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India VS England (women)
The last match of this ODI series has already started. England won the toss and choose to bowl first. India has already lost 2 wickets for just 15 runs. Mandana is still batting at the moment and I hope she scores more than 50 runs. England would be desperate to win this match as they have already lost the series.

England women's team kept them under pressure from the beginning to the last finishing of the match. As a result, India women's team failed to score good. India lost all wickets for just 169 runs. Beating to England Women's team with such a small score is not an easy task. But everything is possible in cricket. Let's see how far the India women's team can run towards that goal.

There is no consistent performance from the India Women team. After a big win in the previous match, now scoring 169 runs doesn't look to be a fair game from the Indian Women cricketers. This is why India team wasn't able to win against the teams like Australia, New Zealand.

I do agree with you. Indian girls sometimes do show they are lazy in a match but, it doesn't mean anything now. As they have already won the series. If they do lose this match it would mean nothing.

As a teenager I only played once with the opponent team and if we as a team had won then it was the end of story. But, now when the series are best of three. It is good when they won the series rather going for a whitewash.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on September 24, 2022, 05:28:45 AM

India VS England (women)
The last match of this ODI series has already started. England won the toss and choose to bowl first. India has already lost 2 wickets for just 15 runs. Mandana is still batting at the moment and I hope she scores more than 50 runs. England would be desperate to win this match as they have already lost the series.

England women's team kept them under pressure from the beginning to the last finishing of the match. As a result, India women's team failed to score good. India lost all wickets for just 169 runs. Beating to England Women's team with such a small score is not an easy task. But everything is possible in cricket. Let's see how far the India women's team can run towards that goal.

There is no consistent performance from the India Women team. After a big win in the previous match, now scoring 169 runs doesn't look to be a fair game from the Indian Women cricketers. This is why India team wasn't able to win against the teams like Australia, New Zealand.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on September 24, 2022, 05:28:45 AM

India VS England (women)
The last match of this ODI series has already started. England won the toss and choose to bowl first. India has already lost 2 wickets for just 15 runs. Mandana is still batting at the moment and I hope she scores more than 50 runs. England would be desperate to win this match as they have already lost the series.

England women's team kept them under pressure from the beginning to the last finishing of the match. As a result, India women's team failed to score good. India lost all wickets for just 169 runs. Beating to England Women's team with such a small score is not an easy task. But everything is possible in cricket. Let's see how far the India women's team can run towards that goal.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on September 24, 2022, 05:28:45 AM

India VS England (women)
The last match of this ODI series has already started. England won the toss and choose to bowl first. India has already lost 2 wickets for just 15 runs. Mandana is still batting at the moment and I hope she scores more than 50 runs. England would be desperate to win this match as they have already lost the series.

This match is a dead rubber, since India has already won the series. If England manages to win, it will be like a consolation victory for them. Kate Cross looked impressive so far from England, and right now she's having figures of 4-1-8-3. Cross picked up the important wickets of Harmanpreet Kaur, Shafali Verma and Yastika Bhatia. From the other end, Freya Davies is proving to be very expensive. However just now she managed to pick up the wicket of Harleen Deol. India on the backfoot, and are 29/4 after 8.4 overs.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on September 24, 2022, 05:28:45 AM

India VS England (women)
The last match of this ODI series has already started. England won the toss and choose to bowl first. India has already lost 2 wickets for just 15 runs. Mandana is still batting at the moment and I hope she scores more than 50 runs. England would be desperate to win this match as they have already lost the series.

I think India Women runs well but their wickets are not good. If they can't hold the wicket now then India Women will be under a lot of pressure. I think India Women will not play very well in this match. I can imagine that England Women will win this match. But nothing can be said until the match is over. So we have to wait till the end.

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India VS England (women)
The last match of this ODI series has already started. England won the toss and choose to bowl first. India has already lost 2 wickets for just 15 runs. Mandana is still batting at the moment and I hope she scores more than 50 runs. England would be desperate to win this match as they have already lost the series.

