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Quote from: WatChe on September 02, 2022, 10:33:55 AM

Tomorrow there will be third ODI between Zimbabwe and Australia. Australia have already won the series and chances are they will won the last ODI also. Zimbabwe put up a decent show in first ODI scoring 200 runs but in second ODI it was a total disaster. Whole Zimbabwe team was bowled out for just 97 runs.
Let's see how Zimbabwe performs tomorrow.

Despite getting so many opportunities, Zimbabwe could not give any good cricket in few days. It is said that their players did not qualify to play with the big team. There is no question of winning with Australia. It wouldn't have been less if they could have put a little pressure on them but they couldn't do anything against them. Anyway will have to wait for the last match to see what they can do.

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Tomorrow there will be third ODI between Zimbabwe and Australia. Australia have already won the series and chances are they will won the last ODI also. Zimbabwe put up a decent show in first ODI scoring 200 runs but in second ODI it was a total disaster. Whole Zimbabwe team was bowled out for just 97 runs.
Let's see how Zimbabwe performs tomorrow.

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Quote from: coinerer on September 02, 2022, 08:35:36 AM

Afghanistan team is now very strong in terms of bowling and batting. Here I look at the statistics of some players who have come to good positions in a short period of time especially in ODI format. One such is Fareed Ahmad who has managed to take 15 wickets in 11 matches. Fazalhaq Farooqi He played only 7 matches and took 13 wickets and Mujeeb Ur Rahman He played 52 matches and took 79 wickets. However, among them, Mujibur Rahman has already gained quite good reputation.

Pakistan and Hong Kong are competing in Asia cup today at Dubai. Hong Kong is not coming slow and they gave competitively better performance as a new team.
despite of the fact they are nervous and gave a few no balls and wides.
But the team is not of local HongKong players seems like they are all international.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 02, 2022, 05:53:19 AM

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Rashid Khan and Mujibur Rahman are the two most feared spinners of the Afghanistan cricket team.They can knock out the best batsmen in the world in any time.They bowled like googly and beat the batsmen. Besides, the rest of the Afghan team played quite well.They have good quality batsman.There is good understanding among their team.They have the ability to do well in any format T20 or ODI.

Both Rashid and Mujibur are among the best spinners in the T20 format. Afghanistan is quite strong in the spin department. Even their irregular bowlers such as Izharulhaq Naveed and Zahir Khan are in great demand across the franchise T20 leagues. Their pace bowlers are relatively inexperienced and that can be their weakness. Bowlers such as Fazalhaq Farooqi and Azmatullah Omarzai have the pace and venom, but they can be put under pressure very easily. Naveen-ul-Haq is slightly better, but he is also not very experienced.

Afghanistan team is now very strong in terms of bowling and batting. Here I look at the statistics of some players who have come to good positions in a short period of time especially in ODI format. One such is Fareed Ahmad who has managed to take 15 wickets in 11 matches. Fazalhaq Farooqi He played only 7 matches and took 13 wickets and Mujeeb Ur Rahman He played 52 matches and took 79 wickets. However, among them, Mujibur Rahman has already gained quite good reputation.

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Quote from: keyscore44 on September 02, 2022, 05:23:20 AM

Rashid Khan and Mujibur Rahman are the two most feared spinners of the Afghanistan cricket team.They can knock out the best batsmen in the world in any time.They bowled like googly and beat the batsmen. Besides, the rest of the Afghan team played quite well.They have good quality batsman.There is good understanding among their team.They have the ability to do well in any format T20 or ODI.

Both Rashid and Mujibur are among the best spinners in the T20 format. Afghanistan is quite strong in the spin department. Even their irregular bowlers such as Izharulhaq Naveed and Zahir Khan are in great demand across the franchise T20 leagues. Their pace bowlers are relatively inexperienced and that can be their weakness. Bowlers such as Fazalhaq Farooqi and Azmatullah Omarzai have the pace and venom, but they can be put under pressure very easily. Naveen-ul-Haq is slightly better, but he is also not very experienced.

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Quote from: Iranus on September 02, 2022, 12:44:04 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on September 01, 2022, 08:32:24 PM

The case with Afghanistan is surprising. Despite the fact that Afghanistan is under Taliban regime, the cricket team has performed exceptionally better against top teams. They managed to defeat both Sri Lanka and Bangladesh, who got the test status decades earlier when compared to them. Sri Lanka's case is also understandable, since the country is going through a lot of economic turmoil. But then what happened to Bangladesh? Apart from some issues between the players and the board, they were doing relatively well compared to the other teams.

