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Quote from: mamesso on January 11, 2025, 08:27:44 AM

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Quote from: samuraijin on January 10, 2025, 09:07:17 PM

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This is my team Chelsea
Can we stay consistent? I doubt.
But when we finally get to find the rhythm for consistency then people will see why we are among the nest in England. If Enzo Maresca can not find a way to make us more consistent, with time he will be axed just like every other good coaches who has managed the team.
Against Bournemouth we may get a win if we can play well and take our chances and avoiding defensive lapses which has been a main issue for us.

Previously, Chelsea managed to achieve 5 consecutive wins in the EPL, but the draw vs Everton was the beginning of the decline in their performance, after that they never achieved a win in 4 consecutive matches (2D and 2L). Losing points in those four games is a big loss for them, now it is increasingly difficult to compete with Liverpool in the hunt for the championship title. Enzo Maresca must find a way for his team to be consistent in every game, he must return Chelsea to their best form so they don't lose their position in the top four.

The top four race is not an easy one, before these past matches we were beginning to be considered among the league contenders but now see us now.
Now that the January transfer window is opened many teams are going to strengthen their squad, while some may also bounce back notably Manchester City and thus will even make top 4 much more difficult. Chelsea needs more consistency now than the first part of this season to be honest.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 11, 2025, 12:05:03 PM

FA Cup games are ongoing. What do you think about the biggest game of the round, Arsenal - Manchester United? Huh

It is going to be underway tomorrow. The game is at Emirates. Arsenal are of course the obvious favourite here. However we shouldn't miss an important detail here also. Manchester United have been quite successful in the FA Cup lately. They are the last champions and they reached the final in the year before that one too. In these years, they weren't doing good in the PL. They are again struggling in the league now. I think Amorim will do his best for the players to focus on the FA Cup. We can see a surprising result IMO.

I am a Manchester United supporter, I have been watching the FA Cup matches since yesterday till today. I have watched the big clubs like Chelsea Liverpool Manchester City play smaller clubs, but as it is the time of Manchester United, they have to face big Arsenal. I don't know why they are so unlucky because it will be a bit difficult for Manchester United to beat the gunners. Although, it is an FA cup but it rather the vibe will be like that of an EPL star match.

As you said, Manchester United has a good history in FA cup, they'll capitalize on that and coupled with their excellent performance against Liverpool, so it will be a difficult match for Arsenal.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 11, 2025, 12:05:03 PM

FA Cup games are ongoing. What do you think about the biggest game of the round, Arsenal - Manchester United? Huh

It is going to be underway tomorrow. The game is at Emirates. Arsenal are of course the obvious favourite here. However we shouldn't miss an important detail here also. Manchester United have been quite successful in the FA Cup lately. They are the last champions and they reached the final in the year before that one too. In these years, they weren't doing good in the PL. They are again struggling in the league now. I think Amorim will do his best for the players to focus on the FA Cup. We can see a surprising result IMO.

Among the many FA matches played this week, of course the Arsenal vs manchester united match is a bigmatch match which is the only match that brings together two EPL teams in the FA round 3, in the last two matches, arsenal failed to get full points, including when losing to newcastle at emirates, while manchester united, their position is still at the bottom standing and it is difficult to catch up with the position to play in the European zone next season, so amorim should emulate what ten hag did last season by winning the FA as a alternative way to play in the UEL, seeing the current conditions and mentality of the two teams, I think the match will be difficult for we predictions, although arsenal play at the emirates, but it does not guarantee for their can beat manchester united in the match later, especially if amorim squad plays like against liverpool previously.

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FA Cup games are ongoing. What do you think about the biggest game of the round, Arsenal - Manchester United? Huh

It is going to be underway tomorrow. The game is at Emirates. Arsenal are of course the obvious favourite here. However we shouldn't miss an important detail here also. Manchester United have been quite successful in the FA Cup lately. They are the last champions and they reached the final in the year before that one too. In these years, they weren't doing good in the PL. They are again struggling in the league now. I think Amorim will do his best for the players to focus on the FA Cup. We can see a surprising result IMO.

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Quote from: ingiltere on January 09, 2025, 02:25:19 PM

After failing to win their last 5 games, Everton have parted ways with Sean Dyche. Everton, who have only 3 wins in the league this season and are just above the relegation zone, have temporarily brought in U18 coach Leighton Baines. There are many good managers available. Let's see who will be their choice. Everton need to be much higher up the table. I don't think they will be relegated but it's too stressful to even feel the danger.

