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Topic: [OLD] Eligius: ASIC, no registration, no fee CPPSRB BTC + 105% PPS NMC, 877 # - page 28. (Read 458150 times)

newbie
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Payout Queue

Total: 1440.33000785 BTC
Block Count: 58
That's a big queue. :-)
Now we know how much WK could have taken if he wanted.

Estimated Position in Payout Queue
820.61279937 BTC are ahead in queue, putting this user's payout after a 32 block delay.

Huh
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1029
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Payout Queue

Total: 1440.33000785 BTC
Block Count: 58
That's a big queue. :-)
Now we know how much WK could have taken if he wanted.

I would love to add trust to him. Dunno how though.

Over 1m dollars in his sole control. Good man Smiley
hero member
Activity: 619
Merit: 500
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Payout Queue

Total: 1440.33000785 BTC
Block Count: 58
That's a big queue. :-)
Now we know how much WK could have taken if he wanted.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Wow, I just noticed the troll posts. Majorly impaired perception on his end. HYIP or Ponzi schemes and bitcoin pools are as comparable as water and sulphur. There is simply no logic behind the thought, as there are no new 'investments' to be redistributed to older investors on a mining pool and hence no reason to get out when the flow of new investors comes to a halt. I need to go short on bitcoins if we are already at a stage where elementary school kids are hoarding 0.1 btc and consider that an investment.

Ok, sutiation right now - statistics don't work, payouts don't work, pool still use your gh/s... Yes it's not Ponzi (looks closer and closer to death like Ponzi/HYIP) but only stupid continue mining here ! Pool not pay !!!

get lost already you and you ASICminer or what ever USB miner you have, you're polluting this thread.
you are only a 10 day old rookie (and probaly mining for less time than this) who's got no fuckin idea.  
If you think this pool is stealing from you (which is the best pool) then you going to have bigger problems at other pools.

Bitcoins and mining isn't for you.  enough already and go to another pool now... NO ONE WANTS YOU HERE... GET IT?



That's what i told you - your post looks like post in some scam HYIP ! Yes it's not pay but admin is honest, that server problem, hold still, don't panic, don't post on any forum, that business not for you... End is always one - admin is lost with our money. Because of it i compare situation here with situations in HYIPs.
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
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Wow, I just noticed the troll posts. Majorly impaired perception on his end. HYIP or Ponzi schemes and bitcoin pools are as comparable as water and sulphur. There is simply no logic behind the thought, as there are no new 'investments' to be redistributed to older investors on a mining pool and hence no reason to get out when the flow of new investors comes to a halt. I need to go short on bitcoins if we are already at a stage where elementary school kids are hoarding 0.1 btc and consider that an investment.

Ok, sutiation right now - statistics don't work, payouts don't work, pool still use your gh/s... Yes it's not Ponzi (looks closer and closer to death like Ponzi/HYIP) but only stupid continue mining here ! Pool not pay !!!

get lost already you and you ASICminer or what ever USB miner you have, you're polluting this thread.
you are only a 10 day old rookie (and probaly mining for less time than this) who's got no fuckin idea.  
If you think this pool is stealing from you (which is the best pool) then you going to have bigger problems at other pools.

Bitcoins and mining isn't for you.  enough already and go to another pool now... NO ONE WANTS YOU HERE... GET IT?

better yet link us to your stats, or is that to embarrassing

hero member
Activity: 619
Merit: 500
Wow, I just noticed the troll posts. Majorly impaired perception on his end. HYIP or Ponzi schemes and bitcoin pools are as comparable as water and sulphur. There is simply no logic behind the thought, as there are no new 'investments' to be redistributed to older investors on a mining pool and hence no reason to get out when the flow of new investors comes to a halt. I need to go short on bitcoins if we are already at a stage where elementary school kids are hoarding 0.1 btc and consider that an investment.

Ok, sutiation right now - statistics don't work, payouts don't work, pool still use your gh/s... Yes it's not Ponzi (looks closer and closer to death like Ponzi/HYIP) but only stupid continue mining here ! Pool not pay !!!

I have no clue why you would compare Eligius with Ponzi scheme.
Even if WK would take our money and run, which I don't think he'll do, it would not be a Ponzi scheme.
newbie
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Wizkid thanks for the great work!
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Wow, I just noticed the troll posts. Majorly impaired perception on his end. HYIP or Ponzi schemes and bitcoin pools are as comparable as water and sulphur. There is simply no logic behind the thought, as there are no new 'investments' to be redistributed to older investors on a mining pool and hence no reason to get out when the flow of new investors comes to a halt. I need to go short on bitcoins if we are already at a stage where elementary school kids are hoarding 0.1 btc and consider that an investment.

