Topic: [ POLL ] The Unification Fight: FURY vs USYK sponsored by Utopia (Read 7774 times)

I didn't cut anything. You yourself admit that this is boasting, and I directly wrote about it too:


The funniest thing is that either he's not very smart, or his PR manager, so in a stream of bragging (which is probably nothing bad for a media person), he let it slip and told the truth.

Everyone understands this, here is Ruiz’s recent opinion:

“Is Fury ducking Usyk? I think so. Everybody right now wants the easy fights.”
https://boxing-social.com/news/former-champ-fury-ducking-usyk/

There's a significant rationale behind Fury considering a fight against Usyk, especially since Usyk holds multiple belts now. When comparing their attributes side by side, the distinct difference in height and reach becomes quite evident.

Fury stands at 6 feet 9 inches, towering over Usyk's 6 feet 3 inches, and also possesses a 7-inch reach advantage. With these physical disparities, it's possible to envision a strategic approach Fury might adopt. Given Fury's reputation for ring intelligence, it's unlikely he would allow himself to be outboxed by a shorter opponent. His game plan would likely revolve around exploiting his reach advantage and employing his tactical acumen to secure victory.

I can already Imagine Fury would be holding all the belts in the heavyweight division.

I think you cut the better part of the statement,


So not sure if we would to take that statement seriously though, I mean it's obvious that he just wanted some media attention because everything is on Usyk right now as he won over Dubois. And as you have said, it's just pure boast on his side, nothing else.

The cowardly Fury is so stupid that in the stream of his boasting he told the pure truth:

"If he (Usyk) beat me it’s like ‘Oh my god, he beat the mammoth who no one couldn’t be beat!’ I’m not going to give somebody the opportunity to gain that. Hell no."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/tyson-fury-boxing-fight-news-30820007

I wrote about it in this thread, and now stupid Fury has confirmed it, although such an admission is rather shameful. So, exhibition fights, circus performances, fights with bums are ahead of us, but not boxing performed by Fury.

And now there are reports that he is contemplating retirement, yeah, probably the Gypsy king is is another mental issues or something. So let's see what will be his next move. Although not the first time that we will hear from him retiring for good and then making a comeback.

On the contrary, Usyk can move forward and fight Dubois (who is also promoted by Frank Warren). Maybe May or June for this fight?

And for once, we may have to stop mentioning the name of Fury in this heavyweight division.

Probably, but was only in this thread, but few days ago it became clear in and for press that this fight is never going to happen. I would not be saying that this is due to Fury being coward. Even a coward would overpower his fears and step inside the ring to get millions

I think Fury just went crazy. A lot of pressure from everyone towards that fight. Seems that he is no longer so much interested in boxing. Either fed up with it, or got bored, lost motivation. I would not be surprised if he has returned to drinking and alco bothers him to think reasonable

You probably overslept the last weeks and missed a lot of the news that was discussed in this thread 
The fight fell through for one reason only: Fury is a coward who is afraid of getting a one in the defeat column, so even when his financially absurd requirements were met, he continued to come up with reasons to derail the fight.

Huge shame. However, he still has the option of boxing with bums, but if I were him, I would immediately go to the circus. Apparently this is his ceiling.

Yeah, that rematch split though, Usyk gave in to the initial request having to split it to 70/30. But in the rematch definitely it's his turn to demand something in return, but Fury still wanted more even in rematch, hehehe. That's obviously greediness on his part, he wants more money either 1 or 2 fights with Usyk. Now he goes on his media tirade against Usyk, attacking him personally. But for us fans, it was clearly the Fury is the one to blame for this fight not going to happen. Doesn't matter if Usyk will fight Dubois for a mere buck as per Fury. At least Usyk stood his ground, he has the most belts in this negotiation and yet Fury treated him as if he has that 3 belts. There's no point of going on with the negotiations, Fury has a lot of unreasonable demands.

The first time I read about the fight not going to happen I already think that it is the matter of split that made the fight impossible.  It is funny that USYK already accepted the 70/30 getting the lower end of the deal and yet FURY still wants a 70/30 on the rematch split. 

Usyk accused Fury of being greedy while Fury accused Usyk of being a coward.  But whatever it is, I am very disappointed on the greediness of Fury. I hope Fury loses his next fight, let us see if he can still apply that greed to reclaim his title if he lost a fight.

For the collapse of the deal between Usyk and Fury, Usyk is now looking at a possible title defense against the WBA mandatory challenger  Daniel Dubois

I expected something like this to happen. This fight will be organized somehow. Maybe these adjustments can take a long time. I wish we could see a trilogy. It's too early to tell the trilogy, maybe it will be short with the superiority of one side in the fight, and if there is such an ending, there will be no rematch. As far as I understand the disagreement, the British wanted a rematch, is it just because of this?.

That was really bad news and if that is so, they need to give the fight he really wants because this guy gave something in the history of boxing a fight that will never be forgotten. Anyway, that was his own choice and he probably saw something wrong when he gonna fight Usyk and he might lose his chance to retire with a never forgotten fight win of his career.

It's really bad when someone is about to retire and loses their last fight and it should be a win for them if only they know how to pick an opponent that they can easily beat.

