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Quote from: pakhitheboss on August 01, 2022, 12:24:53 AM

I think he should retire from one format, just like Ben Stokes. He can then concentrate on his performance on the other format. The other option would be to take a big break from all forms of cricket and then make a comeback. Getting humiliated like this from everyone won't help him at all. BCCI has already started giving him breaks and if he doesn't improve his performance then he might get permanently dropped.

King kohli should be given break long ago but bcci gave him too much chances and he failed everytime. I think it's too early to say he should retire from some formats. He is given a deserving break and he must go back and play domestic cricket, he still have potential to play all formats.

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He should come out of the world of politics and Bollywood. And should focus on improving his cricketing skills. I only think that this is going to be better for his career. In my opinion, they are doing Virat Kohli a favor.

Well said. So many great cricketers messed up their careers by dabbling with politics and movies for the sake of fame and money(Imran Khan etc).

Kohli clearly couldn't handle the pressure as the captain of the Indian team across all formats which ultimately affected his batting skills too. This is why I do agree with what you said about them doing him a favor by giving him a break.

I think he should retire from one format, just like Ben Stokes. He can then concentrate on his performance on the other format. The other option would be to take a big break from all forms of cricket and then make a comeback. Getting humiliated like this from everyone won't help him at all. BCCI has already started giving him breaks and if he doesn't improve his performance then he might get permanently dropped.

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Quote from: minairia3 on July 31, 2022, 01:01:31 PM

He should come out of the world of politics and Bollywood. And should focus on improving his cricketing skills. I only think that this is going to be better for his career. In my opinion, they are doing Virat Kohli a favor.

Well said. So many great cricketers messed up their careers by dabbling with politics and movies for the sake of fame and money(Imran Khan etc).

Kohli clearly couldn't handle the pressure as the captain of the Indian team across all formats which ultimately affected his batting skills too. This is why I do agree with what you said about them doing him a favor by giving him a break.

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Quote from: BALIK on July 31, 2022, 12:09:07 PM

Scotland's players are not experienced. This is their main weakness. If the players in the squad were experienced, their performance would have been better. Scotland could not win despite giving a huge target of 307. Even with at least 2 bowlers in the squad, this match would have been competitive. New Zealand scored 239 runs in 39 overs. They need 68 runs off 66 balls to win

Another highly scoring match between Scotland vs New Zealand after win toss Scotland elected to bat first, and they were on good attack to have good target of 306 in 49.4 overs with the lost of all wickets this score happened just because of new pace attack used by New Zealand in this tour because they are giving rest to their few key players which is good.

After conceding this big score, New Zealand came on crease for batting and their all new batsmen in good touch and have good form which help them to achieve this target easily without any serious trouble with in 45.5 overs and lost of just 3 wickets Mark Chapman who done good 101 on 75 balls with the help of 7 sixes were hero and man of the match for visitors.

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Quote from: BobK71 on July 31, 2022, 02:05:48 PM

We all know that Zimbabwe is a weak team especially when they will play against India. The decision taken by BCCI is admirable because first class cricketer will not play in this match. I believe any Indian squad will beat Zimbabwe. This series is a kind of opportunity for Indian cricketers especially those who are at the lower level. So the Indian team has a chance to make some new additions to their international career through this series.

This is good time for BCCI to have strength their bench power and send completely new team which could be good for these youths as well because playing in different environment going to help them for better future and improving their experience currently West Indies, Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and few associate countries are in bad shape and this is useful for big teams to send their extra players with few experienced for level in quality and improve their youths skills.

As we have very good results in West Indies most chances they will also perform good in Zimbabwe and this will help selectors and players as well for preparing their team for next world cup which is going to play in India in 2023.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on July 31, 2022, 12:08:02 AM

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BCCI has announced their ODI team for Zimbabwe tour. They are again going with 2nd string team and keep testing their bench strength.

