Topic: People keep asking me to borrow money, some of them for betting - page 4. (Read 1870 times)

This is very true. Once a gambler gets to the stage where they can no longer control their own gambling amounts and which money is not supposed to be used for gambling, that stage is very difficult for them to even remember their family.
 
All they care for is how to fulfill their gambling desires, and everything else means nothing to them. Once you see such a type of gambler, al they need is help to get them off that stage, even if it will take sending them to a rehabilitation centre for them to be free from punishing themselves.

As long as I know the money is for betting i wont give it

These same people take advantage of our goodwill, asking for relatively small amounts of money is part of their strategy, because if it's a close friend or relative, the chances of people saying NO are very small and of charging borrowed amounts of $5 or any amount insignificant and so on are even smaller.

I know the economic situation is difficult, but there are people who use this as an advantage to default on others, and generally there are those addicted to gambling, they don't care if you need the money you lent later.

I think when you have no idle money you should not make any buy/sell or should not take any loan. If you take a loan and you make it lost then you will not be able to repay the loan as a result you will loss both yourself and your relatives/friends who gave you the loan.

I think the best way is to not lend money here and there.I know that people who lend money are generally good hearted and a bit more trustworthy than they should.In our time the level of not so loyal and trustworthy persons have increased insanely because of the problems we have most likely from the world economy not being in a great shape,the best thing to do is to stop lending money to "friends" from college and limit lending to only people who are close relatives which we know well and we know that most likely we will have not any difficulty to get the money back.We are living in difficult times.

Way back, I use to borrow my friend money to gamble while I watch him gamble, and sometimes he wins instantly and give me back the money, while sometimes he run at loss and promise to pay me back later. Sometimes he pays back but most times he doesn't pay back.

This made me to conclude that I will never borrow any gambler money to gamble. One funny thing is that they know how to lie very well in order for you to feel pity for them on a different story. What I do is that I just tell them that I don't have any money on me, because they are not in my budget for the day.

Well said, but for me, there is still a limit to my generosity when I fully know that the person(s) are not responsible and would definitely use that money to bet. And if the betting has not been positive to their lives despite betting for long years, why then waste my hard-earned money on them to use it to bet? I can take them for a treat and pay their bills, that's better, and if they like, they should go and bet with what I bought for them...lol But giving them money all the time no matter how little the money is, I will not be doing that. If they are responsible and I am sure that they will use the money for good purposes, why not? I will give them.

I might even give them more, and that's even if I claim I borrowed them in pretence knowing fully well that they might not give me the money back due to their financial challenges. I will still do that, that is me, but my money must be used for a just cause. Now, for someone that I know will always use my money to bet and lose it? I will not dare that having done it a time or two, I will stop finally because I prefer to lose my hard-earned money by myself instead of someone collecting it cheaply from me and losing it as if he doesn't care.

I care about my money mehn! I worked for it.

As a gambler you dont need to be so addicted to in it to an extend that will be making you to borrow money in other to gamble because it will really spoil your life because you can't be able to do any meaningful thing with your life. And when ever they run out cash they can tell all lie just in other to get help from you by lending the some money unknowing to you the money is for gambling. For I will advise you Op, when giving out money to people inform of borrowing it out you should know the kind of people you lend money to because some may not pay back because they don't have any means of paying back, they always hope on the money in there betting slip at the end they will loss because the money you put into gambling is not yet sure that It will play or not so when giving out loan give to those that have something good doing knowing they have every means of paying you back before you will go bankrupt trying to help everyone out.

If they already lied to people and lose that money in gambling, they will do the same thing to other people because they will not stops from gambling easily. They thinks that they can borrow money from other people because they already knows many people that they can borrow the money. That is an usual way that they always do and becomes their habits to have money from borrows money from other people.

If we sees people like this, we can gives many explanation or reason that we don't wants to lend them the money. We can says something to them or we can also lies to them and that is okay because we needs that money to fills our daily needs. We can not just gives that money to them, especially if we have many needs that we have to fills and if we have family, we must gives that money first to our family.

