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Topic: OgNasty: "@Lutpin: Really should kill himself." - page 2. (Read 13483 times)

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So the war is over now,i am sure lutpin added his feedback to ognasty, but I will wait to see what admin says.
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You're right, there were threats.  I just meant the subject isn't a threat and, in my opinion not even that big of a deal compared to blatant lies.

OgNasty bitched and moaned?Huh (Guess i missed that part) ?  Or are you saying that because you have a grudge against him ?
It's hard not to have a grudge against someone who goes out of their way to treat you like shit and spread lies as if they were confirmed facts - and then simply ignore all attempts to defend myself.

Even with grudge and all...pretty sure he's bitching and moaning here though. (and also completely wrong)

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I'm tired of the harassment.
Every day a new alt...  I'm done with it.
All because he's mad I'm getting paid for my signature...
No amount of harassment will change it, yet he won't stop.
I'm not going to put up with another two weeks of this.
shutdown the computer = no more harassing
Shutting down the computer doesn't stop them from making threads and leaving BS trust posts.
WoT is there for a reason
WoT is useless...
so your WoT/account is worth more than lutpin life?
good to know
Same bullshit alt games there too.... Mircea Popescu has like 25 different WoT alts.... lol
name them
No, I think people who harass others should kill themselves.
Lutpin is being a piece of shit for some reason...
If someone was harassing you repeatedly, I wouldn't stick up for them...
Og, you can obviously say whatever you want, whenever you want, wherever you want. Do keep in mind that this is a public forum though. Anything that gets said here is pretty much here forever.
Dude is out of line.  You can try and blame the victim all you want.  I'm not going to silence myself merely because other people hide their comments behind alt accounts.
This is me saying I don't need an alt account to voice my opinion, and these people like Lutpin who anonymously attack people to try and get their way are the scum of the internet.
Not to mention they have no balls.
or maybe you're currently harassing lutpin publicly while some anonymous, as you said, is harassing you
or maybe I actually know what I'm talking about...
guys, this isn't #bitcointalk-drama
I know it's always easier to assume people are stupid, but that is not the case here...
please take your signature campaign stuff out of here
still you claim this anonymous = lutpin. are you sure of this Og?
*sure*
This is about me being harassed by a member of this chat.  Has nothing to do with my signature.  My signature is my own business.
I thought this was a community of intelligent individuals who wouldn't stand for this type of behavior, but obviously I was wrong.
OGnasty, while that may be the case, I don't see anyone being harassed except for Lutpin right now.  And don't confuse that with me having a dog in this fight, I don't
Encourage extortion and stick up for people who harass others.  I'm sure that will lead to a better online community.
ognasty: what i've seen here is a death will against a community member here, and this community member is not you
But telling someone to kill themselves isn't going to win you any sympathy points with me.
That's because while I'm being harassed privately, I'm responding publicy, because I do not need to hide.
there's simply no evidence of that lutpin is harrassing you, or is there?
Yes.
this is not about our intelligence or anything like that.
I have proof.
ok, prove it then?
why didn't you prove it earlier!
no need for guessing games when you can simply prove it.
I don't need to prove it to you.  I need to prove it to those wielding a ban hammer.  They're looking into my submission.
i am wielding a ban hammer here!
Anduck has control of this channel IIRC, he can ban people here
but, as you said Ognasty you don't need to prove me anything.
Indeed.
My reputation speaks for itself.  Lutpin's of him.
proof or not, it's off-topic here. Maybe if someone scammed you for a Casascius coin, you can drag it out here. But the fact that the person you are beefing with is in this channel doesn't make it "on topic"
I'm voicing that I'm being harassed.  If you all want to look the other way, that is fine.
it's just a bit weird you ask for our help to remove Lutpin and simultaneously refuse to help with this
You're right.  His reputation is worthless and banning him from here or btctalk won't stop the harassment, as he's using TOR.
Best case scenario he's out a few satoshi's for a new account and has to wait before joining a new signature campaign.
but, why don't you want everyone to "know the truth"?
I guess I just expected that after 5 years of doing nothing but going out of my way to help nearly every active trader on bitcointalk, people can blame me as I'm being harassed repeatedly.
look, i'd be happy to help but so far you've refused all my attempts.
The truth is I'm being harassed as a result of Lutpin's displeasure at my signature advertiser.  You can believe, or not.  It makes no difference to me other than having to defend myself to you also.

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I don't think you quite understand what a threat is; it is not dependent on whether there is any real base to what is said. For example, if I were to say "I'm going to come to your house and steal all of your Bitcoins" it would still be a threat regardless of my likelihood of following through with it.

