⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 17.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 10, 2025, 12:56:23 PM

As for Chelsea... I'm really disappointed with them lately. Sad

They couldn't win for 4 weeks straight. What's happening? I hope to see a win against Bournemouth in their next game. I want to see them in the Champions League finally.

Actually, a draw is enough for Chelsea to avoid defeat, this is a matter of time, whenever it can change all the games, no one is disappointed because so far it has been much more than enough for Chelsea to be in 4th position, it is not easy, because we know that in the last few years they have always had difficulty being in the middle of the standings which is far from the European Cup Zone, whatever the results Chelsea get, it is a good result for Chelsea's development this season.

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Quote from: len01 on January 10, 2025, 07:56:37 PM

Quote from: hahay on January 10, 2025, 12:20:53 PM

Indeed, it is necessary to have a bolder decision if Amorim really has a plan to form a better team for Manchester United. Although the squad overhaul will spend a lot of budget, but if the results will be good, why not. Because to improve the team's performance in a hurry as is happening now, of course it will be difficult to get the results as expected. Therefore, if Manchester United really gives full support to Amorim, then next season we should see Manchester United with many new faces which of course are very much expected to give good results too.

Well, not only does it require a large budget but it also takes a long time to form a consistent squad if you really want to make a major overhaul of the Man United player line up. So when in the coming season we see many new players but have not gotten positive results, we also have to understand the condition. Because to unite the chemistry between the players takes a long time and also the coach needs to do many things to make Man United more stable. I will not expect more but just want to see Amorim do it all slowly to get more perfect results.

I think the same as you, for this season I myself do not want to demand much from Amorin I want him to get a lot of praise so that he is more confident to give his best, Amorin needs trust and I think we have to trust the process and also every decision he makes, Amorin has proven himself well at his old club so I think he has big thoughts I really hope for trust from management for him and give some players for him to be able to develop Man United again, currently no one can be blamed with these red devils except management and those big-headed players.

I am quite optimistic that Amorin is quite firm and does not show favoritism, players who do not want to run are invited to cooperate directly he gives sanctions that is quite satisfying for me Man United fans, and the same as you I quite trust Amorin's process even though it is not this season he needs time and also the players he expects.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 10, 2025, 12:56:23 PM

I see Manchester City having an away game vs Brentford. After winning 2 games in a row Guardiola's club look stronger. I liked their effort in the last one too. I guess I will seriously think of adding their win into my parlay after a while. Grin

Yes, Brentford is also not a good performance, They only won once in the last 5 games, but The city must be careful with Mbeumo and friends because they were able to defeat Southampton 0-5 at st Mary Stadium, this will be a threat for the city to do not careless with their defense because Brentford look begin to rise and discover their strategy. The city have to go through the previous match, they was able to defeat Brentford 2-1 on Etihad Stadium. Haaland create the brace, and all goals happen on 1st half, with this experience, Pep must focusing Haaland to repeat it again, and maybe he will apply the same scheme to repeat the win.

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Quote from: hahay on January 10, 2025, 12:20:53 PM

Indeed, it is necessary to have a bolder decision if Amorim really has a plan to form a better team for Manchester United. Although the squad overhaul will spend a lot of budget, but if the results will be good, why not. Because to improve the team's performance in a hurry as is happening now, of course it will be difficult to get the results as expected. Therefore, if Manchester United really gives full support to Amorim, then next season we should see Manchester United with many new faces which of course are very much expected to give good results too.

Well, not only does it require a large budget but it also takes a long time to form a consistent squad if you really want to make a major overhaul of the Man United player line up. So when in the coming season we see many new players but have not gotten positive results, we also have to understand the condition. Because to unite the chemistry between the players takes a long time and also the coach needs to do many things to make Man United more stable. I will not expect more but just want to see Amorim do it all slowly to get more perfect results.

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Quote from: bitgolden on January 10, 2025, 02:06:02 AM

Premier league is of course a very competitive league and we could of course see teams do differently and have some different results and all that but I am not sure if we are going to see anyone competing against Liverpool, that seems like it is not going to be that common and probably won't happen because it doesn't look like anyone else plays as well as they are playing right now. This is why I believe that Liverpool will be the eventual champions and said that before.