It is not always funny for Everton very season now, over some few seasons back Everton are always struggle at the end if very season not to relegation and really it is very bad experience that very season recently, I believe they need to change the coach and found a better manager which can help to manage the team well, if not if they keep that their position on the table always one season they will see the team relegated. As for now I just which them get a better coach if not it may not be funny form them if they enter that relegation zone to the ending of the season.

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Quote from: Adiljutt156 on January 11, 2025, 09:13:43 AM

Quote from: ingiltere on January 09, 2025, 02:25:19 PM

After failing to win their last 5 games, Everton have parted ways with Sean Dyche. Everton, who have only 3 wins in the league this season and are just above the relegation zone, have temporarily brought in U18 coach Leighton Baines. There are many good managers available. Let's see who will be their choice. Everton need to be much higher up the table. I don't think they will be relegated but it's too stressful to even feel the danger.

Everton football team won the match against Peterborough United football team . That was totally one sided match because Everton team players did 2 goals in this match and Peterborough United team players did no goal in this match. Beto was the player who gave his team confidence because he did goal at 42 minutes of the match. I expected that Peterborough United players try to resist in this match and they tried to resist but they could not stop Everton team by doing 2nd goal in this match and Everton team players did 2nd goal at 98 minutes of the match. And he did this goal at penalty .Peterborough United team need improvement in their defense and also in the attacking system.

I saw that. It's an easy game for Everton. I were not doubting them to win it. They fought against a team with far below quality than them. It's easy for them to win it. The difference in the quality owned by both of clubs is the reason here.

They made 5 goal attempts, and only 1 successfully converted into the goal. They also get additional goal came from penalty. Not good or bad performance from Everon.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on January 11, 2025, 09:13:31 AM

No Premier League games this weekend and we'll have to wait till Tue for another round. To me, the most interesting game of the matchday 21 is Nottm Forest Vs Liverpool.
The odds for that game are:

Nottm Forest: x4.50
Draw: x4.00
Liverpool: x1.70

This looks about right, but maybe Nottm Forest are underestimated a bit. They are on 6 wins streak, while Liverpool lost the 1 leg semi-final against Tottenham and split points at home with troubled Man United.
What's a bit strange is that both teams tend to perform slightly better in away games than at home (the difference is negligible though).

This is a very important match for both Liverpool and Nottingham Forest because a win will change the gap between them, and it could have a big impact at the end of the season. It is reasonable that Liverpool is more favored than Forest because they have a squad with more famous players in it, and their points are indeed higher. But that doesn't mean Liverpool will be able to win just like that because Nottingham Forest is really strong this season and they also have the advantage of playing at home.

If Liverpool still plays like they did against Man United and Tottenham, I think Nottingham Forest will have a chance to steal points from them.

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Quote from: ingiltere on January 09, 2025, 02:25:19 PM

After failing to win their last 5 games, Everton have parted ways with Sean Dyche. Everton, who have only 3 wins in the league this season and are just above the relegation zone, have temporarily brought in U18 coach Leighton Baines. There are many good managers available. Let's see who will be their choice. Everton need to be much higher up the table. I don't think they will be relegated but it's too stressful to even feel the danger.

Everton football team won the match against Peterborough United football team . That was totally one sided match because Everton team players did 2 goals in this match and Peterborough United team players did no goal in this match. Beto was the player who gave his team confidence because he did goal at 42 minutes of the match. I expected that Peterborough United players try to resist in this match and they tried to resist but they could not stop Everton team by doing 2nd goal in this match and Everton team players did 2nd goal at 98 minutes of the match. And he did this goal at penalty .Peterborough United team need improvement in their defense and also in the attacking system.

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No Premier League games this weekend and we'll have to wait till Tue for another round. To me, the most interesting game of the matchday 21 is Nottm Forest Vs Liverpool.
The odds for that game are:

Nottm Forest: x4.50
Draw: x4.00
Liverpool: x1.70

This looks about right, but maybe Nottm Forest are underestimated a bit. They are on 6 wins streak, while Liverpool lost the 1 leg semi-final against Tottenham and split points at home with troubled Man United.
What's a bit strange is that both teams tend to perform slightly better in away games than at home (the difference is negligible though).

