Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 41. (Read 58342 times)

I also disagree if it is said that Liverpool is behind Arsenal because, basically, Liverpool is still a better team than Arsenal. I personally do not care about their position in the  standings but I think it is clear that Arsenal is still not strong enough in the competition for the title. Indeed,in the last two seasons Arsenal has become a better team for its competition in the title, but in reality Manchester City's dominance is still very high. Thus,  it would be more appropriate to say that Arsenal is behind Manchester City and Liverpool, because in reality Arsenal often fails to maintain good and consistent performance, and that is also  what makes Arsenal still fail in the trophy race from season to season lately.

That's right. This is Arsenal's weakness this season, and it must also be admitted that this is what differentiates Arsenal and Man City. If Man City has many players who can be substitutes if there are several players who are injured or whose performance declines. While Arsenal has very few who can be used as substitute players.

For example, when Odegaard is injured, he can be replaced by Bukayo Saka because he is also quite good as a playmaker and captain, but when both players are injured, no one can fill the void, and that was evident in yesterday's match, plus the player who got a red card. No wonder Arsenal lost against Bournemouth, I have to be honest and say that I lost the bet on this match and it hurts a lot. On the other hand, what Arsenal fears most is when Kai or Martinelli gets injured if that happens later, I doubt Arsenal can compete with Man City and Liverpool this season. Arteta's next test is against Liverpool, we know Liverpool are currently on fire, most likely Arsenal will lose points again next week.

Arsenal performance this season does look not inconsistent, so we are starting to doubt if  they can repeat what they did last season, last season we saw how Arsenal looked like they had no difficulty at all in competing in the Premier League due to the lack of their injured players, but now one by one their players have to enter the treatment room due to the current tight schedule,  Next week Arsenal will face Liverpool but when they need a performance and also a qualified squad to face Liverpool, precisely at this time Calafiori must receive treatment due to injury in  UCL match yesterday, although indeed Arsenal has not confirmed how severe he is injured but if you see him replaced in the match against Shaktar Donetsk, of course it is likely that he will miss the match against Liverpool later.

Liverpool have great potential to remain at the top of the table this season, considering that so far they have been quite consistent and have even performed better even though they have only signed one player this season, I think they have a strong squad with talented players like Nunez, Mac Allister, and Diaz, but it is too early to say they can stay consistent until end season, the league journey is still very long and what happened to them last season also has the potential to happen again if they are hit by players injuries , the fierce and competitive competition requires a fairly good squad depth and I think just recruiting Cessa is certainly still not enough for Liverpool at the moment, so far they have led the Premier League,  But how consistent they are in maintaining their position at the top of the standings, of course, we don't know yet.

In my opinion, what is meant by Liverpool is that they must maintain their position in the standings by consistently maintaining a win in every match so that they cannot be replaced by Manchester City and Arsenal who are in 2nd and 3rd place. Liverpool have proven that starting from the start of the season they have played very well, whereas from Arsenal's question is behind Manchester City and Arsenal, maybe it's at the end of the season, there are still many things we need to discuss together, forget this, there are still more fun things to do.

Why do you think Liverpool is behind Manchester City and Arsenal. You meantion Liverpool's subs as really weak yet the club still got the likes of Nunez, Mac Allister, Diaz among others in its substitutes some of which may not perform like the first level team but will be able to turn up and represent when the need always arises. What's confusing about your statement is that Liverpool is behind Manchester City and Arsenal when yet Liverpool are the leading club in the table standing right now.

I think a lot has happened in the early part of the season, but it remains to be seen who is better.  If you look at Liverpool record they have lost only 1 match in the first 10 matches. Liverpool will surely go to the end of it. Arsenal and Manchester these two teams cannot bring Liverpool down. In the next few matches of Liverpool Liverpool will win every match in which teams like RB Leipzig Arsenal Brighton will lose.

You are not alone on this, majority of the football lovers especially English Premier League fans had thought that Arne Slot will at least suffer for this first season before he will understand the dynamics of English football and the synchronize with the Liverpool footballers. But surprising to everyone he immediately hit the ground running and started getting outstanding results. I personally ruled Liverpool chances of contesting for the English Premier League title out, but right before us the coach and the players have proved me wrong. This has proven that pre-season alone is good enough and okay for every good coach to understand a team. I can clearly say and believe that Liverpool is a major contender of the EPL title.