The Premier League is the most competitive among all Europe top divisions that it is also the most interesting league because of the tense in the league whereby it is always difficult to define a team that will win the trophy except when the league is about to come to an end. Liverpool last won the Premier League during the 2019/2020 season and since then they have been making attempts to win it again but they have been failing but for this season, they are very prepared and are not ready to give any other team chances to overtake them. Even Manchester City that could have been the strongest team to contend the title against Liverpool but they declined in performance along the way and gave Liverpool the free privilege they are enjoying now without feeling threatened. If Liverpool makes any mistakes and lose out the trophy this season, it will take them long to have this kind of opportunity in the future because more teams are beginning to grow up and becoming competitive while those traditional teams we know to be strong are already fallen apart.

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Quote from: aylabadia05 on January 10, 2025, 07:42:03 AM

Next season Manchester United will be different from previous seasons. I release this with myself as a Manchester United fan.
Amorim already knows what should be done to reshape Manchester United. We also welcome the rumors that several players who have filled the line up in the previous seasons will be released.

Marcus Rashford is not included in Amorim's plans. Antony is also not included including several other names.
This is a courage I think to rebuild the foundation of Manchester United.

Do you know where I gave up on your statement? When you said you are a fan of Manchester United. Grin

The truth is this, you can't say exactly when team are going to make a U turn, you don't know exactly when they start under performing and you don't know when they are about to outperform their past. Look at Chelsea, when Maresca came, even the fans didn't take him serious until they went to the top of the table and even up till now, there are some people that doesn't trust him.

If Amorim is giving time, he is going to transform that team and their performance but of course he need time. If really he has played with this set of players before now, many of them contract would have been tarminated for another club either by force loan or sold or you remain without career. I like how the season isn't ended yet but many players are already making moves for another club because they know the club is fine with them for now.

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Quote from: baeva on January 10, 2025, 04:13:25 PM

Not just a record-breaking one, it will be a real legendary comeback, which nobody believes in at the moment, because if you look at the situation adequately, they really have very little chance of even climbing to the second line, let alone winning. But in addition to the EPL they have the Champions League, in which not everything is lost and something can be tried, but with such a game of course and there they will not succeed. I hope they continue their winning streak after a few wins

I don't believe Manchester City can make it to the top of the league even if they get back their usual New Year form, but I believe they can make it to 2nd position. The difference between them and Arsenal who are in 2nd is 4 points and with the way Arsnal is becoming inconsistent, I don't think it's impossible for Manchester City to overtake them.

As for winning the league, Liverpool won't drop points enough for Manchester City or any other team to take over. The way I see it, Manchester City will definitely make it to the top 4, and they have a chance to overthrow all of Chelsea, Arsenal and Nottingham Forest if they pick their form back.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on January 09, 2025, 05:22:25 AM

Honestly I would be very okay with watching a title competition until the end of the season. Grin

Therefore seeing Liverpool stumbling isn't a problem to me. When it comes to how long they will keep it up, I'm also curious. In the end Arne Slot is in his first season in the Premier League managing a this big team for the first time in his manager career. As a young manager (46) at the same time, we all must be curious how quick he will handle it.

If you look at the points acquisition now, it actually won't be a problem if Liverpool lose their momentum especially if it happens only once or several times because in the end things like this will not bother them too much in terms of the standings but still in the end the situation when they stumble can change the momentum that occurs. We can see the example of Manchester City, which initially started from an unexpected mistake which in the end half of the season ended with a decline in performance due to loss of motivation considering they lost a lot of momentum in the matches they played.

Something like this can still happen to other big clubs including Liverpool so that in the end losing points in a match even though it won't be too much of a problem but it must still be minimized so that they get used to the confidence and momentum that is still maintained until the end of the season.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on January 10, 2025, 04:33:25 AM

Quote from: Alpha Marine on January 09, 2025, 03:39:14 PM

That's for you that's not a Liverpool fan. Grin

Every Liverpool fan will want the gap to be increased as much as possible. They will want them to run away with the league if possible because if they don't any little mistake can make them lose the league.
Liverpool is 6 points ahead with a game in hand, so i doubt they will bottle the league though. I don't think they will drop form so much that another team will overthrow them from the first position.