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WIPL will give way for more number of cricketers who haven't got fair chance to play for the country. Right now girls interest into cricket is very limited. This is all because of the lack of opportunities they get being a cricketer. Now WIPL will open opportunities for the girls.

In tomorrow's match India Women need to make a whitewash. As in the previous post, the interest over Women cricket is quite high compared to the past and the same makes WIPL a big success.

The fortune of women cricketers is going to be good. If the WIPL is arranged like men, then women from all over the world will get a good opportunity not only in India. In this case, women will be more encouraged to cricket. This is a good initiative that should have been taken a few more years ago. Here women cricket will improve as well as the Cricket Board of India will find a new source income.

I am feeling you are too much excited about this WIPL even right now we have no updates or any details about this all just wait and watch because BCCI is never been creative mind peoples mostly they have ill business mind peoples those are living in early 1990s as not doing things which are happening around the world.

And they are surely having full their deep pockets with IPL money and this WIPL is surely having some concerns for them because they are trying to have profit but in India it's going to be first few editions are not giving them any better revenue or profit which is surely the biggest concern right now, but hopefully they will go ahead with their idea, and we will be able to have this WIPL in 2023 in reality not in only news or on espncricinfo site.

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The good thing is now BCCI taking WIPL seriously, they are about to issue tenders for the media rights etc soon.

Apart from setting up WIPL I'd also like to see if they change venues (Countries, probably SENA -alternate year-) once it gets settled, this would ensure local kids are getting a fair amount of exposure in other conditions too because there is hardly any bilateral cricket available for girls

Financially it doesn't make much sense for the BCCI to host the matches outside India. They will lose massive amounts of gate collection. And the government will also be against the idea, given all the tax revenues and jobs that can be created during the tournament. But one thing is sure for me. Even the BCCI guys will be astounded with the revenues that the WIPL will bring. These oldies are still thinking that women's cricket in India is still stuck in the 1990s. It has moved ahead in lightning speed (even more than the men's game).

If not alternate year then they could do that for like after every 3rd-4th cycle, ofc not in the initial stage. Let's say go locally for the first 3-4 seasons and they start rotating venues after WIPL establishes itself.

On financial issues yeah it won't be profitable but I don't think BCCI atm not looking at profits etc, their goal is to create a self-sustainable model for WIPL. It's a good approach and might take a couple of years.

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I believe that back then it was not the right time for women's IPL. The reason I mention this is because women's cricket was not that popular at the time, to be honest.

The kind of success these girls achieved in 2017-18 points in a different direction that's why I don't buy this narrative.

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Quote from: rojan on September 23, 2022, 08:48:06 PM

Yes, women players have progressed a lot. If women players are given more opportunities, then women players can do better. If we observe, we can see that women players are not far behind the male players. I think the women players are very strong and they will go further. Now almost every country has women players and they are progressing a lot.

One thing that always bothers me is that the interest from women towards cricket remains very low, at least in the South Asian region. Here in India, I have talked to a lot of my female friends, but hardly anyone seems to be interested in cricket. They mostly watch soap operas and shopping programs on TV. I want this attitude to change. But convincing them to watch sports programs over soap operas and serials will be a tough task. Another issue is with icon players. Harmanpreet and Renuka hasn't yet reached a level comparable to Mary Kom and PV Sindhu.

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Quote from: n0ne on September 23, 2022, 10:06:09 AM

WIPL will give way for more number of cricketers who haven't got fair chance to play for the country. Right now girls interest into cricket is very limited. This is all because of the lack of opportunities they get being a cricketer. Now WIPL will open opportunities for the girls.

In tomorrow's match India Women need to make a whitewash. As in the previous post, the interest over Women cricket is quite high compared to the past and the same makes WIPL a big success.

The fortune of women cricketers is going to be good. If the WIPL is arranged like men, then women from all over the world will get a good opportunity not only in India. In this case, women will be more encouraged to cricket. This is a good initiative that should have been taken a few more years ago. Here women cricket will improve as well as the Cricket Board of India will find a new source income.

