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Not safe investment at start but imo it should be reasonable solution if you're looking at big picture or focusing on long term goal (spreading the game).

Sure some fixtures are going to be dud but that's part of the deal. Also fans have the loudest voice regarding why aren't there more teams in the WC.  

ICC now has idea that cricket can't go beyond these 10 countries that's why it's not focusing on bringing new countries to cricket paradigm. Right now everything is IPL centric as icc is getting fair share from ipl so not much emphasis on that side.

I think this might be an argument that is not relatable because FIFA can generate a lot more money than the ICC and the main reason is that football is played by almost all the countries in the world and cricket is hardly played outside the 10 or 12  regularly cricket playing countries. 

So obviously the revenue is going to be a lot lower. and that's why I don't understand why ICC is not trying to increase the number of countries that play cricket regularly otherwise, the money generated is not going to be better.

I know that a lot of people are divided about the celebrity situation in the IPL and so am I because I don't know if celebrities are the reason why the IPL is going to get some boost at this stage. I have seen various ads about the IPL and I really find them hilarious even without the celebrities but probably something new could have been done with the help of the celebrities. Anyway, we have a match between Kolkata Knight Riders and Rajasthan Royals today and I think Rajasthan Royals are going to win this match without any doubt. You know KKR have lost all the previous five out of the five matches and I don't expect too much from them this IPL.

Celebrities only appear when they get money. IPL franchises are already famous and I guess they do not need the support of celebrities to market their brand. Cricketers themselves are now celebs in IPL and are now promoting their franchise through numerous advertisements. I do not think in the future you would see many celebrities coming to see the matches unless they are friends of an owner. I do think some of them might appear during the semifinals and finals this season. Also for IPL-related discussion, you can visit the T20 thread.

Just like you can't compare apple with orange's, likewise we can't compare icc with fifa. Though cricket is old game but it failed to get global popularity and remain confined to South Asia mostly or we can say countries where UK ruled once. Even associate level teams are capable of beating top teams in fifa while that's not the case in icc tournaments.

In the whole cricketing world, IPL is quite popular but the problem is cricket is not very popular altogether and that has certainly limited the revenue that is being generated by cricket as a whole. and it is true that 70 to 80% of the revenue is generated from India and that alone shows the situation of cricket by itself. It is quite safe to invest money in club matches instead of International matches.
when even not interesting matches are generating a lot of revenue then why would someone put his money on some International stage of cricket?

Players are obviously going to look for a bigger paycheck because their life as an athlete is not very long and they also have to worry about the life after their retirement.




ICC is obviously not going to get enough money unless there are more teams interested in cricket. I think most of the money generated by cricket comes from the subcontinent because the fans here are just crazy about cricket. It doesn't look like ICC has any big plans for expanding cricket as a game. so I don't see bigger revenue being generated by cricket in the recent future.




I really don't see the point of increasing the number of tournaments instead of trying to increase the number of teams that are playing cricket regularly. The same amount of fans is going to be bored of cricket if the same thing was on again and again. And yes test status is just not an option and if the revenue is needed to be made bigger I think ICC needs to introduce more and more countries to ODI and T20 cricket.

That's not true. Obviously the 32 countries who qualify for the world cup will be receiving a proportionally higher amount. From the next world cup onwards, the number of participants will be 48. On the other hand, the ICC world cup features a total of 10 teams. And for all the 211 national associations of FIFA, they provide a funding of $250,000 per year for a project of their choice. There are further grants and loans being given to these members for FIFA projects. On the other hand, most of the 94 associate members of the ICC receive funds worth $10,000-$20,000 per year.

ODI, Test and T20I have there own class and can't be compared with any league. You also have taken long break from this cricket threads, I remember you are a regular poster here. Pakistan has banned airing of IPL since IPL has banned inclusion of Pakistan players.