Ok, sutiation right now - statistics don't work, payouts don't work, pool still use your gh/s... Yes it's not Ponzi (looks closer and closer to death like Ponzi/HYIP) but only stupid continue mining here ! Pool not pay !!!
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
Wow, I just noticed the troll posts. Majorly impaired perception on his end. HYIP or Ponzi schemes and bitcoin pools are as comparable as water and sulphur. There is simply no logic behind the thought, as there are no new 'investments' to be redistributed to older investors on a mining pool and hence no reason to get out when the flow of new investors comes to a halt. I need to go short on bitcoins if we are already at a stage where elementary school kids are hoarding 0.1 btc and consider that an investment.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
As of last block:   0.52066266 BTC   97.67%
Estimated Change:   +0.00960806 BTC   +0.11%
Estimated Total:   0.53027072 BTC   97.77%

Estimated Position in Payout Queue
885.13878168 BTC are ahead in queue, putting this user's payout after a 35 block delay.

Stats back online, let's see where's the troll now  Grin I bet he doesn't even dare to show up anymore

I'm here.

As of last block:   500.52066266 BTC   97.67%
Estimated Change:   +500.00960806 BTC   +0.11%
Estimated Total:   500.53027072 BTC   97.77%

Estimated Position in Payout Queue
885500.13878168 BTC are ahead in queue, putting this user's payout after a 35500 block delay.

It's means digits on some site not BTC in my wallet. Pool still don't pay !
rofl dude u got it all wrong with that hand-editing Tongue

I only told all of you - pool not pay ! Digits on some internet page is not money in your wallet.
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
One does not simply mine Bitcoins
As of last block:   0.52066266 BTC   97.67%
Estimated Change:   +0.00960806 BTC   +0.11%
Estimated Total:   0.53027072 BTC   97.77%

Estimated Position in Payout Queue
885.13878168 BTC are ahead in queue, putting this user's payout after a 35 block delay.

Stats back online, let's see where's the troll now  Grin I bet he doesn't even dare to show up anymore

I'm here.

As of last block:   500.52066266 BTC   97.67%
Estimated Change:   +500.00960806 BTC   +0.11%
Estimated Total:   500.53027072 BTC   97.77%

Estimated Position in Payout Queue
885500.13878168 BTC are ahead in queue, putting this user's payout after a 35500 block delay.

It's means digits on some site not BTC in my wallet. Pool still don't pay !
rofl dude u got it all wrong with that hand-editing Tongue
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
But I do think it's  fair question to wonder why anyone would spend tens of thousands of their own money, and 12 hour days to support something for free.

I just want to briefly address this comment.

As for money, the data center we are hosted at I've worked with for years.  They're very helpful.  Most of the hardware we have is donated, however I have been able to score some upgrades and additional items from donations and such and by sweet talking the data center owner. There are actually a few techs there who have their own mining hardware mining on Eligius from inside the same data center. (How's that for low latency?)  So, we have a good deal of support from various aspects of the community, and it is much appreciated.

When I contacted the data center this afternoon and was going over the issue they were all for getting it resolved and went to work seeing what they could come up with to help without breaking the bank.  Turns out we were able to get a very nice upgrade to the main database server for pennies on the dollar.

I put in my personal time and effort because I believe Eligius is successful, I believe it is the best mining pool, and I believe a legitimate and transparent no-fee pool needs to exist for miners to use to lower their variance without giving up huge amounts of their earnings to do so in pool fees.  I personally want such a service to exist, and I use Eligius myself with my own hardware.

Hopefully this helps.  Thank you everyone for your support.

-wk

WK, do you normally operate this pool by yourself? If so, kudos to you and the work you're doing. You need to be skilled in a lot of different areas to run an operation like this and I know the pain you're going through.

The only thing I have to say to anyone who wishes to question credibility of the pool, is that I started mining for perhaps 2-3 weeks with Eligius early December and then hopped around to a few different pools to get a comparison. I had withdrawn all my bitcoins at Eligius and had stopped mining for around 2 weeks when I discovered that I curiously had an additional pay out from Eligius, worth about half a day's mining at the time. I don't know why I received this additional pay out, but I had seen the pool experience various issues during the time I mined there, and I knew that some manual reconciliation was occasionally required after these problems occurred. No doubt this additional payout was part of a manual reconciliation.

So even though the problems have not been completely resolved yet, I'm still happy to mine at Eligius because I trust what I have seen with my own eyes.

Thanks for all the good work WK.



