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Obviously home tours for Afghanistan is a myth, even though India has given a few of their grounds to Afghanistan as their home grounds and I am sure UAE is always available as a venue for them just like Pakistan uses it.

I don't foresee any national teams touring Afghanistan in the near future. Maybe Pakistan may agree to a few matches in Kabul or Jalalabad in the distant future if the situation remains relatively calm. But for the other countries, Afghanistan is a strict no-go zone and specifically so after the Taliban takeover. Staging matches in India and UAE may be convenient for the cricket board, but it is very expensive. They need to pay hefty amounts to the BCCI or the Emirates Cricket Board. And a relatively small board like Afghanistan cant afford these huge expenses.

Is it? I thought the payment they will make can be covered up with the ticketing and telecast revenues because anyways everyone has to pay the match fees to organize any match in the stadium, I thought these boards might also have to pay the same fees the only difference would be that they might have to get approval from the central board of that country. BCCI is always sympathetic towards the Afghanistan team, or at least they were until the US-established government was there in Afghanistan. I heard BCCI even made some stadiums for the Afghan cricket team in India:

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/lucknow-s-ekana-stadium-approved-as-afghanistan-s-adopted-home-ground-in-india-report/story-Ckxb0phs0JA3OwhBJHdedO.html

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Close to million peeps watching at hotstar, i'm sure numbers are very much high but still i won't say everyone is every excited about this u19 team. i watched few games but if i'm being completely honest i'm not expecting any positive or any super star emerging from this touny for Indian team (1-2 might make into IPL but that's it). I hope i'm dead wrong as far as Indian perspective is concern.

PS: Baby de villiers seems excellent prospect for saffa tho.

Majority out of the million viewers seems to be Indians. India have lost its first wicket without taking any runs. This doesn't look like a good start for India. More few wickets will boost England to perform better. As mentioned u19 will add credit to the winning country, but the same won't make big players into the Indian team. Possibly many will get into the IPL league which is the reality with u19. At present there might not be super star emerging out of it, but players who got into Indian team after winning u19 have made big records. One amongst is Virat Kohli.

Indian provider so its kinda obvious.

Anyway this looks like weakest u-19 Indian team in last 3-4 years imo, hardly heard any name in domestic circuit, i meant under 16 or so. Tells you lot about about quality of u-19 in world cricket, quality is going down the drain and its not good for future, no matter who wins the world cup.

Agreed, here not only the Indian team every team progress isn't that big. Through out the entire tournament I find Afghanistan team to be getting stronger with time. This means it is good for the next set of players for the country. From tough condition Afghanistan is doing the best and all the matches they lost were also very close. If Afghanistan team gets better support, surely they'll improve themselves in the upcoming tournaments.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 05, 2022, 11:33:08 AM

Close to million peeps watching at hotstar, i'm sure numbers are very much high but still i won't say everyone is every excited about this u19 team. i watched few games but if i'm being completely honest i'm not expecting any positive or any super star emerging from this touny for Indian team (1-2 might make into IPL but that's it). I hope i'm dead wrong as far as Indian perspective is concern.

PS: Baby de villiers seems excellent prospect for saffa tho.

Majority out of the million viewers seems to be Indians. India have lost its first wicket without taking any runs. This doesn't look like a good start for India. More few wickets will boost England to perform better. As mentioned u19 will add credit to the winning country, but the same won't make big players into the Indian team. Possibly many will get into the IPL league which is the reality with u19. At present there might not be super star emerging out of it, but players who got into Indian team after winning u19 have made big records. One amongst is Virat Kohli.

Indian provider so its kinda obvious.

Anyway this looks like weakest u-19 Indian team in last 3-4 years imo, hardly heard any name in domestic circuit, i meant under 16 or so. Tells you lot about about quality of u-19 in world cricket, quality is going down the drain and its not good for future, no matter who wins the world cup.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 05, 2022, 11:33:08 AM

Close to million peeps watching at hotstar, i'm sure numbers are very much high but still i won't say everyone is every excited about this u19 team. i watched few games but if i'm being completely honest i'm not expecting any positive or any super star emerging from this touny for Indian team (1-2 might make into IPL but that's it). I hope i'm dead wrong as far as Indian perspective is concern.

