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Quote from: mamesso on December 08, 2024, 08:12:50 AM

Amorim felt that his team was incompetent because they were lazy to fight and lacked motivation to achieve victory, this situation made it difficult for him to build a solid squad because there was no chemistry with the players. Amorim must be able to form a starting XI that has a mission to always achieve victory, he must utilize the January transfer market to bring in several players who are considered able to help the team out of the slump. He still has time to make Manchester United one of the teams that can compete in the top six, but he needs support from the team management.

Most of the time, the level of performance of the manager is always akin to the performance level of the players. Players are not easy set of individuals to control. Anyone's tasked with the responsibility of controlling human beings with high intelligence must be generally strong, and firm with decision making. They must have the ability to satisfy the ego of these players while ensuring everything is within the range of the required target and end goal of the team. This is what Amorim must encourage the team to do. He needs to study them more

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Quote from: Litzki1990 on December 08, 2024, 07:29:13 AM

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Have you forgotten that Manchester City are entangled in many charges regarding their budget? they could recruit players but this might add to the problems for them who are struggling to resolve the case I think Man City are keeping a low profile in recruiting players they also still have the best players at the moment we just have to wait for Man City's revival and trust everything to Pep Guardiola.

Yes Manchester City are in some trouble but at the same time they always get away with it. I don't want to think negatively but my question is is there someone playing behind the scenes? But I hope that is a baseless question and it doesn't happen. I don't know what moves they will make in the transfer market, will they recruit a lot of players or will they stick with what they have now. But when you look at Guardiola, I think he is one of the managers who is quite clever in bringing in players and maybe he will do that in this transfer window.

Manchester City have never looked as desperate as they seem this season. Manchester City are regularly losing against the team against which it could be said that Manchester City will get full points. A performance like this from Manchester City is undoubtedly a huge disappointment. But a club and club management would never want them to perform poorly on a regular basis and even if they have performed poorly unintentionally, they will still try to find ways to get them to perform well again. Manchester City is doing the same but they are not performing well the only reason is that Manchester City currently does not have the players who can give their best performance to win the team.

Manchester City full strength team could not win against Crystal Palace full strength football team and match was ended with 2-2 score. The players of Manchester City team are not experienced players and that's why the result of that match is level. Nottingham Forest team won againt Manchester City full strength team and we can saw that how much weaker is Manchester City team in this season because mostly best players of that team are not part of that team ,So they have to face defeats in these matches but players have to learn from their mistakes but I think that season is not of Manchester City team and I think Liverpool ful strength team will be winner in this season because their performance is at top and they continuously winning all matches.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on December 08, 2024, 01:47:17 PM

Quote from: hahay on December 08, 2024, 01:31:09 PM

I was very impressed with the way Chelsea rose to be able to turn things around, playing away really did not make Chelsea pessimistic despite having conceded with two quick Tottenham goals in the first 11 minutes of the match. The situation is clear, will make it difficult for the away team to be able to make a comeback but anyway, the reality is that Chelsea really managed to make three goals in the second half which made this match end with a score of 3-4. With excellent results like this, then of course Chelsea will be a difficult competitor for Arsenal to be able to finish in second place.

But, if suddenly Liverpool lose their consistency, then of course Chelsea and Arsenal will be able to provide a real threat to overtake Liverpool at the top of the standings. Although indeed, Liverpool have one match postponed which will still provide an advantage for Liverpool but with a points gap like this time I think it is clear, Liverpool still have to focus on being able to ensure getting the trophy this season. Thus also, the appointment of Arne Slot at Liverpool and Enzo Maresca at Chelsea is a very appropriate choice because it can make their team be and compete at the top of the current Premier League standings.

Chelsea did have one of their best performance match this season today in my opinion, your prediction is rightly in the money, and a lot of of people here were anticipating a draw game for both side before and even when Chelsea were 2 goals down around 50th minutes of the game. Chelsea is now sitting on the 2nd spot and two points clear ahead of Arsenal on the premier league table after Arsenal drew their game against Fulham in their today's encounter.

