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Quote from: jostorres on September 10, 2022, 12:36:53 PM

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New Zealand's performance is not satisfactory. They have lost two matches by a vast distance. They will play the last match of this ODI series tomorrow. In the last match, New Zealand will try to give the maximum effort to win the match. But it will be difficult as Australia are in form at the moment and the players are quite self depended they have the ability to finish from the bottom.

New Zealand's quality is going down badly recently in all formats which is the biggest concern for them at the moment after winning WTC final against India in England now they are consistently losing matches and series and won only against teams like Ireland and West Indies which is surely big concern for them as they need to be aggressive and well skilled for next WTC tenure after going down badly in this season and things are surely wired because they have enough quality bowlers and batsmen as well, but sadly they are not winning matches which is surely mentality which needs to be positive and changed because with current situation they can't do anything positive which is very important for them.

Now in recent time, they have good advantage with native players many South Africans are also migrating for the better future in this game which is surely going to help them with improved quality and better skilled players are very important for them as well.

New Zealand have been performing well in cricket for a long time but in recent times there seems to be some changes in their performance. They are win less in the current series so far. But the cricketing world does not expect such a bad performance from them. Although winning and losing are part of the game, lately their cricket is showing off-form to play.

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Quote from: coinerer on September 10, 2022, 09:13:43 AM

New Zealand's performance is not satisfactory. They have lost two matches by a vast distance. They will play the last match of this ODI series tomorrow. In the last match, New Zealand will try to give the maximum effort to win the match. But it will be difficult as Australia are in form at the moment and the players are quite self depended they have the ability to finish from the bottom.

New Zealand's quality is going down badly recently in all formats which is the biggest concern for them at the moment after winning WTC final against India in England now they are consistently losing matches and series and won only against teams like Ireland and West Indies which is surely big concern for them as they need to be aggressive and well skilled for next WTC tenure after going down badly in this season and things are surely wired because they have enough quality bowlers and batsmen as well, but sadly they are not winning matches which is surely mentality which needs to be positive and changed because with current situation they can't do anything positive which is very important for them.

Now in recent time, they have good advantage with native players many South Africans are also migrating for the better future in this game which is surely going to help them with improved quality and better skilled players are very important for them as well.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 09, 2022, 09:54:05 PM

The next series within the 2020–2023 ICC Cricket World Cup Super League is going to be between India and South Africa (hosted by India). It is going to be extremely important for South Africa. They need to win at least one match to keep their hope of qualification alive (two wins would be even better). After this series, they will be touring Australia for 3 ODIs. So a total of 6 ODIs, and they need at least 3 wins. I am skeptical about this, but given the poor form from Australia, there is a chance. Anyway, we need to wait until March 2023 to find out who will directly qualify for the ODI World Cup.

The problem is South Africa has been way behind from the beginning. There is going to be a lot of difficulty on their part in covering up this lack of performance. I am also skeptical about the performance that South Africa is going to be able to provide. If we look at the upcoming competitions in South Africa, we will see that they will not be facing any easy opponents. There is no doubt that South Africa is a very capable team, but this time it seems like they have their work cut out for them. There is no doubt that they are a capable team that is capable of getting three victories. But against Australia, it is not going to be easy at all.

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Once Australia was a very good team, but they can't play games like they used to. But I think if they still hope to do well then I think it is still possible for them. It will be seen in the match. I think the match will be a tight fight. After the two teams fight, whoever can play better will win the match.

Even now Australia have got good players, but they weren't able to give the consistent performance same as the team under the Captaincy of Australia. Nowadays every team have started to progress well. Coming to the ongoing ODI series against New Zealand, it is already a win for Australia. The third match seems like a win for New Zealand, because they'll try to get out of the whitewash.

New Zealand's performance is not satisfactory. They have lost two matches by a vast distance. They will play the last match of this ODI series tomorrow. In the last match, New Zealand will try to give the maximum effort to win the match. But it will be difficult as Australia are in form at the moment and the players are quite self depended they have the ability to finish from the bottom.

