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Quote from: ene1980 on October 09, 2021, 04:36:36 AM

Why would Bangladesh Premier League schedule their tournament alongside BBL which is a successful franchise. I have viewed a few matches and they need to be more competitive to attract a huge fan following. The major obstacle i believe is the amount of money they can spent every season and if they are able to get more sponsors then they can attract other T20 specialist around the world and make the matches more attractive and competitive.

There is no competition between BBL and Bangla Premier League because Australia is one of well established country they have big market and well organized sponsors just because of this they are ranked in top 3 Leagues currently. On other side Bangladesh is very new in this way but still doing very good they have good advantage of big population so soon surely they could be also well established, and they will be able to give some good money to players which will bring some more interesting players here.

In next few years they could be one of the best countries for sports, specially in cricket because India is also support them instead of Pakistan through ICC.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 09, 2021, 02:50:30 AM

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Since Bangladesh is a country with a huge population, and cricket is the favorite sport of the people here. In Bangladesh, cricket is now the most popular sport compared to other sports. So the board will benefit a lot if they organize their own franchise league. Because they will get a lot of sponsors at the same time the amount of broadcasting money is not less. Gradually this board will improve further financially.

They have their own franchise cricket league (Bangladesh Premier League), comprising of 7 franchises. The 2021 edition was cancelled due to COVID. The next edition is scheduled for January 2022. Some of the well known international players have taken part in this league in the past, including Chris Gayle, Dawid Malan, David Wiese, Shahid Afridi, Wahab Riaz and Wanindu Hasaranga. But their schedule clashes with the BBL of Australia, and as a result the BPL has struggled to get a viewership outside Bangladesh.

Yeah, I know about BPL. And I bet on almost every BPL match. While not as exciting as the IPL, the BPL is quite exciting and enjoyable. However, players from India and Australia are less visible here. Also last season I heard some rumors that clubs were not paying local players on time. Hopefully after all the trouble, BPL will be held again.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 09, 2021, 02:50:30 AM

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They have their own franchise cricket league (Bangladesh Premier League), comprising of 7 franchises. The 2021 edition was cancelled due to COVID. The next edition is scheduled for January 2022. Some of the well known international players have taken part in this league in the past, including Chris Gayle, Dawid Malan, David Wiese, Shahid Afridi, Wahab Riaz and Wanindu Hasaranga. But their schedule clashes with the BBL of Australia, and as a result the BPL has struggled to get a viewership outside Bangladesh.

Why would Bangladesh Premier League schedule their tournament alongside BBL which is a successful franchise. I have viewed a few matches and they need to be more competitive to attract a huge fan following. The major obstacle i believe is the amount of money they can spent every season and if they are able to get more sponsors then they can attract other T20 specialist around the world and make the matches more attractive and competitive.

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Quote from: Maidak on October 08, 2021, 11:32:10 PM

Since Bangladesh is a country with a huge population, and cricket is the favorite sport of the people here. In Bangladesh, cricket is now the most popular sport compared to other sports. So the board will benefit a lot if they organize their own franchise league. Because they will get a lot of sponsors at the same time the amount of broadcasting money is not less. Gradually this board will improve further financially.

They have their own franchise cricket league (Bangladesh Premier League), comprising of 7 franchises. The 2021 edition was cancelled due to COVID. The next edition is scheduled for January 2022. Some of the well known international players have taken part in this league in the past, including Chris Gayle, Dawid Malan, David Wiese, Shahid Afridi, Wahab Riaz and Wanindu Hasaranga. But their schedule clashes with the BBL of Australia, and as a result the BPL has struggled to get a viewership outside Bangladesh.

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Quote from: wiss19 on October 08, 2021, 12:53:29 PM

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Quote from: GbitG on October 08, 2021, 05:08:34 AM

I don't think ICC can do any strict penalties like this because it's not a sports organization, it's just political wing of few big countries in common wealth, and they are using this just for own sack. Here three countries are very big, and they have one puppet CNZ, so no other board can challenge them right now until they fight for their own sack. In near future cricket is going to be more dead and just leagues game instead of nations games which was few years back just because of really biased policies from very few countries those kill its beauty.
In next few years we will watch few big leagues and never have great moments of fight and passion for cricket.

So this means that we would have many cricket leagues and the nations will only play against each other in the world cup events only. This structure is similar to fifa where we have different leagues and countries compete in major tournaments like world cup or euro cup. If this happens it won't be good for the game.

Things are going in this way and ICC is fully supporting this all because they are not talking anyone about better future of this game no one is interested in fair play all looking for some big gifts and stuff from IPL, so I feel India is not alone big market in world many other countries can also have some good benefit from these leagues even these will not good enough but still these can profitable for them and many local players also beneficiary of this system.

