Also I am getting scores of this match through the internet because the local sports TV channels are busy showing the matches of PSL.
Edit: I am watching this live now on OPN sports through facebook.
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The all important quarterfinal has started in the under 19 world cup between Australia and Pakistan. Pakistan has won the toss and asked the Australians to bat first. Although they made the right choice but Australians are playing very well and have made 58 runs without any wicket. If this continues. then I am afraid, it will be hard for us to chase down big target.
Also I am getting scores of this match through the internet because the local sports TV channels are busy showing the matches of PSL.
Edit: I am watching this live now on OPN sports through facebook.
Also I am getting scores of this match through the internet because the local sports TV channels are busy showing the matches of PSL.
Edit: I am watching this live now on OPN sports through facebook.
Right now we have one of most excited ODI in CWC U19 between Afghanistan vs Sri Lanka in this match Sri Lanka was hot favourite for win but right now situation is very interesting as Afghanistan bowled out for just 134 and Sri Lanka while chasing this very small total were 43/7 I was feeling very easy win for Afghanistan but suddenly Captain Dunith Wellalage and Raveen de Silva done historic job for their country and have stand of 69 runs as many were feeling now Sri Lanka is going to win we have another twist and Afghanistan take 2 wickets now Sri Lanka need only 19 runs on 45 balls and last pair is on crease what a classic match between the giants from Asia.
Afganistan is performing really well in this tournament, they defeated Srilanka by just 4 runs. It was a very close match and the Afghan team won because of their bowling and fielding. Today we have another interesting match between Australia and Pakistan. 
I watched some of the matches live on FanCode and I need to say that the Dutch batting was extremely disappointing. The batsmen looked completely clueless (with the exception of Ackerman and Edwards). This time some of the senior batsmen were not available and the KNCB decided to give opportunity for younger players like Bas de Leede, Boris Gorlee and Saqib Zulfiqar. Unfortunately none of them became successful. Their bowlers did well, but they failed in the batting department. And the captain (Pieter Seelaar) was a complete waste.
So we can say that Netherland is not getting the test status very soon. Netherlands cricket team is very old as compared to Afghanistan and also they have good sporting facilities but still there level of game is not improving. It may be because not many are interested in cricket in Netherlands. In all probability, the Netherlands will end up like Kenya and completely vanish from the cricketing world. They have a cricketing history of more than 200 years and some of the clubs there are older than the MCC (Marylebone Cricket Club) itself. But for the last two decades, cricket has been a dying sport in that country. Teams like Oman and UAE are climbing up the ladder, thanks to playing XIs entirely comprised of first-class cricketers from India and Pakistan. The native players from Netherlands can't compete against these mercenary teams. Also, popularity of cricket is evaporating among the native Dutch.
I watched some of the matches live on FanCode and I need to say that the Dutch batting was extremely disappointing. The batsmen looked completely clueless (with the exception of Ackerman and Edwards). This time some of the senior batsmen were not available and the KNCB decided to give opportunity for younger players like Bas de Leede, Boris Gorlee and Saqib Zulfiqar. Unfortunately none of them became successful. Their bowlers did well, but they failed in the batting department. And the captain (Pieter Seelaar) was a complete waste.
So we can say that Netherland is not getting the test status very soon. Netherlands cricket team is very old as compared to Afghanistan and also they have good sporting facilities but still there level of game is not improving. It may be because not many are interested in cricket in Netherlands. In all probability, the Netherlands will end up like Kenya and completely vanish from the cricketing world. They have a cricketing history of more than 200 years and some of the clubs there are older than the MCC (Marylebone Cricket Club) itself. But for the last two decades, cricket has been a dying sport in that country. Teams like Oman and UAE are climbing up the ladder, thanks to playing XIs entirely comprised of first-class cricketers from India and Pakistan. The native players from Netherlands can't compete against these mercenary teams. Also, popularity of cricket is evaporating among the native Dutch.