That is good for you because you knows what you must do for those people who wants to use the borrow money for playing gambling. We don't wants to gets trouble from them who can not pay the money to us so we can stay away from them and say many things so they can accepts that we don't wants to lend them the money. They will asks the money and use many reasons but they will not say the truth that they will use the money to playing gambling because those people knows that we don't wants to gives the money if those people says they wants to playing gambling.

They will not keeps their promise to gives back the money to us because when they lose the money, they will not have any money and will difficult to repay us. So we must be careful with them and not lend money to them.

I'm not that kind of person, when it comes to gambling, I'm not lending to those people because I'm concerned of their habit but because I'm not good at confrontation and straight answers and I really don't want to lend them the money, maybe that's the part that we are different and those people that knows me best, if they know that I'm lying to them about something just to get away with letting them borrow some money for gambling, they'd know by then that I'm not going to lend any to them. Regarding promises, I think that if they start to break it, that's the point that I draw the line, they might be able to still pay it back but they can never borrow money from me again.

with those who are addicted to gambling and when they have run out of money they can borrow money by lying, the reason is that they definitely won't say they borrowed the money to use it for gambling, because of course they will say another reason, this is something you have to pay attention to. When we have a friend who is addicted to gambling, don't easily lend him money because it can be used for gambling. It's not that we don't want to help, but we have to be able to see what we are helping him with. It is necessary to consider it because to prevent losses, even if we only lend money but don't gamble, losses can occur because by lending money to addicts, let's just say the money lent is lost. there is very little chance of it coming back.
If you lend it for other things that are in your life's interests, such as meeting your needs, then there is no harm in helping and indeed the act of lending money with the aim of meeting your daily needs is not wrong. and it's true that they could come up with various reasons to be able to get a loan to use for gambling again.

Of course for me it is not as easy as just borrowing money from other people, especially people I don't know because it is very risky if it is really done and even though I lend money to people I already know, I will also think carefully first whether he will really return the money on time according to the agreement because if he violates it, it will definitely be difficult for us to collect it. And I agree with you if we know what habits he does every day, for example he likes to gamble and we are willing to lend him money, it is the same as we will eat the fruit of the simalakama or bear the bitterness of the stupidity we have done.

Small lies can helps us to avoids people who wants to borrow money from us because they will not thinks that we lies to them. But for those who knows us better will thinks that we lies to them. We just don't wants to see they playing gambling, especially if we knows that they can't control themselves better and only lose that money and makes them difficult to repay the money. They should know that we don't wants to lend our money to them and will not force us doing that. They can search for the other people who wants to lend and we guess that they can gets it easily so they can do many things with that money.

It is difficult to lend the money to people who can't keeps their promises to repay the money. Many people ruins their relationship doing this simple matter so we don't wants to get that experience.

We should know who we can lend our money and what their reason to borrow our money because many people can lie their reason borrows our money. We don't know if those people who wants to borrow our money will used that money to playing gambling or to fills their daily needs. But we knows and can guess what they will to do with that money because we really know that person so we can consider not to lend that money. If they wants to used that borrow money to fills their daily needs, we will lend them without asking when they can repay the money because they will gives that money by themselves and they really thank you to us because we helps them. But those who wants to use that money for playing gambling will makes many reasons to us so we are not suspicious about their reason.

yes, that's right, there is no obligation for us to lend money to them if the aim is to use it for gambling, although basically we have to help each other but we have to be able to see in what way we will help other people, if it's with something that's really good it's not Even if there is a problem, he can help financially as long as it is something that is truly positive and clear. Moreover, what you say is true, lending money to those who like to gamble will usually only worsen their relationship with each other, where it is unlikely that the borrower will be able to return the money they borrow.
Of course, it is not easy for gambling addicts to return money, because even if they have money worth half the loan, they will probably think of doubling it on gambling where the end result is predictable, namely losing their money again. To avoid people like that, maybe it's not a problem for us to lie and say we don't have money or that we do have money but can't use it for anything else. Rather than having problems in the future, it is better to prevent it from the start, unless we can assume that the money lent is lost because it is unlikely that they will be able to return the money they have borrowed.