PS: Baby de villiers seems excellent prospect for saffa tho.

Majority out of the million viewers seems to be Indians. India have lost its first wicket without taking any runs. This doesn't look like a good start for India. More few wickets will boost England to perform better. As mentioned u19 will add credit to the winning country, but the same won't make big players into the Indian team. Possibly many will get into the IPL league which is the reality with u19. At present there might not be super star emerging out of it, but players who got into Indian team after winning u19 have made big records. One amongst is Virat Kohli.

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Close to million peeps watching at hotstar, i'm sure numbers are very much high but still i won't say everyone is every excited about this u19 team. i watched few games but if i'm being completely honest i'm not expecting any positive or any super star emerging from this touny for Indian team (1-2 might make into IPL but that's it). I hope i'm dead wrong as far as Indian perspective is concern.

PS: Baby de villiers seems excellent prospect for saffa tho.

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Quote from: romero121 on February 05, 2022, 11:22:22 AM

James Rew and James Sales have helped the team back on the track to some extent and now England have reached a score of 185 runs losing 9 wickets. Compared to the beginning of the innings, at the end England have managed to score good runs. This time the final is in the favour of India, but we can't come to a conclusion on this. India will try to score in a slow and steady manner as it doesn't have pressure on the required run rate.

Full credit to both James for rescuing England team in this final. At one point it seems like England will be bowled out before reaching 100. They both have given England some hope though I still believe that if India don't do any blunder this match belongs to them .

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on February 05, 2022, 09:31:12 AM

India will surely win this final. England are struggling at 61 for 6 wickets down. I don't think they will be able to reach even 100 runs and it will be an easy target for the Indian batsmen.
Raj Bawa took 4 wickets in 6 overs and is the main highlight in the Indian bowling attack.

James Rew and James Sales have helped the team back on the track to some extent and now England have reached a score of 185 runs losing 9 wickets. Compared to the beginning of the innings, at the end England have managed to score good runs. This time the final is in the favour of India, but we can't come to a conclusion on this. India will try to score in a slow and steady manner as it doesn't have pressure on the required run rate.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on February 05, 2022, 09:31:12 AM

India will surely win this final. England are struggling at 61 for 6 wickets down. I don't think they will be able to reach even 100 runs and it will be an easy target for the Indian batsmen.
Raj Bawa took 4 wickets in 6 overs and is the main highlight in the Indian bowling attack.

They were 71-7 but recovered well, thank to partnership of both James England are 184-7 in 43 overs. Though India still looks favorite here. If England can pose a target of 230+ then it will be interesting match. Bawa and Ravi get rid of top order batsman very early less James Rew and this is hurting india badly.

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Two best teams india and england reached the finals and right now i cannot guess who will be the winner. The team who played better on the final day will be the winner of this year's U19 world cup.

With a dominant performance against Australia, India reached the finals. This shows how well organized and strong their infrastructure is. As a result, India became the first U19CWC team to qualify for four consecutive finals. The youngster did an amazing job and deserve to reach the finals. Indian fans are looking forward to their 5th championship win. If they succeed, it will boost the morale of the senior team as well.

In last decade India is having some good advantages and their investments giving them good dividend, with this all they have very good youths cricket force which are able to replace in near future. Surely it's big achievement for them having place into final 8th time with most chances they will win and have 5th title. I watch few matches and feel it's complete package because fast and spin bowlers both department doing amazing job with batting is as usual have good and talented players those are surely going to have improved their skills with experience.
After India, I really impress with Afghanistan team, but they still need some good time for more experience and having better result in this format now let's watch what happen in Grand Final as India is hot favourite and England is also done good in all previous matches.

This match is going to be really competitive and really close in my opinion because England has done really well in this tournament and India certainly looks unbeatable at the moment.

So, it is going to be a good final match for this under 19 world cup.
Actually, I think that India is going to win because they just look like they are not going to do anything wrong at the moment. But I am also interested to see how England under 19 performance because I am really interested to see what type of team England is going to become.