I have to agree because one team batting first or second does not decide the winners and the losers of that match. And any team is going to take the advantage of the toss that's why toss is a thing in cricket.
And I think as the tournament progresses the matches are going to be more competitive and close. I am hoping to see some really close matches especially when the big names face each other.
Toss is key element in some areas like we see in recent T20 WC at UAE that team who won the toss and bat second wins the match. I don't know how significant is TOSS in U19 WC games. Teams like PNG are not up to the mark of U19 WC but still its good that more countries are joining in and gain some experience. And I think as the tournament progresses the matches are going to be more competitive and close. I am hoping to see some really close matches especially when the big names face each other.
About new countries coming in this game it's very good I like countries those are coming with their own talent and have players from their origin which is very significant here we watch many Gulf countries are still coming with players from other countries which is never been good for this game and their own sack, but ICC is doing this all blindly which is also very bad management from them.
Right now we have one of most excited ODI in CWC U19 between Afghanistan vs Sri Lanka in this match Sri Lanka was hot favourite for win but right now situation is very interesting as Afghanistan bowled out for just 134 and Sri Lanka while chasing this very small total were 43/7 I was feeling very easy win for Afghanistan but suddenly Captain Dunith Wellalage and Raveen de Silva done historic job for their country and have stand of 69 runs as many were feeling now Sri Lanka is going to win we have another twist and Afghanistan take 2 wickets now Sri Lanka need only 19 runs on 45 balls and last pair is on crease what a classic match between the giants from Asia.
Out of curiosity what historic result you are referring to in context of Rishabh?
On Rahul i agree cause he lead his franchise 2 times and was average skipper but as far as i remember Pant did good job in his last gig as DC's skipper.
I was referring to his stint as the DC captain. He did a decent job, but I felt that he could have done a lot better. Iyer felt like a better captain in comparison. Rahul screwed up on so many occasions as the Punjab captain.On Rahul i agree cause he lead his franchise 2 times and was average skipper but as far as i remember Pant did good job in his last gig as DC's skipper.
I have no idea why Lucknow spent 17 freaking crores to make him the captain again. This made him the joint highest paid player in IPL history(Kohli by RCB in 2018).
Yeah, i also think that Lucknow overpaid for the Rahul, may be he's charging for being excellent batter. His T-20 numbers are juicy or may be they really think that he could become strong leader in future. Everything is possible.
I have to agree because one team batting first or second does not decide the winners and the losers of that match. And any team is going to take the advantage of the toss that's why toss is a thing in cricket.
And I think as the tournament progresses the matches are going to be more competitive and close. I am hoping to see some really close matches especially when the big names face each other.
Toss is key element in some areas like we see in recent T20 WC at UAE that team who won the toss and bat second wins the match. I don't know how significant is TOSS in U19 WC games. Teams like PNG are not up to the mark of U19 WC but still its good that more countries are joining in and gain some experience. And I think as the tournament progresses the matches are going to be more competitive and close. I am hoping to see some really close matches especially when the big names face each other.
That's true and only by playing against the best these teams can learn from their mistakes, right?
If they don't play against these big names then they will never be able to you actually pick out the mistakes that they are making in the match.
Yes, they might lose and chances are they will. But they can learn from their mistakes and solve them. We also see a lot of great players give advice to a lot of younger players in the opponent and point out the mistakes that they make in the game. This type of sportsmanship is really good to see and really helpful for cricket in long run.
Out of curiosity what historic result you are referring to in context of Rishabh?
On Rahul i agree cause he lead his franchise 2 times and was average skipper but as far as i remember Pant did good job in his last gig as DC's skipper.
I was referring to his stint as the DC captain. He did a decent job, but I felt that he could have done a lot better. Iyer felt like a better captain in comparison. Rahul screwed up on so many occasions as the Punjab captain.On Rahul i agree cause he lead his franchise 2 times and was average skipper but as far as i remember Pant did good job in his last gig as DC's skipper.