The performances of Afghanistan and Ireland are surprising everyone now. Afghanistan is now very strong in ODI and T20 formats. They performed exceptionally well against Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. And looking at their performance, it looks like they will be able to do well against any strong team now. I would not be surprised to see Afghanistan in the Asia Cup final.

The Bangladesh team is ruined due to the corruption of their BCB bosses. Their domestic league is very weak. And so they are not finding new talented players. At the same time, Bangladesh is not getting good performance from the squad players. If new players are not found, the performance of the Bangladesh team will further deteriorate.

Afghanistan team is completely dependent on spin bowling. They have some world famous spinners in their team who can turn the match at any time. But they performed very well against Ireland relying on spin They have developed a lot in T20 as well as ODI cricket. Hope they do better in future.

It can be said that their progress is more relatively short period of time. Rashid Khan and Nabi are two world famous all rounders. Any big batsman has to bow before their spin ball. Also, they are very good at batting. There are some bowlers like Mujeeb and Fazalhaq Farooqi who are also bowling well. Also there are good hitters in the team so I can support Afghanistan as a complete team for any of the format.

Rashid Khan and Mujibur Rahman are the two most feared spinners of the Afghanistan cricket team.They can knock out the best batsmen in the world in any time.They bowled like googly and beat the batsmen. Besides, the rest of the Afghan team played quite well.They have good quality batsman.There is good understanding among their team.They have the ability to do well in any format T20 or ODI.

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Quote from: Rigon on September 02, 2022, 12:54:15 AM

Quote from: Iranus on September 02, 2022, 12:44:04 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on September 01, 2022, 08:32:24 PM

The case with Afghanistan is surprising. Despite the fact that Afghanistan is under Taliban regime, the cricket team has performed exceptionally better against top teams. They managed to defeat both Sri Lanka and Bangladesh, who got the test status decades earlier when compared to them. Sri Lanka's case is also understandable, since the country is going through a lot of economic turmoil. But then what happened to Bangladesh? Apart from some issues between the players and the board, they were doing relatively well compared to the other teams.

The performances of Afghanistan and Ireland are surprising everyone now. Afghanistan is now very strong in ODI and T20 formats. They performed exceptionally well against Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. And looking at their performance, it looks like they will be able to do well against any strong team now. I would not be surprised to see Afghanistan in the Asia Cup final.

The Bangladesh team is ruined due to the corruption of their BCB bosses. Their domestic league is very weak. And so they are not finding new talented players. At the same time, Bangladesh is not getting good performance from the squad players. If new players are not found, the performance of the Bangladesh team will further deteriorate.

Afghanistan team is completely dependent on spin bowling. They have some world famous spinners in their team who can turn the match at any time. But they performed very well against Ireland relying on spin They have developed a lot in T20 as well as ODI cricket. Hope they do better in future.

It can be said that their progress is more relatively short period of time. Rashid Khan and Nabi are two world famous all rounders. Any big batsman has to bow before their spin ball. Also, they are very good at batting. There are some bowlers like Mujeeb and Fazalhaq Farooqi who are also bowling well. Also there are good hitters in the team so I can support Afghanistan as a complete team for any of the format.

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Quote from: Iranus on September 02, 2022, 12:44:04 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on September 01, 2022, 08:32:24 PM

The case with Afghanistan is surprising. Despite the fact that Afghanistan is under Taliban regime, the cricket team has performed exceptionally better against top teams. They managed to defeat both Sri Lanka and Bangladesh, who got the test status decades earlier when compared to them. Sri Lanka's case is also understandable, since the country is going through a lot of economic turmoil. But then what happened to Bangladesh? Apart from some issues between the players and the board, they were doing relatively well compared to the other teams.

The performances of Afghanistan and Ireland are surprising everyone now. Afghanistan is now very strong in ODI and T20 formats. They performed exceptionally well against Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. And looking at their performance, it looks like they will be able to do well against any strong team now. I would not be surprised to see Afghanistan in the Asia Cup final.

The Bangladesh team is ruined due to the corruption of their BCB bosses. Their domestic league is very weak. And so they are not finding new talented players. At the same time, Bangladesh is not getting good performance from the squad players. If new players are not found, the performance of the Bangladesh team will further deteriorate.

