Topic: Please dont let bitcoinstore fail, your action is needed just about now. - page 5. (Read 24195 times)
March 20, 2013, 09:00:00 PM
Heres my thoughts.Too much stuff.Keep it simple have a few items of each product. Like 1 page.I like to see reviews,so maybe post links or something so we can see reviews on the product your selling.Make sure each product has 4-5 star reviews.Other stuff you might look into is sneakers,shoes.Jordan retro are a good line that always sell.
March 20, 2013, 08:45:42 PM
The http://bitcoinstore.com/ front page's counter puts them at 12% of the needed goal of 850k in sales during the first quarter, the goal is needed to keep them at their current pricing. It is by far the most ambitious push for bitcoins mainstream acceptance we have so far seen. I myself have bought 364$ worth of sdd hardrives. Recieved them and am pleased with how everything went. Im browsing to find something more I could use as we speak, but I can only do so mch. If you care about bitcoin, have some and need any electronics now is the time to act. The counter currently stands at 110,964 / 850,000$. They are beating all or nearly all their competitors in prices, simply because their profit margin stands at what normally goes to creditcard companies.
Seeing the counter as low as it is makes me sort of feel ashamed for this community. We really can and most certainly should do better.
[disclamer: the poster is in no way more affiliated with bitcoinstore than being a customer, who cares deeply about their venture succeeding.]
The time to act is now.
deeply concerned
- Isokivi
Seeing the counter as low as it is makes me sort of feel ashamed for this community. We really can and most certainly should do better.
[disclamer: the poster is in no way more affiliated with bitcoinstore than being a customer, who cares deeply about their venture succeeding.]
The time to act is now.
deeply concerned
- Isokivi
People are not about to start spending btc when it is going up like this...! or until it stabilizes
I am not telling anything new here, but you realize you can just buy extra bitcoins when you spend them, right?
March 20, 2013, 08:38:34 PM
The http://bitcoinstore.com/ front page's counter puts them at 12% of the needed goal of 850k in sales during the first quarter, the goal is needed to keep them at their current pricing. It is by far the most ambitious push for bitcoins mainstream acceptance we have so far seen. I myself have bought 364$ worth of sdd hardrives. Recieved them and am pleased with how everything went. Im browsing to find something more I could use as we speak, but I can only do so mch. If you care about bitcoin, have some and need any electronics now is the time to act. The counter currently stands at 110,964 / 850,000$. They are beating all or nearly all their competitors in prices, simply because their profit margin stands at what normally goes to creditcard companies.
Seeing the counter as low as it is makes me sort of feel ashamed for this community. We really can and most certainly should do better.
[disclamer: the poster is in no way more affiliated with bitcoinstore than being a customer, who cares deeply about their venture succeeding.]
The time to act is now.
deeply concerned
- Isokivi
Seeing the counter as low as it is makes me sort of feel ashamed for this community. We really can and most certainly should do better.
[disclamer: the poster is in no way more affiliated with bitcoinstore than being a customer, who cares deeply about their venture succeeding.]
The time to act is now.
deeply concerned
- Isokivi
People are not about to start spending btc when it is going up like this...! or until it stabilizes
March 20, 2013, 07:18:22 PM
I'd like to buy something too, but I'm having the same problem. I wonder how smart it is to have a Bitcoin store that only sells electronics.
Roger Ver does electronics, it's what he's good at.
So it's obviously smart from that standpoint. I was just thinking while I poked around the store that I'd probably have an easier time finding something to buy if it wasn't all electronics - I'm pretty well covered in that area. I need to buy a birthday gift soon though, so maybe I can find something for that.
March 20, 2013, 07:02:50 PM
I'd like to buy something too, but I'm having the same problem. I wonder how smart it is to have a Bitcoin store that only sells electronics.
Roger Ver does electronics, it's what he's good at.
March 20, 2013, 06:59:56 PM
I think getting goods and services exchanged in Bitcoin is important. Even pass-through services like this one are good because they add to the list of things that you can buy with BTC (= making BTC more useful and desirable = greater incentive for "pure" BTC transactions).
Unfortunately, I can't really help this particular site reach its goal, mainly because it doesn't seem to have anything I particularly want to buy.
