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Topic: [Payout Updates] Bitcoinica site is taken offline for security investigation - page 62. (Read 156711 times)

hero member
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What about the original topic, the payout: when will it start?

The continued silence on this question is especially annoying when the profiles of the general partners show them as having been online (phantomcircuit's last activity was only a couple of hours ago) recently.  It's pretty galling for Bitcoinica customers to see Patrick posting in the Intersango thread but ignoring this one.
legendary
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What about the original topic, the payout: when will it start?
vip
Activity: 490
Merit: 502
zhoutong, you might not need to hand the IDs over, but you may be legally required to keep them for a few years. Keep that in mind.

Sure. I will obtain some info from Bitcoinica LP about this. If any actions are taken I will post disclosures.
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
I hope you have plans to delete those IDs.

They will be deleted permanently once the issue is resolved, unless Bitcoinica Consultancy objects. In that case I'll also post relevant disclosure.

Even though technically I didn't hold any stake in Bitcoinica, but since people submitted these documents due to the trust in myself, I think I have the right to decide what to do with the data.

My own passport scan is also in the repository. I don't want to hand it to third parties either.

There may be a legal limitation on their ability to delete it any time soon.  They'd need to run that by their lawyers, but it may be several years before that information can be legally destroyed (it looks like it might be 5 years in NZ).
legendary
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zhoutong, you might not need to hand the IDs over, but you may be legally required to keep them for a few years. Keep that in mind.
vip
Activity: 490
Merit: 502
I hope you have plans to delete those IDs.

They will be deleted permanently once the issue is resolved, unless Bitcoinica Consultancy objects. In that case I'll also post relevant disclosure.

Even though technically I didn't hold any stake in Bitcoinica, but since people submitted these documents due to the trust in myself, I think I have the right to decide what to do with the data.

My own passport scan is also in the repository. I don't want to hand it to third parties either.
vip
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
Don't send me a pm unless you gpg encrypt it.
If you have all the information that you need to prove that 'fake claims' are a waste of time, then why not pay out already, even if its only fractional until the backup funding arrives.  The only way to make fake claims a waste of time is that you can dispute it.  If yo have strong enough data to dispute, you have strong enough data to distribute.  Get to it.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
I heart thebaron
What interest rate will be provided to users who have been without access to their USD for the last month ?

At this point, if users are not fairly compensated, as USD holdings were never at risk nor were they affected by the security breach, failing to compensate USD accounts with proper interest should be considered nothing more than a SCAM since this entire time, the Bitcoinica Consultancy has been using their users USD to help get out of the hole that they are in.

This HAS to be embarrassing at this point for them, as the original 'Bitcoin Consultancy' was supposed to be a positive force in the Bitcoin community and has turned out to be nothing more than a larger scale scam in comparison to past scams.

I guess it's safe to say that they will simply have to put a price on their future credibility in this community and repay it to the USD accounts that they have profited from for the last near-month.

What a joke.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
Send My Money To: 1HJc5VLMpFCQJg2maP9wGuCo3NAgwaCJQj

Maria.

What's your username and email?

By the way, last time I deposited 100,000 BTC in CoinExchanger and I forgot to take out. Now it says "Final touches on the chess platform". Where's my money?
 
Please send 100K BTC to 12HF626t6VicTAkoUFvzE39oGiaJDRotRt

Ryan.

My husband happens to be very cautious when it comes to database backups so he pulled up your account Zhou Tong:
   
ID    Name    Email                          USD    BTC   Last Login               Confirmed    Account Blocked    Account Status    Actions
62    zhoutong    [email protected]    0    0    11/13/2011 06:06:30 AM    Yes    Not    Open    Close Account | Delete

When and how did you make this deposit Zhou? Please post proof of your 100K BTC Deposit. The shame you must feel must be unbearable.

Maria.

I have records too. But what's your username?

I'm not going to go through 5000+ usernames and see which one is yours.

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That was then, and this is now - that post was made in the first week of operation, and we can assume that your account was easy to identify based on you being one of the first users and knowing the balance from your screenshots. Now, with over 5000 accounts, it's like finding a needle in a haystack.

