[OLD] Eligius: ASIC, no registration, no fee CPPSRB BTC + 105% PPS NMC, 877 # - page 140.

eleuthria

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Quote from: 420 on August 20, 2012, 07:18:51 PM

I did the calculate and my whole post just got erased

thanks guys

miner.Earned += 50 BTC / pdifficult
"pdifficulty" is an abbreviation for "pool difficulty", calculated as difficulty*(2^32-65535)/(2^32-1)

I got:
.0000228223###############
.00002282202593965692 is Mt. Red

Eligiuis pays more than mt. red? or did i calculate wrong

Eligius is currently SMPPS, not PPS. They're similar but not quite the same. It would definitely not fit for your thread which is only showing actual PPS rates (Mt.Red might not even belong there, need to find out if they still pay shares that were part of an orphaned block). As for your calculated rate, you used a rounded number for difficulty. The exact difficulty (2190865.97010286 per blockchain.info) returns the result you have for Mt. Red.

420

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I did the calculate and my whole post just got erased

thanks guys

miner.Earned += 50 BTC / pdifficult
"pdifficulty" is an abbreviation for "pool difficulty", calculated as difficulty*(2^32-65535)/(2^32-1)

I got:
.0000228223###############
.00002282202593965692 is Mt. Red

Eligiuis pays more than mt. red? or did i calculate wrong

doublec

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Quote from: 420 on August 20, 2012, 06:23:32 PM

For more information on how to register your own .st domain go to The Official .ST Domain Registry website at www.nic.st

The managers of the top level .st domain went AWOL. see http://blorn.com/post/29851770158/beware-cutesy-two-letter-tlds-for-your-domain-name

420

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Quote from: muyuu on August 20, 2012, 06:11:23 PM

Quote from: 420 on August 20, 2012, 05:20:47 PM

Quote from: 420 on August 19, 2012, 09:14:27 PM

Does Eligius pay the same per share as Mt. Red?

Is price per share at .00002282202593965692?

http://eligius.st/wiki/index.php/FAQ#How_much_am_I_paid_per_share.3F

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muyuu

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Quote from: 420 on August 20, 2012, 05:20:47 PM

Quote from: 420 on August 19, 2012, 09:14:27 PM

Does Eligius pay the same per share as Mt. Red?

Is price per share at .00002282202593965692?

http://eligius.st/wiki/index.php/FAQ#How_much_am_I_paid_per_share.3F

420

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Quote from: 420 on August 19, 2012, 09:14:27 PM

Does Eligius pay the same per share as Mt. Red?

Is price per share at .00002282202593965692?

Luke-Jr

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Quote from: willphase on August 20, 2012, 04:05:20 PM

Quote from: Luke-Jr on August 20, 2012, 12:50:00 PM

Seems eligius.st is broken at the .st TLD level. I'm trying to get that fixed, but in the meantime eligi.us is working for mining.

Just checking if it's safe to change my mining to elgi.us for the time being, or will this DNS entry only be valid while the .st domain is down?

Eligi.us has been registered since about the same time as Eligius.st and will likely remain functional. Other options are eligius.info and eligius.us

willphase

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Quote from: Luke-Jr on August 20, 2012, 12:50:00 PM

Seems eligius.st is broken at the .st TLD level. I'm trying to get that fixed, but in the meantime eligi.us is working for mining.

Just checking if it's safe to change my mining to elgi.us for the time being, or will this DNS entry only be valid while the .st domain is down?

Will

Luke-Jr

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Seems eligius.st is broken at the .st TLD level. I'm trying to get that fixed, but in the meantime eligi.us is working for mining.

420

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Does Eligius pay the same per share as Mt. Red?

The00Dustin

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dmo580, these are links about the problem and possible solutions:

Quote from: wizkid057 on August 01, 2012, 03:14:01 PM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/eligius-miners-poll-proposed-changes-to-eligius-reward-system-97282

Quote from: Luke-Jr on August 13, 2012, 10:39:14 AM

https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=100301

Quote from: Luke-Jr on August 15, 2012, 08:51:21 PM

change is being considered

Two of these were posted before you started mining (and were the most recent two posts prior to yours), and you could have read them instead of posting an already answered question and waiting for a response. The third was posted in response to your question in a rather timely manner. The latter two go to the same place, and the earlier one is probably defunct, but all discuss the problem you are concerned about in depth, along with future plans for the pool.

muyuu

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I think you should consider (maybe in a separate pool?) a small entry fee in exchange of a guaranteed payoff feature within 1 or 2 days of inactivity. Say 0.1 BTC entry (to be deducted from the initial mining) in exchange of having any remainder paid when abandoning an address (the average amount lost when you can't time this is (0.67108864 / 2)BTC unless I'm missing something).

