the domestic competition? (Muttiah Muralitharan was not a SL Tamil, he was an Estate Tamil).

3. Why there is so much resistance in spreading cricket to cities other than Colombo and Galle?

4. Why cricketers from rural districts need to come to Colombo to pursue their career? Why no facility is available for them in the tier-2 cities?

5. Why the SLCB continues to be controlled by the Sri Lankan government?

I don't know much details so i am not sure if all of the questions you raised are thought provoking. Consider me as an ignorant reader in this matter. Good effort from your side to highlight questions which seems important according to you and will wait for your explanation.

Out of s-merit, will send some later...

I am not from Sri Lanka, and therefore I have limited understanding of the subject. But I am a victim of ethnic cleansing and when I hear about these issues, it makes me upset. My family became refugees in 1998 and therefore I can understand what happened in Sri Lanka during the civil war.

Here are my answers, and I hope I am not too far off from the reality.

1. Colombo is the financial capital and most of the cricketing structure is concentrated there. SLCB tried to stage some matches in cities such as Dambulla, but the efforts were not very fruitful.

2. Perhaps cricket remains a sport of the privileged elite in Sri Lanka.

3. May be it is not profitable. Or may be the SLCB is simply not interested.

4. Perhaps the Colombo clubs don't want to lose their power.

5. This is the case with most of the South Asian boards.

Perhaps someone from Sri Lanka can answer in a better way.

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Quote from: Haunebu on June 23, 2020, 02:15:09 AM

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Kohli and Smith will probably continue ruling the next decade since they are basically Ronaldo and Messi of the Cricket world these days. Upcoming stars like Gill could shine if they are given proper chances.

Ronaldo and Messi are on a different league altogether in terms of money they earn through sports and the popularity they have globally, you cannot expect people from Europe who does not follow cricket knows Kohli or Smith but anyone who is not even following Soccer does know the name Ronaldo and Messi as they are much bigger in terms of popularity and they are the real global superstars Tongue

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As JSRAW pointed for any of these players to continue for the next decade is impossible, enjoy the time when these legendary players play the game and cherish these moments.

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Quote from: Haunebu on June 23, 2020, 02:15:09 AM

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Kohli and Smith will probably continue ruling the next decade since they are basically Ronaldo and Messi of the Cricket world these days. Upcoming stars like Gill could shine if they are given proper chances.

Both are 31 yo so IMO they might play till next world cup (2023) then retirement from the limited over cricket and focus completely on the Test cricket (including IPL).

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on June 22, 2020, 03:25:17 PM

Get introduced to new talents of cricket world: 20 cricketers for the 2020s. It is an interesting article from cricket monthly

Whoever wrote this article put in a ton of effort into researching these new players and I respect that effort, but I haven't heard of 90% of these players. Shaw and Shubman are the only 2 that I have heard of with tons of potential.

Kohli and Smith will probably continue ruling the next decade since they are basically Ronaldo and Messi of the Cricket world these days. Upcoming stars like Gill could shine if they are given proper chances.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 22, 2020, 11:45:17 AM

Those who are interested in the future of Sri Lankan cricket, please answer my questions:

1. Why the SLCB is never staging any international matches outside the Colombo-Galle area. Why no matches in the Tamil dominated Eastern and Northern province?

2. Why there are zero Sri Lankan Tamils in the domestic competition? (Muttiah Muralitharan was not a SL Tamil, he was an Estate Tamil).

3. Why there is so much resistance in spreading cricket to cities other than Colombo and Galle?

4. Why cricketers from rural districts need to come to Colombo to pursue their career? Why no facility is available for them in the tier-2 cities?

5. Why the SLCB continues to be controlled by the Sri Lankan government?

I don't know much details so i am not sure if all of the questions you raised are thought provoking. Consider me as an ignorant reader in this matter. Good effort from your side to highlight questions which seems important according to you and will wait for your explanation.

Out of s-merit, will send some later...

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on June 22, 2020, 03:25:17 PM

Who are all going to dominate the cricket arena in next 10 or more years. I guess people like Kane Williamson, Joe Root, Virat Kohli, SMPD Smith are still capable of dominating for another 5 to 8 years hence what are the chances for those listed new people to flourish by competing against current players?

Do you follow any of these young talents already? Who are they? I checked the list but except 1 or 2, most others are new to me.