If you were to say, "You should send all your BTC to 1BitcoinEaterAddress" would that still be a threat?
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I don't think you quite understand what a threat is; it is not dependent on whether there is any real base to what is said. For example, if I were to say "I'm going to come to your house and steal all of your Bitcoins" it would still be a threat regardless of my likelihood of following through with it.
Whether this threat was blown out of proportion is down to personal opinion, but people understand the language they are using. As if you don't.  Roll Eyes

I am a fool who apparently cannot properly read posts prior to replying to them. My apologies.
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...You didn't even read the thread, did you?

There was no "threat"....


I did read, and i stand by what i said. I only referred to it as "threat" because that's how warmongers in here called it. (By next week they say it was an attempted murder probably..)
btw there are 2 mentions of this being a threat in OP alone - glad we agree how this being a threat is a lie.


...Their messages included vague threats in my direction ...
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...OgNasty, I am hereby warning you to keep death [u]threats [/u]away from these chats.....


.. second page of thread - 33 instances of word threat, 2nd one - 25 times word threat .. etc..  As if someone wants to blow this out of proportion.  Roll Eyes


He bitched and moaned and spread lies in attempt to make himself out to be the victim.  Like a spoiled 12 year old.


OgNasty bitched and moaned?Huh (Guess i missed that part) ?  Or are you saying that because you have a grudge against him ?
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You didn't even read the thread, did you ?

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More or less accurate. This thread is just plain dumb, can't believe some people even consider the "threat"  real.

You didn't even read the thread, did you?

There was no "threat".

The thread was started because of OgNasty's temper tantrum.

First he chose to advertise for Betcoin.ag in exchange for "several hundred dollars" worth of BTC

Shortly after, both Lutpin and I sent him pms trying to pursuade him to change his mind. I haven't read Lutpins, but I was pretty damn diplomatic

Not long after, GamesProtect left OgNasty negative feedback.  At the time, this was the only negative feedback anywhere on OgNastys profile.

OgNasty contacted GamesProtect and did everything he could to get the loan negative feedback removed (without removing his signature)

The following are pms FROM: OgNasty TO: GamesProtect Source: this post
I'm going to paint your other account red with negative feedback if you don't remove this.  Thought I'd give you the chance to do the right thing first.
Here's the negative feedback I'll be returning to you tomorrow if you do not remove the unwarranted negative feedback immediately.  I will be more harsh to alt accounts I discover linked to this account, as well as alerting the scam patrol and moderator staff to do the same.  Please do the right thing and save us both the time and negative energy.

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Leaving negative feedback because of who purchased my advertising?  Clearly this unstable individual and his service should be avoided.
I'm not going to dignify you with any further discussion.  Tomorrow I will leave you negative feedback if you do not do the right thing.  If you send me any other message besides apologize for leaving me negative trust because I fulfilled the promise of my signature auction then I will set your account to ignore.  I'm not going to play games with you..  Good luck.  Seek help for your gambling addiction.  Nobody is to blame for your current situation but yourself.

You do realize that is the forum's policy, right?

If you were to remove your negative trust, I can put in a policy that companies with negative trust can no longer bid on my signature advertising slot.  This would mean I would no longer be advertising for betcoin.ag (or similar untrusted organizations) at the end of this month.

That is the best I can do without breaking the contract I have in place, and is a final attempt at compromise to end this feud with you.


After OgNasty realized his threats didn't work on GamesProtect, he decided to flip a shit on Lutpin and Myself.  He bitched and moaned and spread lies in attempt to make himself out to be the victim.  Like a spoiled 12 year old.  One of the things he said, mid-tantrum, was "@Lutpin: Really should kill himself."  

Since then, he's apologized for saying "@Lutpin: Really should kill himself." and stopped advertising for the scummy website.  

Unfortunately he is too stubborn to admit any other wrong doing, and continues to spread lies about myself, Lutpin and GamesProtect.


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first of all,
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arguing on the internet is like running on the special olympics, even if you win, you are still retarded.
-JRR shut the fuck up foundation

second, AFAIK a person named himself Robertt is always engaging the baseless sexual trolls, resulting his alts banned. if this case is similar, then the person to be more likely banned, is who made the threat first, because this is sort of explicit-deadly threats. if the victim suicided in case, then threatener would commit indirect murder.

i am not intended to involve the flame war, if person who started this flame war, ie either Ognasty or lutpin (not sure) to apologize, this war would be terminated peacefully.

just imo. Huh

You didn't even read the thread, did you ?



This is what I see ^

Hopefully everything between the two parties can be resolved in a civil manner.

 Smiley

More or less accurate. This thread is just plain dumb, can't believe some people even consider the "threat"  real.
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This is what I see ^

Hopefully everything between the two parties can be resolved in a civil manner.

