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Topic: [POLL] Should Butterfly Labs (BFL) get a Scammer tag? - page 9. (Read 28063 times)

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Tag as a scammer. Remove tag if/when they ship out their first batch and it's verified working.

These last two weeks have been an inexcusable Vaudevillian comedy of errors.

+1

But we all know there it will never happen because BFL spend to much for Bitcointalk ads per week
legendary
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Tag as a scammer. Remove tag if/when they ship out their first batch and it's verified working.

These last two weeks have been an inexcusable Vaudevillian comedy of errors.
legendary
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Lips sealed

There is no proof BFL ran away or will run away with the customers money. Until there is such proof, one can go mad, rage, whatever, but
can't really call them scammers. They are late, they gave false promises, they might actualy deliver no product at all - still not enough
for scammer tag.

Tom was slow in processing refunds, and he was given the Scammer tag. BFL is no better.
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Lol no they haven't. Name 3 [three] people who have never received a refund from BFL..

Al Gore.
Barack Obama.
Sarah Palin.

(You didn't say that they needed to have an order at BFL at first...)

Fair point Cheesy ..but I also know it's because you can't find people who got "scammed" out of their refund who have ordered from BFL Wink

I have an order and tried to cancel that order without any success. So, you can count me as at least one.
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Lips sealed

There is no proof Lightning miner ran away or will run away with the customers money. Until there is such proof, one can go mad, rage, whatever, but
can't really call them scammers. They are late, they gave false promises, they might actualy deliver no product at all - still not enough
for scammer tag.

You think you are doing the right thing bitching around here but you are doing so much unneccessary additional damage to Bitcoin. Like it
is not enough Lightning miner is late and all other shits happening. Like wasting your and others time posting here will speedup the thing, or something.

Lips sealed

There is no proof primeAsic ran away or will run away with the customers money. Until there is such proof, one can go mad, rage, whatever, but
can't really call them scammers. They are late, they gave false promises, they might actualy deliver no product at all - still not enough
for scammer tag.

You think you are doing the right thing bitching around here but you are doing so much unneccessary additional damage to Bitcoin. Like it
is not enough primeAsic is late and all other shits happening. Like wasting your and others time posting here will speedup the thing, or something.
Lips sealed

There is no proof labsnovo ran away or will run away with the customers money. Until there is such proof, one can go mad, rage, whatever, but
can't really call them scammers. They are late, they gave false promises, they might actualy deliver no product at all - still not enough
for scammer tag.

You think you are doing the right thing bitching around here but you are doing so much unneccessary additional damage to Bitcoin. Like it
is not enough labsnovo is late and all other shits happening. Like wasting your and others time posting here will speedup the thing, or something.
legendary
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Lol no they haven't. Name 3 [three] people who have never received a refund from BFL..

Al Gore.
Barack Obama.
Sarah Palin.

(You didn't say that they needed to have an order at BFL at first...)

Fair point Cheesy ..but I also know it's because you can't find people who got "scammed" out of their refund who have ordered from BFL Wink
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They kind of have done that already.


Lol no they haven't. Name 3 [three] people who have never received a refund from BFL..

Al Gore.
Barack Obama.
Sarah Palin.

(You didn't say that they needed to have an order at BFL at first...)


newbie
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I think it's safe to say that the customers with the real refund problem are the ones who didn't request one in the first place.  It's too bad that people are going to lose so much money because of their greed.
legendary
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Unless they start denying refunds...

They kind of have done that already.


Lol no they haven't. Name 3 [three] people who have never received a refund from BFL..

Why 3?

It's a magic number. Remember when ONLY three people requested refunds from BFL? 3's the tipping point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU4pyiB-kq0 Cheesy


1 disgruntled BFL customer is generally easy to find..and I'm sure if they didn't receive their refund within 5 minutes of request they'd go around claiming "SCAM" (just look at all the BitInstant threads out there).
2 customers with refund problems could be just a fluke..or a mix between the disgruntled dumbass and someone with an actual problem.
But 3 people..well that's the start of a pattern Tongue

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Forget refunds, what would a gold miner do if their equipment supplier didn't deliver and they lost production?...

...sue someone for breach of contract and damages!  

Greedy ASIC supplier vs. greedy lawyer.. FIGHT! Wink
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I owe my soul to the Bitcoin code...
Unless they start denying refunds...

They kind of have done that already.


Lol no they haven't. Name 3 [three] people who have never received a refund from BFL..

Why 3?

Because one is the loneliest number that you'll ever do.
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
Unless they start denying refunds...

They kind of have done that already.


Lol no they haven't. Name 3 [three] people who have never received a refund from BFL..

Why 3?

It's a magic number. Remember when ONLY three people requested refunds from BFL? 3's the tipping point.
hero member
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Unless they start denying refunds...

They kind of have done that already.


Lol no they haven't. Name 3 [three] people who have never received a refund from BFL..

Why 3?
legendary
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1001
Unless they start denying refunds...

They kind of have done that already.


Lol no they haven't. Name 3 [three] people who have never received a refund from BFL..
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
There is no reason BFL should get a scammer tag - It isn't their fault that people fell for a product that would clearly never be made.

Seriously what are the bumps in their Eclipse Mining pool if they were never made?

https://eclipsemc.com/graphs/historical_rate.php

I suspect they got made and went stealth mode.  Somebody should screen grab this 7 day chart before it disappears. Wink

Here's what issue I have with this. It was stated that all testing will be done with a test rig. I would have no problem with them testing live provided they announced that they were going to do such because of whatever. None, whatsoever, was the mantra! But this act doesn't sit well be me. Neither would an explanation down the road. A statement within 24 hours, I could live with, but five days and counting?
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There is no reason BFL should get a scammer tag - It isn't their fault that people fell for a product that would clearly never be made.

Seriously what are the bumps in their EclipseMC (BFL's) Mining pool if they were never made?

https://eclipsemc.com/graphs/historical_rate.php

I suspect they got made and went stealth mode.  Somebody should screen grab this 7 day chart before it disappears. Wink
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There is no reason BFL should get a scammer tag - It isn't their fault that people fell for a product that would clearly never be made.
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Since they're having problems testing on the test rig, simply test it live. Any coins earned, they can donate to a charity of Frizz's choice.

Conspiracy Theory: Fly a programmer in to make your software hide your ASIC mining from the pool stats.  Huh

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Unless they start denying refunds, they shouldn't be labeled as scammers.

You understand how a Bitcoin arbitrage scam works right? You take bitcoins for a project then refund $ later when they are worth more. Free loan to build your mining farm plus a skim off the top.
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I voted yes. I'm an agent of chaos.
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Unless they start denying refunds...

They kind of have done that already.
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