Chelsea gave it their all against Tottenham tonight, demonstrating that Chelsea are in excellent form this season. I wish Chelsea were in the Champions League they would perform admirably and compete with major clubs. If Liverpool hadn't passed Chelsea with such a large gap in the league table, Chelsea should be on top right now. Because if Chelsea caught anyone now. In the league campaign, they will defeat numerous clubs. If Liverpool meets Chelsea now, it will be a difficult game; Liverpool cannot defeat them lightly; they will have to fight hard before they can get three points against them. What an incredible comeback for Chelsea tonight as they earn three points away from home. Chelsea will definitely try and play next season's Champions league because am very sure they will finish inside top 4 in the league table this season. Arsenal as fail to achieve three point against Fulham, i can complain on that game because arsenal really try but Fulham defence well and make it difficult for arsenal to add one goal in the match.

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Quote from: adultcrypto on December 08, 2024, 01:55:28 PM

Chelsea is really back to the strong team we once knew them to be. Sincerely, I never believe they would turn this match around and win it considering that they were two goals down at such an early time.

Chelsea's win is so surprising to me, they scored three goals in the second half of the match. I never expected such a good performance from Chelsea today. Chelsea is fully back to form. Enzo Maresca is really a talented coach, even when losing in a match, he is always having confidence in his players. Seriously, today's match is an incredible one for Chelsea. Tottenham should be ashamed of themselves, after leading with two goals, Chelsea was able to get a win in the match. Tottenham played at home, I was expecting a better performance from them. I never expected Chelsea to even score so many goals in the match.

Chelsea was able to get three points today, which is making them sit comfortably at the second position on the table. Arsenal, who has been dragging the position from them, ended up playing a draw against Fulham today, so they are now in third position.

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Quote from: Palakka on December 08, 2024, 02:05:17 PM

Honestly, what chelsea did today really surprised me, in the previous post I had said if most likely they would not win today given their mentality which is quite bad when facing big teams, but instead my assessment was wrong and they has shown a strong mentality in today match despite having to lag behind tottenham in the first half.

The victory achieved by chelsea today managed to make them in second place after previously arsenal drew with fulham, with liverpool also draw in the previous match of course at this time chelsea began to open their opportunities to become title contenders with liverpool.

Nobody expected Chelsea to make such a comeback after falling behind 2-0. Because Tottenham changed their tactics after going 2-0 up in just 11 minutes. They played a bit defensively. Tottenham has a pretty strong squad. When a team like Tottenham plays defensively, it is difficult for any opponent to break Tottenham's defense. But despite being behind 2-0, Chelsea's players scored four goals in this match. If Chelsea were a bit lucky. Chelsea scored two goals from penalties. But there is no denying that Chelsea played brilliantly in this match.

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Quote from: adultcrypto on December 08, 2024, 01:55:28 PM

Chelsea is really back to the strong team we once knew them to be. Sincerely, I never believe they would turn this match around and win it considering that they were two goals down at such an early time. It take great courage to be able to do this and I commend this great performance from the blues. Enzo and Palmer were outstanding tonight as well as all the forward. Now they have hope of fighting for the title race.

Honestly, despite knowing that Chelsea are in great form, they still surprised me with their comeback in this match against Tottenham. When Tottenham scored two goals, I thought they would win, or at best, Chelsea might get lucky and draw the game. However, Chelsea did something big today by making a comeback against a strong team like Tottenham.

With the way Chelsea is performing now and the results they are getting, it’s clear that they are also aiming for the Premier League title this season. It’s possible they might win it if Liverpool slips up. Initially, I thought Arsenal would be the team to take advantage if Liverpool falters, but I don’t think Arsenal has better chances than Chelsea. Chelsea are already leading Arsenal by two points, while Liverpool is ahead of Chelsea by four.Today, I’m more convinced than ever that Chelsea are in great form. I really like their style of play.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on December 08, 2024, 01:47:17 PM

Quote from: hahay on December 08, 2024, 01:31:09 PM

I was very impressed with the way Chelsea rose to be able to turn things around, playing away really did not make Chelsea pessimistic despite having conceded with two quick Tottenham goals in the first 11 minutes of the match. The situation is clear, will make it difficult for the away team to be able to make a comeback but anyway, the reality is that Chelsea really managed to make three goals in the second half which made this match end with a score of 3-4. With excellent results like this, then of course Chelsea will be a difficult competitor for Arsenal to be able to finish in second place.