What you've said is true. This time there is not much of celebrities found. To some extent there is a need for celebrities to support the league in terms of promotion. Now IPL have evolved as a brand and things were happening good. So, it is quite rare to see celebrities. During the CSK vs MI final the viewers count on the official broadcasting app reached 8.3million. This shows how big the league have changed through these many seasons.

Don't know how can you say that you can't access IPL matches when everything is broadcast online. Even if the matches are not shown on your TV channels, you can watch them online through various subscriptions (by paying of course )or watch illegal broadcasts through Facebook for free.

When i googled it shows that you will be able to watch the IPL through Yupp TV which is a streaming service and available in Geo Super (TBC). I am also watching the match with the help of streaming service, so if you really want to watch the match, it is possible to view them. Since you claimed that people in Pakistan has no access to watch the matches i am pointing this out as those are the official broadcast partners for the IPL this season.

That is why we can ask Indian members to keep us updated on IPL, but there are so many team and long lists of matches that it is hard to keep a track of all of them. I think there is not much hype for IPL. I am not sure if I am correct but earlier we saw many celebrates supporting IPL but haven't seen any in a while.

It's been a long break in international cricket because everyone is busy in IPL and in IPL seasons, there are no other formats and series scheduled.

Anyways, I don't think anyone (other than me) is missing ODI / Test Matches as everyone must be enjoying IPL matches. People in Pakistan have no access to watch these matches live. 

This is a wrong concept, FIFA will spend money to the teams qualifying in the final 32 who is playing the World Cup, other than that their respective national Football team has to fund the team and meet the expenses as it is practically impossible to fund all the teams. Once you are qualified they get $1.5 million each and then there is a compensation for the Football clubs to release the players for the World Cup.

To improve the game each and every country has to improve their infrastructure be Cricket, Football or any other sporting event, you cannot expect the general body to fund you in identifying young talents or improving the quality of the event.

Look at FIFA. They are spending millions of USD every year to each of the weaker teams. On the other hand, the ICC hardly provides any funding for the associate nations. On average, they receive only a few tens of thousands of USD every year in grants. So it is not practical to ask these teams to compete against test nations all of a sudden. Improving the quality of associate teams may take many years. And for that continued support is required from not just the ICC, but also from the 12 test nations. 

Fair amount of associate nations have some sort of domestic setup. Not perfect but set up is there, which facilitate different types of Amateur leagues. Test and T-20 format are completely different beasts and requires different types of skillset. Shorter format is easier to adapt in comparison to Test format, that's why random countries regularly play T-10 or T-20 instead of 4day test match.

This is not going to be a popular opinion but I somehow think that the people in southeast Asia are a little bit lifeless because they are absolutely obsessed with cricket and they don't even try to play or watch any other Sports.

A lot of people don't even know in Southeast Asia that the NBA is generating a lot more money than cricket right now. But I honestly think that if cricket can be popularized in the USA it can be a Revolutionary step for cricket in the long run. and obviously, the people in the USA are just not interested in only one sport. so cricket can have a big fan following there.

You cant simply create quality T20 team from no where. Unless you have a domestic setup where test and odi is played only then you can create a T20I team. The problem is new countries are not willing to join in and teams of usa, uae, germany are made up of immigrants from South Asia.

ICC very much interested in increasing the revenue that's why they lobbied hard for at least one ICC tournament every year. Problem is they only want to milk the Indian market, for example deliberately trying to push ICC media rights auction before IPL's media auction.

Simply handing over Test status to countries is not solution. Test format is a dead cow except for few countries. Limited overs cricket, especially T-20 is the future. IMHO They should make qualification process easy and go ahead with 16-20 countries T-20WC tournament.

At start there is a possibility that it won't be profitable because you have to subsidise new participants. Also it could turn into financial disaster (like 2007), plus bit dull tournament at times due to mis-matched fixtures but in a longer run it could solve many problems because cricketing market would mature in those new countries, given ICC playing its cards right (like involving locals, publicity etc) but for this to happen ICC have to bite the bullet.