Both teams have equal chances of lifting the U19 cup today but I will say that India is more likely to win as they have played a tough team Australians in the semi-finals and won it. On the other hand, the England team has beaten a slightly weaker team Afganistan in the semi finals.
Who ever wins today, it would be a great moment in the life of the boys under 19. The excitement and celebration of winnings would be immense and many of these U19 players will be eyeing to represent themselves in the national teams.

India will surely win this final. England are struggling at 61 for 6 wickets down. I don't think they will be able to reach even 100 runs and it will be an easy target for the Indian batsmen.
Raj Bawa took 4 wickets in 6 overs and is the main highlight in the Indian bowling attack.

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Quote from: Tony116 on February 04, 2022, 11:44:48 AM

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Two best teams india and england reached the finals and right now i cannot guess who will be the winner. The team who played better on the final day will be the winner of this year's U19 world cup.

With a dominant performance against Australia, India reached the finals. This shows how well organized and strong their infrastructure is. As a result, India became the first U19CWC team to qualify for four consecutive finals. The youngster did an amazing job and deserve to reach the finals. Indian fans are looking forward to their 5th championship win. If they succeed, it will boost the morale of the senior team as well.

In last decade India is having some good advantages and their investments giving them good dividend, with this all they have very good youths cricket force which are able to replace in near future. Surely it's big achievement for them having place into final 8th time with most chances they will win and have 5th title. I watch few matches and feel it's complete package because fast and spin bowlers both department doing amazing job with batting is as usual have good and talented players those are surely going to have improved their skills with experience.
After India, I really impress with Afghanistan team, but they still need some good time for more experience and having better result in this format now let's watch what happen in Grand Final as India is hot favourite and England is also done good in all previous matches.

This match is going to be really competitive and really close in my opinion because England has done really well in this tournament and India certainly looks unbeatable at the moment.

So, it is going to be a good final match for this under 19 world cup.
Actually, I think that India is going to win because they just look like they are not going to do anything wrong at the moment. But I am also interested to see how England under 19 performance because I am really interested to see what type of team England is going to become.

Both teams have equal chances of lifting the U19 cup today but I will say that India is more likely to win as they have played a tough team Australians in the semi-finals and won it. On the other hand, the England team has beaten a slightly weaker team Afganistan in the semi finals.
Who ever wins today, it would be a great moment in the life of the boys under 19. The excitement and celebration of winnings would be immense and many of these U19 players will be eyeing to represent themselves in the national teams.

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Quote from: teosanru on February 04, 2022, 02:28:08 PM

Obviously home tours for Afghanistan is a myth, even though India has given a few of their grounds to Afghanistan as their home grounds and I am sure UAE is always available as a venue for them just like Pakistan uses it.

I don't foresee any national teams touring Afghanistan in the near future. Maybe Pakistan may agree to a few matches in Kabul or Jalalabad in the distant future if the situation remains relatively calm. But for the other countries, Afghanistan is a strict no-go zone and specifically so after the Taliban takeover. Staging matches in India and UAE may be convenient for the cricket board, but it is very expensive. They need to pay hefty amounts to the BCCI or the Emirates Cricket Board. And a relatively small board like Afghanistan cant afford these huge expenses.

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Quote from: Tony116 on February 04, 2022, 11:44:48 AM

This match is going to be really competitive and really close in my opinion because England has done really well in this tournament and India certainly looks unbeatable at the moment.

So, it is going to be a good final match for this under 19 world cup.
Actually, I think that India is going to win because they just look like they are not going to do anything wrong at the moment. But I am also interested to see how England under 19 performance because I am really interested to see what type of team England is going to become.

For Grand Final both teams are coming out very comfortably but with previous record India is hot favourite for winning this final fifth time because they have some better players in spin and fast bowling with very aggressive batsmen also available on other side England is also having few very good and skilled players those can damage any batting line-up.