Yeah you got me there. Tongue

Probably Liverpool fans got a little worried after the last 2 results they got in the Premier League - EFL Cup combined. But like I said, only a little.

Because they don't need to be that sad about it as they still hold a big advantage in the league. Salah's huge performance must be enough to keep them confident.

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If it was Manchester City that was in the position of Arsenal and Liverpool was just 6 points ahead of them then I maybe that they can catch up with them, but Arsenal cant. In fact, I belive instead of Arsenal to catch up, Liverpool will extend the gap even further because Arsenal will drop more points.

Manchester City have it in them to catch up in that case really. I don't mean this season but normally I would agree. For this season, they must continue without point loss. Otherwise they wouldn't have any realistic chance. It depends on what the teams between will do meanwhile too though. It is like mission impossible. Grin

But if somehow Guardiola makes it to the title, I assume it would be a record-breaking comeback.

Not just a record-breaking one, it will be a real legendary comeback, which nobody believes in at the moment, because if you look at the situation adequately, they really have very little chance of even climbing to the second line, let alone winning. But in addition to the EPL they have the Champions League, in which not everything is lost and something can be tried, but with such a game of course and there they will not succeed. I hope they continue their winning streak after a few wins

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Quote from: aylabadia05 on January 10, 2025, 03:11:58 PM

It was a little confusing when Ruud van Nistelrooy became Manchester United's interim coach. At that time Manchester United had obtained the target as dreamed of by many fans and at that time Manchester United's management was looking for a permanent coach until finally the choice fell on Amorim. Of course when many expectations are expected of him, it is something natural.

Manchester United under Ruud Van Nistelrooy was a good short period of Manchester United team. I enjoyed watching his games as an interim manager where he managed 4 games and won 3 of the games while one was a draw. For me, that was a good performance acting in the capacity of a placeholder and preparing the minds of the players against Amorim. I think Leicester City was also smart enough to quickly get hold of Van Nistelrooy and his first match with the Leicester City was actually a won match against the West Ham United club on the 3rd of last month. Although since that first win, Nistelrooy have been finding it difficult to win more matches but I'm pretty much confident that he well this year when he's more balanced.

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Quote from: mamesso on January 10, 2025, 09:50:01 AM

Quote from: aylabadia05 on January 10, 2025, 07:42:03 AM

Next season Manchester United will be different from previous seasons. I release this with myself as a Manchester United fan.
Amorim already knows what should be done to reshape Manchester United. We also welcome the rumors that several players who have filled the line up in the previous seasons will be released.

Marcus Rashford is not included in Amorim's plans. Antony is also not included including several other names.
This is a courage I think to rebuild the foundation of Manchester United.

No one can deny that, Amorim arrival is expected to bring about major changes to their performance. Several players have started to be put on the sales list and will be replaced with several new players who suit the team's needs. Regarding Rashford, the situation is clear, he is in a situation similar to what Osimhen experienced at Napoli. His future with Man United is over, he must immediately find a new adventure with another club to save his career.

It was a little confusing when Ruud van Nistelrooy became Manchester United's interim coach. At that time Manchester United had obtained the target as dreamed of by many fans and at that time Manchester United's management was looking for a permanent coach until finally the choice fell on Amorim. Of course when many expectations are expected of him, it is something natural.

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There are still 4 more days for Week 21 games to begin. The interval for the next games has been quite long because of EFL Cup and FA Cup games meanwhile also.

I see Manchester City having an away game vs Brentford. After winning 2 games in a row Guardiola's club look stronger. I liked their effort in the last one too. I guess I will seriously think of adding their win into my parlay after a while. Grin

As for Chelsea... I'm really disappointed with them lately. Sad

They couldn't win for 4 weeks straight. What's happening? I hope to see a win against Bournemouth in their next game. I want to see them in the Champions League finally.

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Quote from: mamesso on January 10, 2025, 09:50:01 AM

Quote from: aylabadia05 on January 10, 2025, 07:42:03 AM

Next season Manchester United will be different from previous seasons. I release this with myself as a Manchester United fan.
Amorim already knows what should be done to reshape Manchester United. We also welcome the rumors that several players who have filled the line up in the previous seasons will be released.

Marcus Rashford is not included in Amorim's plans. Antony is also not included including several other names.
This is a courage I think to rebuild the foundation of Manchester United.