Kohli, Bumrah and Shami are taking long break. Rishab, Rohit and Chahal (wasn't necessary) are also rested. KL Rahul still not fit i suppose.

Washington Sundar, Kuldeep Yadav and Deepak Chahar are finally back. Maiden call for Rahul Tripathi in the squad.

Zimbabwe is not that strong team and this series will be a one sided one. Two spinner and one medium pacers added to the squad, spinners can be effective as Zimbabwe doesn't have batters who are good against spinners. Good to know that Rahul Tripathi got a chance. India needs good all-rounder and his performance in this series might get him a permanent berth in the India A team.

We all know that Zimbabwe is a weak team especially when they will play against India. The decision taken by BCCI is admirable because first class cricketer will not play in this match. I believe any Indian squad will beat Zimbabwe. This series is a kind of opportunity for Indian cricketers especially those who are at the lower level. So the Indian team has a chance to make some new additions to their international career through this series.

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Virat Kohli should have been given a chance in the series against Zimbabwe. He has been out of form for three long years.

This is such a bad idea. Everyone asked him to take a long break which is why the BCCI is honouring that. Kohli needs to learn from his recent mistakes in order to improve and move forward.

There is no substitute for Virat Kohli other than taking a break. He has not been performing well for quite a long time. I think we all can agree that a lot of experienced people told him to take a break a long time ago but he did not listen. He is in a deep hole from which it will be very difficult for him to ever come out of unless he changes certain things and certain environments in his life. He should come out of the world of politics and Bollywood. And should focus on improving his cricketing skills. I only think that this is going to be better for his career. In my opinion, they are doing Virat Kohli a favor.

There is good and bad time - sometime good time last for a smaller period of time.
But it's not a bad idea to take a break for sometime and come back fresh or he is an amazing man - an amazing player too. But every player has a golden era and then comes the finishing line.

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 31, 2022, 03:49:12 AM

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Virat Kohli should have been given a chance in the series against Zimbabwe. He has been out of form for three long years.

This is such a bad idea. Everyone asked him to take a long break which is why the BCCI is honouring that. Kohli needs to learn from his recent mistakes in order to improve and move forward.

There is no substitute for Virat Kohli other than taking a break. He has not been performing well for quite a long time. I think we all can agree that a lot of experienced people told him to take a break a long time ago but he did not listen. He is in a deep hole from which it will be very difficult for him to ever come out of unless he changes certain things and certain environments in his life. He should come out of the world of politics and Bollywood. And should focus on improving his cricketing skills. I only think that this is going to be better for his career. In my opinion, they are doing Virat Kohli a favor.

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Quote from: BALIK on July 31, 2022, 12:09:07 PM

Scotland's players are not experienced. This is their main weakness. If the players in the squad were experienced, their performance would have been better. Scotland could not win despite giving a huge target of 307. Even with at least 2 bowlers in the squad, this match would have been competitive. New Zealand scored 239 runs in 39 overs. They need 68 runs off 66 balls to win

Such matches are good for associate teams as they get necessary experience which help them in performing better in icc events. Scotland batting was good but they failed in bowling department. I remember Scotland was good enough in last T20 World cup also.

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Scotland's batting has surprised everyone today. After losing 5 wickets for 107 runs, Scotland scored 306 runs. It is incredible. They batted very well. But Scotland's bowlers are not experienced enough. Even after giving a huge target of 307, their chances of defeat are high. New Zealand scored 126 runs for the loss of 2 wickets in 22.2 overs

With the way the match was progression everyone thought it was a low scoring match, but after loosing the first 5 wickets, Scotland middle and lower order changed the match at a good strike rate and i was worried that New Zealand would loose the match as the players are fairly young in their International career even though they have the batting depth. Hopefully New Zealand would chase this without any hiccup as i do not want to loose my parlay Cheesy