In fact, this season, Arsenal often perform inconsistently, even their performance is not as optimal as before. The level of sharpness of their front line seems to have decreased slightly. Even look at the last few matches. For some reason Arsenal players this season often get red cards.

Oh yes, even in the UCL, this time they did not perform optimally. Indeed, they won against FC Shakhtar Donetsk, they got a full 3 points and that was the main point. but they did not score at all, only OG from the opponent. Arsenal dominated, many attempts at shots, but none of them went into the goal

And to make matters worse, Calafiori is injured, and it's not good. Possible knee injury, what a bad news for Arsenal.

Source: Arsenal staff already assessing Riccardo Calafiori after being subbed off with possible knee injury.

I would not call what happened in that game an accident because arsenal are to overconfident and that is seriously affecting them and that is one of the reasons they lost thay game. Have had pity on arsenal because they have been struggling seriously, and they have been wanting to win the premier league title but they have been unable to win that trophy. And looks like the only club that have a chance is Liverpool because arsenal is not making a good choice and very soon we Manchester City will take over again and people are finding it hard to predict who is going to win the title this period. And now that kelvin is injured our performance have dropped, so the moment the KDB comes back things will definitely change the game because even haaland needs KDB, and even Foden is not that excellent this season. Arteta is trying to test out a new method and the defensive game is not favoring him at all.

Being better than Arsenal or City, or being worse, none of that is something we can calculate right at the moment because we are in October right now and there are months of football left until they have any chance to do anything. They are not looking bad, that part is true and they look like they are playing a great football at the moment.

But, we do not know what they are going to do in the longer term, maybe after middle of the season they will start to play terribly, who knows?

There were plenty of coaches famously who start the season great because they push the players to their limits, so their players would be great at the start of the season but then got injured due to high fatigue as well. Bielsa is one of the most known versions of this, he would run his players to ground, which would make the team play better than anyone for 10 to 15 games and even have a big gap at the lead, but then players would get injured quite frequently as a result.

In the match between Liverpool and Chelsea Chelsea could only score 1 goal, if they had scored another goal, the match would have been tied. But Liverpool didn't let that happen and won the match by 1 goal. Your thinking was wrong, how could you even think that Liverpool would lose.  I believe that Chelsea is a better team but they are not good enough to beat Liverpool. They may lose if other teams that are a few positions below them get stronger.  But mostly your point will be seen Liverpool and Manchester City. Liverpool and Arsenal face off in the same week in which we should most likely expect a Liverpool win.

Basically I personally have confidence for Nottingham to win in this match, but because I also still consider that there is still a chance for Crystal Palace to at least hold Nottingham's draw in this match. Because after all, basically the matches between Crystal Palace and Nottingham also quite often end in a draw and for that reason, I decided not to bet on Nottingham to win and only chose the under 2.5 option but that was also enough  to make me win the bet in this match.

But indeed, in fact this season is Nottingham's third season playing in the Premier League, after the previous two seasons Nottingham finished so close to the relegation zone. But Nottingham had a bad thing last season, because Nottingham also got a four-point deduction, and that case really made Nottingham almost relegated. But anyway, in this season Nottingham managed to start the season better than the previous two seasons, but about Crystal Palace it is really unfortunate to get bad results  so far this season.

Nottingham victory with the only goal created by Wood has shown their toughness and consistency at the moment, although on paper their is superior from Crystal Palace, the two teams actually played quite evenly in the match but indeed Nottingham game and attack look more effective than Crystal Palace, I think previously, today match will be an easy match for Nottingham,  but it turns out that both teams actually play very competitive and have almost 50/50 possession, even the total shots they made were the same (20), with shots on target that were not much different, even though in the first half the match was too monotonous, but the intensity of the game in the second half made the match more exciting In my opinion, the victory over Crystal Palace can be a positive momentum for Nottingham to continue to be able to compete in the middle of the Premier League this season.