In the world now, women are finding something good in whatever position they are in. Women are always creating media that is now memorable.In the world of cricket women are now showing a lot of priority and by performing well they are going a long way.But women should be given more importance in the cricket board and they should be given more opportunities.If women are given the same opportunities as men, they will perform better and gain more global recognition.

Yes, women players have progressed a lot. If women players are given more opportunities, then women players can do better. If we observe, we can see that women players are not far behind the male players. I think the women players are very strong and they will go further. Now almost every country has women players and they are progressing a lot.

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The good thing is now BCCI taking WIPL seriously, they are about to issue tenders for the media rights etc soon.
Apart from setting up WIPL I'd also like to see if they change venues (Countries, probably SENA -alternate year-) once it gets settled, this would ensure local kids are getting a fair amount of exposure in other conditions too because there is hardly any bilateral cricket available for girls

I think a big reason why the BCCI is actually considering giving WIPL a chance is that The Indian women have performed really well in recent times. and with the recent win against England in the ODI, the Indian women have proved that they can perform really well against bigger opponents. So I think it is the right time for BCCI to arrange WIPL and set the tempo for the future of women's cricket.

It did play some part but that wasn't the main reason or at least big one.

IMO if that was the case then these girls should've gotten the WIPL back in 2017, when they reached the 50 overs WC Final. Although they lost but they earned the respect back home due to their campaign and people started talking or following the Indian Women team.

BCCI on the other hand was not even trying to get things done and kept making excuses. One can imagine their attitude that they didn't even hand out their WC prize money in a timely manner. According to me, things started moving fast when PCB expressed its desire to start WPCL and it created a lot of pressure on BCCI.

I believe that back then it was not the right time for women's IPL. The reason I mention this is because women's cricket was not that popular at the time, to be honest.

However, at this point in time, the world has already moved on from the longer formats of the game to the shorter formats. In addition to this, women's cricket has also become increasingly popular over the past few years as well. Recently, there have been some problems in men's cricket as well, and people are actually fed up with the whole thing.

Obviously, if good performance is not enough to convince BCCI to even consider a women's IPL, then I believe a bigger revenue is the number one reason why BCCI is even considering a women's IPL right now.

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Quote from: n0ne on September 23, 2022, 10:06:09 AM

WIPL will give way for more number of cricketers who haven't got fair chance to play for the country. Right now girls interest into cricket is very limited. This is all because of the lack of opportunities they get being a cricketer. Now WIPL will open opportunities for the girls.

In tomorrow's match India Women need to make a whitewash. As in the previous post, the interest over Women cricket is quite high compared to the past and the same makes WIPL a big success.

The fortune of women cricketers is going to be good. If the WIPL is arranged like men, then women from all over the world will get a good opportunity not only in India. In this case, women will be more encouraged to cricket. This is a good initiative that should have been taken a few more years ago. Here women cricket will improve as well as the Cricket Board of India will find a new source income.

In the world now, women are finding something good in whatever position they are in. Women are always creating media that is now memorable.In the world of cricket women are now showing a lot of priority and by performing well they are going a long way.But women should be given more importance in the cricket board and they should be given more opportunities.If women are given the same opportunities as men, they will perform better and gain more global recognition.

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Quote from: n0ne on September 23, 2022, 10:06:09 AM

WIPL will give way for more number of cricketers who haven't got fair chance to play for the country. Right now girls interest into cricket is very limited. This is all because of the lack of opportunities they get being a cricketer. Now WIPL will open opportunities for the girls.

In tomorrow's match India Women need to make a whitewash. As in the previous post, the interest over Women cricket is quite high compared to the past and the same makes WIPL a big success.

The fortune of women cricketers is going to be good. If the WIPL is arranged like men, then women from all over the world will get a good opportunity not only in India. In this case, women will be more encouraged to cricket. This is a good initiative that should have been taken a few more years ago. Here women cricket will improve as well as the Cricket Board of India will find a new source income.