Afghanistan team is completely dependent on spin bowling. They have some world famous spinners in their team who can turn the match at any time. But they performed very well against Ireland relying on spin They have developed a lot in T20 as well as ODI cricket. Hope they do better in future.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 01, 2022, 08:32:24 PM

The case with Afghanistan is surprising. Despite the fact that Afghanistan is under Taliban regime, the cricket team has performed exceptionally better against top teams. They managed to defeat both Sri Lanka and Bangladesh, who got the test status decades earlier when compared to them. Sri Lanka's case is also understandable, since the country is going through a lot of economic turmoil. But then what happened to Bangladesh? Apart from some issues between the players and the board, they were doing relatively well compared to the other teams.

The performances of Afghanistan and Ireland are surprising everyone now. Afghanistan is now very strong in ODI and T20 formats. They performed exceptionally well against Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. And looking at their performance, it looks like they will be able to do well against any strong team now. I would not be surprised to see Afghanistan in the Asia Cup final.

The Bangladesh team is ruined due to the corruption of their BCB bosses. Their domestic league is very weak. And so they are not finding new talented players. At the same time, Bangladesh is not getting good performance from the squad players. If new players are not found, the performance of the Bangladesh team will further deteriorate.

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The case with Afghanistan is surprising. Despite the fact that Afghanistan is under Taliban regime, the cricket team has performed exceptionally better against top teams. They managed to defeat both Sri Lanka and Bangladesh, who got the test status decades earlier when compared to them. Sri Lanka's case is also understandable, since the country is going through a lot of economic turmoil. But then what happened to Bangladesh? Apart from some issues between the players and the board, they were doing relatively well compared to the other teams.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on September 01, 2022, 02:17:31 PM

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It is good for Zimbabwe. If small teams are continually get this opportunity, they will do better. Just look at the Afghanistan cricket, they deserves praise today. The maturity they have shown in cricket has made the whole cricketing world splendid. If they can maintain this consistency, they will be able to improve their cricket in the upper level.

I am not sure whether it will be good for Zimbabwe, they need to find quality players and for getting exposure and experience playing against top level teams would benefit the talents, other than that there is no point in conducting these ODI series where the players hardly play the entire quota of overs let alone have a competitive match in any aspect.

Even for punters the odds are not that great since it is a one sided trashing.

I remember Zimbabwe playing against Bangladesh 10 or 12 years ago. At that time also, the Zimbabwe batsmen did not have any sponsor for their bat. And after all these times they still don’t have any sponsor. I know that they have a lot of problems going on. But if the money is put into the right hands, I think these things should have been taken care of by now.

Just look at the Bangladesh cricket team, they don’t even play very well but they have almost everything. I am not saying that the Zimbabwe team is much better compared to Bangladesh or Afghanistan. But I really don’t see any improvements in the last few years from Zimbabwe. And on the other hand, we can see Afghanistan basically does not have any stability right now doing very well in cricket. Zimbabwe should be able to utilize the money well to at least have a good future in cricket.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on September 01, 2022, 02:17:31 PM

Quote from: coinerer on August 31, 2022, 01:28:06 AM

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It is good for Zimbabwe. If small teams are continually get this opportunity, they will do better. Just look at the Afghanistan cricket, they deserves praise today. The maturity they have shown in cricket has made the whole cricketing world splendid. If they can maintain this consistency, they will be able to improve their cricket in the upper level.

I am not sure whether it will be good for Zimbabwe, they need to find quality players and for getting exposure and experience playing against top level teams would benefit the talents, other than that there is no point in conducting these ODI series where the players hardly play the entire quota of overs let alone have a competitive match in any aspect.

Even for punters the odds are not that great since it is a one sided trashing.

We already figure out this many times here now time is running out for this all because they need good and professional management but sadly right now they have corrupt and crap political influence which is not allowing their domestic set-up to have better system even they are having good funds from ICC, and they also can do some marketing which will bring some good amount in their wallet for better things they already lost their golden era just because of this political influence and their quality players are living outside this country for decades which can change things for them, and they can do good even not at top but still good which is acceptable for all.

Now wait for revolutionary person who super head them, and they have few good things for their cricketing community because they are also good for ODI and T20 format instead of playing in all three formats which is surely not good for them right now.

