Topic: [ POLL ] The Unification Fight: FURY vs USYK sponsored by Utopia - page 4. (Read 7762 times)

Honestly, if this deal falls through, and Fury ends up fighting another Chisora I think he'd lose me as a fan, which is mad to say because I honestly think he's the best of this generation. I just can't be arsed for his antics. Sometimes they can be funny, and entertaining like the batman suit. However, the squabbling over contracts constantly, and not giving the fans what they want is annoying. Especially, when he's probably got two big fights left realistically. Just get it done, beat Usyk, then beat Joshua, and he could become the undisputed greatest of his generation. At the moment, there's question marks over it, even though I think he wipes the floor with both of these men personally.

At this stage of his career, I thought he'd be more interested in cementing that image in people's head, rather than money. The Fury family have plenty of money, and I always thought once you get to a certain amount of money which the Fury family certainly have hit, there's no real point going for excessive amounts, just live your life at that point.

I don't think Wilder has more power than Ngannou. Francis is probably one of the hardest hitters on the planet: https://www.givemesport.com/88105296-francis-ngannou-broke-world-record-for-hardest-punch-ever-in-2018/

Wilder has better technique and boxing IQ for sure but Francis pretty much uses his stature and build to just wildly swing punches from a different universe which if they land you're probably not going to remain upright. Ngannou wouldn't outbox either Wilder or Fury but he could certainly knock them both out if he just comes out swinging and bullies them with his sheer weight and size. If he tries to outbox them he's not going to but I also can't see him being easy to KO either. Maybe he can be tired out but I think it's going to be difficult to dodge everything Francis throws for a full 12 rounder and that's what makes the fight exciting for me. If it happens I hope Francis just comes out swinging charging at Fury and tries to go for an early KO. I think that would probably be his best bet at winning. If that doesn't work he can just lay off the gas and have a slower paced boxing match and hope a weakness in Fury's defence opens up and he can capitalise on it like Wilder did.


I don't think it's been confirmed yet. That's certainly the date they seem to be going for but if Fury doesn't put pen to paper because of greed then it'll just fall through or they'll have to do it in the UK, but then that just stalls the fight even more unless Usyk is quick to agree to a lesser deal which he might be reluctant to do.

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No it is for sure Fury delaying the fight. Usyk has no reason to delay the fight he has said many times that he does not care about money and only cares about legacy he wants to have all the belts that Fury has. Fury has said he does not care about money but he is always stalling fights and I think this time he has been exposed for it because every time he is in negotiations with bigger fighters they always claim it is Fury that is delaying the fights. Wilder said that Fury was delaying the fight between them the 1st time and I think fury had the bigger reward for fighting. He does care about money he cares more about money then making the fights happen.

What do they have to iron out? Usyk has publicly said he will give Fury the most money for the fight and he just wants to fight Fury at all costs. Fury is delaying the fight for more money which is wrong because he is already getting the most in the deal.

It's too big for Fury not to accept this fight either in UK or Middle East so for me I think it's more than they have iron it out and everything, against could boil down to the venue as both have it's advantages and disadvantages.

And I do agree that money talks, so if Saudi brings more money to the table, then Arum will deliver Fury then to the Saudis and so is Usyk.

It is enough to look into history to see that there are a million possible reasons for any even already organized fight not to take place. Some boxers can get injured or "injured" (if they want to avoid a fight), some boxers can get depressed or get caught on drugs/doping (I'm not hinting to Fury, I'm just directly saying, hehe). I hope that this fight will take place on April 29th but still I have big doubts about it.

Fury will be fighting Usyk on 29th April 2023, I cannot see any reason it will not go ahead because after all the hype about possible UFC bouts, it all comes down to one thing and it is the most important of all when it comes to boxing and that is money talks. If there is money on the table any fight can take place. Fury vs Usyk will definitely take place.

Does anyone still doubt that it is Fury who is delaying the fight? 
Very strange behavior for a person who considers Usyk weak, who does not need money, etc. Of course, I understand that Fury has always been the way he is now, but still he is moving towards the circus and exhibition fights. It is a pity that Usyk is a cultured person and rather weakly mocks Fury.

Well, it seem 29th April 2023 has been confirmed for the Fury vs Usyk fight but if Fury is doing what only Fury does best on social media it should not detract from the fact he wants to fight Usyk. I think the fight will go ahead because they have already invested a lot in to making it happen. There will be too many factions involved wanting a slice of the cash therefore they will ensure the fight goes ahead.









Absolutely, Usyk can beat Fury but in my opinion there is far more chance of Fury defeating Usyk than there is of Usyk defeating Fury. It will be fantastic fight to watch because the last time any heavyweight boxer held all the belts and was unified champion was in 1999 when Lennox Lewis did it.

At that time in 1999 there were only 3 belts but now there are 4 and (apart from the fight ending as a draw) one of these two technically gifted and powerful boxers will making history around 24 years after Lennox Lewis last did it.

Ngannou would be a good fight but he probably wins easily. I think Wilder has more power then Ngannou and Fury has taken his best shots. Ngannou is slower and less agile then Wilder. Fury would be able to keep the distance and has the speed advantage. I think it could be a one sided fight which would be boring and would end the boxing career for Ngannou when he is exposed. I like Ngannou and hope he does not take this fight so early he should try and gain as much money as he can in boxing before he faces the final boss Fury.

Fury is annoying I never liked him but I respect his boxing ability he is one of the best heavyweight boxers of all time but he is annoying because he cares about money more then he does about legacy and he never makes the fights that should happen. I think they should hit him with a mandatory fight against usyk and the boxing promoters should have the power to do that. instead Fury will go fight a bum or Ngannou and collect his pay check stalling the heavyweight division again.

