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Quote from: Hirose UK on February 17, 2024, 10:57:59 PM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on February 15, 2024, 11:32:10 AM

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I think there's more potential to use chatGPT as a way to help analysing than as something like a set and forget totally passive strategy.

I think so too because AI or ChatGPT is just human-made intelligence which as whole is tool and technology that stores million pieces of information needed by each user and is able to provide detailed data.
However, I doubt that the detailed information provided by AI or ChatGPT can really help as whole, there will always be some things that are left behind or cannot be provided by this artificial technology.
It just that I think that use can be more possible in analyzing, not just creating strategies, strategies are created with skill and intelligence so it is clear that the human brain will be far superior in terms of creating strategies.
Development of AI or ChatGPT may experience significant improvements, but this cannot guarantee that AI or ChatGPT can work like a god and can really help and solve everything that humans do.
This is just an artificial tool and in fact artificial tools are only intended to help, not replace.

yes
of course everything can change with future versions of GPT and specally if we end up really reaching AGI
then some things we have no idea will happen

have you seen Sora? new model by openAI for video, I was already really impressed by it last week.

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Quote from: CODE200 on February 09, 2024, 11:01:03 PM

Quote from: STT on February 08, 2024, 06:59:35 PM

More then a year after OP the AI theme is still alive and strong, even possibly growing stronger by the day. I still dont know if this is absolutely possible but the chances or probability of attempts to win by betting via AI and/or with assistance are surely greater every day. AI seems to be not just pure hype or driven by hope but an actual development ongoing maybe humble at start but in estimation progressively a powerful tool in multiple sectors; I want to come back in a year and see even more progress lets hope so. Then only then do we have to really worry about the rules, its too good so now we have to limit it? We should be so lucky Grin

That's because AI is getting better because a lot of people are working on it to continuously improve and it's absolutely possible but I believe that it's going to take a really long time before AI is something that's totally accurate when it comes to predictions because right now. I do believe it will eventually go to a point where it can accurately give you what you need to know and be as good as the chess AIs of the modern day but it's a long time probably and I will think that a lot of people that's going to be affected by AI is going to be trying their best to impede it's progress.

Getting better and better but come to think that informations been injected or been stored would really be the only thing that it would be able to do nothingless. Humans are still superior considering that its the creator of things when it comes to this manner. It is really just that there are really benefits when making use of AI when it comes to information accumulation or research but its not something that would really be ideal for you to make out such consideration when making up some bets or basing up with its results. Of course you could really be able to make out some comparison with those information but nothing beats that you are the ones who would really be able to make out such decisions basing up into the information that you have been able to compared and accumulate.
Im not saying its not worth but its better to base on your own.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on February 15, 2024, 11:32:10 AM

~snip~

I think there's more potential to use chatGPT as a way to help analysing than as something like a set and forget totally passive strategy.

I think so too because AI or ChatGPT is just human-made intelligence which as whole is tool and technology that stores million pieces of information needed by each user and is able to provide detailed data.
However, I doubt that the detailed information provided by AI or ChatGPT can really help as whole, there will always be some things that are left behind or cannot be provided by this artificial technology.
It just that I think that use can be more possible in analyzing, not just creating strategies, strategies are created with skill and intelligence so it is clear that the human brain will be far superior in terms of creating strategies.
Development of AI or ChatGPT may experience significant improvements, but this cannot guarantee that AI or ChatGPT can work like a god and can really help and solve everything that humans do.
This is just an artificial tool and in fact artificial tools are only intended to help, not replace.

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Quote from: KosmoKisa on February 10, 2024, 05:43:08 AM

While the popularity of ChatGPT is undeniable, I would not rely on artificial intelligence for betting predictions. Sporting events are complex and subject to unpredictable factors such as injuries, player fitness and even luck. Artificial intelligence algorithms are trained on huge amounts of data, which can inadvertently bias their predictions. The dynamic nature of sport means that unforeseen events can have a significant impact on outcomes that artificial intelligence models find difficult to predict. Such circumstances can significantly alter the course of a game. Sports excitement thrives on passion, analysis, and intuition that artificial intelligence models cannot replicate. Making informed predictive decisions requires a comprehensive understanding of the sport, the players, and the current conditions

this reminds me of an interview I saw a short video once
the interviewer ask
"do you think AI will take your job at some point?"
and the guy, I don't know what he was doing for work, maybe he was an actor, but he says
"I don't think so because AI is logical... and I'm not really logical sometimes Wink

"

I think there's more potential to use chatGPT as a way to help analysing than as something like a set and forget totally passive strategy.

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Quote from: Blitzboy on February 11, 2024, 10:29:37 AM

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AI's ability to match chess AIs in all domains? Not convinced. Because human brilliance is unmatched, AI is pursuing a moving target. Our agility and deception are unmatched by algorithms.