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Scotland's players are not experienced. This is their main weakness. If the players in the squad were experienced, their performance would have been better. Scotland could not win despite giving a huge target of 307. Even with at least 2 bowlers in the squad, this match would have been competitive. New Zealand scored 239 runs in 39 overs. They need 68 runs off 66 balls to win

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Quote from: S A KHAIR on July 31, 2022, 10:54:45 AM

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Scotland's batting has surprised everyone today. After losing 5 wickets for 107 runs, Scotland scored 306 runs. It is incredible. They batted very well. But Scotland's bowlers are not experienced enough. Even after giving a huge target of 307, their chances of defeat are high. New Zealand scored 126 runs for the loss of 2 wickets in 22.2 overs

With the way the match was progression everyone thought it was a low scoring match, but after loosing the first 5 wickets, Scotland middle and lower order changed the match at a good strike rate and i was worried that New Zealand would loose the match as the players are fairly young in their International career even though they have the batting depth. Hopefully New Zealand would chase this without any hiccup as i do not want to loose my parlay Cheesy

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Scotland vs New Zealand

The first ODI match between Scotland and New Zealand is taking place. Scotland won the toss and decided to bat. At the end of 10 overs, their collection is 55/1. Against an experienced team like New Zealand, Scotland started well. If they don't lose wickets too quickly, they will be able to set a target of more than 280 today. However, Scotland's bowling line-up is very weak. I don't think they can win even if they give a target of more than 300.

However, the players of Scotland were able to start the innings quite well. But after losing the second wicket for 69 runs, they lost 5 of their key batsmen within 107 runs. Scotland collected only 110 runs in 26 overs. Their run rate is only 4.2. I guess Scotland's innings will end between 160/180. Before playing the series against top-tier teams, Scotland should host a series with teams like Zimbabwe and Netherlands. They need more improvement

With Michael Leask's excellent batting, Scotland might be able to set a big target. Michael Leask is still unbeaten on 78 off 50 balls. He hit 8 fours and 4 over boundaries. Scotland has already collected 238 runs. If the New Zealand bowlers fail to pick up Michael Leask's wicket, Scotland look set to set a target of over 300 today. Scotland has collected 45 runs in the last 5 overs.

All the Scotland players played very well. Michael Leask was dismissed for 85 off 55 balls. Michael Leask played very well I think. Matthew Cross was dismissed for 53 off 58 balls. Scotland scored 299 runs in 49 overs and they lost 9 wickets. They played a very good game. It seems that if they tried to play a bit more ball, they would have scored more runs in this match.

I enjoyed the game of Scotland vs New Zealand and i saw Scotland is plying so cool and specially Michael Leask played very well. also others players of Scotland is played well but they didn't play as well as Michael Leask. However I enjoy their game a lot and support them.

Scotland's batting has surprised everyone today. After losing 5 wickets for 107 runs, Scotland scored 306 runs. It is incredible. They batted very well. But Scotland's bowlers are not experienced enough. Even after giving a huge target of 307, their chances of defeat are high. New Zealand scored 126 runs for the loss of 2 wickets in 22.2 overs

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Scotland vs New Zealand

The first ODI match between Scotland and New Zealand is taking place. Scotland won the toss and decided to bat. At the end of 10 overs, their collection is 55/1. Against an experienced team like New Zealand, Scotland started well. If they don't lose wickets too quickly, they will be able to set a target of more than 280 today. However, Scotland's bowling line-up is very weak. I don't think they can win even if they give a target of more than 300.

However, the players of Scotland were able to start the innings quite well. But after losing the second wicket for 69 runs, they lost 5 of their key batsmen within 107 runs. Scotland collected only 110 runs in 26 overs. Their run rate is only 4.2. I guess Scotland's innings will end between 160/180. Before playing the series against top-tier teams, Scotland should host a series with teams like Zimbabwe and Netherlands. They need more improvement

With Michael Leask's excellent batting, Scotland might be able to set a big target. Michael Leask is still unbeaten on 78 off 50 balls. He hit 8 fours and 4 over boundaries. Scotland has already collected 238 runs. If the New Zealand bowlers fail to pick up Michael Leask's wicket, Scotland look set to set a target of over 300 today. Scotland has collected 45 runs in the last 5 overs.