Right now, Bangladesh is also having some good results from local league and Sri Lankan League is also in early stages, so I feel this all will be good for these small countries.

Lets hope that this does not happen and ICC should rethink on their strategies. Although it may be good for the players who may gain more money from every league and also good for the spectators as they will enjoy more matches, but certainly it won't be beneficial for ICC in the long run.

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Quote from: tbterryboy on October 08, 2021, 11:02:27 PM

About Bangladesh, they are already having their own League, and it's doing good for them in start maybe they have no good enough profit but as they are going hopefully in next few years they will be able to have some good profit from this which will help them for their structure and giving good salaries to their players as right now Bangladesh is 210 Million population country, and recently they have some good progress in different fields.

Since Bangladesh is a country with a huge population, and cricket is the favorite sport of the people here. In Bangladesh, cricket is now the most popular sport compared to other sports. So the board will benefit a lot if they organize their own franchise league. Because they will get a lot of sponsors at the same time the amount of broadcasting money is not less. Gradually this board will improve further financially.

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Quote from: tbterryboy on October 08, 2021, 11:02:27 PM

ICC means big 3, so these all are taking some good earning from IPL directly or indirectly, but these are beneficiaries, so you can understand now from where I am heard and talking about this all.

About Bangladesh, they are already having their own League, and it's doing good for them in start maybe they have no good enough profit but as they are going hopefully in next few years they will be able to have some good profit from this which will help them for their structure and giving good salaries to their players as right now Bangladesh is 210 Million population country, and recently they have some good progress in different fields.

It is not actually big 3. Now it is big 4. New Zealand also sides with the big 3 boards on a regular basis and now the big 3 consider the NZC as one of them. But even then, there are 8 other test playing nations. The problem is not with the big 3, but with the lack of unity among the remaining 8 boards. When Pawar/Srinivasan changed the revenue sharing model to favor the big 3, many of the smaller boards supported them. If I remember correctly, the new proposal was passed with more than two-third of the votes.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on October 08, 2021, 03:47:54 PM

I am seeing these comments where ICC is benefiting greatly when they allow franchise cricket, but from what i understand BCCI will pay the local board and the foreign players cricket board. From where you heard that ICC will be earning a payment from IPL.

ICC means big 3, so these all are taking some good earning from IPL directly or indirectly, but these are beneficiaries, so you can understand now from where I am heard and talking about this all.

About Bangladesh, they are already having their own League, and it's doing good for them in start maybe they have no good enough profit but as they are going hopefully in next few years they will be able to have some good profit from this which will help them for their structure and giving good salaries to their players as right now Bangladesh is 210 Million population country, and recently they have some good progress in different fields.

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Quote from: wiss19 on October 08, 2021, 12:53:29 PM

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Things are going in this way and ICC is fully supporting this all because they are not talking anyone about better future of this game no one is interested in fair play all looking for some big gifts and stuff from IPL, so I feel India is not alone big market in world many other countries can also have some good benefit from these leagues even these will not good enough but still these can profitable for them and many local players also beneficiary of this system.

I am seeing these comments where ICC is benefiting greatly when they allow franchise cricket, but from what i understand BCCI will pay the local board and the foreign players cricket board. From where you heard that ICC will be earning a payment from IPL.

Quote from: wiss19 on October 08, 2021, 12:53:29 PM

Right now, Bangladesh is also having some good results from local league and Sri Lankan League is also in early stages, so I feel this all will be good for these small countries.

It depends upon how well they will advertise their tournament and how well they can attract the advertisers to invest in them, IPL successfully did that and so is the reason they were able to earn huge amount.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on October 08, 2021, 06:26:36 AM

Quote from: GbitG on October 08, 2021, 05:08:34 AM

I don't think ICC can do any strict penalties like this because it's not a sports organization, it's just political wing of few big countries in common wealth, and they are using this just for own sack. Here three countries are very big, and they have one puppet CNZ, so no other board can challenge them right now until they fight for their own sack. In near future cricket is going to be more dead and just leagues game instead of nations games which was few years back just because of really biased policies from very few countries those kill its beauty.
In next few years we will watch few big leagues and never have great moments of fight and passion for cricket.

So this means that we would have many cricket leagues and the nations will only play against each other in the world cup events only. This structure is similar to fifa where we have different leagues and countries compete in major tournaments like world cup or euro cup. If this happens it won't be good for the game.

Things are going in this way and ICC is fully supporting this all because they are not talking anyone about better future of this game no one is interested in fair play all looking for some big gifts and stuff from IPL, so I feel India is not alone big market in world many other countries can also have some good benefit from these leagues even these will not good enough but still these can profitable for them and many local players also beneficiary of this system.

Right now, Bangladesh is also having some good results from local league and Sri Lankan League is also in early stages, so I feel this all will be good for these small countries.