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Quote from: Amphenomenon on January 11, 2025, 12:52:45 AM

Quote from: samuraijin on January 10, 2025, 09:07:17 PM

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This is my team Chelsea
Can we stay consistent? I doubt.
But when we finally get to find the rhythm for consistency then people will see why we are among the nest in England. If Enzo Maresca can not find a way to make us more consistent, with time he will be axed just like every other good coaches who has managed the team.
Against Bournemouth we may get a win if we can play well and take our chances and avoiding defensive lapses which has been a main issue for us.

Previously, Chelsea managed to achieve 5 consecutive wins in the EPL, but the draw vs Everton was the beginning of the decline in their performance, after that they never achieved a win in 4 consecutive matches (2D and 2L). Losing points in those four games is a big loss for them, now it is increasingly difficult to compete with Liverpool in the hunt for the championship title. Enzo Maresca must find a way for his team to be consistent in every game, he must return Chelsea to their best form so they don't lose their position in the top four.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on January 10, 2025, 01:42:10 AM

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I don't understand why West Ham appointed a manager who has a bad record in previous EPL coaching (when he was Brighton and Chelsea manager) West Ham should have appointed a manager who has a good record to restore their performance if they appointed a manager who is not much different why change managers when currently West Ham is really in a worse condition than last season and I doubt Graham Potter can handle a club that is in a slump.

He's good at Brighton, but flop in Chelsea. He has good stats when managing medium tier club, and why are you doubting it? He has also experience in the Premier League. I think it's reasonable to believe Potter will deliver for Westham.

Are you thinking Westham to repeat the same mistake to gamble with the coach with no PL experience? They have realized they have to found someone who can fit them well, and Potter is the answer.

How can you say Graham Potter is good at Brighton? when you see how he was as Brighton manager during the 2019-2022 season you will not say he is good at Brighton because the club still looks like an ordinary club and does not look impressive in his first 2 seasons Brighton finished in poor rankings and in his last season Brighton only managed to finish in the top 10, if West Ham wants a big change at least they should recruit a good manager if he appoints a manager who can only show average performance there is nothing to be proud of.

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Quote from: junder on January 11, 2025, 01:41:56 AM

Lately, this Manchester City midfielder has often been hit by injuries which may have reduced his performance so that it also affects the performance of his current squad. In addition, reportedly his contract in the City squad is already visible, and his answer when asked about this problem was quite surprising because he himself did not care about it, only that he focused on the field and his matches to be better than before.

In addition, Manchester City is reportedly starting to look for a successor or replacement for the role of their midfielder, and one of the players they are targeting is Florian Wirtz from Bayer Leverkusen, whether this will be better or not but what is certain is that their squad must be able to be better and recover from their slump by restoring their trust in their fans.

The recent injuries De Bruyne suffered from have really affected him deeply. He can't perform the same like in the old days. He just started to be able to play for 90 minutes as well. I feel like this is really his last season at Manchester City. Sad

Indeed, Guardiola has already started looking for his alternative. He wants to go big with the signing too of course. Wirtz and Musiala are currently the most rumoured players. Both of the players are very talented youngsters.

Managing to sign one of them won't be easy though but it would be a huge addition to the squad. Real Madrid will probably be in for Wirtz. For Musiala, I have heard he is close to extending his contract with Bayern Munich. This situation can make things really difficult for Guardiola.

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Quote from: samuraijin on January 10, 2025, 09:07:17 PM

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 10, 2025, 12:56:23 PM

As for Chelsea... I'm really disappointed with them lately. Sad

They couldn't win for 4 weeks straight. What's happening? I hope to see a win against Bournemouth in their next game. I want to see them in the Champions League finally.

Actually, a draw is enough for Chelsea to avoid defeat, this is a matter of time, whenever it can change all the games, no one is disappointed because so far it has been much more than enough for Chelsea to be in 4th position, it is not easy, because we know that in the last few years they have always had difficulty being in the middle of the standings which is far from the European Cup Zone, whatever the results Chelsea get, it is a good result for Chelsea's development this season.

Actually if someone will say Chelsea is terribly bad now I wonder how loud they would be two seasons ago, though I understand it was because of how bad their last four matches was that made LuckyGuyI say that and he is right for that because four match is a lot for a team not to win any, but if they loss such four matches again there would be no means for them on this upcoming champions League, however FA Cup Round 3 has covered all today's matches and Chelsea will start with Morecambe but Chelsea will win because Morecambe is coming from a low division league.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 10, 2025, 12:56:23 PM

There are still 4 more days for Week 21 games to begin. The interval for the next games has been quite long because of EFL Cup and FA Cup games meanwhile also.