Both teams unbeatable in this tournament against good and competitive sides, but we have to wait for last result because on this day any result can happen any player can do some extraordinary performance for his team and country but still I have personal feeling no one going to stop India from their fifth record win in this final against England which also win once this cup.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 04, 2022, 11:58:56 AM

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There are very rear chances of international cricket in AFGHANISTAN in decade or two. Afghanistan will continue to play its home series in other counties. Majority of there youngsters play cricket in Pakistan before getting selected in national side. Let's hope peace prevails in Afghanistan and we see quality cricket there.

A few players from Zimbabwe and Bangladesh have participated in the Afghan domestic T20 competition (Shpageeza Cricket League). And this is the closest Afghanistan has come to attracting foreign players to it's soil. But after the 2017 season, hardly any foreign player participated in this league. And given the current situation, I don't think that it will be possible for the next one decade at least. Afghanistan was emerging as a very strong team, but now their future looks very uncertain.

I was surprised to know that Shpageez Cricket league would take place this year despite Taliban taking over the country. This means domestic talent might still pop out through these leagues in place, but obviously, their exposure would be limited to Local players only you can't even expect that Zimbabweans would play considering the circumstances.

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A few players from Zimbabwe and Bangladesh have participated in the Afghan domestic T20 competition (Shpageeza Cricket League). And this is the closest Afghanistan has come to attracting foreign players to it's soil. But after the 2017 season, hardly any foreign player participated in this league. And given the current situation, I don't think that it will be possible for the next one decade at least. Afghanistan was emerging as a very strong team, but now their future looks very uncertain.

There were chances that after regime change ICC might cancel Afghanistan membership but that didn't happened luckily as new regime ensured that woman cricket will be allowed. Foreign players were comfortable under usa sponsored government in Afghanistan but now I don't think any player will dare to go there.

Obviously home tours for Afghanistan is a myth, even though India has given a few of their grounds to Afghanistan as their home grounds and I am sure UAE is always available as a venue for them just like Pakistan uses it.

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Quote from: Tony116 on February 04, 2022, 11:44:48 AM

Actually, I think that India is going to win because they just look like they are not going to do anything wrong at the moment. But I am also interested to see how England under 19 performance because I am really interested to see what type of team England is going to become.

India U19 team is more favorite than England U19 team. Betting odds is also in favour of Indian U19. Both teams are strong and won every match by dominating against their opponents. However, I also think that India U19 will win the cup as they have performed very well against their opponents. The betting odds is 1.40× for India U19 team.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 04, 2022, 11:58:56 AM

A few players from Zimbabwe and Bangladesh have participated in the Afghan domestic T20 competition (Shpageeza Cricket League). And this is the closest Afghanistan has come to attracting foreign players to it's soil. But after the 2017 season, hardly any foreign player participated in this league. And given the current situation, I don't think that it will be possible for the next one decade at least. Afghanistan was emerging as a very strong team, but now their future looks very uncertain.

There were chances that after regime change ICC might cancel Afghanistan membership but that didn't happened luckily as new regime ensured that woman cricket will be allowed. Foreign players were comfortable under usa sponsored government in Afghanistan but now I don't think any player will dare to go there.

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Quote from: galambo on February 04, 2022, 09:59:51 AM

There are very rear chances of international cricket in AFGHANISTAN in decade or two. Afghanistan will continue to play its home series in other counties. Majority of there youngsters play cricket in Pakistan before getting selected in national side. Let's hope peace prevails in Afghanistan and we see quality cricket there.

A few players from Zimbabwe and Bangladesh have participated in the Afghan domestic T20 competition (Shpageeza Cricket League). And this is the closest Afghanistan has come to attracting foreign players to it's soil. But after the 2017 season, hardly any foreign player participated in this league. And given the current situation, I don't think that it will be possible for the next one decade at least. Afghanistan was emerging as a very strong team, but now their future looks very uncertain.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on February 03, 2022, 04:26:30 AM

Two best teams india and england reached the finals and right now i cannot guess who will be the winner. The team who played better on the final day will be the winner of this year's U19 world cup.

With a dominant performance against Australia, India reached the finals. This shows how well organized and strong their infrastructure is. As a result, India became the first U19CWC team to qualify for four consecutive finals. The youngster did an amazing job and deserve to reach the finals. Indian fans are looking forward to their 5th championship win. If they succeed, it will boost the morale of the senior team as well.