Yes, AI's social impact and opposition are understood. A force that threatens the status quo is natural to resist. However, every instrument and advancement was once fresh and scrutinised. The key is balance. Instead than replacing humans, we use AI to improve them. Let's use this tool to boost our abilities, not devalue ourselves.

Speaking of forecasts. It will take time for AI to match human intuition and insight. It can analyse data, find trends, and make intelligent assumptions. But life's subtlety, human passion, and world unpredictability? In our purview. AI enhances human experience -- it doesn't weave it.

Yeah, I agree.

The thing is that the AI still needs a human to set their goals.

Even if the AI is great, it would probably never make a discovery by chance, like penicillin for example.

An AI would never stop and change their goal unexpectedly, they are focused to get the initial goal set by the human.

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Quote from: CODE200 on February 09, 2024, 11:01:03 PM

Quote from: STT on February 08, 2024, 06:59:35 PM

More then a year after OP the AI theme is still alive and strong, even possibly growing stronger by the day. I still dont know if this is absolutely possible but the chances or probability of attempts to win by betting via AI and/or with assistance are surely greater every day. AI seems to be not just pure hype or driven by hope but an actual development ongoing maybe humble at start but in estimation progressively a powerful tool in multiple sectors; I want to come back in a year and see even more progress lets hope so. Then only then do we have to really worry about the rules, its too good so now we have to limit it? We should be so lucky Grin

That's because AI is getting better because a lot of people are working on it to continuously improve and it's absolutely possible but I believe that it's going to take a really long time before AI is something that's totally accurate when it comes to predictions because right now. I do believe it will eventually go to a point where it can accurately give you what you need to know and be as good as the chess AIs of the modern day but it's a long time probably and I will think that a lot of people that's going to be affected by AI is going to be trying their best to impede it's progress.

AI's ability to match chess AIs in all domains? Not convinced. Because human brilliance is unmatched, AI is pursuing a moving target. Our agility and deception are unmatched by algorithms.

Yes, AI's social impact and opposition are understood. A force that threatens the status quo is natural to resist. However, every instrument and advancement was once fresh and scrutinised. The key is balance. Instead than replacing humans, we use AI to improve them. Let's use this tool to boost our abilities, not devalue ourselves.

Speaking of forecasts. It will take time for AI to match human intuition and insight. It can analyse data, find trends, and make intelligent assumptions. But life's subtlety, human passion, and world unpredictability? In our purview. AI enhances human experience -- it doesn't weave it.

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Quote from: KosmoKisa on February 10, 2024, 05:43:08 AM

While the popularity of ChatGPT is undeniable, I would not rely on artificial intelligence for betting predictions. Sporting events are complex and subject to unpredictable factors such as injuries, player fitness and even luck. Artificial intelligence algorithms are trained on huge amounts of data, which can inadvertently bias their predictions. The dynamic nature of sport means that unforeseen events can have a significant impact on outcomes that artificial intelligence models find difficult to predict. Such circumstances can significantly alter the course of a game. Sports excitement thrives on passion, analysis, and intuition that artificial intelligence models cannot replicate. Making informed predictive decisions requires a comprehensive understanding of the sport, the players, and the current conditions

Sure, it's a random event after all.

But, the casinos have to generate a set of odds, combining a lot of information.

Sometimes, there might be some information out there that is not picked up by the casinos, and that's when an AI system might be an advantage.

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While the popularity of ChatGPT is undeniable, I would not rely on artificial intelligence for betting predictions. Sporting events are complex and subject to unpredictable factors such as injuries, player fitness and even luck. Artificial intelligence algorithms are trained on huge amounts of data, which can inadvertently bias their predictions. The dynamic nature of sport means that unforeseen events can have a significant impact on outcomes that artificial intelligence models find difficult to predict. Such circumstances can significantly alter the course of a game. Sports excitement thrives on passion, analysis, and intuition that artificial intelligence models cannot replicate. Making informed predictive decisions requires a comprehensive understanding of the sport, the players, and the current conditions

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Quote from: nullama on February 09, 2024, 09:26:33 PM

Yeah, it looks like you have things under control, and that's great.

As long as you keep it that way you'll have a great time.

Because at the end of the day you are paying for that entertainment, and it's a expense under control, so it's all good.

The issue starts when you overspend on this.

Well, I'm not that good at controlling myself. I still need to learn a lot to be able to control myself well because I feel like I often lose self-control when gambling. That's because I can still be tempted by the offers I see at the casino and will try to participate in getting them.