Manchester City is not the favorite to win the league title this season because their current performance is not good enough to make someone believe that they can win the league, they find it difficult to defeat Wolves easily, if not for the stone that gives them the last minute goal and get them three points they will end up ending the game draw, Manchester City need to fix some things in the team if not Liverpool is still going to play very well against Arsenal and get another three-point in the next game.

And about the Liverpool and Chelsea game, if anyone says that Chelsea didn't play well in the game that means that the person did not watch the game, Chelsea played well against Liverpool, no matter how a game is one team must win and that is what happened to Chelsea and Liverpool game, Chelsea plays well is just that Chelsea attacking player's that start the match didn't know how to score goal, a player like Sancho did not suppose to start the match, Netro should start the match and Sancho should come in at the second half of the match, if we look at the game, when Netro enters the game Chelsea create chances more than when Sancho is in the game.

WHO IS THE MOST IMPORTANT TO KEEP AT LIVERPOOL

Liverpool has been on a really impressive form under Arne Slot this season, it’s not even looking like he’s a new coach the team just clicked right from the first game Spot On.
Though he inherited a good squad but not all coaches get to make good use of it.

This summer brings Worry as three of his top players in Salah, Trent and Van Dijk’s contract will expire. Will they renew or be sold as no deals has been discussed ? As the summer is fast approaching.

The Best thing for Liverpool will be to renew all three but in a case where it’s not possible or doesn’t happen

If you were to consider who to keep who will it be? Whose absence will affect the team more?

I’ll agree with Danny Murphy who said “Van Dijk is the most important and he makes everyone better”. He improves everyone around him and shows great leadership on and off the pitch.
Obviously Mo Salah is great asset, but Liverpool scores without him but in the long run his absence if not filled will be a blow.
Trent is also a huge asset to Liverpool, the creativity and crosses he brings to the team efforts will be greatly missed but the solidity of the defence is Van Dijk who has formed a strong partnership with Konate. He has a commander effect at the back line.

A team can score goals but if you’re not able to defend your goal, it’ll all be a waste. Look at Tottenham who keeps scoring but can’t defend.
Let’s remember Liverpool at the time of Suarez who formed a great partnership with Sturridge, they were scoring lots of goals with Suarez as top scorer and assists but the defense line was poor and it cost them the SEASON.

So Keeping Van Dijk is the Most important thing for Liverpool.
What do you think?

In the match of Nottm Forest vs Crystal Palace team today, Nottm Forest team won the match by scoring 1 goal. In the first half of the game, the performance of the players of both teams was really great, but after halftime, Nottm Forest team player C. Wood scored the 1st goal in 65 minutes. After that, two  None of the players in the team scored any goal for which the Nottingham Forest team won the match.

Since the league is a long marathon, such accidents can happen, but the real concern for Arsenal is not that they lost but instead is how poorly they played. I believe that Manchester City, the favorite for the championship in my opinion, would not have played as badly even if they were down to 9 men against Bournemouth. I still can't figure out why Arteta had the team play so defensively throughout the match, even though days have passed since the game. He should have been bolder.

When Klopp announced that he would end his tenure as Liverpool head coach, we still remember how he shouted Slot's name like a song. Klopp is indeed the best coach who has ever coached Liverpool and we believe in whoever will continue his work because the foundation that Klopp has built is very solid, making it easy for a new coach.

It is proven that Arne Slot this season is only carrying out what Klopp has formed even though Liverpool's current game has changed that is not so visible.
There are no players who look new like other teams. This gives the experience that Slot's trust in Klopp is very good or vice versa, Klopp's support for Slot always happens.
Arne Slot always looks cheerful with Liverpool players, both main players and players on the bench.

The shocking thing about Liverpool, they replaced Klopp with Slot and didn't lose any steam at all. Which is not what anyone expected, when people heard Klopp was retiring, they were fearing how they would have a bad season or two with new management and they would have to get used to new system as well. But looking at them this season, they look better than ever and that was not something anyone expected them to have at all.

We should definitely consider how this could be a trouble, and because of this I believe we are going to have some trouble coming along as well. What we need to achieve here right now is a title for Liverpool would mean a lot, because it would mean they are playing a Slotball that works a lot better than they expected.