Topic: [PRE-SALE][ICO] Petro $PTR - Oil backed crypto currency launched by Venezuela - page 29. (Read 28472 times)
May 22, 2018, 09:12:25 AM
Keep the subject on Elpetro, what's coming ,what's happening will, our investment flourish or not, Maduro and his government won but are being isolated and blackballed, time to manipulate the Petro and put a high price on it for some profits!!!!
May 22, 2018, 09:02:28 AM
The abstention and boycott of US funded mafia opposition didn't work much: they could have won, maybe, if they presented a single candidate. But they are wealthy, white coup plotters and massively corrupted, so they prefer to avoid participating in democracy (with all the excuses we know well). Most of them are paid by the US to boycott democracy, and their own country. So fuck them! Good luck Venezuela!
Maduro was reelected President with 68% of the popular vote = 5.8 million votes (not 100% of the votes counted yet). NOW FIESTA! Y viva el Petro!
Eso es seguro! Todos con Maduro!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKFi-Hvg3Rc
https://i.imgur.com/8sFuHle.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kkuQiuJ.jpg
Maduro was reelected President with 68% of the popular vote = 5.8 million votes (not 100% of the votes counted yet). NOW FIESTA! Y viva el Petro!
Eso es seguro! Todos con Maduro!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKFi-Hvg3Rc
https://i.imgur.com/8sFuHle.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kkuQiuJ.jpg
Personally, for me these 68% are just numbers. Almost 70% of citizens abstained from voting. So their opinion just kinda didn't count. I know that this thread is not so much about politics but when the opinion of more than half population on such important matter as power is not presented, this just doesn't work. Nunca. Never
May 22, 2018, 08:46:28 AM
The ONLY reasons why Venezuelan oil production went down are US boycott and sanctions + oil price collapse since 2014. There are other minor factors (that alone do not justify the numbers though), like the corruption of several people at PDVSA, but that's also being addressed with several investigations and arrests.
Oil production is a business that depends on access to credit: if you cannot get loans from banks it's almost impossible to support the high flow of investments needed to keep production up. Venezuela (which is not in default) has been cut off US banking system and that means:
- No access to loans, like anybody else.
- No access to transactions in USD, like anybody else.
The Venezuelan government has been working around this in the last years in various ways, which include diversification of the economy and new trade partners. Oil production will go up again, but it will take time. The rise in oil prices in the last months will certainly help.
Oil production is a business that depends on access to credit: if you cannot get loans from banks it's almost impossible to support the high flow of investments needed to keep production up. Venezuela (which is not in default) has been cut off US banking system and that means:
- No access to loans, like anybody else.
- No access to transactions in USD, like anybody else.
The Venezuelan government has been working around this in the last years in various ways, which include diversification of the economy and new trade partners. Oil production will go up again, but it will take time. The rise in oil prices in the last months will certainly help.
Considering the fact that Trump has promised tougher sanctions recently, the future you’re talking about might be really distant. That’s what analysts say( not only American though ).
May 22, 2018, 08:35:33 AM
We can clearly see that Maduro’s administration is working on ways to avoid sanctions and improve oil sector, so yeah, I believe we'll see the results sooner or later (better be sooner). Btw El Petro was created for this purpose, am I right?
May 22, 2018, 05:06:32 AM
The ONLY reasons why Venezuelan oil production went down are US boycott and sanctions + oil price collapse since 2014. There are other minor factors (that alone do not justify the numbers though), like the corruption of several people at PDVSA, but that's also being addressed with several investigations and arrests.
Oil production is a business that depends on access to credit: if you cannot get loans from banks it's almost impossible to support the high flow of investments needed to keep production up. Venezuela (which is not in default) has been cut off US banking system and that means:
- No access to loans, like anybody else.
- No access to transactions in USD, like anybody else.
The Venezuelan government has been working around this in the last years in various ways, which include diversification of the economy and new trade partners. Oil production will go up again, but it will take time. The rise in oil prices in the last months will certainly help.
Oil production is a business that depends on access to credit: if you cannot get loans from banks it's almost impossible to support the high flow of investments needed to keep production up. Venezuela (which is not in default) has been cut off US banking system and that means:
- No access to loans, like anybody else.
- No access to transactions in USD, like anybody else.
The Venezuelan government has been working around this in the last years in various ways, which include diversification of the economy and new trade partners. Oil production will go up again, but it will take time. The rise in oil prices in the last months will certainly help.