But, if suddenly Liverpool lose their consistency, then of course Chelsea and Arsenal will be able to provide a real threat to overtake Liverpool at the top of the standings. Although indeed, Liverpool have one match postponed which will still provide an advantage for Liverpool but with a points gap like this time I think it is clear, Liverpool still have to focus on being able to ensure getting the trophy this season. Thus also, the appointment of Arne Slot at Liverpool and Enzo Maresca at Chelsea is a very appropriate choice because it can make their team be and compete at the top of the current Premier League standings.

Chelsea did have one of their best performance match this season today in my opinion, your prediction is rightly in the money, and a lot of of people here were anticipating a draw game for both side before and even when Chelsea were 2 goals down around 50th minutes of the game. Chelsea is now sitting on the 2nd spot and two points clear ahead of Arsenal on the premier league table after Arsenal drew their game against Fulham in their today's encounter.

Honestly, what chelsea did today really surprised me, in the previous post I had said if most likely they would not win today given their mentality which is quite bad when facing big teams, but instead my assessment was wrong and they has shown a strong mentality in today match despite having to lag behind tottenham in the first half.

The victory achieved by chelsea today managed to make them in second place after previously arsenal drew with fulham, with liverpool also draw in the previous match of course at this time chelsea began to open their opportunities to become title contenders with liverpool.

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Quote from: X-ray on December 08, 2024, 08:39:35 AM

Quote from: mamesso on December 08, 2024, 08:12:50 AM

It's very clear Amorim hinted his club was not running enough like what he expected. He has too many lazy players in his squad. His attackers were so damn lazy help in defending. Meanwhile his defenders are also too often made human errors. This is why i think he wanted players who can perform like an engine. Cheesy

It's obvious he's not satisfied with his current squad. Cheesy

I think Ruben Amorim is right about his opinion, but he also has to consider his own mistakes in applying the strategy. He shouldn't immediately impose his will on the squad he has just trained, so I think he also needs to introspect himself instead of just blaming his own squad's mentality. Some players don't seem to have the fighting power they expected, but Amorim can rotate so that competition between players increases.

Ruben Amorim needs to find the best solution so that Manchester United's performance improves with him. He started the game with good results as a coach, but then two defeats erased their previous good performance.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on December 08, 2024, 01:47:17 PM

Quote from: hahay on December 08, 2024, 01:31:09 PM

I was very impressed with the way Chelsea rose to be able to turn things around, playing away really did not make Chelsea pessimistic despite having conceded with two quick Tottenham goals in the first 11 minutes of the match. The situation is clear, will make it difficult for the away team to be able to make a comeback but anyway, the reality is that Chelsea really managed to make three goals in the second half which made this match end with a score of 3-4. With excellent results like this, then of course Chelsea will be a difficult competitor for Arsenal to be able to finish in second place.

But, if suddenly Liverpool lose their consistency, then of course Chelsea and Arsenal will be able to provide a real threat to overtake Liverpool at the top of the standings. Although indeed, Liverpool have one match postponed which will still provide an advantage for Liverpool but with a points gap like this time I think it is clear, Liverpool still have to focus on being able to ensure getting the trophy this season. Thus also, the appointment of Arne Slot at Liverpool and Enzo Maresca at Chelsea is a very appropriate choice because it can make their team be and compete at the top of the current Premier League standings.

Chelsea did have one of their best performance match this season today in my opinion, your prediction is rightly in the money, and a lot of of people here were anticipating a draw game for both side before and even when Chelsea were 2 goals down around 50th minutes of the game. Chelsea is now sitting on the 2nd spot and two points clear ahead of Arsenal on the premier league table after Arsenal drew their game against Fulham in their today's encounter.