Many gambling fans and bettors say so, some even dare to take absolute knockout points, gambling bettors doubt Usyk to be able to beat Fury, but this time I ignore what people say about Usyk's doubts, optimism, confidence, the fist stand between Usyk vs. Fury, that Usyk could write new history in his future boxing career, no matter the difference of opinion, no, this time I have to follow my own instincts.

What do you think @JollyGood, am I wrong to judge Usyk can beat Fury.

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To be honest, I don't look at the physical differences between the two, whether it's height or weight, if you look there, yes, I don't argue that Fury is superior to both, I will judge Usyk from his skill and mentality, to be honest, I salute Usyk, the mentality he has is not afraid to fight Fury in the boxing ring this time. that's the basis I'm willing to bet on him.

Not the first time Fury is stirring waters. First time situation with Joshua. Still not clear with who is responsible for their fight not happening. Fury, Joshua or managers. I see that Usyk posts on his Instagram funny videos taunting Fury.

I think that Fury does not want to fight anymore. He wants to stay in media space, be noticed. Since fight against Wilder, he did not have real opponents, or did not have to try hard preparing for the fight or fighting.

hilariousetc said that Fury is trying to milk as much as possible from his next fight. Anyone knows how much he has earned in last fights? Probably enough to provide his family enough with funds for next generations.

This fight has been dead in the water for weeks and it's all Fury's fault. Apparently everything is signed, they've both agreed terms, and Usyk has even agreed to his fee from Dubai but Tyson hasn't so he's basically trying to milk as much as possible out of this. Quite ridiculous for someone who apparently doesn't care about the money. Tyson has been more active on social media posting about the potential Ngannou fight... which I actually hope happens at some point but I hope he doesn't lead Francis on with this fight promising him the world only to have it 100% on his terms and give Francis a nominal amount. Hopefully Francis actually already has something concrete down to fight Fury because leaving the UFC was a huge risk otherwise and I'm not sure he would have done if he didn't think this mega fight was likely to happen which it wouldn't have whilst Francis was with the UFC.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/21305038/francis-ngannou-tyson-fury-fight-agree/

Would it be reasonable to say Fury would be no more and no less going to struggle as almost any other boxer? You are right, with the exception of just a few undefeated boxers, they mostly do fight a little too long and that becomes their biggest problem (they do not know when to retire).

If Fury is associated with boxing he will have to one day let go of it and find other things to do. If he stays in boxing after hanging up his gloves he will probably be a perfect fit whether he goes in to training, promoting or commentating. I am fairly sure Usyk will not win the fight against Fury but am unsure what will happen to his state of mind if he suffers his first professional loss. Both undefeated boxers in a real battle to be crowned undisputed unified heavyweight champion.

All boxing fans are looking forward to it.

Wow, why did you take a break from writing fantasy stories and start commenting on boxing?  Please read about the medical nature of knockout, just for self-education.

As for the picture of the battle that you drew, if you remove the fantastic part, it turns out that Usyk will win on points  In fact, we will see something like a repetition of the battle with AJ. Although myself I see a different scenario.

People dont fell down from accented punch, they get knocked out by the punch they dont see. Accented punch can daze an opponent, that maximum. Nevertheless, those airbegs will be what Usyk will break his wrists against off.

I dont see Usyk winning this fight, no matter how hard he will try. People see only fat side of Fury, they think he is slow and clumsy. But he will be as fast as Usyk, heavier and more powerful than Usyk. Usyk will fight in his typical manner - lots of punches and movement/counter every punch with 3-4 of his own. Usyk can circle around Fury, but his punches wont be much effective. Fury can even allow to open himself for a punch, withstand it and counter his own punch, that Usyk wont withstand.

That is how I see their confrontation.

^^ I believed that it will be Saudi all along, maybe Arum just wanted to insert Wembley in the picture. But with the huge money that his Saudi friends are willing to put in line to get this fight in the Middle East, it might be too good to refuse by both camp specially Fury who might be asking for the bigger purse.

But we don't have any issues with regards to the venue, as long as we looking for a unification fight in Heavyweight now, then maybe majority will agree with me.

That's an old video though. Saw that already a few years ago. Fury seems below 270 pounds in that video. And yes, Fury was fat in some of his fights. Boxing casuals may not see it but Fury had been adjusting his weights depending on his opponents unless they were cherry-picked or low risked opponents like Chisora and Whyte where weight is not an issue.

Another update into this historic fight. There is a targeted date already and obviously, this not happening in March. Hopefully, Arum stops pushing this fight in the UK where Usyk has been robbed of on some of his previous and obvious winning rounds. Cinco de Mayo weekend seems impossible now since the biggest name in boxing, Canelo Alvarez always gets the date he wants.

Strange analysis. I think if McKenna had punched Fury in the jaw, he would have knocked him out. The problem of a knockout is not the strength of the head, but an accented punch. If the boxer managed to do it, then the opponent falls. Usyk may well first outbox Fury and then “finish off” with a knockout punch when Fury is no longer able to defend himself. This is often the case in pairs of a smart boxer against a puncher: if a smart boxer survives in the early rounds, then in the end he will knock out and not him. Plus, this applies mainly to smaller weight categories - here, even in the first round, one lucky punch from any boxer can end the fight.

Reply to those who claim that Fury is fat: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CnkS4tkjDvM/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=. This isnt fat, these are airbags. The kid that punches Fury is Stephen McKenna, professional boxer, welterweight. His punches are nothing compared to Usyk, but Fury is able to hold heavy punches. For example Fury has survived Bronze bomber head punch.

I give little chances for Usyk. He is experienced, but never faced such a heavy fighter before. Looks like Usyk did not have enough power to knockout Fury, when Fury can land a punch, daze Usyk and finish with a knockout. It does not look like Usyk is going to survive whole 12 round, to be able to win by points.