May 21, 2018, 05:27:30 PM
So, now after Maduro’s win a new wave of sanctions is about to come, will it affect El Petro?
I don’t know why people here ignore the fact that Venezuelan oil industry is having a really hard time at least, whereas this particular crypto is oil-backed. I don’t see how Venezuela will survive a new pack of sanctions
The difficulty Venezuela oil production has is from efficiency and refinement required to be profitable. Ive heard of alot oil reserves similarly not easy to extract or utilise but any industry depends on an efficient process imo. It is helped some by the rise in oil prices recently, thats related to the Iran deal and ongoing troubles in Libya and Nigeria. Both of which are part of OPEC I think though not sure they signed up to the last agreement.
This currency circumvents the sanctions partly because its no longer requiring dollar or Swift clearance to take place. Thats probably a large part of the incentive because I was pretty sure crypto mining was previously heavily discouraged.
I dont know how they can fix the efficiency problem, they have greater leeway now fairly sure but long term thats going to continue to be a factor. I believe in competitive industry personally not central government solutions
May 21, 2018, 04:40:01 PM
Venezuela Elects Nicolas Maduro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9thWPaT7C00
Nicolas Maduro Wins Venezuela Elections
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cosNOLtqg8
Russia and China Respects Election Result in Venezuela
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEtbXBFdZLU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9thWPaT7C00
Nicolas Maduro Wins Venezuela Elections
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cosNOLtqg8
Russia and China Respects Election Result in Venezuela
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEtbXBFdZLU
May 21, 2018, 09:54:28 AM
The abstention and boycott of US funded mafia opposition didn't work much: they could have won, maybe, if they presented a single candidate. But they are wealthy, white coup plotters and massively corrupted, so they prefer to avoid participating in democracy (with all the excuses we know well). Most of them are paid by the US to boycott democracy, and their own country. So fuck them! Good luck Venezuela!
Maduro was reelected President with 68% of the popular vote = 5.8 million votes (not 100% of the votes counted yet). NOW FIESTA! Y viva el Petro!
Eso es seguro! Todos con Maduro!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKFi-Hvg3Rc
https://i.imgur.com/8sFuHle.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kkuQiuJ.jpg
Maduro was reelected President with 68% of the popular vote = 5.8 million votes (not 100% of the votes counted yet). NOW FIESTA! Y viva el Petro!
Eso es seguro! Todos con Maduro!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKFi-Hvg3Rc
https://i.imgur.com/8sFuHle.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kkuQiuJ.jpg
May 21, 2018, 08:21:13 AM
your question was very clear.
Petro will maintain the same price as the oil price? i really don't know.
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Nicolas Maduro won the presidential elections.
Arikana Chihombori, Ambassador Of The African Union In Washington, talks about the venezuelan elections.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nrNtd1bU2s
This is How Venezuelan Electoral System Works
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BLMZFVCDmA
The Venezuelan Landscape, According To Western Media
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y3h-MeljB8
Petro will maintain the same price as the oil price? i really don't know.
---
Nicolas Maduro won the presidential elections.
Arikana Chihombori, Ambassador Of The African Union In Washington, talks about the venezuelan elections.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nrNtd1bU2s
This is How Venezuelan Electoral System Works
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BLMZFVCDmA
The Venezuelan Landscape, According To Western Media
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y3h-MeljB8
Fantastic videos , so much ignorants believe fake news...
May 21, 2018, 07:41:32 AM
So, now after Maduro’s win a new wave of sanctions is about to come, will it affect El Petro?
I don’t know why people here ignore the fact that Venezuelan oil industry is having a really hard time at least, whereas this particular crypto is oil-backed. I don’t see how Venezuela will survive a new pack of sanctions
May 21, 2018, 07:23:49 AM
So, now after Maduro’s win a new wave of sanctions is about to come, will it affect El Petro?
May 21, 2018, 04:28:40 AM
your question was very clear.
Petro will maintain the same price as the oil price? i really don't know.
---
Nicolas Maduro won the presidential elections.
Arikana Chihombori, Ambassador Of The African Union In Washington, talks about the venezuelan elections.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nrNtd1bU2s
This is How Venezuelan Electoral System Works
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BLMZFVCDmA
The Venezuelan Landscape, According To Western Media
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y3h-MeljB8
Petro will maintain the same price as the oil price? i really don't know.
---
Nicolas Maduro won the presidential elections.