I have no idea why Lucknow spent 17 freaking crores to make him the captain again. This made him the joint highest paid player in IPL history(Kohli by RCB in 2018).
I think that they are trying to search for the players who are better as Captain and making them prepared for pressure situations from the start. so that they will not get tilted and will be able to handle the pressure match better than before.
As India needs desperately searching for the best captain right now, I think that they are making a situation where they don't have to do that again in the future, and that is why they are giving these youngsters more and more chances to prove themselves.
Out of curiosity what historic result you are referring to in context of Rishabh?
On Rahul i agree cause he lead his franchise 2 times and was average skipper but as far as i remember Pant did good job in his last gig as DC's skipper.
I was referring to his stint as the DC captain. He did a decent job, but I felt that he could have done a lot better. Iyer felt like a better captain in comparison. Rahul screwed up on so many occasions as the Punjab captain.On Rahul i agree cause he lead his franchise 2 times and was average skipper but as far as i remember Pant did good job in his last gig as DC's skipper.
I have no idea why Lucknow spent 17 freaking crores to make him the captain again. This made him the joint highest paid player in IPL history(Kohli by RCB in 2018).
I have to agree because one team batting first or second does not decide the winners and the losers of that match. And any team is going to take the advantage of the toss that's why toss is a thing in cricket.
And I think as the tournament progresses the matches are going to be more competitive and close. I am hoping to see some really close matches especially when the big names face each other.
Toss is key element in some areas like we see in recent T20 WC at UAE that team who won the toss and bat second wins the match. I don't know how significant is TOSS in U19 WC games. Teams like PNG are not up to the mark of U19 WC but still its good that more countries are joining in and gain some experience.
I have to agree because one team batting first or second does not decide the winners and the losers of that match. And any team is going to take the advantage of the toss that's why toss is a thing in cricket.
And I think as the tournament progresses the matches are going to be more competitive and close. I am hoping to see some really close matches especially when the big names face each other.
Toss is key element in some areas like we see in recent T20 WC at UAE that team who won the toss and bat second wins the match. I don't know how significant is TOSS in U19 WC games. Teams like PNG are not up to the mark of U19 WC but still its good that more countries are joining in and gain some experience.
In all the three matches Afghanistan was batting first. In the first match Netherlands won the toss and elected to bowl. In the last two matches Afghanistan won the toss and elected to bat first. Maybe if Netherlands have bat first, they might've touched 200 runs. Anyhow the team is slowly making its move. Compared to the strength of Afghanistan, Netherlands need to improve lot.
So are you suggesting that if the Netherlands had batted first, the results would have been different? I don't think that would be the case. Afghanistan team had more experience than the Netherlands team.
Coming to the U19 world cup, the interesting Quarterfinals stage has started and today England is playing against South Africa. Although most of the matches were one-sided, I hope the knock out stages will produce more close matches.
I have to agree because one team batting first or second does not decide the winners and the losers of that match. And any team is going to take the advantage of the toss that's why toss is a thing in cricket.
And I think as the tournament progresses the matches are going to be more competitive and close. I am hoping to see some really close matches especially when the big names face each other.
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Players like Rahul, Pant etc aren't great captains based on historical results which is why they should stick to their batsman roles in my opinion.
Out of curiosity what historic result you are referring to in context of Rishabh? Players like Rahul, Pant etc aren't great captains based on historical results which is why they should stick to their batsman roles in my opinion.
On Rahul i agree cause he lead his franchise 2 times and was average skipper but as far as i remember Pant did good job in his last gig as DC's skipper.
In all the three matches Afghanistan was batting first. In the first match Netherlands won the toss and elected to bowl. In the last two matches Afghanistan won the toss and elected to bat first. Maybe if Netherlands have bat first, they might've touched 200 runs. Anyhow the team is slowly making its move. Compared to the strength of Afghanistan, Netherlands need to improve lot.
So are you suggesting that if the Netherlands had batted first, the results would have been different? I don't think that would be the case. Afghanistan team had more experience than the Netherlands team.