You know EXACTLY who am I. Stop playing games and keep your word. Crack open that cassacius 1000 Gold Bar and your personal Mtgox Account and start refunding now.  i do not care about anybody else you blame, because in my eyes YOU deceived ME. You Lied, You Sold and you took advantage of everybody else here in the community because we all believed you were the owner and in control. How do you sell peoples private documents without consulting them first??!

Hey guys, Im selling the site to this Tihan guy with all of your verified documents. He happens to be a con-artist who sells fake passports to russian mobsters...

How about You, and all of the other owners submit some ID here on the forum?

That makes way more sense. I again suggest you Pay me via MTGOX CODES Today.

Maria.

Tihan couldn't touch any IDs ever, not anyone else other than me.
The ownership transfer to Bitcoinica Consultancy was announced by both parties, and that was part of the Bitcoinica acquisition. The responsible party is from me to Bitcoinica Consultancy directly, not me -> Tihan -> Consultancy.
I don't know who you are, unfortunately. Tihan saved some records of high value accounts days before the hack and I didn't see anyone with balance close to that amount.
If you are willing to provide your username I may be able to help you. If not I'll not respond to your posts any more.

I hope you have plans to delete those IDs.
vip
Activity: 490
Merit: 502
Send My Money To: 1HJc5VLMpFCQJg2maP9wGuCo3NAgwaCJQj

Maria.

What's your username and email?

By the way, last time I deposited 100,000 BTC in CoinExchanger and I forgot to take out. Now it says "Final touches on the chess platform". Where's my money?
 
Please send 100K BTC to 12HF626t6VicTAkoUFvzE39oGiaJDRotRt

Ryan.

My husband happens to be very cautious when it comes to database backups so he pulled up your account Zhou Tong:
   
ID    Name    Email                          USD    BTC   Last Login               Confirmed    Account Blocked    Account Status    Actions
62    zhoutong    [email protected]    0    0    11/13/2011 06:06:30 AM    Yes    Not    Open    Close Account | Delete

When and how did you make this deposit Zhou? Please post proof of your 100K BTC Deposit. The shame you must feel must be unbearable.

Maria.

I have records too. But what's your username?

I'm not going to go through 5000+ usernames and see which one is yours.

Quote
That was then, and this is now - that post was made in the first week of operation, and we can assume that your account was easy to identify based on you being one of the first users and knowing the balance from your screenshots. Now, with over 5000 accounts, it's like finding a needle in a haystack.

You know EXACTLY who am I. Stop playing games and keep your word. Crack open that cassacius 1000 Gold Bar and your personal Mtgox Account and start refunding now.  i do not care about anybody else you blame, because in my eyes YOU deceived ME. You Lied, You Sold and you took advantage of everybody else here in the community because we all believed you were the owner and in control. How do you sell peoples private documents without consulting them first??!

Hey guys, Im selling the site to this Tihan guy with all of your verified documents. He happens to be a con-artist who sells fake passports to russian mobsters...

How about You, and all of the other owners submit some ID here on the forum?

That makes way more sense. I again suggest you Pay me via MTGOX CODES Today.

Maria.

Tihan couldn't touch any IDs ever, not anyone else other than me.
The ownership transfer to Bitcoinica Consultancy was announced by both parties, and that was part of the Bitcoinica acquisition. The responsible party is from me to Bitcoinica Consultancy directly, not me -> Tihan -> Consultancy.
I don't know who you are, unfortunately. Tihan saved some records of high value accounts days before the hack and I didn't see anyone with balance close to that amount.
If you are willing to provide your username I may be able to help you. If not I'll not respond to your posts any more.
sr. member
Activity: 832
Merit: 250
Send My Money To: 1HJc5VLMpFCQJg2maP9wGuCo3NAgwaCJQj

Maria.

What's your username and email?

By the way, last time I deposited 100,000 BTC in CoinExchanger and I forgot to take out. Now it says "Final touches on the chess platform". Where's my money?
 