It's very hard to ignore a friend that claims to need our financial help. But, they is always a way of finding out if they'll be using the money for gambling purposes. I've never been bothered of a friend who gambles, still, the moment I discover that the person is addicted. It'll make no sense giving out the money to the player. This will help both of us in a meaningful way. In future when he flashes back and remember I didn't offer such help, he would be glad I did. At the early stage he could be sad.

Although it's for his good, but he'd feel that his needs weren't met and his friend, me, didn't do anything about it. Such players also have multiple things to say regarding their need for money. And if the lender is not careful, he'd give out a huge sum of money. That would, to me, seem like a blunder. Because the money will be lost and the player will meet his next friend for help. I think holding the person down, in denial, when he gets to us, will delay his decisions of having to meet more people. When we refuse, he would assume others will deny him of such help.

Do not do something that it seems a retaliation to yourself. If you don't like to be the one to support these gamblers that are irresponsible and keeps on asking money for their continual gambling, do not help them with it and never patronize their addiction. You're right that they are a joke, they gamble and they ask money for their bankroll. That's inappropriate and that's why if someone wants to gamble, you have to allot budget and money for yourself. No one will fund you despite that you'd say that you're asking a loan and borrowing money, a responsible gambler won't do that.

Because they know that borrowing money to gamble is just the start of being an addicted gambler. And if you lose? what's the assurance that you're going to pay it? These gamblers know how to do it and disturb the peaceful living of their friends or relatives that they're going to ask money. If you are the one who's start to think of doing this, you have to rethink. Please do not cause any trouble to the other people whether they are gamblers too, because from the start it should be your money that you should gamble. And if you can't do that, spend spare money as you gamble so that if you lose then it won't be painful and you'll just stop then because you have no obligation to recover and you have no borrowed money to pay for later.

I even came close to such an unpleasant step only once; I wanted to fraudulently borrow money from a friend to play, but I came to my senses in time and am grateful to myself that I did not do this. I realized how stupid and terrible this was, but I was attacked as if by an obsession with the game, some will understand me what it is when, no matter what, we want to win back. This was a long time ago, now I’m just sure that I won’t do anything like that, I’ve outgrown such situations and the game can’t control me now. Because my interest in the frantic excitement has faded and now I only play with a cool head and it’s impossible to piss me off, I’m above it. I don’t know how and why I overcame the passion in myself, probably my mathematical education helped me overcome this or the support of loved ones, but now I prefer to play only with my own money, because we can’t lose money that isn’t ours, it’s just stupid and unnecessary do it.

Usually, small lies are enough to be able to repel these pesky borrowers because you know that they're going to take notice of the hint that you don't want to lend them money, it will also work where you tell them when will they pay the loan and then tell them, direct to the point that it's going to be a difficult time for them if they don't make true of their promise, this too works like a charm especially for those people that are close to you to some level, the trust that's also a part of the loan is going to be broken, I'd still go with lying to avoid borrowerd, much easier for me and to them, no long winded speech about trust and loans.

I wish it's that easy to just ignore them but sometimes gamblers that asks for money can become a pests and they won't stop until they get what they want. The worst case scenario is that this gamblers will try to pull you down when they don't get what they wanted from you. I've seen it happen a lot of times but thankfully the moderators are fast enough to mute them whenever they beg for money.
When it comes to friends, that's where the hardest part will come. It's not easy to refuse them especially if they have something against you. Blackmail, etc..
It's not a nice thing to happen to a person but it does sometimes. There are gamblers who would take advantage of their friends just so they could continue their addiction.

Yes, it is true that there will definitely be bad feelings if we ask what he will do with the borrowed money if they are people who are not too close to us, and it really happens unless they are one of our close friends, and also yes as I said earlier that if they are one of our friends or when we find out that they like to be involved in gambling then obviously there will be an assumption in our minds that there is a possibility that the money will be used for gambling.

Basically lending money to other people who really need it is a good action where we make it easier for others to solve their problems, but if it turns out that the money will be used for gambling then I think it is clear that the idea of borrowing money or lending money to gamble is an action that will only cause problems in the end, I'm not saying that all people don't have good responsibilities but believe me that when a gambler is given the opportunity to continue his habit of borrowing then one day they will do the same thing again.