All the Scotland players played very well. Michael Leask was dismissed for 85 off 55 balls. Michael Leask played very well I think. Matthew Cross was dismissed for 53 off 58 balls. Scotland scored 299 runs in 49 overs and they lost 9 wickets. They played a very good game. It seems that if they tried to play a bit more ball, they would have scored more runs in this match.

I enjoyed the game of Scotland vs New Zealand and i saw Scotland is plying so cool and specially Michael Leask played very well. also others players of Scotland is played well but they didn't play as well as Michael Leask. However I enjoy their game a lot and support them.

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Scotland vs New Zealand

The first ODI match between Scotland and New Zealand is taking place. Scotland won the toss and decided to bat. At the end of 10 overs, their collection is 55/1. Against an experienced team like New Zealand, Scotland started well. If they don't lose wickets too quickly, they will be able to set a target of more than 280 today. However, Scotland's bowling line-up is very weak. I don't think they can win even if they give a target of more than 300.

However, the players of Scotland were able to start the innings quite well. But after losing the second wicket for 69 runs, they lost 5 of their key batsmen within 107 runs. Scotland collected only 110 runs in 26 overs. Their run rate is only 4.2. I guess Scotland's innings will end between 160/180. Before playing the series against top-tier teams, Scotland should host a series with teams like Zimbabwe and Netherlands. They need more improvement

With Michael Leask's excellent batting, Scotland might be able to set a big target. Michael Leask is still unbeaten on 78 off 50 balls. He hit 8 fours and 4 over boundaries. Scotland has already collected 238 runs. If the New Zealand bowlers fail to pick up Michael Leask's wicket, Scotland look set to set a target of over 300 today. Scotland has collected 45 runs in the last 5 overs.

All the Scotland players played very well. Michael Leask was dismissed for 85 off 55 balls. Michael Leask played very well I think. Matthew Cross was dismissed for 53 off 58 balls. Scotland scored 299 runs in 49 overs and they lost 9 wickets. They played a very good game. It seems that if they tried to play a bit more ball, they would have scored more runs in this match.

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Scotland vs New Zealand

The first ODI match between Scotland and New Zealand is taking place. Scotland won the toss and decided to bat. At the end of 10 overs, their collection is 55/1. Against an experienced team like New Zealand, Scotland started well. If they don't lose wickets too quickly, they will be able to set a target of more than 280 today. However, Scotland's bowling line-up is very weak. I don't think they can win even if they give a target of more than 300.

However, the players of Scotland were able to start the innings quite well. But after losing the second wicket for 69 runs, they lost 5 of their key batsmen within 107 runs. Scotland collected only 110 runs in 26 overs. Their run rate is only 4.2. I guess Scotland's innings will end between 160/180. Before playing the series against top-tier teams, Scotland should host a series with teams like Zimbabwe and Netherlands. They need more improvement

With Michael Leask's excellent batting, Scotland might be able to set a big target. Michael Leask is still unbeaten on 78 off 50 balls. He hit 8 fours and 4 over boundaries. Scotland has already collected 238 runs. If the New Zealand bowlers fail to pick up Michael Leask's wicket, Scotland look set to set a target of over 300 today. Scotland has collected 45 runs in the last 5 overs.

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BCCI has announced their ODI team for Zimbabwe tour. They are again going with 2nd string team and keep testing their bench strength.
Kohli, Bumrah and Shami are taking long break. Rishab, Rohit and Chahal (wasn't necessary) are also rested. KL Rahul still not fit i suppose.
Washington Sundar, Kuldeep Yadav and Deepak Chahar are finally back. Maiden call for Rahul Tripathi in the squad.