Chelsea is really back to the strong team we once knew them to be. Sincerely, I never believe they would turn this match around and win it considering that they were two goals down at such an early time. It take great courage to be able to do this and I commend this great performance from the blues. Enzo and Palmer were outstanding tonight as well as all the forward. Now they have hope of fighting for the title race.

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Quote from: hahay on December 08, 2024, 01:31:09 PM

I was very impressed with the way Chelsea rose to be able to turn things around, playing away really did not make Chelsea pessimistic despite having conceded with two quick Tottenham goals in the first 11 minutes of the match. The situation is clear, will make it difficult for the away team to be able to make a comeback but anyway, the reality is that Chelsea really managed to make three goals in the second half which made this match end with a score of 3-4. With excellent results like this, then of course Chelsea will be a difficult competitor for Arsenal to be able to finish in second place.

But, if suddenly Liverpool lose their consistency, then of course Chelsea and Arsenal will be able to provide a real threat to overtake Liverpool at the top of the standings. Although indeed, Liverpool have one match postponed which will still provide an advantage for Liverpool but with a points gap like this time I think it is clear, Liverpool still have to focus on being able to ensure getting the trophy this season. Thus also, the appointment of Arne Slot at Liverpool and Enzo Maresca at Chelsea is a very appropriate choice because it can make their team be and compete at the top of the current Premier League standings.

Chelsea did have one of their best performance match this season today in my opinion, your prediction is rightly in the money, and a lot of of people here were anticipating a draw game for both side before and even when Chelsea were 2 goals down around 50th minutes of the game. Chelsea is now sitting on the 2nd spot and two points clear ahead of Arsenal on the premier league table after Arsenal drew their game against Fulham in their today's encounter.

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I was very impressed with the way Chelsea rose to be able to turn things around, playing away really did not make Chelsea pessimistic despite having conceded with two quick Tottenham goals in the first 11 minutes of the match. The situation is clear, will make it difficult for the away team to be able to make a comeback but anyway, the reality is that Chelsea really managed to make three goals in the second half which made this match end with a score of 3-4. With excellent results like this, then of course Chelsea will be a difficult competitor for Arsenal to be able to finish in second place.

But, if suddenly Liverpool lose their consistency, then of course Chelsea and Arsenal will be able to provide a real threat to overtake Liverpool at the top of the standings. Although indeed, Liverpool have one match postponed which will still provide an advantage for Liverpool but with a points gap like this time I think it is clear, Liverpool still have to focus on being able to ensure getting the trophy this season. Thus also, the appointment of Arne Slot at Liverpool and Enzo Maresca at Chelsea is a very appropriate choice because it can make their team be and compete at the top of the current Premier League standings.

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After losing points in a few consecutive matches, Arsenal won their last two matches against West Ham and Manchester United. After winning this match, we thought that Arsenal was back on track. Now, perhaps this team will fight for the title again. But we were wrong. Arsenal stumbled again in today's match against Fulham. Arsenal failed to win the away match against Fulham.

Arsenal dominated the match. Arsenal players tried hard to score. But Fulham was very tactical in this match. Fulham took the lead by scoring a goal in just 11 minutes of the match. And even then, Fulham played poorly defensively. They did not try to score any more goals. Fulham players were able to make only 2 shots in the entire match. Fulham's target was to end the match 1-0 or 1-1. And they were able to get 1 point from the match.

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The match has been going on for 10 minutes but United have to be behind by 1 goal even though the match has only been going on for 2 minutes. Nottingham managed to take the lead thanks to 1 goal made by Nikola Milenkovic.
Not a good start to the match for United, but the match is still quite long and they are currently dominating the match with ball possession. If Nottingham manages to beat United this time, then they will get a pretty good position in the standings.