No one can deny that, Amorim arrival is expected to bring about major changes to their performance. Several players have started to be put on the sales list and will be replaced with several new players who suit the team's needs. Regarding Rashford, the situation is clear, he is in a situation similar to what Osimhen experienced at Napoli. His future with Man United is over, he must immediately find a new adventure with another club to save his career.

Indeed, it is necessary to have a bolder decision if Amorim really has a plan to form a better team for Manchester United. Although the squad overhaul will spend a lot of budget, but if the results will be good, why not. Because to improve the team's performance in a hurry as is happening now, of course it will be difficult to get the results as expected. Therefore, if Manchester United really gives full support to Amorim, then next season we should see Manchester United with many new faces which of course are very much expected to give good results too.

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Quote from: aylabadia05 on January 10, 2025, 07:42:03 AM

Quote from: KingsDen on January 09, 2025, 03:03:05 PM

Quote from: aylabadia05 on January 09, 2025, 02:45:43 PM

As for Manchester United performance, I think ~~Armorim~~ Amorim is on the mission to make changes in the club and by next season he could do something better.

Next season Manchester United will be different from previous seasons. I release this with myself as a Manchester United fan.
Amorim already knows what should be done to reshape Manchester United. We also welcome the rumors that several players who have filled the line up in the previous seasons will be released.

Marcus Rashford is not included in Amorim's plans. Antony is also not included including several other names.
This is a courage I think to rebuild the foundation of Manchester United.

I salute your commitment and optimism as a Manchester United fan at the moment, because so far I have seen many Manchester United fans who have forgotten and hidden from their identity as Red Devils fans when their team is down Cheesy

, so far we not yet seen much improvement in Red Devils performance but Amorim seems to be starting has find their main problem at the moment, so I think the second season will be a better season for Manchester United if they still stay in the Premier League next season Grin

, they actually have a lot of quality players in their squad,but it looks like Amorim will completely overhaul the team to only retain players who fit his criteria next season.

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Quote from: aylabadia05 on January 10, 2025, 07:42:03 AM

Next season Manchester United will be different from previous seasons. I release this with myself as a Manchester United fan.
Amorim already knows what should be done to reshape Manchester United. We also welcome the rumors that several players who have filled the line up in the previous seasons will be released.

Marcus Rashford is not included in Amorim's plans. Antony is also not included including several other names.
This is a courage I think to rebuild the foundation of Manchester United.

No one can deny that, Amorim arrival is expected to bring about major changes to their performance. Several players have started to be put on the sales list and will be replaced with several new players who suit the team's needs. Regarding Rashford, the situation is clear, he is in a situation similar to what Osimhen experienced at Napoli. His future with Man United is over, he must immediately find a new adventure with another club to save his career.

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De Bruyne's injury still impacting club's performance. He often contributed a lot when he's fit. The club being so clueless when he was not playing as they have no good break line passer other than him. Despite often missed the games, but he still contributes to the club.

De Bruyne has been an important player for Manchester City for long, he is among the key players Manchester City depends on whenever they are in need of goals, and his contribution when he is fit is even more better than any other player playing in his position in the whole Premier League; that is why even if Pep Guardiola is saying that they can do without him, I do believe some times, but when they face big opponents, they struggle to create chances.

It is so unfortunate that his injury has had such an impact on his performance and the team’s performance because he happens to be one of the key figures in the team. Soon he will leave the club I think Pep Guardiola is gearing up for life without Kelvin De Bryune. Good thing they are finally finding their pace again with back to back victories including victory against Westham in their last outing, hopefully the start of their journey to recovery.

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Quote from: KingsDen on January 09, 2025, 03:03:05 PM

Quote from: aylabadia05 on January 09, 2025, 02:45:43 PM

As for Manchester United performance, I think ~~Armorim~~ Amorim is on the mission to make changes in the club and by next season he could do something better.

Next season Manchester United will be different from previous seasons. I release this with myself as a Manchester United fan.
Amorim already knows what should be done to reshape Manchester United. We also welcome the rumors that several players who have filled the line up in the previous seasons will be released.

Marcus Rashford is not included in Amorim's plans. Antony is also not included including several other names.
This is a courage I think to rebuild the foundation of Manchester United.