But I try to have fun playing gambling and always try to limit the money even though I realize it is something difficult. But I'm sure that by learning to control myself, I will be able to protect my money so that I don't lose too much gambling. Yes, problems will arise when we start spending too much money. That is why we must always limit ourselves properly when gambling.

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Quote from: STT on February 08, 2024, 06:59:35 PM

More then a year after OP the AI theme is still alive and strong, even possibly growing stronger by the day. I still dont know if this is absolutely possible but the chances or probability of attempts to win by betting via AI and/or with assistance are surely greater every day. AI seems to be not just pure hype or driven by hope but an actual development ongoing maybe humble at start but in estimation progressively a powerful tool in multiple sectors; I want to come back in a year and see even more progress lets hope so. Then only then do we have to really worry about the rules, its too good so now we have to limit it? We should be so lucky Grin

That's because AI is getting better because a lot of people are working on it to continuously improve and it's absolutely possible but I believe that it's going to take a really long time before AI is something that's totally accurate when it comes to predictions because right now. I do believe it will eventually go to a point where it can accurately give you what you need to know and be as good as the chess AIs of the modern day but it's a long time probably and I will think that a lot of people that's going to be affected by AI is going to be trying their best to impede it's progress.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on February 09, 2024, 01:52:23 AM

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Until now, I still enjoy my time playing gambling, and coincidentally, I also have a list of several casinos that I use for gambling. Playing online gambling really provides a different experience from playing offline gambling and I really enjoy it. Winning and losing are things that we have to encounter when playing gambling. The important thing is that we can anticipate many losses.

I often see offers from casinos. But I also don't force myself always to take the offer because I think about the budget for gambling, which is not too big, and I don't want to see if my gambling activities can make me violate my limits.

Yeah, it looks like you have things under control, and that's great.

As long as you keep it that way you'll have a great time.

Because at the end of the day you are paying for that entertainment, and it's a expense under control, so it's all good.

The issue starts when you overspend on this.

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Quote from: nullama on February 08, 2024, 05:58:30 AM

I actually quite enjoy spending some time at some of the nicer casinos.

They have everything very nicely decorated, great food, drinks, etc.

If you actually don't gamble, you can get a pretty good deal at the rest of the stuff usually.

Until now, I still enjoy my time playing gambling, and coincidentally, I also have a list of several casinos that I use for gambling. Playing online gambling really provides a different experience from playing offline gambling and I really enjoy it. Winning and losing are things that we have to encounter when playing gambling. The important thing is that we can anticipate many losses.

I often see offers from casinos. But I also don't force myself always to take the offer because I think about the budget for gambling, which is not too big, and I don't want to see if my gambling activities can make me violate my limits.

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More then a year after OP the AI theme is still alive and strong, even possibly growing stronger by the day. I still dont know if this is absolutely possible but the chances or probability of attempts to win by betting via AI and/or with assistance are surely greater every day. AI seems to be not just pure hype or driven by hope but an actual development ongoing maybe humble at start but in estimation progressively a powerful tool in multiple sectors; I want to come back in a year and see even more progress lets hope so. Then only then do we have to really worry about the rules, its too good so now we have to limit it? We should be so lucky Grin

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Quote from: nullama on February 08, 2024, 05:58:30 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on February 05, 2024, 11:44:32 PM

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We realize and admit that the casino design has succeeded in making us not realize how long we have spent gambling and it has also succeeded in making many gamblers continue gambling without thinking about their limits anymore. This is what makes many casinos forget their self-control and limits because they get a lot of pleasure from gambling. Yes, we are really made to forget when we are in the casino and continue gambling by choosing gambling games that we think we can win. That will only increase the number of our losses.

I actually quite enjoy spending some time at some of the nicer casinos.

They have everything very nicely decorated, great food, drinks, etc.

If you actually don't gamble, you can get a pretty good deal at the rest of the stuff usually.

interesting
but have you ever gone to a casino and didn't bet at all? just had a drink, talked, chill out...

I suppose the one that go to casinos just to play poker are somehow different because a succesful poker player needs good bankroll management skills.

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Quote from: nullama on February 05, 2024, 03:22:38 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on February 04, 2024, 03:18:30 AM

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Yes, you are right. Indeed, the atmosphere in a real world casino can tempt people to keep returning to the casino. It provides a different experience every time they visit the casino because they will find different things. And it's true, having a different experience every time we visit a real-world casino can make us forget to control ourselves, and this is what often makes people end up addicted to gambling without even realizing it. That's why when we are in a real world casino, we must continue to maintain awareness and not gamble for too long without taking a break because we can fall into other gambling games and end up losing a lot of money.

That's the thing. Those casinos are designed so that you don't realize you're spending too much time there.

You won't find any clocks, or even any windows while inside a casino. It's by design so that you don't get any ideas of leaving the place.