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The next series within the 2020–2023 ICC Cricket World Cup Super League is going to be between India and South Africa (hosted by India). It is going to be extremely important for South Africa. They need to win at least one match to keep their hope of qualification alive (two wins would be even better). After this series, they will be touring Australia for 3 ODIs. So a total of 6 ODIs, and they need at least 3 wins. I am skeptical about this, but given the poor form from Australia, there is a chance. Anyway, we need to wait until March 2023 to find out who will directly qualify for the ODI World Cup.

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Quote from: Theones on September 09, 2022, 07:05:02 PM

lets talk about Afghanistan and Srilanka too

Why do you want to talk about T20Is while this thread is not for T20Is? You are welcome if you want to talk about any ODI match here. A different thread is available for the T20I discussion; you are already aware of that. So, I would suggest not doing such a discussion since there is a more accurate thread for your topic.

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Quote from: Rigon on September 09, 2022, 02:18:32 PM

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I think it is up to me whether New Zealand can do anything like that now. If they try to play a little bit better then they can do it. They will have to struggle a lot for that. But I think batting and bowling both play an equal role in winning a match for a team. I think so. I think Australia and New Zealand are two very strong teams. Both teams have good batting and bowling.

At the moment, New Zealand and Australia teams are almost equal in quality. Both teams have a lot of talented and experienced players. New Zealand lost the first two matches. The main reason for this was the performance of their batsmen was not good. Australia set a target of only 196 runs in the second match. Still New Zealand could not win. If the New Zealand batsmen can play well in the third match, they will win. But if the batsmen are not able to play well in the last match then Australia will win the last match easily. But my guess is that New Zealand will come back in the truck in the last match.

Yes you are right. New Zealand and Australia game will be a very tight fight. I think maybe New Zealand will win this match. Because of that New Zealand players play a bit better. If Australia try to play well then nothing can be said until the match is over. Both teams will try hard to win the match. So we have to wait to see who can win the match.

New Zealand and Australia can perform very well in both teams.We have seen Australia and New Zealand play before but they can put up a great performance.Especially Australia at one time but a lot of discussion and cricket they could shape in their own hands.Currently, Australia may not be as good as it used to be, but still it can perform fairly well But let's see how well they can perform on the field.

lets talk about Afghanistan and Srilanka too
And what has happened after Afghanistan and Pakistan match was very strength - the abuse on the ground and the fight in the stadium was very alarming.

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Quote from: rojan on September 09, 2022, 03:15:47 PM

Once Australia was a very good team, but they can't play games like they used to. But I think if they still hope to do well then I think it is still possible for them. It will be seen in the match. I think the match will be a tight fight. After the two teams fight, whoever can play better will win the match.

Even now Australia have got good players, but they weren't able to give the consistent performance same as the team under the Captaincy of Australia. Nowadays every team have started to progress well. Coming to the ongoing ODI series against New Zealand, it is already a win for Australia. The third match seems like a win for New Zealand, because they'll try to get out of the whitewash.

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Quote from: Rigon on September 09, 2022, 02:18:32 PM

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I think it is up to me whether New Zealand can do anything like that now. If they try to play a little bit better then they can do it. They will have to struggle a lot for that. But I think batting and bowling both play an equal role in winning a match for a team. I think so. I think Australia and New Zealand are two very strong teams. Both teams have good batting and bowling.

At the moment, New Zealand and Australia teams are almost equal in quality. Both teams have a lot of talented and experienced players. New Zealand lost the first two matches. The main reason for this was the performance of their batsmen was not good. Australia set a target of only 196 runs in the second match. Still New Zealand could not win. If the New Zealand batsmen can play well in the third match, they will win. But if the batsmen are not able to play well in the last match then Australia will win the last match easily. But my guess is that New Zealand will come back in the truck in the last match.