 Smiley
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first of all,
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arguing on the internet is like running on the special olympics, even if you win, you are still retarded.
-JRR shut the fuck up foundation

second, AFAIK a person named himself Robertt is always engaging the baseless sexual trolls, resulting his alts banned. if this case is similar, then the person to be more likely banned, is who made the threat first, because this is sort of explicit-deadly threats. if the victim suicided in case, then threatener would commit indirect murder.

i am not intended to involve the flame war, if person who started this flame war, ie either Ognasty or lutpin (not sure) to apologize, this war would be terminated peacefully.

just imo. Huh
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Typo



What a crappy forgery.

protip: when faking a chat log in an attempt to make someone look bad remember to always spell their name correctly

Now you say this guy isn't lying?? Dooglus confirm that he photoshop his ss proof.

C'mon guys wake up, twitchy is brain sick faggot.

Try to keep up.
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Is it good practice to send messages to those that have deemed your trust with red.
I have red trust since April 2015 and have well learned not to play HYIP scams ever again.

HYIP brings shame on those who use them, like me, posting about your winnings and returns actually gives others a false sense of security.
I am guilty of this myself, and very sorry I did this to those that followed my lead.
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What a crappy forgery.

protip: when faking a chat log in an attempt to make someone look bad remember to always spell their name correctly

Now you say this guy isn't lying?? Dooglus confirm that he photoshop his ss proof.

C'mon guys wake up, twitchy is brain sick faggot.

What's with the clashing opinions?

Typo



What a crappy forgery.

protip: when faking a chat log in an attempt to make someone look bad remember to always spell their name correctly

Busted.

First ajundftd gets busted then Twitchy is "brain sick faggot"? What?
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Typo



What a crappy forgery.

protip: when faking a chat log in an attempt to make someone look bad remember to always spell their name correctly

Now you say this guy isn't lying?? Dooglus confirm that he photoshop his ss proof.

C'mon guys wake up, twitchy is brain sick faggot.
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I love the irony that in a community with an ideology highly focused on privacy and freedom, someone feels it is their right to tell me who to trust and what I can advertise.

Would you feel the same that even privately expressing an opinion about trust issues and morality of doing various things is wrong in a context of some another community that maintains an official trust list and where it is considered just a courtesy when people are telling others how they should correct their publicly expressed trust in manipulating such global official trust list towards the goals of one?
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for twitchyseal Back Off Man stop adding fire of this conflict your not helping here paid shill, its better for you to shut up and leave this thread.

Doesn't twitchy have the  rights to voice his opinions ? Asking him to "Shut-up" and "leave the thread" is intimidating.You're giving him direct orders which is not tolerated in a user driven community.Each and every opinion equally matters until is on-topic and adds something constructive to the thread.Twitchy is certainly doing a great job.You're jumping out of your bounds by being dominant of your orders.

people should watch on wat twitchyseal going to work on here see his post history https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/twitchyseal-538922  this will show up his real agenda, payed fucker.
I don't see anything wrong with his post history.All I see is someone dedicating their precious time to save people from losing their valuable coins on the Casinos that are stealing it.He is not getting paid for it,I may add.So stop bring your personal grudges in the matter which are being openly discussed in the community.Twitchy is equally involved in the case as much Lutpin is.
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the best thing they can do now is to remove each others red paint and move on, so this thread will be lock

for twitchyseal Back Off Man stop adding fire of this conflict your not helping here paid shill, its better for you to shut up and leave this thread.

let lutpin and ognasty fix this.


people should watch on wat twitchyseal going to work on here see his post history https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/twitchyseal-538922  this will show up his real agenda, payed fucker.



Why are you hiding behind an alt account like a coward and talking shit to people who aren't? It is you that should fuck off. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to look through your post history and see who you are.

From what I have seen from Twitchy he is correct. If someone is bold enough to make an accusation they should be smart enough to back their claims up and not come up with bullshit like 'i can't post it'.

I'll add my own accusation against you here. You are a bigoted piece of shit who needs to learn respect. Evidence you say? Your post history.
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so your telling OGnasty is lying about your extortion to him?Huh
Yes.  I am.   And that's not the only thing OgNasty is lying about.  It wouldn't be hard to prove me wrong If he were telling the truth either. 

and you are not lying then??
No.  I'm not lying.  
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the best thing they can do now is to remove each others red paint and move on, so this thread will be lock

for twitchyseal Back Off Man stop adding fire of this conflict your not helping here paid shill, its better for you to shut up and leave this thread.

let lutpin and ognasty fix this.


people should watch on wat twitchyseal going to work on here see his post history https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/twitchyseal-538922  this will show up his real agenda, payed fucker.

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In the end he changed his signature anyway. wtf.

Why are you still chomping at it if you got what you wanted?

Ok, so Og wasn't quite as nice with you as you expected, I get that. But there is nothing to be gained anymore and he's very unlikely (to put it mildly) to become your best friend if you keep pestering him.

Seriously kids these days... I thought I'm a no-life troll but y'all take it to a whole new level.
Because he keeps blatantly lying about me and other people.  How is that ok?


so your telling OGnasty is lying about your extortion to him?Huh and you are not lying then?? how great you are, your going to be a saint for that.
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