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Quote from: coinerer on August 31, 2022, 01:28:06 AM

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It is good for Zimbabwe. If small teams are continually get this opportunity, they will do better. Just look at the Afghanistan cricket, they deserves praise today. The maturity they have shown in cricket has made the whole cricketing world splendid. If they can maintain this consistency, they will be able to improve their cricket in the upper level.

I am not sure whether it will be good for Zimbabwe, they need to find quality players and for getting exposure and experience playing against top level teams would benefit the talents, other than that there is no point in conducting these ODI series where the players hardly play the entire quota of overs let alone have a competitive match in any aspect.

Even for punters the odds are not that great since it is a one sided trashing.

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Quote from: Minecache on September 01, 2022, 01:06:36 PM

I think placing four teams in each tier is going to be the best decision. Because every team is going to be in the rightful place and also going to try to improve. But that is going to make the smaller and associate teams feel like outcasts. And if 6/7 teams are in a tier I think there will be more teams very interested in cricket. Suppose Bangladesh or Sri Lanka is not in the top six, they will work very hard to get promoted up to the top six positions. And the associate nations are probably going to be in the Third tier and that is going to be interesting for them.

Too many tiers too much headache for all so better idea is just gone with two groups one for top six and second for later six in test format in ODI they need to allow eight teams in tier one and then have second group with same number of teams because here we need around 16 teams which good be good and in T20 they need to be ten teams with other ten in second and all others in third tier because we need this format as big as we can for better marketing purpose and giving other countries more chances with Franchise is surely going to be necessary for them.

Many players will have good experience which will help all teams for having good quality in laser time and this format is having brighter future as going to be part of Olympics and Asian games which are surely good for all members.

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Everyone is trying to figure out the ZIM weak points dudes take it easy as AUS is a very powerful team for ZIM as ZIM is in the learning stages what you expect from them just figures out that how they are doing good and how much perfection they actually need to Face such teams in the next era. So point is pointless of we are discussing one on one fight between both teams on the base of match win or lose situation.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 31, 2022, 10:05:15 PM

Quote from: savetheFORUM on August 31, 2022, 07:14:11 AM

With today match looking ICC needs some good changes in their system because they are doing nothing and quality gap is widening day by day after today match now I am also feeling they need to do some good changes for better entertainment and bring promotion-relegation system which will help for improving quality in test matches they need to have six teams at top and other six in second tire in ODI they need to have ten teams in A and nearly seven or eight in tire B same apply in T20 with twelve teams in tire A and rest in tire B because with this we can expect some better quality and entertaining which is also good for spread this game with matches like today nothing positive can happen even more frustration for fans and lost of media is also occurring which is not good.

I would rather place 6-7 teams in the top tier and same number of teams in the second tier. But then, it won't be acceptable for teams such as Bangladesh and Sri Lanka, who will be relegated to the second tier. So as of now, there is no solution available which is acceptable for all the parties. And with the gap between top teams and the lower ranked teams widening, the issue of lop-sided matches will be raised more often in the future. Increased fund allocation from the ICC would not achieve anything, as seen from the case with Zimbabwe.

I think placing four teams in each tier is going to be the best decision. Because every team is going to be in the rightful place and also going to try to improve. But that is going to make the smaller and associate teams feel like outcasts. And if 6/7 teams are in a tier I think there will be more teams very interested in cricket. Suppose Bangladesh or Sri Lanka is not in the top six, they will work very hard to get promoted up to the top six positions. And the associate nations are probably going to be in the Third tier and that is going to be interesting for them.

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Quote from: savetheFORUM on August 31, 2022, 07:14:11 AM

With today match looking ICC needs some good changes in their system because they are doing nothing and quality gap is widening day by day after today match now I am also feeling they need to do some good changes for better entertainment and bring promotion-relegation system which will help for improving quality in test matches they need to have six teams at top and other six in second tire in ODI they need to have ten teams in A and nearly seven or eight in tire B same apply in T20 with twelve teams in tire A and rest in tire B because with this we can expect some better quality and entertaining which is also good for spread this game with matches like today nothing positive can happen even more frustration for fans and lost of media is also occurring which is not good.

I would rather place 6-7 teams in the top tier and same number of teams in the second tier. But then, it won't be acceptable for teams such as Bangladesh and Sri Lanka, who will be relegated to the second tier. So as of now, there is no solution available which is acceptable for all the parties. And with the gap between top teams and the lower ranked teams widening, the issue of lop-sided matches will be raised more often in the future. Increased fund allocation from the ICC would not achieve anything, as seen from the case with Zimbabwe.