I know I would personally opt-in to this service for any new addresses.

Luke-Jr

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Quote from: thdvmgbgjn on August 16, 2012, 01:05:14 AM

Quote from: Luke-Jr on August 15, 2012, 08:51:21 PM

Quote from: thdvmgbgjn on August 15, 2012, 08:21:58 PM

Am I correct that the SMPPS could potentially be in debt and as a result it will take *forever* for someone to reach max payout? I've been mining 48 hours now with 1 GHash and I've only gotten paid like 0.10 BTC. I guess that's kinda sad, but it seems like I need to wait forever until I get to my max payout which is over 1 BTC.

SMPPS can't be in debt because it doesn't promise anything more than it has available. The way SMPPS implements that is a big flaw when it comes to new miners, which is why change is being considered...

Well it never pays out more than it has, but it's considered debt because it has to continue to pay out after the miner has quit mining. Thus it's considered a debt. So as more people leave, the longer it will take to pay out the remainder you're owed.... I suppose it's like social security. The last ones in get... screwed.

It's not considered debt, because it's not guaranteed you'll ever get it converted to Bitcoins. Otherwise, this sounds mostly right.

Quote from: thdvmgbgjn on August 16, 2012, 01:05:14 AM

What's the issue with new miners? Is there an explanation for this? I guess I shouldn't have just jumped onto Eligius? I was tired of Mt Red's downtime Sad

Well, as you just noted, "the last ones in get screwed": that's new miners. You're welcome to mine of course, but unfortunately chances are Eligius-Ra will leave you with a lot of extra credit when all is said and done. Sad

thdvmgbgjn

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Quote from: Luke-Jr on August 15, 2012, 08:51:21 PM

Quote from: thdvmgbgjn on August 15, 2012, 08:21:58 PM

Am I correct that the SMPPS could potentially be in debt and as a result it will take *forever* for someone to reach max payout? I've been mining 48 hours now with 1 GHash and I've only gotten paid like 0.10 BTC. I guess that's kinda sad, but it seems like I need to wait forever until I get to my max payout which is over 1 BTC.

SMPPS can't be in debt because it doesn't promise anything more than it has available. The way SMPPS implements that is a big flaw when it comes to new miners, which is why change is being considered...

Well it never pays out more than it has, but it's considered debt because it has to continue to pay out after the miner has quit mining. Thus it's considered a debt. So as more people leave, the longer it will take to pay out the remainder you're owed.... I suppose it's like social security. The last ones in get... screwed.

What's the issue with new miners? Is there an explanation for this? I guess I shouldn't have just jumped onto Eligius? I was tired of Mt Red's downtime Sad

Luke-Jr

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Quote from: thdvmgbgjn on August 15, 2012, 08:21:58 PM

Am I correct that the SMPPS could potentially be in debt and as a result it will take *forever* for someone to reach max payout? I've been mining 48 hours now with 1 GHash and I've only gotten paid like 0.10 BTC. I guess that's kinda sad, but it seems like I need to wait forever until I get to my max payout which is over 1 BTC.

SMPPS can't be in debt because it doesn't promise anything more than it has available. The way SMPPS implements that is a big flaw when it comes to new miners, which is why change is being considered...

thdvmgbgjn

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Am I correct that the SMPPS could potentially be in debt and as a result it will take *forever* for someone to reach max payout? I've been mining 48 hours now with 1 GHash and I've only gotten paid like 0.10 BTC. I guess that's kinda sad, but it seems like I need to wait forever until I get to my max payout which is over 1 BTC.

Luke-Jr

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New poll: https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=100301

wizkid057

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I have started a poll for voting on modifications to Eligius's payout system.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/eligius-miners-poll-proposed-changes-to-eligius-reward-system-97282

I urge all Eligius miners to vote on the topic as soon as possible.

-wk

Luke-Jr

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Quote from: ehmdjii on July 21, 2012, 06:57:31 AM

btw, do you have any news, when the payout "after one week of inactivity" would work?

After a week of inactivity. Unfortunately, that rule doesn't mesh well with SMPPS since it keeps addresses pretty much constantly active during EC mode. Any ideas for some better logic?

ehmdjii

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good work, Luke.

btw, do you have any news, when the payout "after one week of inactivity" would work?

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