The first step to groom a young talent is not by comparing with established players and putting more pressure on them as it will break them, i am sure we will see many new talents and i am aware of Prithvi Shaw, Haider Ali, Gerald Coetzee, Ollie Pope, Kartik Tyagi, Noor Ahmad, Shubman Gill as mentioned in the article and there are other players like Kamlesh Nagarkoti, Shivam Mavi and Ishan Porel who could take the bowling mantle for India in the future.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on June 22, 2020, 03:25:17 PM

Who are all going to dominate the cricket arena in next 10 or more years. I guess people like Kane Williamson, Joe Root, Virat Kohli, SMPD Smith are still capable of dominating for another 5 to 8 years hence what are the chances for those listed new people to flourish by competing against current players?

The domination depends upon the fitness level and the level of consistancy they will showcase and the players like Kane Williamson Joe Root Virat Kohli and Smith have shown consistancy throughout the years and if they could guide the young players while they are playing then it would help the young players tremendously to build their career.

Quote from: TheGreatPython on June 22, 2020, 03:25:17 PM

Do you follow any of these young talents already? Who are they? I checked the list but except 1 or 2, most others are new to me.

All of the players are new to me and hopefully they will fullfill the promise they showcased in their short career and hopefully we will hear more about these players in the next few years.

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Get introduced to new talents of cricket world: 20 cricketers for the 2020s. It is an interesting article from cricket monthly; I am sorry for the people who had already come across this but I just thought it may be found interesting for some other people who yet to come across it.

Who are all going to dominate the cricket arena in next 10 or more years. I guess people like Kane Williamson, Joe Root, Virat Kohli, SMPD Smith are still capable of dominating for another 5 to 8 years hence what are the chances for those listed new people to flourish by competing against current players?

Do you follow any of these young talents already? Who are they? I checked the list but except 1 or 2, most others are new to me.

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Quote from: Haunebu on June 22, 2020, 01:21:18 PM

Came across these crazy articles guys.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.outlookindia.com/website/amp/sports-news-fans-mourn-death-of-cricketer-mohammad-irfan-read-pakistan-bowlers-hard-hitting-message/355221

Unbelievable. News outlets actually made me believe for a second that Mohammed Irfan passed away. These idiots are spreading such baseless rumors during these troubling times and the worst thing is that PCB also thought the same. Irfan himself had to quash the rumors personally.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/sports.ndtv.com/cricket/three-pakistan-cricketers-test-positive-for-coronavirus-says-pakistan-cricket-board-2250477%3famp=1&akamai-rum=off

Above link talks about more Pakistan players getting infected. Shadab, Haris and Haider have been added to the list. I feel like many Pakistan players aren't following the rules properly due to which they contracted the virus.

Few idiots just enjoying with these rumours Irfan is OK and enjoying and about other players not confirmed as we can hope we will have some news about them in next few days as Paksitani team is ready for England tour even few players are not happy with this all but they are going to play.

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Came across these crazy articles guys.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.outlookindia.com/website/amp/sports-news-fans-mourn-death-of-cricketer-mohammad-irfan-read-pakistan-bowlers-hard-hitting-message/355221

Unbelievable. News outlets actually made me believe for a second that Mohammed Irfan passed away. These idiots are spreading such baseless rumors during these troubling times and the worst thing is that PCB also thought the same. Irfan himself had to quash the rumors personally.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/sports.ndtv.com/cricket/three-pakistan-cricketers-test-positive-for-coronavirus-says-pakistan-cricket-board-2250477%3famp=1&akamai-rum=off

Above link talks about more Pakistan players getting infected. Shadab, Haris and Haider have been added to the list. I feel like many Pakistan players aren't following the rules properly due to which they contracted the virus.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 22, 2020, 11:45:17 AM

Those who are interested in the future of Sri Lankan cricket, please answer my questions:
1. Why the SLCB is never staging any international matches outside the Colombo-Galle area. Why no matches in the Tamil dominated Eastern and Northern province?

2. Why there are zero Sri Lankan Tamils in the domestic competition? (Muttiah Muralitharan was not a SL Tamil, he was an Estate Tamil).

Why the race card in sports, if there is an exceptional talent they will find a way either in or out of the country.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 22, 2020, 11:45:17 AM

3. Why there is so much resistance in spreading cricket to cities other than Colombo and Galle?

The infracture needs money and from where they will raise the amount and if it was that easy why the resistance.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 22, 2020, 11:45:17 AM

4. Why cricketers from rural districts need to come to Colombo to pursue their career? Why no facility is available for them in the tier-2 cities?

