Topic: PH Senator pushes a Ban to POGOs and All Sort of Online Gambling... - page 2. (Read 2379 times)

As long as there is a high demand for such a service, there will be someone willing to take the risk and offer it, so it is obvious that it is impossible for any government to eradicate illegal casinos completely, especially when the demand is so high and those behind such operations can get massive amounts of money they can later use to bribe the police and politicians and keep open their illegal casinos for a long period of time.

Next to drugs, I think gambling is really rampant in our country, initially I would say that the Duterte administration might be successful on curbing drugs when he was the President. Enough with that, next is obviously gambling, in the beginning, this POGO is a good source of taxes from the government specially during the pandemic as it provides them with the needed fund.

However, it goes extremes as there could be officials who turn blind on illegal POGO or even cock fighting and then many people died, kidnapped, being ransom, tortured and others. And with that, I do not think that it will be totally eradicated by Marcos and there could be some of his closest friends could be the protector themselves.

They don't want the dirty job but wants to just come and claim the money. That's how they work and they don't want full funding to these operations. So, I can say that they're wise on this but they're wiser if they take over those operators and they run it with full potential and profits. That's how they're going to make more money from it and not that they're favoring the other operations and trying to take down their competitors. If they are against these POGOs and other gambling companies, they should have them all closed and down including all other online gambling operators.

Corruption is something a global problem on which there are really that tons of countries around the world would really be having that kind of set up in terms of those possible issues or those huge scandals or whatever it is on which the government would really be that trying out to divert people or citizens attention via doing or making some another issue on which it will really be that distracting peoples mind or attention and would be totally forgotten with those recent issues or problems and this is how manipulative government would be specially into those 3rd world or developing countries on which this one really that involves those transactions
be made out behind the curtains and there's nothing we can do about that.

If PH did really pushes out a ban to POGO and might be ending up successful but there would really be still those who do ran behind the curtain or simply making operation in the shadows despite of such ban.
Why? There would really be those protectors would really be that trying out to make  those transactions keep running and really that benefiting or recieving under the table as an exchange.
This isnt really that new or shocking anymore and thats why citizens are already that getting used to it, since we do know that there's nothing we do can about it.

It is definitely fishy here, governments are blatantly showing how corrupt they especially those who are high above. Almost every one of the cabinet members of the Philippine government has questionable funds they are hiding and even if they were caught, nothing really happens as the case keeps on getting passed on and forgotten until the next time it'll be checked. Also, they didn't really banned POGO rather it was renamed and they only targeted certain POGO hubs to be shut down.

It is something fishy and I think it is nothing but just like a fact that the officials of the government are corrupt. But as they are corrupted they will not be able to ban but I don't know what will be the net and what will be the net seen by the govt.

No wonder that's why those who can provide huge amount of money to protect their business can still facilatate and that's not a secret as there's location that being pointed but seems the goverment itself are unable to investigate or to raid the place, unlike those places where they directly targetting it's just an easy access for them and there are medias that will report their achievements rigth away, funny to say but that's the reality and it continue from low ranks official up to their seniors hahaha.

There are no more taxes being collected since it's already banned. If these operators continue to operate without approval, it’s likely because they’re paying protection money to the authorities. That’s how dirty things can get and how rampant corruption is in the Philippines. According to an interview with a high-ranking policeman, the PNP is described as the biggest syndicate.

There are others like POGO's whose operations are still continuing in this country until now, as if despite the declaration of a total ban on POGO's, there are still rumors like Pogo's that are still operational; therefore, the government agencies are only shopping for Pogos that they will raid when they don't get anything here.

But when they get big taxes from a Pogo's outlet, the government authorities turn a blind eye to citing or raiding it.
This is what happens in that country.

That opinion is valid if only the government runs those and offers the gaming services then it's much bigger incoming money but they choose to give permission and let other operators to do business and provide services. Chosing taxes instead of getting the full potential profits, I guess those corrupt officials choose to get the tax to make it legal but behind that is where the corruptions happened, there's always under the table deal before you'll get your permits hahaha.

Not hard to control if they would just block it? The problem is that for example, they have the local wallet called GCash. And it seems this app is supporting gambling because they have incorporated it.