Unfortunately, I can't really help this particular site reach its goal, mainly because it doesn't seem to have anything I particularly want to buy.
I'd like to buy something too, but I'm having the same problem. I wonder how smart it is to have a Bitcoin store that only sells electronics. Yeah, Bitcoiners love electronics, but they also tend to be already loaded to the gills with electronics. For the things of type x that they sell, I either already have a thing of type x that I'm happy with and not looking to replace, or simply don't need that kind of x, or they don't have an x with the features I'm looking for. As much as I'd like to support this, I'm not going to just buy something I don't want or need to do so.
Otherwise, I don't have a problem with spending some coin into the rally, it's smart to take some profits along the way, and a great way to do this is just to buy some things you need rather than purchasing fiat. We *will* have some pullbacks along the way, so one will have an opportunity to replenish coins.
March 20, 2013, 06:31:17 PM
You asked for evidence and it is abundant enough that clicking a random page gave it to me. I am actually kind of stunned that you seem to not realize this is axiomatic.
edit: You're trolling right? You aren't actually THIS clueless?
edit: You're trolling right? You aren't actually THIS clueless?
Don't use words you don't understand. Your "theory" is immediately disproven by the fact that the bitcoinstore has already received over 200k USD in orders...ALL IN BITCOIN.
http://blockchain.info/address/1JqjoFF8QZwidrTbfnihGHDeu16pbLia1q
If you had actually read the thread instead of "randomly clicking" it, you'd know this.
You are excellent evidence for much more stringent newbie requirements.
March 20, 2013, 06:30:27 PM
You asked for evidence and it is abundant enough that clicking a random page gave it to me. I am actually kind of stunned that you seem to not realize this is axiomatic.
edit: You're trolling right? You aren't actually THIS clueless?
edit: You're trolling right? You aren't actually THIS clueless?
Don't use words you don't understand. Your "theory" is immediately disproven by the fact that the bitcoinstore has already received over 200k USD in orders...ALL IN BITCOIN.
http://blockchain.info/address/1JqjoFF8QZwidrTbfnihGHDeu16pbLia1q
If you had actually read the thread instead of "randomly clicking" it, you'd know this.
You are excellent evidence for much more stringent newbie requirements.
March 20, 2013, 06:27:25 PM
How do you see yourself in the context of this conversation lol?
March 20, 2013, 06:21:52 PM
I am legitimately stunned. I don't repeat myself for the sake of others inability to comprehend. Enjoy your ignorant bliss lol.
Translation: Mad and can't defend position outside of quoting some guy one time. Super rad.
I can tell you, I'm not stunned at your inability to defend your position. I'll accept that and expect you to no longer post the same arguments without additional evidence in this thread.
March 20, 2013, 06:17:04 PM
You asked for evidence and it is abundant enough that clicking a random page gave it to me. I am actually kind of stunned that you seem to not realize this is axiomatic.
You also only address the counter-point I made that cannot be addressed by finding one guy posting one thing on the forum.
So, thus far your mental armory consists of post hoc reasoning, personal attacks, and faulty logic. Please, I encourage you to continue amusing me.
Also, I'd like to inquire about your signature. Why say you are a bitcoin lobbyist when you neither understand nor support bitcoin?
March 20, 2013, 06:13:13 PM
You asked for evidence and it is abundant enough that clicking a random page gave it to me. I am actually kind of stunned that you seem to not realize this is axiomatic.
You also only address the counter-point I made that cannot be addressed by finding one guy posting one thing on the forum.
So, thus far your mental armory consists of post hoc reasoning, personal attacks, and faulty logic. Please, I encourage you to continue amusing me.
Also, I'd like to inquire about your signature. Why say you are a bitcoin lobbyist when you neither understand nor support bitcoin?
March 20, 2013, 06:09:42 PM
I literally picked a random page in this thread and clicked on it:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151389.80
Nevermind the fact that if you don't posses the ability to reason this out for yourself then you are hopeless in an economic discussion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151389.80
i rather hold my bitcoins it will rise in value 
Nevermind the fact that if you don't posses the ability to reason this out for yourself then you are hopeless in an economic discussion.
Not proof of a loss sale. Hardly proof that this one guy represents an over all trend.
Also, you only admit that you made this argument post hoc. You came up with the claim then went around searching for evidence.
edit: You're trolling right? You aren't actually THIS clueless?