Is it not the situation in every country where you need to move to the place where the major training facility is located

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 22, 2020, 11:45:17 AM

5. Why the SLCB continues to be controlled by the Sri Lankan government?

Pakistan cricket board is controlled by government if i am not mistaken and so does BCCI as they follow what the government orders.

For any sport to develop and produce talents the authority needs to go to the grassroot level to coach the young talents and conduct tournament to showcase their skills and thereby getting selected in the domestic setup and if they perform well then getting selected in the national teams and if they lack the vision then those countries will fall back.

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Those who are interested in the future of Sri Lankan cricket, please answer my questions:

1. Why the SLCB is never staging any international matches outside the Colombo-Galle area. Why no matches in the Tamil dominated Eastern and Northern province?

2. Why there are zero Sri Lankan Tamils in the domestic competition? (Muttiah Muralitharan was not a SL Tamil, he was an Estate Tamil).

3. Why there is so much resistance in spreading cricket to cities other than Colombo and Galle?

4. Why cricketers from rural districts need to come to Colombo to pursue their career? Why no facility is available for them in the tier-2 cities?

5. Why the SLCB continues to be controlled by the Sri Lankan government?

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If i have to make a guess on Srilankan's team current situation then i would say that they messed up pretty bad for one reason.

Transition period : Every team goes through this period when senior players or so called legends takes retirement. India, Australia, NZ or in some extent England got lucky but Sri lanka, Pakistan, South Africa not much. Senior players and management of Srilanka failed to groom new players at every front. Corrupt board didn't help their cause as it directly effected their domestic cricket.

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Quote from: Indymoney on June 18, 2020, 06:41:35 PM

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I am feeling this is not serious issue in Sri Lanka as politics is too much involved in cricket board and we have history of many personal issues and statements like this hopefully they will not take this serious and this all stupidity will end soon as or media will hilight as we have lock down and not other things to talk.

In my view if you are holding a position of power you should not spread rumors without any evidence and put the team under fire and that is what happened here, the sports minister is claiming that the players let go of the World Cup which means the team lost the match because they took money to loose the match which is a serious allegation. I understand that the minister just want to create some stupid sensation like every other politician.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 21, 2020, 08:12:13 AM

Quote from: Juggy777 on June 21, 2020, 07:59:48 AM

@Mersal while there’s no doubt about the quality those two added to the Srilankan Cricket team, but I feel the discussion here is relating to the current Srilankan team, which unfortunately doesn’t have top class player’s in their squad. It’s also pertinent to note that Muttiah Muralitharan had acknowledged this fact that the current Srilankan team doesn’t have quality player’s, and he further believed that these days all Srilankan player’s care is about making money, and hence they’re less focused on performing in international cricket matches.

Sri Lanka is a cricket crazy nation, but the problem is that they have a smaller population when compared to India or Pakistan. However, the biggest issue in my opinion is the lack of a proper domestic set up. Domestic cricket in Sri Lanka consists of a few cricket clubs playing against each other. There is no State/Province based teams. And this means that outside Colombo, and to a limited extent some of the other cities, there is no proper domestic setup.

Politics plays major role in cricket selection that is why talents got skipped, there maybe a unknown player in domestic level but people who got the power keep them unknown for some reasons.But in India IPl played major role in finding new talents in the recent times and this year we got no luck to see more new players. Embarrassed

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Quote from: Juggy777 on June 21, 2020, 07:59:48 AM

@Mersal while there’s no doubt about the quality those two added to the Srilankan Cricket team, but I feel the discussion here is relating to the current Srilankan team, which unfortunately doesn’t have top class player’s in their squad. It’s also pertinent to note that Muttiah Muralitharan had acknowledged this fact that the current Srilankan team doesn’t have quality player’s, and he further believed that these days all Srilankan player’s care is about making money, and hence they’re less focused on performing in international cricket matches.

Sri Lanka is a cricket crazy nation, but the problem is that they have a smaller population when compared to India or Pakistan. However, the biggest issue in my opinion is the lack of a proper domestic set up. Domestic cricket in Sri Lanka consists of a few cricket clubs playing against each other. There is no State/Province based teams. And this means that outside Colombo, and to a limited extent some of the other cities, there is no proper domestic setup.