I see Manchester City having an away game vs Brentford. After winning 2 games in a row Guardiola's club look stronger. I liked their effort in the last one too. I guess I will seriously think of adding their win into my parlay after a while. Grin

As for Chelsea... I'm really disappointed with them lately. Sad

They couldn't win for 4 weeks straight. What's happening? I hope to see a win against Bournemouth in their next game. I want to see them in the Champions League finally.

Yes, definitely it's such a long break given to the EFL Cup and FA Cup games played in between. Although the match will be tough I don't think Brentford will be able to cause an upset against Manchester City given to the fact that Manchester City.

I’m not disappointed about Chelsea's performance so far in the EPL, I am even surprised to see them among teams in the top half of the table. Even though they might have experienced some decline in performance of late, I think Chelsea will be able to come out with all three points regardless at home.

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Quote from: Litzki1990 on January 10, 2025, 10:06:33 PM

De Bruyne was once Manchester City's most reliable attacking midfielder and contributed well to the entire team's performance when he was caught. However, his performance has been adversely affected due to the fact that he has been out of the field due to injury for a long time and has been injured again after being injury-free. Apart from injuries, the big problem for him now is his age, as he has advanced in age, we don't see the same pace from him as we used to. If De Bruyne could have performed like before, Manchester City's situation would certainly not be so bad. De Bruyne was excellent in midfield alone when caught and he created balls to attack but we don't see that kind of attack from him now. Because of his performance, we can say that his career in Europe will end soon.

Lately, this Manchester City midfielder has often been hit by injuries which may have reduced his performance so that it also affects the performance of his current squad. In addition, reportedly his contract in the City squad is already visible, and his answer when asked about this problem was quite surprising because he himself did not care about it, only that he focused on the field and his matches to be better than before.

In addition, Manchester City is reportedly starting to look for a successor or replacement for the role of their midfielder, and one of the players they are targeting is Florian Wirtz from Bayer Leverkusen, whether this will be better or not but what is certain is that their squad must be able to be better and recover from their slump by restoring their trust in their fans.

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Quote from: samuraijin on January 10, 2025, 09:07:17 PM

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 10, 2025, 12:56:23 PM

As for Chelsea... I'm really disappointed with them lately. Sad

They couldn't win for 4 weeks straight. What's happening? I hope to see a win against Bournemouth in their next game. I want to see them in the Champions League finally.

Actually, a draw is enough for Chelsea to avoid defeat, this is a matter of time, whenever it can change all the games, no one is disappointed because so far it has been much more than enough for Chelsea to be in 4th position, it is not easy, because we know that in the last few years they have always had difficulty being in the middle of the standings which is far from the European Cup Zone, whatever the results Chelsea get, it is a good result for Chelsea's development this season.

This is my team Chelsea
Can we stay consistent? I doubt.
But when we finally get to find the rhythm for consistency then people will see why we are among the nest in England. If Enzo Maresca can not find a way to make us more consistent, with time he will be axed just like every other good coaches who has managed the team.
Against Bournemouth we may get a win if we can play well and take our chances and avoiding defensive lapses which has been a main issue for us.

Expect Enzo Maresca becomes serious about getting better defence, we will continue to suffer in an ironic way of defensive errors, since Preseason I have been speaking of our defence being bad and since Fofana is injured it will even become more difficult.

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Quote from: samuraijin on January 10, 2025, 09:07:17 PM

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 10, 2025, 12:56:23 PM

As for Chelsea... I'm really disappointed with them lately. Sad

They couldn't win for 4 weeks straight. What's happening? I hope to see a win against Bournemouth in their next game. I want to see them in the Champions League finally.

Actually, a draw is enough for Chelsea to avoid defeat, this is a matter of time, whenever it can change all the games, no one is disappointed because so far it has been much more than enough for Chelsea to be in 4th position, it is not easy, because we know that in the last few years they have always had difficulty being in the middle of the standings which is far from the European Cup Zone, whatever the results Chelsea get, it is a good result for Chelsea's development this season.