So if the government will have it, they can just tell this local app to not support gambling per se.

But the problem is perhaps this local wallet could be under the control of the most powerful personalities in the Philippines and that's why they are not doing anything about it.

Exactly.
The real ones that are running it aren't even named and they're protecting him/her. It's actually better if the government is the one running all of these operations and the entire thing goes to them with all of the profits and everything. But, they choose to tax these licensed gaming operators because they think it's hassle free and have more taxes to collect.

Imagine that? Brilliant… it’s like that’s exactly where they’re headed because they’re just not about to give up everything to the government. They’ve got the resources - they could even run their own casino if they wanted to. And these guys don’t need to be the official owners; they can just operate from behind the scenes using other people as the front.

Well, going in the both sides of liking it and not. Our government seems to be favoring some of these online casinos and they're not mostly crypto casinos. Those that have advertisements in billboards, they're not considered as POGO but then they don't ban them at all and they are not touching them putting some restrictions to what they should really do there. And from the POGO, they're now rebranding them into "online gaming license" for which are still gambling.

From time to time, we have politicians that come up with ideas and policies that effect some segments of the society in a severe ways, and this is one of such instances, because gambling is seen as an entertainment for many people and for that having gambling ban in any part of a country is like shouting your citizens out of some upportunity and privilege to get social entertainment, but then the government is against anything that make life easy for it citizens, so I won't be supprise if at the end of the day, they succeed in the banning of online gambling in that region because this is not the first time government will attack the freedom to f the people and this one ban won't also be the last we will see.

Well, the government of a country can actually control any online Casino if they want and find a reason to, actually, it's very simple to do, all the government have to do is ban the casino in the country, and then reach out to the management of the casino and inform them that they don't want the citizens of the country access to the casino, else, the government can sue the casino, and trust me, no casino that want to run a good business for long wants to have any issue of any kind with the government of any country, so the casino will have no choice but to include that country in the list of their restricted countries.

I believe this is how some of this restricted countries get on that list in the first, and in such cases, this is how some gamblers who force their way into the Casino through the use of VPN get into trouble with the casino when the casino discovers they are playing from a country that is restricted.

Now there’s both offline and online gambling that’s illegal. If the government can’t stop the type of gambling you mentioned, which is easier to catch, how can they control these online casinos that aren’t even based in the Philippines? But you can’t just call those online casinos illegal just because they don’t have a permit here. What’s illegal is accessing them. Casinos with a Curacao gaming license, for example, aren’t illegal themselves, but some of them still accept players from countries where gambling is banned.

And that's where regulation comes in, if they were able to operate in the country, then there could be some law that they have to follow or police implementing it. The problem is none, and it looks like the Philippine government doesn't know about it until there was a hearing on a certain mayor of a town that her name was involved and so they go on the rabbit hole and found all about it.


The Philippines have been known to have illegal gambling though, even in the arrival of online gambling. I remember reading news about some illegal lottery in small towns and it was really huge for those criminals as it rake millions if not billions. What I'm trying to say is that maybe gambling is really deep rooted on the society, like cock fighting which is also famous too in the country. So it's going to be very hard to stop this kind of gambling as society had somewhat embraced it.

POGO is all about online gambling. They have casinos inside their buildings, but it’s mostly for their online bettors, like those live casinos you see on many gambling sites. The issue with banning POGO isn’t really about gambling itself, it’s about the crimes hidden within their business. If they were sticking to their license, we wouldn’t even be talking about banning them. The government was fine with the taxes they were getting as long as people were safe.

But if we’re being real, in the Philippines or anywhere, getting into online gambling isn’t hard at all. There are plenty of ways to do it, and some casinos don’t even enforce their own rules strictly. So, even if a government bans gambling, it’s only within their borders, and other casinos will just benefit from people still finding ways to gamble.

Before a ban on casinos, theres always some illegal casino operating, and when a ban if effected as you said, but casinos that were illegal and those that are legal have fallen into the same category, which simply means that both have become illegal.

But all the same, even if gambling should be banned in the whole of my country, trust me that alot of people, if not all will move into online gambling,, as I myself can't even remember when last I played on a physical casino last on the past.