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WIPL will give way for more number of cricketers who haven't got fair chance to play for the country. Right now girls interest into cricket is very limited. This is all because of the lack of opportunities they get being a cricketer. Now WIPL will open opportunities for the girls.

In tomorrow's match India Women need to make a whitewash. As in the previous post, the interest over Women cricket is quite high compared to the past and the same makes WIPL a big success.

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Quote from: JSRAW on September 22, 2022, 09:45:32 PM

The good thing is now BCCI taking WIPL seriously, they are about to issue tenders for the media rights etc soon.

Apart from setting up WIPL I'd also like to see if they change venues (Countries, probably SENA -alternate year-) once it gets settled, this would ensure local kids are getting a fair amount of exposure in other conditions too because there is hardly any bilateral cricket available for girls

Financially it doesn't make much sense for the BCCI to host the matches outside India. They will lose massive amounts of gate collection. And the government will also be against the idea, given all the tax revenues and jobs that can be created during the tournament. But one thing is sure for me. Even the BCCI guys will be astounded with the revenues that the WIPL will bring. These oldies are still thinking that women's cricket in India is still stuck in the 1990s. It has moved ahead in lightning speed (even more than the men's game).

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The good thing is now BCCI taking WIPL seriously, they are about to issue tenders for the media rights etc soon.

Apart from setting up WIPL I'd also like to see if they change venues (Countries, probably SENA -alternate year-) once it gets settled, this would ensure local kids are getting a fair amount of exposure in other conditions too because there is hardly any bilateral cricket available for girls

I think a big reason why the BCCI is actually considering giving WIPL a chance is that The Indian women have performed really well in recent times. and with the recent win against England in the ODI, the Indian women have proved that they can perform really well against bigger opponents. So I think it is the right time for BCCI to arrange WIPL and set the tempo for the future of women's cricket.

It did play some part but that wasn't the main reason or at least big one.

IMO if that was the case then these girls should've gotten the WIPL back in 2017, when they reached the 50 overs WC Final. Although they lost but they earned the respect back home due to their campaign and people started talking or following the Indian Women team.

BCCI on the other hand was not even trying to get things done and kept making excuses. One can imagine their attitude that they didn't even hand out their WC prize money in a timely manner. According to me, things started moving fast when PCB expressed its desire to start WPCL and it created a lot of pressure on BCCI.

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I would advise people to give the Indian women cricket team some more time, and not burden them with unnecessary expectations because they’ll need more exposure to perform or even outperform their male counterparts. Furthermore I feel that WIPL will be a huge success, and it’ll totally change Indian woman's cricket team performance’s and I hope that BCCI will not delay it now and launch it soon.

When you see the men's cricket team getting defeated in every tournament and suddenly the women's team starts winning international series obviously the expectation from them would go high. I never expected them to play so well in this international ODI series after their defeat in the T20 series. WIPL success largely depends on the performance of this women's team and at the moment they are flying high.

The Women team is making themselves strong against the top cricketing nations. The ODI series win is a big thing, even in the T20 series India women lost at a small margin. WIPL could've been started long back, but BCCI isn't showing interest for different reasons. The major thing, it might make people loss interest over IPL. Second thing, the board isn't ready to spend on women which is a bad attitude.

Ater more voice out of the people, often we get information that WIPL will be launched soon. Just think, no men cricketer have opened their mouth stating the need of WIPL. This means there is something hidden.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on September 23, 2022, 02:42:42 AM

I would advise people to give the Indian women cricket team some more time, and not burden them with unnecessary expectations because they’ll need more exposure to perform or even outperform their male counterparts. Furthermore I feel that WIPL will be a huge success, and it’ll totally change Indian woman's cricket team performance’s and I hope that BCCI will not delay it now and launch it soon.

When you see the men's cricket team getting defeated in every tournament and suddenly the women's team starts winning international series obviously the expectation from them would go high. I never expected them to play so well in this international ODI series after their defeat in the T20 series. WIPL success largely depends on the performance of this women's team and at the moment they are flying high.