Arikana Chihombori, Ambassador Of The African Union In Washington, talks about the venezuelan elections.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nrNtd1bU2s
This is How Venezuelan Electoral System Works
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BLMZFVCDmA
The Venezuelan Landscape, According To Western Media
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y3h-MeljB8
May 20, 2018, 11:27:41 PM
That's not what I ask, I asked you what you personally think of the price? I don't believe you don't have an opinion on that...thanks
May 20, 2018, 09:53:04 PM
coinve, do you think the price of the Petro will always remain the same as the oil price?
i don't know what could happen with the petro, i am not a fortune teller.we are waiting the release of the petro, after that we can discuss about prices.
May 20, 2018, 03:47:07 PM
i think they are waiting for the next presidential elections (next sunday)
- if Maduro wins, petrocoin will continue and it will be released soon.
- if Maduro loses, petrocoin buyers are fucked because the U.S. dictatorship will shutdown the petrocoin.
well... the next president start the next year (2019), so... who knows what's going to happen.
coinve, do you think the price of the Petro will always remain the same as the oil price - if Maduro wins, petrocoin will continue and it will be released soon.
- if Maduro loses, petrocoin buyers are fucked because the U.S. dictatorship will shutdown the petrocoin.
well... the next president start the next year (2019), so... who knows what's going to happen.
May 20, 2018, 03:19:04 AM
Ook
May 19, 2018, 07:18:59 PM
english please or go to the spanish subforum, thanks.
May 19, 2018, 06:16:19 PM
Pura estafa, mero engaño, el Petro es humo para bobos.
http://explorer.nemchina.com/?#/s_account?account=NBC2LLR5W2NSH6MYI7O6PT7OF34CSL55L27ZXTQZ
http://explorer.nemchina.com/?#/s_account?account=NATWRRG53SJCYGRRDYEX4YVEHX3U2OKNMX6TNPHS
http://explorer.nemchina.com/?#/s_account?account=NC2LEUTTZVOZLP6TBZSZFWTFR3MQ7O3LXZYXRRM4
http://explorer.nemchina.com/?#/s_account?account=NCGBBZKOTERO3EXMPPCNDNDXZQQJXBEMWWO7MB66
¿¿¿¿ DONDE ESTAN LAS ADQUISIONES DE LAS COMPAÑIAS PETROLERAS?
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7 abr. 2018
Nicolás Maduro afirma que se han adquirido 30 ambulancias en petros
El mandatario nacional afirma que la adquisición de la ambulancia para el recinto hospitalario fue adquirida con la criptomoneda venezolana
En fin. ¡¡Lo de el Petro solo es para BOOBOOS!!!
http://explorer.nemchina.com/?#/s_account?account=NBC2LLR5W2NSH6MYI7O6PT7OF34CSL55L27ZXTQZ
http://explorer.nemchina.com/?#/s_account?account=NATWRRG53SJCYGRRDYEX4YVEHX3U2OKNMX6TNPHS
http://explorer.nemchina.com/?#/s_account?account=NC2LEUTTZVOZLP6TBZSZFWTFR3MQ7O3LXZYXRRM4
http://explorer.nemchina.com/?#/s_account?account=NCGBBZKOTERO3EXMPPCNDNDXZQQJXBEMWWO7MB66
¿¿¿¿ DONDE ESTAN LAS ADQUISIONES DE LAS COMPAÑIAS PETROLERAS
?--------------------------
7 abr. 2018
Nicolás Maduro afirma que se han adquirido 30 ambulancias en petros
El mandatario nacional afirma que la adquisición de la ambulancia para el recinto hospitalario fue adquirida con la criptomoneda venezolana
En fin. ¡¡Lo de el Petro solo es para BOOBOOS!!!
May 19, 2018, 02:35:05 PM
LA ESTAFA DEL PETRO EN NUMEROS
(Nivel básico: apto para rojitos)
20 + 8,5 + 0,3 + 20 + 8,33 + 20 + 0,56 + 0,29 + 20 + (55,63?) = 153,31 Millones de Petros
¿Pero no eran 100 millones los Petros creados? ¿Cuántos se vendieron realmente?
Dios que desastre!!!
(20) Maduro, en referencia al plan de su país de desarrollar sus relaciones con el Gobierno palestino, aseveró que la Comisión de Palestina en Venezuela asume “el petro como criptomoneda para el intercambio, el comercio y el pago de transacciones y se cree un fondo binacional de financiamiento y desarrollo en conjunto para el cual el país bolivariano aportará 20 millones de petros”.