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Quote from: GbitG on October 08, 2021, 05:08:34 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on October 08, 2021, 04:02:32 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on October 08, 2021, 03:37:29 AM

I understand that its impossible to see a series between India and Pakistan ever again. The geographical structure is changing very quickly and you never know what will happen after 10 years. But other countries like New Zealand and England, who had their tour planned, should come and play.

Once again, it is up to the ICC. If the ICC impose strict penalties on teams that refuse to tour, then there is a good chance that the cricket boards of SENA nations would request their own governments to provide permission to tour Pakistan. But as things stand now, these boards don't face any losses if they refuse to tour (the losses will be borne by the PCB). It is not fair, if you ask me. But cricket is different from the other sports and things are like this. Hopefully Pakistan will be able to convince these boards to change their decision.

I don't think ICC can do any strict penalties like this because it's not a sports organization, it's just political wing of few big countries in common wealth, and they are using this just for own sack. Here three countries are very big, and they have one puppet CNZ, so no other board can challenge them right now until they fight for their own sack. In near future cricket is going to be more dead and just leagues game instead of nations games which was few years back just because of really biased policies from very few countries those kill its beauty.
In next few years we will watch few big leagues and never have great moments of fight and passion for cricket.

So this means that we would have many cricket leagues and the nations will only play against each other in the world cup events only. This structure is similar to fifa where we have different leagues and countries compete in major tournaments like world cup or euro cup. If this happens it won't be good for the game.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on October 08, 2021, 04:02:32 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on October 08, 2021, 03:37:29 AM

I understand that its impossible to see a series between India and Pakistan ever again. The geographical structure is changing very quickly and you never know what will happen after 10 years. But other countries like New Zealand and England, who had their tour planned, should come and play.

Once again, it is up to the ICC. If the ICC impose strict penalties on teams that refuse to tour, then there is a good chance that the cricket boards of SENA nations would request their own governments to provide permission to tour Pakistan. But as things stand now, these boards don't face any losses if they refuse to tour (the losses will be borne by the PCB). It is not fair, if you ask me. But cricket is different from the other sports and things are like this. Hopefully Pakistan will be able to convince these boards to change their decision.

I don't think ICC can do any strict penalties like this because it's not a sports organization, it's just political wing of few big countries in common wealth, and they are using this just for own sack. Here three countries are very big, and they have one puppet CNZ, so no other board can challenge them right now until they fight for their own sack. In near future cricket is going to be more dead and just leagues game instead of nations games which was few years back just because of really biased policies from very few countries those kill its beauty.
In next few years we will watch few big leagues and never have great moments of fight and passion for cricket.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on October 08, 2021, 03:37:29 AM

I understand that its impossible to see a series between India and Pakistan ever again. The geographical structure is changing very quickly and you never know what will happen after 10 years. But other countries like New Zealand and England, who had their tour planned, should come and play.

Once again, it is up to the ICC. If the ICC impose strict penalties on teams that refuse to tour, then there is a good chance that the cricket boards of SENA nations would request their own governments to provide permission to tour Pakistan. But as things stand now, these boards don't face any losses if they refuse to tour (the losses will be borne by the PCB). It is not fair, if you ask me. But cricket is different from the other sports and things are like this. Hopefully Pakistan will be able to convince these boards to change their decision.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on October 08, 2021, 02:38:22 AM

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Quote from: ene1980 on October 02, 2021, 05:59:03 PM

Pakistan is not even competitive in Test and ODI, in T20 they can be competitive. I would like to see a series between Bangladesh and Pakistan and that would be a competitive match, but if they play against Australia, New Zealand and England there is no competition Cheesy

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Cricket is old funny game. You cant rule out any team that its not competitive. Teams go up and down in performance. England team is one of the strongest these days in all formats, decade ago it was very weak. Did other strong teams of that time didn't played against them?
There must not be monopoly of any board whether its rich or weak.

Those who think Pakistan is not competitive in cricket lives in a fool paradise. You can't be considered on the top just because you have the money, power and you avoid the competition.

Come and play with the champions.

I believe the answer is neutral because there haven’t been consistent series for them, and they also don’t get to play at home which is a major disadvantage for them. However going ahead it would be nice to see them play with India, Australia, England and New Zealand more, as fans too would benefit from these series.

We shall play all of them in the coming T20 World cup (Pool & qualifiers) but lets see who will reach in the final to play with pakistan ?

Quote from: bryant.coleman on October 08, 2021, 02:47:48 AM

A bilateral series between India and Pakistan is not going to happen for the next one decade. And as long as Pakistan plays at neutral venues like Sharjah, neither the board, nor the players will benefit from "home matches". The other team will be having home advantage for their matches, but Pakistan will not have it for theirs. No short term solution for this, unless the ICC actually ask India and the other teams to tour Pakistan. And given the current circumstances, I don't think that they will do that.