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The way the Indian women's team has been progressing in recent times is truly commendable. Despite losing the T20 series against England, India's women's team has already won the title by winning the first two matches of the ODI series. And their performance in both matches was excellent. Harmanpreeet Kaur batted very well, especially in two matches. Due to his amazing innings, the Indian team was able to defeat the England team very easily. And if this trend continues, the Indian women's team will lead the world in the future.

Their performance in this series was really good, but it will be too early to say that they will dominate women's cricket similar to what their male counterparts do. One of the main reasons why players such as Harmanpreeet are performing this good is due to their participation in franchise leagues around the world. She has participated in both the W100 (Manchester Originals) and the WBBL (Melbourne Renegades, Sydney Thunder). The same can be said about some of the other players in the squad as well.

Well, it is a little too early to say that they are going to be as good as their male counterpart. But with all the problems that are going on in men's cricket, I think they are not very far away. In men's cricket, there are a lot of problems because there is the problem of having a big4. and those for teams trying to hold onto the power that they have over the ICC and not letting the smaller teams play regularly. I think women's cricket is doing quite well right now and even though I don't think women's cricket will also be safe from these types of problems but right now I have hope.

Quote from: JSRAW on September 22, 2022, 09:45:32 PM

The good thing is now BCCI taking WIPL seriously, they are about to issue tenders for the media rights etc soon.

Apart from setting up WIPL I'd also like to see if they change venues (Countries, probably SENA -alternate year-) once it gets settled, this would ensure local kids are getting a fair amount of exposure in other conditions too because there is hardly any bilateral cricket available for girls

I think a big reason why the BCCI is actually considering giving WIPL a chance is that The Indian women have performed really well in recent times. and with the recent win against England in the ODI, the Indian women have proved that they can perform really well against bigger opponents. So I think it is the right time for BCCI to arrange WIPL and set the tempo for the future of women's cricket.

I would advise people to give the Indian women cricket team some more time, and not burden them with unnecessary expectations because they’ll need more exposure to perform or even outperform their male counterparts. Furthermore I feel that WIPL will be a huge success, and it’ll totally change Indian woman's cricket team performance’s and I hope that BCCI will not delay it now and launch it soon.

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The way the Indian women's team has been progressing in recent times is truly commendable. Despite losing the T20 series against England, India's women's team has already won the title by winning the first two matches of the ODI series. And their performance in both matches was excellent. Harmanpreeet Kaur batted very well, especially in two matches. Due to his amazing innings, the Indian team was able to defeat the England team very easily. And if this trend continues, the Indian women's team will lead the world in the future.

Their performance in this series was really good, but it will be too early to say that they will dominate women's cricket similar to what their male counterparts do. One of the main reasons why players such as Harmanpreeet are performing this good is due to their participation in franchise leagues around the world. She has participated in both the W100 (Manchester Originals) and the WBBL (Melbourne Renegades, Sydney Thunder). The same can be said about some of the other players in the squad as well.

Well, it is a little too early to say that they are going to be as good as their male counterpart. But with all the problems that are going on in men's cricket, I think they are not very far away. In men's cricket, there are a lot of problems because there is the problem of having a big4. and those for teams trying to hold onto the power that they have over the ICC and not letting the smaller teams play regularly. I think women's cricket is doing quite well right now and even though I don't think women's cricket will also be safe from these types of problems but right now I have hope.

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The good thing is now BCCI taking WIPL seriously, they are about to issue tenders for the media rights etc soon.

Apart from setting up WIPL I'd also like to see if they change venues (Countries, probably SENA -alternate year-) once it gets settled, this would ensure local kids are getting a fair amount of exposure in other conditions too because there is hardly any bilateral cricket available for girls

I think a big reason why the BCCI is actually considering giving WIPL a chance is that The Indian women have performed really well in recent times. and with the recent win against England in the ODI, the Indian women have proved that they can perform really well against bigger opponents. So I think it is the right time for BCCI to arrange WIPL and set the tempo for the future of women's cricket.

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