Nottingham Forest football team played well in last match and that match was exciting and that team did 3 goals in this match . I am very impressed by the performance of Nottingham Forest team players. Milenković did goal at 2 minutes of the match and after we saw goal from Manchester United team and that team players tried to do goal at 18 minutes and they became successful to do goal at 18 minutes.
Gibbs-White did goal at 47 minutes of the match and after we saw one more goal from Manchester United team player and he did goal at 61 minutes of the match. The possession percentage of Manchester United team was excellent and that was 72 percent but that team could not win this match.

In that match, if you look closely, United had a lot of gaps in their midfield. The midfielders were mostly focused and effective when cutting off the opponent's attack. But when United players built attacks from the bottom, their defenders seemed to have difficulty seeing players to pass the ball to. United lacked players to be able to hold the ball and provide attacking options to their forwards.
Although United players controlled possession of the ball, when their attacks failed, their midfield was empty and no one anticipated it. Nottingham played well but if United's opponents were a stronger team, they might have difficulty scoring.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on December 07, 2024, 12:46:52 PM

The match has been going on for 10 minutes but United have to be behind by 1 goal even though the match has only been going on for 2 minutes. Nottingham managed to take the lead thanks to 1 goal made by Nikola Milenkovic.
Not a good start to the match for United, but the match is still quite long and they are currently dominating the match with ball possession. If Nottingham manages to beat United this time, then they will get a pretty good position in the standings.

Nottingham Forest football team played well in last match and that match was exciting and that team did 3 goals in this match . I am very impressed by the performance of Nottingham Forest team players. Milenković did goal at 2 minutes of the match and after we saw goal from Manchester United team and that team players tried to do goal at 18 minutes and they became successful to do goal at 18 minutes.
Gibbs-White did goal at 47 minutes of the match and after we saw one more goal from Manchester United team player and he did goal at 61 minutes of the match. The possession percentage of Manchester United team was excellent and that was 72 percent but that team could not win this match.

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Quote from: X-ray on December 08, 2024, 08:39:35 AM

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Amorim has to deal with the squad with full of inept players. No doubt he's fucking struggle to help them climbing up back again. Too many average players in this squad, and they have none who can at least to carry the club alone.

Amorim felt that his team was incompetent because they were lazy to fight and lacked motivation to achieve victory, this situation made it difficult for him to build a solid squad because there was no chemistry with the players. Amorim must be able to form a starting XI that has a mission to always achieve victory, he must utilize the January transfer market to bring in several players who are considered able to help the team out of the slump. He still has time to make Manchester United one of the teams that can compete in the top six, but he needs support from the team management.

It's very clear Amorim hinted his club was not running enough like what he expected. He has too many lazy players in his squad. His attackers were so damn lazy help in defending. Meanwhile his defenders are also too often made human errors. This is why i think he wanted players who can perform like an engine. Cheesy

It's obvious he's not satisfied with his current squad. Cheesy

He's indirectly telling the board that the task they're giving him can't be carried out successfully with this current squad and it you observe you'll see that it’s not about the formation or his strategy but some Manchester United players are not up to his standards and needs to leave to suitable players to come in, Amorin's strategy needs players that are mostly fit through the season and are capable of working hard and running to and fro the pitch without getting exhausted for the full 90 mins but this current squad is filled with lots of lazy players that barely mark their opponents properly and gives out the ball easily, which would not work. Well it’s good they've improved in goal scoring unlike before but i think the board new to change their stands concerning the January transfer window, Amorin needs new players he can trust, in some strategic areas to be able to finish in the top 4 this season.

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Quote from: mamesso on December 08, 2024, 08:12:50 AM

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Quote from: mamesso on December 08, 2024, 12:38:16 AM

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Amorim has to deal with the squad with full of inept players. No doubt he's fucking struggle to help them climbing up back again. Too many average players in this squad, and they have none who can at least to carry the club alone.

Amorim felt that his team was incompetent because they were lazy to fight and lacked motivation to achieve victory, this situation made it difficult for him to build a solid squad because there was no chemistry with the players. Amorim must be able to form a starting XI that has a mission to always achieve victory, he must utilize the January transfer market to bring in several players who are considered able to help the team out of the slump. He still has time to make Manchester United one of the teams that can compete in the top six, but he needs support from the team management.