I understand that its impossible to see a series between India and Pakistan ever again. The geographical structure is changing very quickly and you never know what will happen after 10 years. But other countries like New Zealand and England, who had their tour planned, should come and play.

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Sorry to take away from the discussions above but just here for hopefully not my final IPL game where my outright MI still have a mathematical possibility to somehow qualify! They have to bat first and then go for 171 runs margin. Impossible right? But worth watching!

My bet: anyone to score >100 at 9.13.

RCB of course I think has the best "underlier" to get their first title.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on October 08, 2021, 02:38:22 AM

I believe the answer is neutral because there haven’t been consistent series for them, and they also don’t get to play at home which is a major disadvantage for them. However going ahead it would be nice to see them play with India, Australia, England and New Zealand more, as fans too would benefit from these series.

A bilateral series between India and Pakistan is not going to happen for the next one decade. And as long as Pakistan plays at neutral venues like Sharjah, neither the board, nor the players will benefit from "home matches". The other team will be having home advantage for their matches, but Pakistan will not have it for theirs. No short term solution for this, unless the ICC actually ask India and the other teams to tour Pakistan. And given the current circumstances, I don't think that they will do that.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on October 08, 2021, 02:00:54 AM

Quote from: blatchcorn on October 03, 2021, 09:12:34 AM

Quote from: ene1980 on October 02, 2021, 05:59:03 PM

Pakistan is not even competitive in Test and ODI, in T20 they can be competitive. I would like to see a series between Bangladesh and Pakistan and that would be a competitive match, but if they play against Australia, New Zealand and England there is no competition Cheesy

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Cricket is old funny game. You cant rule out any team that its not competitive. Teams go up and down in performance. England team is one of the strongest these days in all formats, decade ago it was very weak. Did other strong teams of that time didn't played against them?
There must not be monopoly of any board whether its rich or weak.

Those who think Pakistan is not competitive in cricket lives in a fool paradise. You can't be considered on the top just because you have the money, power and you avoid the competition.

Come and play with the champions.

I believe the answer is neutral because there haven’t been consistent series for them, and they also don’t get to play at home which is a major disadvantage for them. However going ahead it would be nice to see them play with India, Australia, England and New Zealand more, as fans too would benefit from these series.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on October 03, 2021, 09:12:34 AM

Quote from: ene1980 on October 02, 2021, 05:59:03 PM

Pakistan is not even competitive in Test and ODI, in T20 they can be competitive. I would like to see a series between Bangladesh and Pakistan and that would be a competitive match, but if they play against Australia, New Zealand and England there is no competition Cheesy

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Cricket is old funny game. You cant rule out any team that its not competitive. Teams go up and down in performance. England team is one of the strongest these days in all formats, decade ago it was very weak. Did other strong teams of that time didn't played against them?
There must not be monopoly of any board whether its rich or weak.

Those who think Pakistan is not competitive in cricket lives in a fool paradise. You can't be considered on the top just because you have the money, power and you avoid the competition.

Come and play with the champions.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on October 03, 2021, 09:08:03 AM

Your all point is valid because here political influence working too much the boards having funds from BCCI are happy and don't want to talk about this all but other boards feeling bad in this all situation if ICC have some dignity then sit with all members and talk them about this all after this give funds to all equally because this will bring some more quality and better infrastructure in game of cricket like we have in soccer. They are not favoring any country or region working for all countries equally but here just personal likes and dislikes are hurting all setup very badly which can bring more gape and hate between boards in near future.

Well.. this is the way things are in cricket. You can't really compare it to global sports like football or field hockey. In football, even if the top ranking teams like Brazil or Spain makes a mistake, the FIFA will punish them without a second thought. And the revenue distribution is very even. That is not the case with cricket. The big three still treats cricket like their private entity and doesn't care much about the smaller boards. But a part of the blame should fall on the smaller boards as well. Big three + NZ has just 4 votes, while the others have at least twice that much. At least some of the smaller boards sided with the big 3 previously and that enabled the latter to end up with a revenue distribution model that is clearly biased towards them.

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Quote from: ene1980 on October 02, 2021, 05:59:03 PM

Pakistan is not even competitive in Test and ODI, in T20 they can be competitive. I would like to see a series between Bangladesh and Pakistan and that would be a competitive match, but if they play against Australia, New Zealand and England there is no competition Cheesy

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Cricket is old funny game. You cant rule out any team that its not competitive. Teams go up and down in performance. England team is one of the strongest these days in all formats, decade ago it was very weak. Did other strong teams of that time didn't played against them?
There must not be monopoly of any board whether its rich or weak.

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