Please send 100K BTC to 12HF626t6VicTAkoUFvzE39oGiaJDRotRt

Ryan.

My husband happens to be very cautious when it comes to database backups so he pulled up your account Zhou Tong:
   
ID    Name    Email                          USD    BTC   Last Login               Confirmed    Account Blocked    Account Status    Actions
62    zhoutong    [email protected]    0    0    11/13/2011 06:06:30 AM    Yes    Not    Open    Close Account | Delete

When and how did you make this deposit Zhou? Please post proof of your 100K BTC Deposit. The shame you must feel must be unbearable.

Maria.

I have records too. But what's your username?

I'm not going to go through 5000+ usernames and see which one is yours.

Quote
That was then, and this is now - that post was made in the first week of operation, and we can assume that your account was easy to identify based on you being one of the first users and knowing the balance from your screenshots. Now, with over 5000 accounts, it's like finding a needle in a haystack.

You know EXACTLY who am I. Stop playing games and keep your word. Crack open that cassacius 1000 Gold Bar and your personal Mtgox Account and start refunding now.  i do not care about anybody else you blame, because in my eyes YOU deceived ME. You Lied, You Sold and you took advantage of everybody else here in the community because we all believed you were the owner and in control. How do you sell peoples private documents without consulting them first??!

Hey guys, Im selling the site to this Tihan guy with all of your verified documents. He happens to be a con-artist who sells fake passports to russian mobsters...

How about You, and all of the other owners submit some ID here on the forum?

That makes way more sense. I again suggest you Pay me via MTGOX CODES Today.

Maria.
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000

Are you saying my claim is 99% Fake? All because I did not submit a claim form during the first week of this mess?

I explained to you why I patiently waited behind the scenes like others because we had faith in you and your service.

Very Briefly, We do NOT TRUST you anymore so we will NOT submit passports or any Identification to you.  We have been doing business with you since the beginning and you NEVER ask me for any type of ID. You were content with my HUGE deposits and trading activity and I'm sure you didn't want to bother with little stuff like that. Now you are starting to bother me Zhou Tong.

Maria.

Why not spend some of that money which you would have used to buy Bitcoinica (*cough*) on a lawyer to file for injunctive relief?  After all, you claim that they owe you ~$140,000 and you claim not to trust them - with all of your accurate records it shouldn't be a problem for you to get a court order preventing the from moving "your" funds until your claim can be properly heard.  It would be more productive than getting into a pissing match on a message board and mean that you don't have to trust Bitcoinica at all.
vip
Activity: 490
Merit: 502
Send My Money To: 1HJc5VLMpFCQJg2maP9wGuCo3NAgwaCJQj

Maria.

What's your username and email?

By the way, last time I deposited 100,000 BTC in CoinExchanger and I forgot to take out. Now it says "Final touches on the chess platform". Where's my money?
 
Please send 100K BTC to 12HF626t6VicTAkoUFvzE39oGiaJDRotRt

Ryan.

My husband happens to be very cautious when it comes to database backups so he pulled up your account Zhou Tong:
   
ID    Name    Email                          USD    BTC   Last Login               Confirmed    Account Blocked    Account Status    Actions
62    zhoutong    [email protected]    0    0    11/13/2011 06:06:30 AM    Yes    Not    Open    Close Account | Delete

When and how did you make this deposit Zhou? Please post proof of your 100K BTC Deposit. The shame you must feel must be unbearable.

Maria.

I have records too. But what's your username?

I'm not going to go through 5000+ usernames and see which one is yours.
sr. member
Activity: 832
Merit: 250
Send My Money To: 1HJc5VLMpFCQJg2maP9wGuCo3NAgwaCJQj

Maria.

What's your username and email?

By the way, last time I deposited 100,000 BTC in CoinExchanger and I forgot to take out. Now it says "Final touches on the chess platform". Where's my money?
 
Please send 100K BTC to 12HF626t6VicTAkoUFvzE39oGiaJDRotRt

Ryan.