They want you to stay as much as they can.

A very typical thing that you wont really be able to find or seen on a gambling place on which there's no way that you could really be able to know on what time is it because of having no clocks and windows or simply
they would really be trying out to be blocked for you to miss out on quitting or stopping specially if you do know on whats the time. This is why its one of their common tactics to let people do stay and would be busting up all of their funds and ending up miserable. Of course this is really just that an advantage for them since they do know that they did profit with someones loss. Going back into the topic in speaking about AI to predict outcomes,
come to think that if these things are actually that working then majority of gamblers would be using it and no bookies would really be lasting to exist.

This is why its really that a wrong mindset on which you do really believe those things that do happen.It cant really be just that possible for it to be working. AI's do rely with those
informations that been stored into its library.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on February 05, 2024, 11:44:32 PM

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We realize and admit that the casino design has succeeded in making us not realize how long we have spent gambling and it has also succeeded in making many gamblers continue gambling without thinking about their limits anymore. This is what makes many casinos forget their self-control and limits because they get a lot of pleasure from gambling. Yes, we are really made to forget when we are in the casino and continue gambling by choosing gambling games that we think we can win. That will only increase the number of our losses.

I actually quite enjoy spending some time at some of the nicer casinos.

They have everything very nicely decorated, great food, drinks, etc.

If you actually don't gamble, you can get a pretty good deal at the rest of the stuff usually.

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Quote from: arjunmujay on February 02, 2024, 07:51:23 PM

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Quote from: arjunmujay on January 26, 2024, 07:31:39 PM

The development of the world of artificial intelligence (AI) is truly extraordinary. and many novice gamblers use these machines to predict gambling games. Some even asked him to predict altcoins as a trading tool.
In fact, it is good to use AI for this purpose, but it is also not the right and final choice. You also have to pay attention to your own analysis when making bets. Moreover, gambling games are also limited by the time for betting on the game. Is there still time to use AI as a decision-making tool?

There will always be ways to use AI to get some benefits, or to do things faster.

So, I think you can still use AI to make some interesting bets, or at least to make some money doing other things.

you can but it'll probably still take a while until we can leave an AI actively managing bets for us with real money on auto-pilot
I think it'll be possible with some small passive management in the future but probably not yet

but i don't know things are developing so fast that maybe this is already possible.

if that happens, I think there will no longer be any online gamblers who continue to monitor the gambling table. maybe they will just deposit some money into the AI site.

Winning or losing is up to the AI and our settings on the robot. Yes, it is similar to a broker when it comes to trading. The difference is that brokers are still humans, but AI is robots.

Hopefully this will happen in the future so that apart from being more efficient because you can still do other work, it can also minimize gambling addiction which is a big problem for gamblers.

you're assuming we'll have an AI as a service tool but maybe the algorithms for it will be closed source and won't be available for the general public, some algos get better if more people use it but others will lose their edge so this is probably the main factor determining if the creator will share, sell or keep it closed source

makes any sense?

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 08, 2022, 11:11:37 PM

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are? Any other thoughts?

I will never gamble by believing the predictions given by Chat GTP. Because chat about people's experience and ability will fail to advance results by GPT. Especially if I experience football or cricket and the jackpot is only possible to win by karma. People who rely on artificial intelligence, always face gambling losses in most cases. So I gamble or bet using my own experience and I can win.

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Quote from: nullama on February 05, 2024, 03:22:38 AM

That's the thing. Those casinos are designed so that you don't realize you're spending too much time there.

You won't find any clocks, or even any windows while inside a casino. It's by design so that you don't get any ideas of leaving the place.

They want you to stay as much as they can.

We realize and admit that the casino design has succeeded in making us not realize how long we have spent gambling and it has also succeeded in making many gamblers continue gambling without thinking about their limits anymore. This is what makes many casinos forget their self-control and limits because they get a lot of pleasure from gambling. Yes, we are really made to forget when we are in the casino and continue gambling by choosing gambling games that we think we can win. That will only increase the number of our losses.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on February 04, 2024, 03:18:30 AM

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Yes, you are right. Indeed, the atmosphere in a real world casino can tempt people to keep returning to the casino. It provides a different experience every time they visit the casino because they will find different things. And it's true, having a different experience every time we visit a real-world casino can make us forget to control ourselves, and this is what often makes people end up addicted to gambling without even realizing it. That's why when we are in a real world casino, we must continue to maintain awareness and not gamble for too long without taking a break because we can fall into other gambling games and end up losing a lot of money.

That's the thing. Those casinos are designed so that you don't realize you're spending too much time there.

You won't find any clocks, or even any windows while inside a casino. It's by design so that you don't get any ideas of leaving the place.

They want you to stay as much as they can.

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