It is hard to believe that in the last 4 games they have struggled against mediocre teams after having a great week with consecutive wins. Honestly this result is better than last season. With Enzo Maresca Chelsea has managed to become one of the teams in the top ranks of the EPL. Last season they got 11 defeats but this season they have only got 4 defeats after the first half of the season. As a fan with their current performance of course we expect them to make it into the Champions League zone next season. As I remember they have not played in the UCL for 2 seasons. This season is an opportunity for them to compete again in the most prestigious league in Europe.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on January 10, 2025, 01:42:10 AM

Quote from: tusandii on January 09, 2025, 11:50:02 PM

I don't understand why West Ham appointed a manager who has a bad record in previous EPL coaching (when he was Brighton and Chelsea manager) West Ham should have appointed a manager who has a good record to restore their performance if they appointed a manager who is not much different why change managers when currently West Ham is really in a worse condition than last season and I doubt Graham Potter can handle a club that is in a slump.

He's good at Brighton, but flop in Chelsea. He has good stats when managing medium tier club, and why are you doubting it? He has also experience in the Premier League. I think it's reasonable to believe Potter will deliver for Westham.

Are you thinking Westham to repeat the same mistake to gamble with the coach with no PL experience? They have realized they have to found someone who can fit them well, and Potter is the answer.

I just checked in case if I remembered it wrong, he averaged 1.28 points at Brighton. That is not good at all, I am not saying he should have done 2.50 or something, it's Brighton, they were worse than even right now, so it's normal to have bad record, but at least 1.50+ is required to say it would have been good, it's really a bad period for Brighton as well and dude was sacked, why would they fire a manager who was good.

And obviously he was terrible as Chelsea manager as well, and you may ask if he was not good at Brighton, then why would Chelsea get him? Well, simply because of exact same reason why West Ham are getting him now, we have no idea. In the end, managers are limited, they are not as common as players, you have at least 11 players, with bunch of subs, whereas you have just one manager, so teams just want to hire managers who already have experience at good levels.

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Quote from: samuraijin on January 10, 2025, 09:07:17 PM

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 10, 2025, 12:56:23 PM

As for Chelsea... I'm really disappointed with them lately. Sad

They couldn't win for 4 weeks straight. What's happening? I hope to see a win against Bournemouth in their next game. I want to see them in the Champions League finally.

Actually, a draw is enough for Chelsea to avoid defeat, this is a matter of time, whenever it can change all the games, no one is disappointed because so far it has been much more than enough for Chelsea to be in 4th position, it is not easy, because we know that in the last few years they have always had difficulty being in the middle of the standings which is far from the European Cup Zone, whatever the results Chelsea get, it is a good result for Chelsea's development this season.

Draw or Lose. It's all matters.

Chelsea has to qualify for the UCL, and winning any games is a must to ensure they can keep their UCL spot. Really disappointed how they earned only 2 points from 4 games. That's unbelievabel how they went down so hard like this.

Things are worsening after Maresca once again doing major rotation to his squad. They will no longer placed at the 4 if they still play like shite.

If they keep get another bad result, it'll destroy their mentality, which is impacting their performance in long run.

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Yes you are right. Without Kevin de Bruyne in the squad, Manchester City's performance has deteriorated. His absence impacts the team's creativity and fluidity in midfield as he is pivotal in orchestrating attacks and providing crucial passes. Without Kevin de Bryune, there is an obvious difference in Manchester City’s attack.

De Bruyne was injured for a long time and he newly started to play for long amount of time in the Premier League. But he is getting old and it is normal to see his performance getting worse in time. Maybe you can give Salah as an example against it this season. However not every big player at his age is showing that big performance in those times as well. De Bruyne is going to leave Manchester City this summer if he doesn't get a contract extension soon. I think his next team might be in Saudi Arabia as they would be eager to bring a star like him.

De Bruyne was once Manchester City's most reliable attacking midfielder and contributed well to the entire team's performance when he was caught. However, his performance has been adversely affected due to the fact that he has been out of the field due to injury for a long time and has been injured again after being injury-free. Apart from injuries, the big problem for him now is his age, as he has advanced in age, we don't see the same pace from him as we used to. If De Bruyne could have performed like before, Manchester City's situation would certainly not be so bad. De Bruyne was excellent in midfield alone when caught and he created balls to attack but we don't see that kind of attack from him now. Because of his performance, we can say that his career in Europe will end soon.

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