It saddens me that I feel the need to write this thread. What you're seeing right here is the result of a
conflict that has been going on for way too long now.
A
conflict which I never intended to, and one which I did everything remotely possible to avoid, but frankly, no matter how hard I tried, it failed.
Taking things out in public isn't normally my way, but hands down, I tried sorting this out, over and over again, and this is the last option I see for myself.
Everything began a few days ago, when out of the blue I was contacted by OgNasty about their current struggles with TwitchySeal/game-protect/et al.
Their messages included vague threats in my direction ("I am disappointed with you and while I move slowly, I cut deep."), aswell as a lot of stuff that did not make sense to me.
I was shocked and confused, it seemed like a big misunderstanding to me. A full transcript of the first night can be found here ->
https://i.snag.gy/ro4AOi.jpg(This is 100% authentic information, which can be confirmed by trusted members.)
I immediately contacted a few guys to try help me putting any sense to it and consulted several members of staff about this, as I wanted to know what exactly was going down.
None had any idea about what was happening or what exactly OgNasty was talking about.
As time passed by, I realized that OgNasty believes I'm the person in control of the accounts TwitchySeal, game-protect, aswell as some others.
A believe which is not only wrong, but also backed up by no evidence whatsoever. Theymos came in on the situation.
They can confirm that there are no IP evidences connecting me to either of these accounts and that there's no further reason to believe I am connected to any of them in any given way.
Meanwhile, OgNasty was looking into ways to release my address on the forum. An address they got for shipping purposes (I've ordered coins a few time from them) and further, an address that has nothing to do on this forum or in public in general. I'm shocked they even tried getting the allowance to do so. To me, that's been a major brech of trust I gave them when trading with them.
Further, one night, without me around, they've had the following conversation in the #cryptocurrency-collectors channel (FreeNode/Slack), which started with the words "
@lutpin: Really should kill himself."
@lutpin: Really should kill himself.
ognasty wtf?
you seriously just said that lutpin should kill himself?
I'm tired of the harassment.
Every day a new alt... I'm done with it.
All because he's mad I'm getting paid for my signature...
No amount of harassment will change it, yet he won't stop.
I'm not going to put up with another two weeks of this.
shutdown the computer = no more harassing
Shutting down the computer doesn't stop them from making threads and leaving BS trust posts.
WoT is there for a reason
WoT is useless...
so your WoT/account is worth more than lutpin life?
good to know
Same bullshit alt games there too.... Mircea Popescu has like 25 different WoT alts.... lol
name them
No, I think people who harass others should kill themselves.
Lutpin is being a piece of shit for some reason...
If someone was harassing you repeatedly, I wouldn't stick up for them...
Og, you can obviously say whatever you want, whenever you want, wherever you want. Do keep in mind that this is a public forum though. Anything that gets said here is pretty much here forever.
Dude is out of line. You can try and blame the victim all you want. I'm not going to silence myself merely because other people hide their comments behind alt accounts.
This is me saying I don't need an alt account to voice my opinion, and these people like Lutpin who anonymously attack people to try and get their way are the scum of the internet.
Not to mention they have no balls.
or maybe you're currently harassing lutpin publicly while some anonymous, as you said, is harassing you
or maybe I actually know what I'm talking about...
guys, this isn't #bitcointalk-drama
I know it's always easier to assume people are stupid, but that is not the case here...
please take your signature campaign stuff out of here
still you claim this anonymous = lutpin. are you sure of this Og?
*sure*
This is about me being harassed by a member of this chat. Has nothing to do with my signature. My signature is my own business.
I thought this was a community of intelligent individuals who wouldn't stand for this type of behavior, but obviously I was wrong.
OGnasty, while that may be the case, I don't see anyone being harassed except for Lutpin right now. And don't confuse that with me having a dog in this fight, I don't
Encourage extortion and stick up for people who harass others. I'm sure that will lead to a better online community.
ognasty: what i've seen here is a death will against a community member here, and this community member is not you
But telling someone to kill themselves isn't going to win you any sympathy points with me.
That's because while I'm being harassed privately, I'm responding publicy, because I do not need to hide.
there's simply no evidence of that lutpin is harrassing you, or is there?
Yes.
this is not about our intelligence or anything like that.
I have proof.
ok, prove it then?
why didn't you prove it earlier!
no need for guessing games when you can simply prove it.
I don't need to prove it to you. I need to prove it to those wielding a ban hammer. They're looking into my submission.
i am wielding a ban hammer here!
Anduck has control of this channel IIRC, he can ban people here
but, as you said Ognasty you don't need to prove me anything.
Indeed.
My reputation speaks for itself. Lutpin's of him.
proof or not, it's off-topic here. Maybe if someone scammed you for a Casascius coin, you can drag it out here. But the fact that the person you are beefing with is in this channel doesn't make it "on topic"
I'm voicing that I'm being harassed. If you all want to look the other way, that is fine.
it's just a bit weird you ask for our help to remove Lutpin and simultaneously refuse to help with this
You're right. His reputation is worthless and banning him from here or btctalk won't stop the harassment, as he's using TOR.
Best case scenario he's out a few satoshi's for a new account and has to wait before joining a new signature campaign.
but, why don't you want everyone to "know the truth"?
I guess I just expected that after 5 years of doing nothing but going out of my way to help nearly every active trader on bitcointalk, people can blame me as I'm being harassed repeatedly.
look, i'd be happy to help but so far you've refused all my attempts.
The truth is I'm being harassed as a result of Lutpin's displeasure at my signature advertiser. You can believe, or not. It makes no difference to me other than having to defend myself to you also.
i am not intending to attack you.
i am going away now, to not escalate this further. :)
good luck og, hope the harasser stops it soon
they usually do after they don't get anymore attention
Me too, but he won't. I'll remove my signature at the end of the month like I said, and all the attacks will still be there.
I haven't posted anything about any of this on the forum either. I merely thought this was a friendly place people wanted to know things. You can go back to discussing coffee and rocket league now.
With all due respect, I can't personally understand why you're getting so worked up about it
OgNasty, I am hereby warning you to keep death threats away from these chats. That's highly inappriopate and as long as I don't see any valid evidence I really don't like you saying that kind of stuff.
(Everyone being around that night, aswell as further others, can confirm that this is a 100% authentic log of the channel and things happened like this. OgNasty wishes me to die.)
As to this day, even with theymos trying to get a hand on the situation, nothing has changed to the better, I feel no other way than going public with this situation.
This has been going on for too long, it's starting to affect my health. I want nothing else than this to stop, I had nothing to do with the people harassing you.
It has to stop, right now and right here.