Coming to the U19 world cup, the interesting Quarterfinals stage has started and today England is playing against South Africa. Although most of the matches were one-sided, I hope the knock out stages will produce more close matches.
I watched some of the matches live on FanCode and I need to say that the Dutch batting was extremely disappointing. The batsmen looked completely clueless (with the exception of Ackerman and Edwards). This time some of the senior batsmen were not available and the KNCB decided to give opportunity for younger players like Bas de Leede, Boris Gorlee and Saqib Zulfiqar. Unfortunately none of them became successful. Their bowlers did well, but they failed in the batting department. And the captain (Pieter Seelaar) was a complete waste.
So we can say that Netherland is not getting the test status very soon. Netherlands cricket team is very old as compared to Afghanistan and also they have good sporting facilities but still there level of game is not improving. It may be because not many are interested in cricket in Netherlands.
Regard the captaincy of KL Rahul, he will be under immense pressure to lead the team when majority of the batsman were struggling and that pressure may have impacted his personal performance as a batsman in the ODI series. Either give him time or find a replacement.
I felt that Kohli should have remained as the test and ODI captain while Rohit should have been assigned the T-20 captaincy role before. With Kohli out, Rohit should take over captaincy duties across all formats.Players like Rahul, Pant etc aren't great captains based on historical results which is why they should stick to their batsman roles in my opinion.
In all the three matches Afghanistan was batting first. In the first match Netherlands won the toss and elected to bowl. In the last two matches Afghanistan won the toss and elected to bat first. Maybe if Netherlands have bat first, they might've touched 200 runs. Anyhow the team is slowly making its move. Compared to the strength of Afghanistan, Netherlands need to improve lot.
I watched some of the matches live on FanCode and I need to say that the Dutch batting was extremely disappointing. The batsmen looked completely clueless (with the exception of Ackerman and Edwards). This time some of the senior batsmen were not available and the KNCB decided to give opportunity for younger players like Bas de Leede, Boris Gorlee and Saqib Zulfiqar. Unfortunately none of them became successful. Their bowlers did well, but they failed in the batting department. And the captain (Pieter Seelaar) was a complete waste.
I won’t say Pant played bad but could he have played better then the answer is yes, he has the power to be a match winner and the coach now needs to tell him to start playing smartly rather than hit every ball he sees. Another reason given by commentators was Rahul looked confused and he’s yet not ready to captain the team, so will Rohit perform better I feel the answer is yes because of his experience.
It is difficult to tame a player like Rishabh Pant where he performs if there is no restrictions set on him. The majority of his performance happened when there was no expectation from him and he performed well and came out with outstanding performance in Test matches and won the game. Regard the captaincy of KL Rahul, he will be under immense pressure to lead the team when majority of the batsman were struggling and that pressure may have impacted his personal performance as a batsman in the ODI series. Either give him time or find a replacement.
Leave KL captaincy speculation for a sec. India is facing big middle order crisis in limited over cricket for so long, before this series KL was batting beautifully at the middle order in ODI with average of 50-ish, considering how badly India is searching for middle order batter, why try him at top order? Cause he wont get any chance to open once Rohit is back. Instead they could have try some new guy (Ruturaj etc) for backup opener and keep KL for middle order along with Shreyas etc.
I won’t say Pant played bad but could he have played better then the answer is yes, he has the power to be a match winner and the coach now needs to tell him to start playing smartly rather than hit every ball he sees. Another reason given by commentators was Rahul looked confused and he’s yet not ready to captain the team, so will Rohit perform better I feel the answer is yes because of his experience.
It is difficult to tame a player like Rishabh Pant where he performs if there is no restrictions set on him. The majority of his performance happened when there was no expectation from him and he performed well and came out with outstanding performance in Test matches and won the game. Regard the captaincy of KL Rahul, he will be under immense pressure to lead the team when majority of the batsman were struggling and that pressure may have impacted his personal performance as a batsman in the ODI series. Either give him time or find a replacement.
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