It's very clear Amorim hinted his club was not running enough like what he expected. He has too many lazy players in his squad. His attackers were so damn lazy help in defending. Meanwhile his defenders are also too often made human errors. This is why i think he wanted players who can perform like an engine. Cheesy

It's obvious he's not satisfied with his current squad. Cheesy

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Quote from: X-ray on December 08, 2024, 06:02:06 AM

Quote from: mamesso on December 08, 2024, 12:38:16 AM

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Amorim has to deal with the squad with full of inept players. No doubt he's fucking struggle to help them climbing up back again. Too many average players in this squad, and they have none who can at least to carry the club alone.

Amorim felt that his team was incompetent because they were lazy to fight and lacked motivation to achieve victory, this situation made it difficult for him to build a solid squad because there was no chemistry with the players. Amorim must be able to form a starting XI that has a mission to always achieve victory, he must utilize the January transfer market to bring in several players who are considered able to help the team out of the slump. He still has time to make Manchester United one of the teams that can compete in the top six, but he needs support from the team management.

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Quote from: hyudien on December 07, 2024, 07:15:58 AM

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Have you forgotten that Manchester City are entangled in many charges regarding their budget? they could recruit players but this might add to the problems for them who are struggling to resolve the case I think Man City are keeping a low profile in recruiting players they also still have the best players at the moment we just have to wait for Man City's revival and trust everything to Pep Guardiola.

Yes Manchester City are in some trouble but at the same time they always get away with it. I don't want to think negatively but my question is is there someone playing behind the scenes? But I hope that is a baseless question and it doesn't happen. I don't know what moves they will make in the transfer market, will they recruit a lot of players or will they stick with what they have now. But when you look at Guardiola, I think he is one of the managers who is quite clever in bringing in players and maybe he will do that in this transfer window.

Manchester City have never looked as desperate as they seem this season. Manchester City are regularly losing against the team against which it could be said that Manchester City will get full points. A performance like this from Manchester City is undoubtedly a huge disappointment. But a club and club management would never want them to perform poorly on a regular basis and even if they have performed poorly unintentionally, they will still try to find ways to get them to perform well again. Manchester City is doing the same but they are not performing well the only reason is that Manchester City currently does not have the players who can give their best performance to win the team.

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Quote from: mamesso on December 08, 2024, 12:38:16 AM

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Amorim records a second loss as Manchester United manager. Despite this, I still believe Ruben Amorim has what it takes to be able to succeed at the club and even perform more better than Erik ten Hag. With the positive impact he has brought to Manchester United so far, I believe the process of rebuilding a project takes time. We have seen what he is capable of and I am sure he can be able to replicate his success in Sporting at Manchester United in due time.

Man United again failed to achieve a positive result after losing to Arsenal in the previous game. It is very painful to see their situation where they are still unable to get out of the slump even though they are being handled by a new coach. Now 16 points off the pace and 10 clear of the relegation zone, dropping six points in two successive games means United are closer to the drop zone than they are to the Premier League title. It's a tough job for Amorim.

Amorim has to deal with the squad with full of inept players. No doubt he's fucking struggle to help them climbing up back again. Too many average players in this squad, and they have none who can at least to carry the club alone.

I think mostly Manchester United players are coming to the end of their cycle. They have to bring a lot of fresh names into the squad. I don't even see meaningful contribution by the current squad. Yeah, they scored, but lost, and nothing different at all.

I don't see the error with Amorim's system, but he implemented it in the wrong players.

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One of the first games today is Fulham - Arsenal. There are only 5 points between these teams by the way. Fulham aren't bad at all I mean. They are quite strong in home games as well with 4 wins in 7 games. However I can't say they have a good home record against Arsenal in general. Arsenal have beaten them most of the time and probably this will be another time to see it happening.

I can't wait to watch more of their amazing corner organizations. Their set pieces coach really deserves respect. Because these tactics make a big difference for Arsenal while they have very effective players on aerial balls.

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