Yes you are right. New Zealand and Australia game will be a very tight fight. I think maybe New Zealand will win this match. Because of that New Zealand players play a bit better. If Australia try to play well then nothing can be said until the match is over. Both teams will try hard to win the match. So we have to wait to see who can win the match.

New Zealand and Australia can perform very well in both teams.We have seen Australia and New Zealand play before but they can put up a great performance.Especially Australia at one time but a lot of discussion and cricket they could shape in their own hands.Currently, Australia may not be as good as it used to be, but still it can perform fairly well But let's see how well they can perform on the field.

Yes, you are right, once Australia was a very good team, but they can't play games like they used to. But I think if they still hope to do well then I think it is still possible for them. It will be seen in the match. I think the match will be a tight fight. After the two teams fight, whoever can play better will win the match.

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Quote from: rojan on September 09, 2022, 04:58:57 AM

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I think it is up to me whether New Zealand can do anything like that now. If they try to play a little bit better then they can do it. They will have to struggle a lot for that. But I think batting and bowling both play an equal role in winning a match for a team. I think so. I think Australia and New Zealand are two very strong teams. Both teams have good batting and bowling.

At the moment, New Zealand and Australia teams are almost equal in quality. Both teams have a lot of talented and experienced players. New Zealand lost the first two matches. The main reason for this was the performance of their batsmen was not good. Australia set a target of only 196 runs in the second match. Still New Zealand could not win. If the New Zealand batsmen can play well in the third match, they will win. But if the batsmen are not able to play well in the last match then Australia will win the last match easily. But my guess is that New Zealand will come back in the truck in the last match.

Yes you are right. New Zealand and Australia game will be a very tight fight. I think maybe New Zealand will win this match. Because of that New Zealand players play a bit better. If Australia try to play well then nothing can be said until the match is over. Both teams will try hard to win the match. So we have to wait to see who can win the match.

New Zealand and Australia can perform very well in both teams.We have seen Australia and New Zealand play before but they can put up a great performance.Especially Australia at one time but a lot of discussion and cricket they could shape in their own hands.Currently, Australia may not be as good as it used to be, but still it can perform fairly well But let's see how well they can perform on the field.

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Quote from: rojan on September 09, 2022, 04:58:57 AM

Yes you are right. New Zealand and Australia game will be a very tight fight. I think maybe New Zealand will win this match. Because of that New Zealand players play a bit better. If Australia try to play well then nothing can be said until the match is over. Both teams will try hard to win the match. So we have to wait to see who can win the match.

It is very difficult to predict which team will win this match. Although Australia dominated both matches, it was not easy for them to win after that. New Zealand's batsmen did not play well in the two matches. But they have the ability. As they have been defeated in two matches, they will no doubt try hard to win the match in the last match. I think New Zealand will win the last match.

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Quote from: hichamito37 on September 09, 2022, 01:06:39 AM

Really, what was this match? Neither team could score almost anything in this match. Australia scored 195 and when I thought New Zealand might have a chance, they got all out for almost 80. This was not what was expected. At least I did not expect that. Australia has won the series. They are leading 2-0 in this three-match series. Now I wonder if New Zealand will be able to do anything in the final match. But at the same time, I also expect Australia to try out new things. So New Zealand might actually have a chance.

A shocking result from both sides specially from New Zealand side as they are completely down and out from quality cricket with this performance they can't imagine having any positive thing is going to happen to them in near future they are currently the worst side in all formats even have many quality players in their squad.

As they bowled out Australia at figure of 195 there were feelings they will win, and we are going to have a good challenge in third and final ODI, but suddenly things were out of way, and they all bowled out for just 82 which is not acceptable at this level from them Starc and Zampa are giving best for home team even they are also needs few changes but still manageable at home.