Against Zimbabwe, do they need players such as Shikhar Dhawan and Shardul Thakur? Anyway, another chance for Sanju Samson. This should be the last opportunity for him. He has failed at international level and if he can't perform this time as well, then other younger keepers such as Anju and Bharat should be given a chance instead. But good choice of Shikhar as the captain. I have always maintained that he is a much better captain when compared to the other choices such as Rishabh, Rohit and Rahul.

Well they need at least 1 senior player in the squad, hence Dhawan. Next Senior player is Kuldeep Yadav and rest of the squad is pretty new in ODI.

Don't know who is Anju but management looks at Bharat as another future test WK option. Management also trying hard to make Thakur allrounder in limited over cricket that's why he keeps finding place in the squad these days.

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Scotland vs New Zealand

The first ODI match between Scotland and New Zealand is taking place. Scotland won the toss and decided to bat. At the end of 10 overs, their collection is 55/1. Against an experienced team like New Zealand, Scotland started well. If they don't lose wickets too quickly, they will be able to set a target of more than 280 today. However, Scotland's bowling line-up is very weak. I don't think they can win even if they give a target of more than 300.

However, the players of Scotland were able to start the innings quite well. But after losing the second wicket for 69 runs, they lost 5 of their key batsmen within 107 runs. Scotland collected only 110 runs in 26 overs. Their run rate is only 4.2. I guess Scotland's innings will end between 160/180. Before playing the series against top-tier teams, Scotland should host a series with teams like Zimbabwe and Netherlands. They need more improvement

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Scotland vs New Zealand

The first ODI match between Scotland and New Zealand is taking place. Scotland won the toss and decided to bat. At the end of 10 overs, their collection is 55/1. Against an experienced team like New Zealand, Scotland started well. If they don't lose wickets too quickly, they will be able to set a target of more than 280 today. However, Scotland's bowling line-up is very weak. I don't think they can win even if they give a target of more than 300.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 30, 2022, 05:18:57 AM

If a player is not available, how can we count him as a part of the team? The same with players such as Pollard, Russell and Bravo as well. If these players were available for the series, then who knows. The outcome would have been different.

It all comes down to money at the end of the day. Their board is completely corrupt and insists on paying very little which is why so many world-class players like Narine etc decided to focus more on domestic leagues like the IPL when compared to their own international team.

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Virat Kohli should have been given a chance in the series against Zimbabwe. He has been out of form for three long years.

This is such a bad idea. Everyone asked him to take a long break which is why the BCCI is honouring that. Kohli needs to learn from his recent mistakes in order to improve and move forward.

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BCCI has announced their ODI team for Zimbabwe tour. They are again going with 2nd string team and keep testing their bench strength.
Kohli, Bumrah and Shami are taking long break. Rishab, Rohit and Chahal (wasn't necessary) are also rested. KL Rahul still not fit i suppose.
Washington Sundar, Kuldeep Yadav and Deepak Chahar are finally back. Maiden call for Rahul Tripathi in the squad.

Against Zimbabwe, do they need players such as Shikhar Dhawan and Shardul Thakur? Anyway, another chance for Sanju Samson. This should be the last opportunity for him. He has failed at international level and if he can't perform this time as well, then other younger keepers such as Anju and Bharat should be given a chance instead. But good choice of Shikhar as the captain. I have always maintained that he is a much better captain when compared to the other choices such as Rishabh, Rohit and Rahul.

A very good selection from selectors because now it's good time for giving these youngsters chance against team like these West Indies, Zimbabwe and few others those are currently struggling with this all players those already having good success in IPL will gain more international experience which is going to help them for having good chance in next ODI world cup which is going to play in India.

Here they need to do some more work like fix few players for white ball cricket and test team could be also separated because this will cut some load of selectors and players, those will have just one format for giving their best.

Indian domestic is never been ideal which is surely having some trouble for player if they can bring changes there as well as surely it's going to be more good for them because domestic set up can bring more players like IPL for test format.

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