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Quote from: Alpha Marine on January 09, 2025, 03:39:14 PM

That's for you that's not a Liverpool fan. Grin

Every Liverpool fan will want the gap to be increased as much as possible. They will want them to run away with the league if possible because if they don't any little mistake can make them lose the league.
Liverpool is 6 points ahead with a game in hand, so i doubt they will bottle the league though. I don't think they will drop form so much that another team will overthrow them from the first position.

Yeah you got me there. Tongue

Probably Liverpool fans got a little worried after the last 2 results they got in the Premier League - EFL Cup combined. But like I said, only a little.

Because they don't need to be that sad about it as they still hold a big advantage in the league. Salah's huge performance must be enough to keep them confident.

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If it was Manchester City that was in the position of Arsenal and Liverpool was just 6 points ahead of them then I maybe that they can catch up with them, but Arsenal cant. In fact, I belive instead of Arsenal to catch up, Liverpool will extend the gap even further because Arsenal will drop more points.

Manchester City have it in them to catch up in that case really. I don't mean this season but normally I would agree. For this season, they must continue without point loss. Otherwise they wouldn't have any realistic chance. It depends on what the teams between will do meanwhile too though. It is like mission impossible. Grin

But if somehow Guardiola makes it to the title, I assume it would be a record-breaking comeback.

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Quote from: tusandii on January 09, 2025, 11:50:02 PM

I don't understand why West Ham appointed a manager who has a bad record in previous EPL coaching (when he was Brighton and Chelsea manager) West Ham should have appointed a manager who has a good record to restore their performance if they appointed a manager who is not much different why change managers when currently West Ham is really in a worse condition than last season and I doubt Graham Potter can handle a club that is in a slump.

No, he previously had a brilliant record at Brighton and could even lift Brighton to the main competition and even become a dark horse club starting from the Potter era but indeed a mistake he made was moving to Chelsea which made a very good image disappear because of his poor performance at Chelsea.

Actually it is not wrong for West Ham to glance at Potter because even though at Chelsea it was a failure but to make an ordinary club change for the better maybe Potter can still be used as an option to training and this is another opportunity for Potter to prove himself that he can still be a good coach even though he has previously failed at a big club.
Indeed, this will be a gamble especially since West Ham's current condition is not very good but I think to lift a little position owned by West Ham Potter will still be able to do that at the end of the season.

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Quote from: Odohu on January 09, 2025, 05:59:59 AM

Quote from: AirtelBuzz on January 09, 2025, 05:38:40 AM

Liverpool are not slowly getting weaker in the Premier League but they are slowly becoming a stronger team, perhaps you can clearly understand that if you look at their performances in recent times. Many people have discussed the match in which Liverpool drew against Manchester United And they think Liverpool are getting weaker. In fact, no team can win all the matches in football, Maybe that's not even possible. According to the statistics of that match between Liverpool and Manchester United, Liverpool performed well, yet they unexpectedly drew the match against Manchester United. Everyone may be surprised to see a match between Liverpool and Tottenham today, because Liverpool lost 1-0 to Tottenham in that match. That match was the semi-final match of the EFL Cup.

Their last match against Manchester United actually opposed your opinion because Liverpool actually did not play optimally like they are know for. I know you may argue that Manchester United got better in that match but I don't think that is a good justification for such conclusion even though Manchester United indeed played with high spirit. Liverpool that we know would have won that match comfortably well but their performance was indeed below expectations. If not of hard luck, United would have won that match because they had more chances at scoring and even made more effort than Liverpool in that match. Let us see how they will perform in their next match against Nottingham Forest.

I am sure that they will go back to playing well again, they are not a team who could lose their "way" that easily because they are not playing some complicated game, plus their defense is pretty solid and I am sure they will do fine with that as well. VVD plays amazing defense and has shown why Liverpool should resign him, I am sure they will do fine and we will not see this all that commonly.

Premier league is of course a very competitive league and we could of course see teams do differently and have some different results and all that but I am not sure if we are going to see anyone competing against Liverpool, that seems like it is not going to be that common and probably won't happen because it doesn't look like anyone else plays as well as they are playing right now. This is why I believe that Liverpool will be the eventual champions and said that before.

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