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Why we are debating so much about the 3rd ODI? Australia won the first two matches and they have already qualified for the 2023 ODI World Cup. So the outcome of the third match is not very significant. Ideally, Australia should be giving chances to younger players and this is an ideal opportunity to do so. What about Cam Green being the captain for the third ODI? That said, given the bad blood between the trans-Tasman neighbors, I don't think that Australia will forfeit an opportunity to humiliate their opponents.

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Quote from: posi on September 09, 2022, 04:52:35 AM

Quote from: rojan on September 09, 2022, 04:25:13 AM

I think it is up to me whether New Zealand can do anything like that now. If they try to play a little bit better then they can do it. They will have to struggle a lot for that. But I think batting and bowling both play an equal role in winning a match for a team. I think so. I think Australia and New Zealand are two very strong teams. Both teams have good batting and bowling.

At the moment, New Zealand and Australia teams are almost equal in quality. Both teams have a lot of talented and experienced players. New Zealand lost the first two matches. The main reason for this was the performance of their batsmen was not good. Australia set a target of only 196 runs in the second match. Still New Zealand could not win. If the New Zealand batsmen can play well in the third match, they will win. But if the batsmen are not able to play well in the last match then Australia will win the last match easily. But my guess is that New Zealand will come back in the truck in the last match.

Yes you are right. New Zealand and Australia game will be a very tight fight. I think maybe New Zealand will win this match. Because of that New Zealand players play a bit better. If Australia try to play well then nothing can be said until the match is over. Both teams will try hard to win the match. So we have to wait to see who can win the match.

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Quote from: rojan on September 09, 2022, 04:25:13 AM

I think it is up to me whether New Zealand can do anything like that now. If they try to play a little bit better then they can do it. They will have to struggle a lot for that. But I think batting and bowling both play an equal role in winning a match for a team. I think so. I think Australia and New Zealand are two very strong teams. Both teams have good batting and bowling.

At the moment, New Zealand and Australia teams are almost equal in quality. Both teams have a lot of talented and experienced players. New Zealand lost the first two matches. The main reason for this was the performance of their batsmen was not good. Australia set a target of only 196 runs in the second match. Still New Zealand could not win. If the New Zealand batsmen can play well in the third match, they will win. But if the batsmen are not able to play well in the last match then Australia will win the last match easily. But my guess is that New Zealand will come back in the truck in the last match.

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Quote from: hichamito37 on September 09, 2022, 01:06:39 AM

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Australia won the third match, and won the series as well. But once again, their top order collapsed. And it was poor bowling from New Zealand as well. From a total of 117/8, Australia managed to recover to 195/9, as a result of contributions from their lower order batsmen such as Mitchell Starc, Adam Zampa and Josh Hazlewood. The last two wicket partnerships added 78 runs and proved to be very crucial in a low scoring match. Not very impressed with captaincy tactics from Kane Williamson. He should have used Boult and Henry to wrap up the tail.

After first two ODI Aussies won this series by 2 - 0 and third ODI is coming after two days but after watching this performance from both sides look like both have no idea how to bat 61 from Steve Smith and 38 from Mitchell Starc were enough for home side to reach at figure of 195 with Henry and Boult again demolish Aussies badly with seven wickets but after this what we have is more shameful for kiwis as they are not have good quality batting and losing wickets very quickly specially Zampa done good damage to them and have 5/35 which is his career best Kane Williamson 17 from 56 balls and Mitchell Santner 16 main scorer for them, they need to do something special for fight back have one win from this series and better future in their future otherwise they are going down and out from seen again for long time.

Really, what was this match? Neither team could score almost anything in this match. Australia scored 195 and when I thought New Zealand might have a chance, they got all out for almost 80. This was not what was expected. At least I did not expect that. Australia has won the series. They are leading 2-0 in this three-match series. Now I wonder if New Zealand will be able to do anything in the final match. But at the same time, I also expect Australia to try out new things. So New Zealand might actually have a chance.

