At time of writing, 77.3% of a sample size of a thousand think they should get the tag. Where is it?
It's tucked away nicely under the rather large pile of money BFL has thrown at this forum.
I doubt BFL has shipped 23% of their total orderbook (especially since 50% if it seems to have happened from Mar/Apr 2013). This means there are still people who have not received a unit that don't think they are a scam. If public opinion mattered, Casey Anthony would be in Jail, Michael Jackson would have been in jail and probably never died. Since there is a burden of proof here, it really doesn't matter what the public THINKS.
So the fact that BFL is breaking FTC regulations is irrelevant?
BFL is illegally withholding customer money by not honouring order cancellation when the customer asks for it. That alone is worth a scammer tag (if it still existed).
That is a legal question and we do not have a legal answer at this time.
Hogwash, this is a forum not a court of law. Let me ask you this, was bASIC (cablepair) scam tag tested in a court of law (ie was it a legal question with a legal answer), how bout MNW was that also a legal question tested with a legal answer. How about all the other scammer tags that had legal questions that did not have an official legal answer...
Hell by your theory until recently when the SEC formally charged pirate he had a legal question with no legal answer so he should not have had a scammer tag...
You are also comparing a person against a business
bASIC was a company, Pirate also had a company
You can point to monies given to bASIC and nothing received back.
Really? the last thread I saw had all (or maybe 1 or two not) people refunded IN WHOLE. If there were people not refunded by him please point them out.
Just because 800 people believe something to be true doesn't make it so. The 1000 votes you have on this subject is a small fraction of the entirety of BTC miners, yet you are willing to let that small fraction decide the outcome.
Giving BFL a scammer tag on BTC talk does absolutely nothing to decide any type of outcome for BFL (especially if we're are as insignificant as you and BFL state), it would serve as a warning to unsuspecting newbs or eternal optimists to do some due diligence and that at least 800 people (an overwhelming majority) feel they are playing unfairly (to be nice about it).
That's be like the US drawing a single county from a single state and letting them decide the next President.
A little overdramatic perhaps, a scammer tag has no ability to affect BFL in any way other way than the people on this forum, which according to you and BFL is a small insignificant number. BTC talk applying a scammer tag to BFL does not elevate a single person to a position of essentially ultimate authority. It simply serves as a warning to people who come here looking for information. You really overstep the realistic analogy approach on that one mate.
bASIC ran his most if not all of his 'operation' here, thus it is fair for the voices here to decide. BFL advertises here and elsewhere and has their own site. Why should this little corner have the ultimate say?
Not sure what the percentage of business done on this forum has to do with anything. As mentioned a scammer tag on BTC talk is not the ultimate say it is only relevant to people who come to BTC talk, so if only a small percentage of business is done here then only a small percentage of prospective customers will see it. bASIC had their own website, BFL used the fuck out of BTC talk in the early days as well (and still do advertising again in the thousands per week?).