Yeah, in the beginning it was just the issue of the venue, but maybe when their Middle East contacts didn't agree with what they are asking, then Fury switch stands wanted more money and that starts the finger pointing about the contract, the purse split and other issues.

And even if they are being pushed by the boxing body, there's no clear path for this fight, all they have is a date that's it.

As the fight date gets closer and still there are no negotiations except in media, then all signs point that this fight is really on jeopardy.

Sadly, this fight is not going to happen. Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk undisputed title fight is now off

I knew that something like that was going to happen, because there were to many issues already to organize that fight. Like always, it seems that it is all about money. I felt that Fury was planning to make this fight as a his last fight, so he wanted to get the biggest purse as possible. Also it looks like Fury isnt interested in boxing anymore. He has achieved a lot already. His last fight with Chisora is an indicator of my guess.

The 4 major sanctioning bodies (WBA, WBC, IBF, and WBO) cannot include in their rankings the already world champions from the other major organizations. Maybe it can be agreed but it's been years now that these 4 sanctioning bodies tried to negotiate in creating an undisputed champion per division to no avail. An attempt to do that without a pre-approval from the other major sanctioning bodies can only spark a war just like the WBC vs WBO before and it will only stop future unification bouts.

Fury is not only trying to bluff Usyk with heavy demands but it is also trying to disrupt Usyk's training. Usyk is already training for weeks already and there were rumors that Fury is yet to set up his own training camp. Although Fury at times tried to post that he is training but most likely not the usual training when someone has a scheduled fight. And Fury probably needs more time here as I doubt he will come at the same weight when he fought Wilder, Whyte, or Chisora. Fury is a smart guy and he won't come that heavy against a speedster like Usyk. Fury will probably fight when he feels right and ready. He might cut off Usyk's camp as the Ukrainian cannot overtrain and needs to relax his body. And it looks like Fury will make Usyk inactive for a year. 

It's either that or Fury doesn't want to fight Usyk at this point because he is afraid of losing the fight. And then what? they are talking about an April date when the fight is not moving at all?

So as I fan, I'm not confident that the fight is going to move as schedule, it might take a while but obviously, we all know who are delaying the fight at this point. Usyk and his camp are very vocal as to what is going on behind, even the 70-30%, but still Fury seems to be stalling the fight.

Why do they not make a mandatory defense for Fury against Usyk? Fury cannot reject it and if he does the belts go to Usyk. I think that is the only way we will get this fight to happen because Fury does not want to sign the contract. Usyk is willing to fight for nothing and has pride. Fury is a joke and is not deserving of the belts if he does not want to fight the real challengers instead fight people past their prime.

I think he's probably stalling. He really didn't think that Usyk would accept his low-ball offer but Usyk called his bluff. Tyson has been out of camp so is now rushing to try get fit but wont sign that contract until he knows he's well on the way to getting in shape. Don't be suspired if Tyson comes out with some injury BS or some other reason why the fight can't happen next month when in reality it will just be because Tyson isn't 100% fit and he won't be because he's been messing about in Dubai earlier this month and only started his first day of camp on the weekend.

Fury's fame is prolly getting over his head with all this ridiculous deals he ask of Usyk and the team. This is just unsportsmanlike and have it held the fight for too long would just make him look like he was stalling the fight or something. In any case I still believe he's going to win, prolly why he's pushing to get the bigger chunk from the cut instead of halving it nicely coz he knows he's gonna win and if he does it's just going to make things look great for him, and for his PR.

Well I would agree. I'm kinda hoping Usyk wins this now or at least puts Fury down a peg or two. There's really no excuse for this sort of greed and ironically it's his ego that has cost him more money because there's no way a fight in the UK is going to generate as much money as the Saudi's were offering and now Usyk has to take a massive paycut because of Fury's ego. If Fury does come out with some BS injury to try push the fight back it will be blatantly obvious what he's doing. The fight still hasn't even been signed so don't be surprised if he comes out with some rubbish that they couldn't get the deal done in time. Fury has only just started camp and he's without Sugar Hill for this so I'd be very surprised if he's fully fit in time for next month, though I guess at least he will have an excuse if he loses.


To be honest 99% of the comments on youtube videos etc seem to be calling Fury out on this which is refreshing to see. Even Tyson addressed the 'haters' in his recent instagram stories. They're not haters Tyson, just fans who have had enough of all the BS and ego.


Usyk can state in the contract that he agrees to the rematch but only if it's 70/30 to him. In fact, that's what he should do. At least don't accept anything less than 50/50 which is often what rematch contracts stipulate.

Boxing is full of casuals who can't even name some of its world champions. So it is not surprising to see a lot of them continue to praise and defend Tyson Fury and his antics.

And with regards to the possibility of Fury submitting another contract with a rematch clause should he lose the fight, the conditions of the split in the rematch will be written there too. So it's not like Usyk can also demand an 80% split if he gives Fury a rematch. So Fury can say 70% in this fight and maybe 65% in the rematch, Usyk can take it or not fight at all. I missed how boxing in the past where the best fights the best without any complications and heavy demands on each sides.