I noticed OgNasty changed his signature to another gambling signature campaign? Anyone know why?
Recap:
July 29Hi,
I'm disappointed to see you have decided to promote Betcoin.ag Are you aware of the scam accusations made against them that they have refused to address?
I'm not affiliated with any site, just a professional online poker player with over 10 million hands played on various sites that believes Bitcoin has the potential to solve many of the problems my industry faces.
If you are unfamiliar with the issues with Betcoin.ag, would you be willing to hear me out? I'm happy to explain any or all and provide evidence.
TwitchySeal
I've been contacted by several members today about their issues. There's really nothing I can do about it at this point. I took their money to advertise for the month. At the end of the month I can certainly try to find a replacement advertiser who has a better reputation, but not many people are willing to pay several hundred dollars for a signature ad.
If I were you, I wouldn't take it as a sign I am vouching for them. Take it for what it is, I am taking their money for a limited advertisement.
It doesn't matter how I take it, I already know about Betcoin.ag It's how people who don't know about Betcoin.ag take it that concerns me.
You are one of the most trusted/respected members on this forum and every post you've made now includes a promotion for Betcoin claiming they are "the most trusted bitcoin and litecoin casino". The reason they are paying you so much is because of your reputation.
Betcoin has many issues. The biggest issue, however, is how they handle all the smaller ones. They don't. They simply ignore players who have issues. For the last couple months literally the only place they would respond was in their signature campaign thread.
They recently switched to a self moderated thread, their final post before locking the old one:
Betcoin is trying to buy a reputation they don't deserve.
Please give them their money back and stop allowing them to leach off your good reputation.
You clearly want me to stop advertising for them, so if you'd like to send me 1 BTC, I'll happily refund them and find a new advertiser.
I just want you to understand that your decision to promote Betcoin will have a very real effect on individuals and communities. If you're interested I'd be happy to elaborate on what kind of effects they will be and provide evidence to back it up.
If you're just interested in selling your signature and reputation to the highest bidder, I'm definitely wasting my time.
I've been extremely vocal that I think signature campaigns are evil. I've done everything I can to bring a stop to them. I've even made proposals to limit them to extremes. I also think that gambling is evil and do not support or condone it in any way, nor do I participate.
We are all adults here. Everyone knows it is a paid signature. Easy for you to say to give the money back, but unless you want to put your money where your mouth is, please spare me the lectures.
After the last message, I did not respond or attempt to communicate with OgNasty in any way until August 8th. 7th.
August 4-5User: Games-Protect tells OgNasty to return Betcoin their fee and remove his signature or else he will leave OgNasty neg feedback. (see edit)
- Games-Protect Leaves OgNasty negative feedback. At the time this was the only negative feedback to be found on OgNastys profile including sent/received and trusted/untrusted
- OgNasty sends the following messages to G-P:
August 4-5- User: Games-Protect tells OgNasty to return Betcoin their fee and remove his signature or else he will leave OgNasty neg feedback.
-> this is not true.
- I gave OgNasty a negative feedback like I gave to all the other promoters
- I did not contact OgNasty asking him for anything
- After he realized that I gave him a negative feedback, he sent me pms and threaten me to remove it
Your recap below is correct:
- Games-Protect Leaves OgNasty negative feedback. At the time this was the only negative feedback to be found on OgNastys profile including sent/received and trusted/untrusted
- OgNasty sends the following messages to G-P:
I'm going to paint your other account red with negative feedback if you don't remove this. Thought I'd give you the chance to do the right thing first.
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