In last decade India is having some good advantages and their investments giving them good dividend, with this all they have very good youths cricket force which are able to replace in near future. Surely it's big achievement for them having place into final 8th time with most chances they will win and have 5th title. I watch few matches and feel it's complete package because fast and spin bowlers both department doing amazing job with batting is as usual have good and talented players those are surely going to have improved their skills with experience.
After India, I really impress with Afghanistan team, but they still need some good time for more experience and having better result in this format now let's watch what happen in Grand Final as India is hot favourite and England is also done good in all previous matches.

This match is going to be really competitive and really close in my opinion because England has done really well in this tournament and India certainly looks unbeatable at the moment.

So, it is going to be a good final match for this under 19 world cup.
Actually, I think that India is going to win because they just look like they are not going to do anything wrong at the moment. But I am also interested to see how England under 19 performance because I am really interested to see what type of team England is going to become.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on February 03, 2022, 03:24:13 PM

Afghanistan could be in better situation in next few months because many countries already in talk with them, and they are already announces few things which are good but few countries those have loses after Taliban victory still feeling they can capture again this all which is just daydreaming because now USA is also realized they have made some mistakes in past and now time for settling things in positive way so most chances we will have some positive improvement in this country in next few months and many countries will accept this current set up which could be good for youths and many other communities because surely this could be big change and their cricket team will also able to have matches with all teams even they will mostly play these matches at the UAE or Qatar.

There are very rear chances of international cricket in AFGHANISTAN in decade or two. Afghanistan will continue to play its home series in other counties. Majority of there youngsters play cricket in Pakistan before getting selected in national side. Let's hope peace prevails in Afghanistan and we see quality cricket there.

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Quote from: teosanru on February 03, 2022, 02:58:46 PM

Afghanistan was a great cricket team in making, only if Taliban is able to install a legitimate government, we can think that SENA countries would consider them to continue the ICC fund, even though what I have read is that Taliban government is also willing to support the cricket team of the country but I am sure they won't allow an independent board to function without their involvement in it and ICC is very strict when it comes to political involvement in cricket boards. Saying anything about suspension is too quick but a win in this world cup might open atleast some opportunities for them.

fghanistan could be in better situation in next few months because many countries already in talk with them, and they are already announces few things which are good but few countries those have loses after Taliban victory still feeling they can capture again this all which is just daydreaming because now USA is also realized they have made some mistakes in past and now time for settling things in positive way so most chances we will have some positive improvement in this country in next few months and many countries will accept this current set up which could be good for youths and many other communities because surely this could be big change and their cricket team will also able to have matches with all teams even they will mostly play these matches at the UAE or Qatar.

To be honest I think that at the moment Afghanistan has far bigger problems to solve than their cricket. This country needs a lot of structural development to be done. I think that this country is still giving their cricket a thought and trying to improve the situation is because they have some really world-class player teams that team and cricket are really about their passion. Writing this was any other country like Kenya or Canada they would have stopped even thinking about cricket at this moment under the situation.

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Quote from: teosanru on February 03, 2022, 02:58:46 PM

Afghanistan was a great cricket team in making, only if Taliban is able to install a legitimate government, we can think that SENA countries would consider them to continue the ICC fund, even though what I have read is that Taliban government is also willing to support the cricket team of the country but I am sure they won't allow an independent board to function without their involvement in it and ICC is very strict when it comes to political involvement in cricket boards. Saying anything about suspension is too quick but a win in this world cup might open atleast some opportunities for them.

fghanistan could be in better situation in next few months because many countries already in talk with them, and they are already announces few things which are good but few countries those have loses after Taliban victory still feeling they can capture again this all which is just daydreaming because now USA is also realized they have made some mistakes in past and now time for settling things in positive way so most chances we will have some positive improvement in this country in next few months and many countries will accept this current set up which could be good for youths and many other communities because surely this could be big change and their cricket team will also able to have matches with all teams even they will mostly play these matches at the UAE or Qatar.

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