March 20, 2013, 06:08:47 PM
I literally picked a random page in this thread and clicked on it:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151389.80
Nevermind the fact that if you don't posses the ability to reason this out for yourself then you are hopeless in an economic discussion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151389.80
i rather hold my bitcoins it will rise in value
Nevermind the fact that if you don't posses the ability to reason this out for yourself then you are hopeless in an economic discussion.
Not proof of a loss sale. Hardly proof that this one guy represents an over all trend. Also, that guy is hardly the mental powerhouse you want to be basing an evidence on. I refer you to look at his post history.
Also, you only admit that you made this argument post hoc. You came up with the claim then went around searching for evidence.
March 20, 2013, 06:06:23 PM
Those aren't necessarily going to offset nice and equal like that. It isn't even likely that the number of sales lost, due to value people are holding out for, will match up the value BTC actually lands at.
You have a couple things in your argument here:
1. You're working from the assumption that bitcoinstore is losing sales from customers not wanting to spend money due to "deflation". Unless I missed it, you haven't provided any evidence of this outside of just saying that's the case. It might seem right in your gut, but you are making the claim and thus need to provide some shred of evidence. And no, you can't base your argument on pure speculation alone because that's not an argument.
2. You are assuming people aren't smart enough to convert USD to BTC. If I need to buy a computer and can save 10% value by buying from bitcoinstore with BTC over USD at amazon, I'll just buy some BTC with USD and then make the purchase. I haven't bought a computer, but I have done this exact thing for other items from a variety of bitcoin stores.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151389.80
i rather hold my bitcoins it will rise in value
Nevermind the fact that if you don't posses the ability to reason this out for yourself then you are hopeless in an economic discussion.
This is like telling me I can't assume it's going to be hot in Texas in July.
March 20, 2013, 06:03:02 PM
Those aren't necessarily going to offset nice and equal like that. It isn't even likely that the number of sales lost, due to value people are holding out for, will match up the value BTC actually lands at.
You have a couple things in your argument here:
1. You're working from the assumption that bitcoinstore is losing sales from customers not wanting to spend money due to "deflation". Unless I missed it, you haven't provided any evidence of this outside of just saying that's the case. It might seem right in your gut, but you are making the claim and thus need to provide some shred of evidence. And no, you can't base your argument on pure speculation alone because that's not an argument.
2. You are assuming people aren't smart enough to convert USD to BTC. If I need to buy a computer and can save 10% value by buying from bitcoinstore with BTC over USD at amazon, I'll just buy some BTC with USD and then make the purchase. I haven't bought a computer, but I have done this exact thing for other items from a variety of bitcoin stores.
March 20, 2013, 05:53:18 PM
But if the value in Bitcoins are rising, then the profit bitcoinstore.com made off of previous sales is rising rapidly as well. It's a win-win for them either way. They will get much closer to their goal because of appreciation even if they have a decline in sales.
That's only assuming they are not converting the Bitcoins into USD.
March 20, 2013, 05:48:54 PM
LOL. Looks like people want to hold on to their coins rather than spend them.
and you just learned why deflationary currency is a terrible idea.But if the value in Bitcoins are rising, then the profit bitcoinstore.com made off of previous sales is rising rapidly as well. It's a win-win for them either way. They will get much closer to their goal because of appreciation even if they have a decline in sales.
March 20, 2013, 05:30:10 PM
LOL. Looks like people want to hold on to their coins rather than spend them.
and you just learned why deflationary currency is a terrible idea.But if the value in Bitcoins are rising, then the profit bitcoinstore.com made off of previous sales is rising rapidly as well. It's a win-win for them either way. They will get much closer to their goal because of appreciation even if they have a decline in sales.
March 20, 2013, 05:24:57 PM
To be competitive in Europe, it would be really necessary for them to have a warehouse in Europe, so they can cut the shipping cost. I guess there are a lot of folks ready to order - the biggest hurdle are the shipping costs and to the same extent the shipping time.
That doesn't solve the problem of extra VAT/taxes/duties/etc. They would need a local supplier or their current one which is US-based would need to order the products they buy (presumable from China) directly to Europe.
P.S. By Europe I meant the free-trade area.
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