My husband happens to be very cautious when it comes to database backups so he pulled up your account Zhou Tong:
   
ID    Name    Email                          USD    BTC   Last Login               Confirmed    Account Blocked    Account Status    Actions
62    zhoutong    [email protected]    0    0    11/13/2011 06:06:30 AM    Yes    Not    Open    Close Account | Delete

When and how did you make this deposit Zhou? Please post proof of your 100K BTC Deposit. The shame you must feel must be unbearable.

Maria.
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 500
What's your username and email?

By the way, last time I deposited 100,000 BTC in CoinExchanger and I forgot to take out. Now it says "Final touches on the chess platform". Where's my money?

Please send 100K BTC to 12HF626t6VicTAkoUFvzE39oGiaJDRotRt

Ryan.

Who the hell is "Ryan"
Who is posting here as "zoutong"?
Did you quote from somewhere? please clarify!
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1001
Send My Money To: 1HJc5VLMpFCQJg2maP9wGuCo3NAgwaCJQj

Maria.

Please send 100K BTC to 12HF626t6VicTAkoUFvzE39oGiaJDRotRt

Ryan.

Touché! Laughing out loud =)

Edit: -----------------------> guy after me didn't get it.
vip
Activity: 490
Merit: 502
Send My Money To: 1HJc5VLMpFCQJg2maP9wGuCo3NAgwaCJQj

Maria.

What's your username and email?

By the way, last time I deposited 100,000 BTC in CoinExchanger and I forgot to take out. Now it says "Final touches on the chess platform". Where's my money?

Please send 100K BTC to 12HF626t6VicTAkoUFvzE39oGiaJDRotRt

Ryan.
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
You are WRONG!
I want my money Zhou. When I signed up you were the only owner and my money was placed in your hands with trust. Then you sell the company without letting me know. I do not know who is Tihan or Genjix or Donald. if you would have told me you were selling your company 2 things could have happenef.

1- i would offered you a substantial amount of money and bought it from you.

2- I would have cash out all my bitcoins and USD until the owner change was complete.

You deceived me and others in pretending you still owned bitcoinica and taking credit for refunding losses out of your own pocket.


6325 + 9449 = 15,774 BTC

Current Mtgox Price is 5.60

USD 53,244  = 9449 BTC

Send My Money To: 1HJc5VLMpFCQJg2maP9wGuCo3NAgwaCJQj

Maria.
STFU bitch! we all want our money. i think they are working on it.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
I want my money Zhou. When I signed up you were the only owner and my money was placed in your hands with trust. Then you sell the company without letting me know. I do not know who is Tihan or Genjix or Donald. if you would have told me you were selling your company 2 things could have happenef.

1- i would offered you a substantial amount of money and bought it from you.

2- I would have cash out all my bitcoins and USD until the owner change was complete.

You deceived me and others in pretending you still owned bitcoinica and taking credit for refunding losses out of your own pocket.


6325 + 9449 = 15,774 BTC

Current Mtgox Price is 5.60

USD 53,244  = 9449 BTC

Send My Money To: 1HJc5VLMpFCQJg2maP9wGuCo3NAgwaCJQj

Maria.

Nice trolling ! I am also owed 18K BTC at address 17upZsFjg6DKbHMwLpzyzqf2H9JAWTWFSC right now or I sue you !
sr. member
Activity: 832
Merit: 250
I want my money Zhou. When I signed up you were the only owner and my money was placed in your hands with trust. Then you sell the company without letting me know. I do not know who is Tihan or Genjix or Donald. if you would have told me you were selling your company 2 things could have happenef.

1- i would offered you a substantial amount of money and bought it from you.

2- I would have cash out all my bitcoins and USD until the owner change was complete.

You deceived me and others in pretending you still owned bitcoinica and taking credit for refunding losses out of your own pocket.


6325 + 9449 = 15,774 BTC

Current Mtgox Price is 5.60

USD 53,244  = 9449 BTC

Send My Money To: 1HJc5VLMpFCQJg2maP9wGuCo3NAgwaCJQj

Maria.
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