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Srilanka team has been morally and physcially down after they have won the last and single worldcup in the history. Since that time, the players are not upto that performance mark and their performance is on the decline just like West Indies team.

I disagree with that. After the winning of 1996 word cup Sri Lanka was a team who dominated the world cricket for the next few years. Yes, from last one decade they could not perform well. Maybe it's because they were not able to produce players like Muralidharan, Chaminda Vaas etc.

We can't say SL didn't find good talents, there are two legends called Mahela Jayavardne and Kumar Sangakara who played really well to keep their stats up to the top level but they also got retired now they got talents but have less experience which makes them to be in pressure while handling tough situations that is the place SL cricket board did mistakes...

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 21, 2020, 07:02:12 AM

As per your opinion, how many players are there in the current Sri Lankan squad, who can be termed as legends? Back in 1996, they had quite a few including Muttiah Muralitharan, Sanath Jayasuriya, Aravinda de Silva, Arjuna Ranatunga, Roshan Mahanama and Chaminda Vaas. Even during the first decade of 2000, they had legends in their squad, such as Kumar Sangakkara and Lasith Malinga. But the same can't be said about the current squad.

@Mersal while there’s no doubt about the quality those two added to the Srilankan Cricket team, but I feel the discussion here is relating to the current Srilankan team, which unfortunately doesn’t have top class player’s in their squad. It’s also pertinent to note that Muttiah Muralitharan had acknowledged this fact that the current Srilankan team doesn’t have quality player’s, and he further believed that these days all Srilankan player’s care is about making money, and hence they’re less focused on performing in international cricket matches.

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Sri Lankan cricket has hit an all-time nadir and the legendary Muttiah Muralitharan blames it on the paucity of talent coupled with lack of passion among the current generation of cricketers for this steady decline.

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https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/the-decline-of-sri-lankan-cricket-saddens-me-muttiah-muralitharan/story-67hza0cdl1M5iisef0E7FJ.html

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on June 21, 2020, 05:27:35 AM

Quote from: FIFA worldcup on June 21, 2020, 05:12:36 AM

Srilanka team has been morally and physcially down after they have won the last and single worldcup in the history. Since that time, the players are not upto that performance mark and their performance is on the decline just like West Indies team.

I disagree with that. After the winning of 1996 word cup Sri Lanka was a team who dominated the world cricket for the next few years. Yes, from last one decade they could not perform well. Maybe it's because they were not able to produce players like Muralidharan, Chaminda Vaas etc.

As per your opinion, how many players are there in the current Sri Lankan squad, who can be termed as legends? Back in 1996, they had quite a few including Muttiah Muralitharan, Sanath Jayasuriya, Aravinda de Silva, Arjuna Ranatunga, Roshan Mahanama and Chaminda Vaas. Even during the first decade of 2000, they had legends in their squad, such as Kumar Sangakkara and Lasith Malinga. But the same can't be said about the current squad.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on June 21, 2020, 05:27:35 AM

Quote from: FIFA worldcup on June 21, 2020, 05:12:36 AM

Srilanka team has been morally and physcially down after they have won the last and single worldcup in the history. Since that time, the players are not upto that performance mark and their performance is on the decline just like West Indies team.

I disagree with that. After the winning of 1996 word cup Sri Lanka was a team who dominated the world cricket for the next few years. Yes, from last one decade they could not perform well. Maybe it's because they were not able to produce players like Muralidharan, Chaminda Vaas etc.

We can't say SL didn't find good talents, there are two legends called Mahela Jayavardne and Kumar Sangakara who played really well to keep their stats up to the top level but they also got retired now they got talents but have less experience which makes them to be in pressure while handling tough situations that is the place SL cricket board did mistakes...

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on June 21, 2020, 05:27:35 AM

Quote from: FIFA worldcup on June 21, 2020, 05:12:36 AM

Srilanka team has been morally and physcially down after they have won the last and single worldcup in the history. Since that time, the players are not upto that performance mark and their performance is on the decline just like West Indies team.

I disagree with that. After the winning of 1996 word cup Sri Lanka was a team who dominated the world cricket for the next few years. Yes, from last one decade they could not perform well. Maybe it's because they were not able to produce players like Muralidharan, Chaminda Vaas etc.

There is also too much internal politics, they have very few good players left with them and it is the responsibility of the board to find good talents which I do not think is happening. Srilanka was a very good team that was feared in International tournaments ages ago.

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