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Quote from: savetheFORUM on August 31, 2022, 07:14:11 AM

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Quote from: romero121 on August 30, 2022, 11:02:52 PM

Australia won the match in a very easy way. Zimbabwe that played better against India and Bangladesh in its previous series weren't able to perform to the level against Australia. Agreed, but only when it gets opportunity it can keep up the game. After a long in recent years now only Zimbabwe have got chances to play against the top teams.

They got the chance and they wasted it. And that is why I am demanding a promotion-relegation system in top-tier cricket. Why Zimbabwe should be given so many chances, when other countries such as Scotland and Namibia are not given the same? Cricket fans have patiently waited for more than two decades and still there is no improvement with respect to Zimbabwe. There is no point in allowing them to play against top teams on a regular basis. I hope that the ICC will take some strong action once the current cycle of ODI super league is completed.

With today match looking ICC needs some good changes in their system because they are doing nothing and quality gap is widening day by day after today match now I am also feeling they need to do some good changes for better entertainment and bring promotion-relegation system which will help for improving quality in test matches they need to have six teams at top and other six in second tire in ODI they need to have ten teams in A and nearly seven or eight in tire B same apply in T20 with twelve teams in tire A and rest in tire B because with this we can expect some better quality and entertaining which is also good for spread this game with matches like today nothing positive can happen even more frustration for fans and lost of media is also occurring which is not good.

Zimbabwe didn’t do anything. They absolutely could not do anything and batting first also did not help them. They could not even reach a hundred with the whole team. All the Zimbabwe team was back in the hut before they reached a hundred and obviously they also could not play out the whole 50 overs. I was honestly expecting better from Zimbabwe thinking that they are going to learn from their mistakes. Obviously, that did not happen. Australia wins this series which was expected. Let’s see if Zimbabwe can salvage something from the series in the last match.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 31, 2022, 02:55:49 AM

Quote from: romero121 on August 30, 2022, 11:02:52 PM

Australia won the match in a very easy way. Zimbabwe that played better against India and Bangladesh in its previous series weren't able to perform to the level against Australia. Agreed, but only when it gets opportunity it can keep up the game. After a long in recent years now only Zimbabwe have got chances to play against the top teams.

They got the chance and they wasted it. And that is why I am demanding a promotion-relegation system in top-tier cricket. Why Zimbabwe should be given so many chances, when other countries such as Scotland and Namibia are not given the same? Cricket fans have patiently waited for more than two decades and still there is no improvement with respect to Zimbabwe. There is no point in allowing them to play against top teams on a regular basis. I hope that the ICC will take some strong action once the current cycle of ODI super league is completed.

With today match looking ICC needs some good changes in their system because they are doing nothing and quality gap is widening day by day after today match now I am also feeling they need to do some good changes for better entertainment and bring promotion-relegation system which will help for improving quality in test matches they need to have six teams at top and other six in second tire in ODI they need to have ten teams in A and nearly seven or eight in tire B same apply in T20 with twelve teams in tire A and rest in tire B because with this we can expect some better quality and entertaining which is also good for spread this game with matches like today nothing positive can happen even more frustration for fans and lost of media is also occurring which is not good.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 31, 2022, 02:55:49 AM

Quote from: romero121 on August 30, 2022, 11:02:52 PM

Australia won the match in a very easy way. Zimbabwe that played better against India and Bangladesh in its previous series weren't able to perform to the level against Australia. Agreed, but only when it gets opportunity it can keep up the game. After a long in recent years now only Zimbabwe have got chances to play against the top teams.

They got the chance and they wasted it. And that is why I am demanding a promotion-relegation system in top-tier cricket. Why Zimbabwe should be given so many chances, when other countries such as Scotland and Namibia are not given the same? Cricket fans have patiently waited for more than two decades and still there is no improvement with respect to Zimbabwe. There is no point in allowing them to play against top teams on a regular basis. I hope that the ICC will take some strong action once the current cycle of ODI super league is completed.

It is true that Zimbabwe constantly getting the chance with successive big teams but their performances have worsened. Although they played well only against Bangladesh, Zimbabwe is nothing compared to other big teams. It was said earlier that this series will be one-sided. Zimbabwe is not eligible to play with them in any way. Moreover, neither the ICC nor the board or spectators can benefit from such matches.

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