I think it is up to me whether New Zealand can do anything like that now. If they try to play a little bit better then they can do it. They will have to struggle a lot for that. But I think batting and bowling both play an equal role in winning a match for a team. I think so. I think Australia and New Zealand are two very strong teams. Both teams have good batting and bowling.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on September 08, 2022, 06:53:52 AM

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Australia won the third match, and won the series as well. But once again, their top order collapsed. And it was poor bowling from New Zealand as well. From a total of 117/8, Australia managed to recover to 195/9, as a result of contributions from their lower order batsmen such as Mitchell Starc, Adam Zampa and Josh Hazlewood. The last two wicket partnerships added 78 runs and proved to be very crucial in a low scoring match. Not very impressed with captaincy tactics from Kane Williamson. He should have used Boult and Henry to wrap up the tail.

After first two ODI Aussies won this series by 2 - 0 and third ODI is coming after two days but after watching this performance from both sides look like both have no idea how to bat 61 from Steve Smith and 38 from Mitchell Starc were enough for home side to reach at figure of 195 with Henry and Boult again demolish Aussies badly with seven wickets but after this what we have is more shameful for kiwis as they are not have good quality batting and losing wickets very quickly specially Zampa done good damage to them and have 5/35 which is his career best Kane Williamson 17 from 56 balls and Mitchell Santner 16 main scorer for them, they need to do something special for fight back have one win from this series and better future in their future otherwise they are going down and out from seen again for long time.

Really, what was this match? Neither team could score almost anything in this match. Australia scored 195 and when I thought New Zealand might have a chance, they got all out for almost 80. This was not what was expected. At least I did not expect that. Australia has won the series. They are leading 2-0 in this three-match series. Now I wonder if New Zealand will be able to do anything in the final match. But at the same time, I also expect Australia to try out new things. So New Zealand might actually have a chance.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 08, 2022, 09:15:31 PM

The pitch looked OK and wasn't giving any undue advantage to the bowlers. And despite all that the Kiwis couldn't chase down a target of just 196 runs. They couldn't even get to three-digits and were bowled out for 82 runs. Mitchell Starc and Sean Abbott cleaned up their top and middle order, while Adam Zampa cleaned up the tail and destroyed New Zealand without a trace. Australia is up 2-0 in this series and the third match is going to be a dead rubber. But New Zealand need to focus on their weakness with top order batting.

Adam Zampa took his first five-wicket haul in an ODI and destroyed New Zealand for naught. In the first and second ODIs, Team New Zealand displayed disgraceful and pathetic performance. It was a poor batting performance from both sides. As Starc and Hazlewood added about 50 runs, it must not have been a tough pitch to bat on. It couldn't have been that bad. Australian bowling and fielding were outstanding! It's good to see Australia doing well.

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The pitch looked OK and wasn't giving any undue advantage to the bowlers. And despite all that the Kiwis couldn't chase down a target of just 196 runs. They couldn't even get to three-digits and were bowled out for 82 runs. Mitchell Starc and Sean Abbott cleaned up their top and middle order, while Adam Zampa cleaned up the tail and destroyed New Zealand without a trace. Australia is up 2-0 in this series and the third match is going to be a dead rubber. But New Zealand need to focus on their weakness with top order batting.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on September 08, 2022, 06:25:57 PM

In the match between Australia and New Zealand, i thought New Zealand will be able to chase the score but i was wrong and the Australian bowlers were determined that they would defend the total especially Sean Abbott who bowled 4 consecutive maiden overs which is really rare in any format. New Zealand should find a replacement for Martin Guptill as he is struggling with his form for a long period of time.

I too had the same thought of New Zealand winning the match as 195 is an easy target to be reached. None were able to make steady partnership. Kane Williamson managed to score little, but he wasn't able to keep it up and fell to Zamba. As said four Maiden overs out of 5 overs bowled with 2 wickets is very rare. By the time New Zealand should've taken chances than defending.

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