(8,5) El presidente de Venezuela, Nicolás Maduro, anunció este jueves la creación de un Fondo Industrial y Económico crediticio para respaldar al sector empresarial, por un monto de 8 millones 500 mil petros, equivalente a 510 millones de dólares.
(0,3) El presidente de la República, Nicolás Maduro, firmó este martes un convenio por 2 millones 300 mil petros para la Gran Misión Vivienda Venezuela (GMVV), con el objetivo de seguir protegiendo a las familias más necesitadas del país.
(20) El presidente de la República Bolivariana de Venezuela, Nicolás Maduro, anunció este jueves que dispondrá de 20 millones de Petros, la criptomoneda nacional, para dar inicio a las operaciones del primer Banco Digital de Criptomonedas para los jóvenes del país.
(8,33) El presidente de la República, Nicolás Maduro, anunció este viernes que entregará 500 millones de dólares en petros para la reactivación de la zona económica de Paraguaná, del estado Falcón.
(20) Maduro asigna 20 millones de petros a Zona Económica en Miranda
(0,56) El mandatario otorgó 565.000 petros para la rehabilitación de la infraestructura de la entidad y del sistema de riego.
(0,29) Maduro también aprobó 290.000 petros para el Plan de Siembra de la entidad.
(20) El presidente de la República Bolivariana de Venezuela, Nicolás Maduro Moros, aprobó este martes 20 millones de Petros destinados para la inversión económica en el estado Carabobo.
(55,63) Maduro dice que la preventa del Petro cerró en 3 mil 338 millones de dólares
(Nivel básico: apto para rojitos)
20 + 8,5 + 0,3 + 20 + 8,33 + 20 + 0,56 + 0,29 + 20 + (55,63?) = 153,31 Millones de Petros
¿Pero no eran 100 millones los Petros creados? ¿Cuántos se vendieron realmente?
Dios que desastre!!!
(20) Maduro, en referencia al plan de su país de desarrollar sus relaciones con el Gobierno palestino, aseveró que la Comisión de Palestina en Venezuela asume “el petro como criptomoneda para el intercambio, el comercio y el pago de transacciones y se cree un fondo binacional de financiamiento y desarrollo en conjunto para el cual el país bolivariano aportará 20 millones de petros”.
(8,5) El presidente de Venezuela, Nicolás Maduro, anunció este jueves la creación de un Fondo Industrial y Económico crediticio para respaldar al sector empresarial, por un monto de 8 millones 500 mil petros, equivalente a 510 millones de dólares.
(0,3) El presidente de la República, Nicolás Maduro, firmó este martes un convenio por 2 millones 300 mil petros para la Gran Misión Vivienda Venezuela (GMVV), con el objetivo de seguir protegiendo a las familias más necesitadas del país.
(20) El presidente de la República Bolivariana de Venezuela, Nicolás Maduro, anunció este jueves que dispondrá de 20 millones de Petros, la criptomoneda nacional, para dar inicio a las operaciones del primer Banco Digital de Criptomonedas para los jóvenes del país.
(8,33) El presidente de la República, Nicolás Maduro, anunció este viernes que entregará 500 millones de dólares en petros para la reactivación de la zona económica de Paraguaná, del estado Falcón.
(20) Maduro asigna 20 millones de petros a Zona Económica en Miranda
(0,56) El mandatario otorgó 565.000 petros para la rehabilitación de la infraestructura de la entidad y del sistema de riego.
(0,29) Maduro también aprobó 290.000 petros para el Plan de Siembra de la entidad.
(20) El presidente de la República Bolivariana de Venezuela, Nicolás Maduro Moros, aprobó este martes 20 millones de Petros destinados para la inversión económica en el estado Carabobo.
(55,63) Maduro dice que la preventa del Petro cerró en 3 mil 338 millones de dólares
Did Maduro say he would assign those Petro simultaneously? Petro will be circulating. For example, foreign oil companies that acquired Petro, will pay Venezuela with those Petro when they buy oil, and Venezuela will use those Petro in local investment and imports.
¿Dijo Maduro que haría esas asignaciones de Petro simultáneamente? El Petro estará circulando. Por ejemplo, las compañías extranjeras petroleras que adquirieron Petro, pagarán a Venezuela con esos Petro cuando compren petróleo y Venezuela usará esos Petro para inversión interna y para importaciones.
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