That was probably payment for shelved shares. I love that feature.
newbie
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But I do think it's  fair question to wonder why anyone would spend tens of thousands of their own money, and 12 hour days to support something for free.

I just want to briefly address this comment.

As for money, the data center we are hosted at I've worked with for years.  They're very helpful.  Most of the hardware we have is donated, however I have been able to score some upgrades and additional items from donations and such and by sweet talking the data center owner. There are actually a few techs there who have their own mining hardware mining on Eligius from inside the same data center. (How's that for low latency?)  So, we have a good deal of support from various aspects of the community, and it is much appreciated.

When I contacted the data center this afternoon and was going over the issue they were all for getting it resolved and went to work seeing what they could come up with to help without breaking the bank.  Turns out we were able to get a very nice upgrade to the main database server for pennies on the dollar.

I put in my personal time and effort because I believe Eligius is successful, I believe it is the best mining pool, and I believe a legitimate and transparent no-fee pool needs to exist for miners to use to lower their variance without giving up huge amounts of their earnings to do so in pool fees.  I personally want such a service to exist, and I use Eligius myself with my own hardware.

Hopefully this helps.  Thank you everyone for your support.

-wk

WK, do you normally operate this pool by yourself? If so, kudos to you and the work you're doing. You need to be skilled in a lot of different areas to run an operation like this and I know the pain you're going through.

The only thing I have to say to anyone who wishes to question credibility of the pool, is that I started mining for perhaps 2-3 weeks with Eligius early December and then hopped around to a few different pools to get a comparison. I had withdrawn all my bitcoins at Eligius and had stopped mining for around 2 weeks when I discovered that I curiously had an additional pay out from Eligius, worth about half a day's mining at the time. I don't know why I received this additional pay out, but I had seen the pool experience various issues during the time I mined there, and I knew that some manual reconciliation was occasionally required after these problems occurred. No doubt this additional payout was part of a manual reconciliation.

So even though the problems have not been completely resolved yet, I'm still happy to mine at Eligius because I trust what I have seen with my own eyes.

Thanks for all the good work WK.

Edit:
And the second I post the pool comes back up.
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
Stats are back up for me - wow I made a lot in the last couple days!
newbie
Activity: 33
Merit: 0
You can voluntarily pay whatever fee you would like. If you go to your settings page you can change the donation percentages. Personally I donate .25% of all my earning back to the pool .10 Pool Hosting, .10 Pool Management, .05 Stats dev. I personally feel that mining for free on a pool is stealing from the operators time and monetary resources which is why I voluntarily pay a small fee.

I agree, so I pay 1.2% voluntarily because I really appreciate the level of the experience on Eligius. And I just sent an extra BTC tip to the stats address because of how much work it must have been to deal with the recent issues. If you've been paying zero fees and you appreciate the level of support and service on the pool, now is the time to bump up your contribution.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
As of last block:   0.52066266 BTC   97.67%
Estimated Change:   +0.00960806 BTC   +0.11%
Estimated Total:   0.53027072 BTC   97.77%

Estimated Position in Payout Queue
885.13878168 BTC are ahead in queue, putting this user's payout after a 35 block delay.

Stats back online, let's see where's the troll now  Grin I bet he doesn't even dare to show up anymore

I'm here.

As of last block:   500.52066266 BTC   97.67%
Estimated Change:   +500.00960806 BTC   +0.11%
Estimated Total:   500.53027072 BTC   97.77%

Estimated Position in Payout Queue
885500.13878168 BTC are ahead in queue, putting this user's payout after a 35500 block delay.

It's means digits on some site not BTC in my wallet. Pool still don't pay !
sr. member
Activity: 334
Merit: 250
Yep apparently it's getting back to norm now, balance looks good and payments are catching up.
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
I suggest unlocked features for donors.
sr. member
Activity: 347
Merit: 250
Just an anecdote of "trust" here;
I moved from BTCGuild to Eligius DURING the db problems.....I'm not worried

Just a thought WK....what % pool fee would you have to charge to make it your "full time job"?
I suspect the vast majority of significant miners would stay even if you did charge a fee.....

I'm down with this idea. So far, in my limited experience, Eligius has been the easiest to use AND the most profitable. Granted, that is very limited experience, but still...

I guess I just like Whizkid's style. I'd pay a fee.

You can voluntarily pay whatever fee you would like. If you go to your settings page you can change the donation percentages. Personally I donate .25% of all my earning back to the pool .10 Pool Hosting, .10 Pool Management, .05 Stats dev. I personally feel that mining for free on a pool is stealing from the operators time and monetary resources which is why I voluntarily pay a small fee.
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