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Quote from: Coyster on June 10, 2020, 05:37:03 PM

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So I agree with you @Brainboss, only city can compete with Liverpool for now, I cannot imagine an EPL season without city, if that can be one of the punishments they may get, I heard it could be points deduction, not a PL ban.

City is indeed a club that can compete fiercely to the LFC, but there is a possibility that clubs like Chelsea, AFC, or Man United will experience changes in the game and strategies that will allow them to return to good performance to compete in the next season.

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Quote from: AakZaki on June 10, 2020, 07:28:44 PM

For the time being the match will be held without spectators in anticipation of the spread of the corona virus which still has the potential to occur. It will take time for fans to return to the stadium to watch the match live.

According to Mirror report, former Arsenal legendary manager Arsene Wenger rates the Premier League as well as a defective league with the absence of spectators in the stadium. Because according to him the atmosphere of the match in the Premier League is one of the best in the world. The temporary absence of the audience will change that.

Stadiums could be filled with let's say 5-10% of its full capacity or even less with strict measures, spectators will be like 5 meters away of each others... It is a harass sure but it is possible. A paid rapid test could be done to them too before entering to the stadium...
I heard La Liga is discussing about letting spectators in. I believe EPL will not unless last round maybe.

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For the time being the match will be held without spectators in anticipation of the spread of the corona virus which still has the potential to occur. It will take time for fans to return to the stadium to watch the match live.

According to Mirror report, former Arsenal legendary manager Arsene Wenger rates the Premier League as well as a defective league with the absence of spectators in the stadium. Because according to him the atmosphere of the match in the Premier League is one of the best in the world. The temporary absence of the audience will change that.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on June 10, 2020, 08:08:48 AM

Most would be fine with that, except maybe City who still have an astronomically low chance of winning it Cheesy

. I don't think most people would have an issue with handing Liverpool the title now, but like you said it's the relegation that becomes the issue (and promotion from the Championship). It wouldn't be fair to relegate teams that can still get out of the zone nor deny the Championship teams promotion. Worst comes to worse they should just play with the extra teams in the league but I'm glad they've resolved to finishing the season so things like this don't need to happen.

And maybe their red neighbor, which don't need any reason to not let Liverpool win it Grin

Hey playing with extra teams doesnt sound bad actually, we will have extra weeks as well lol!

Quote from: BIT-BENDER on June 10, 2020, 01:38:50 PM

Am not a Liverpool supporter but if because of the pandemic the league ends even after this reopening I would expect the league to b handed to Liverpool not because of its been years since the lifted the title last but because of there sublime performances, but the league must be played out to the final day, the fans would want no stories just celebration after winning they win the league with the games completed

Yea they deserve it, Klopp deserves it. From 8th position on the 2015/16 table in his first season, and now being one of the best teams in the world.

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on June 10, 2020, 04:05:07 PM

Only Manchester City are capable of competing head to head with Liverpool for next season trophy and the competition would definitely become boring without them playing.

You are correct, imo the title will either be going to the Etihad or Anfield for a couple of seasons more, they are the strongest teams in the EPL at the moment. Chelsea and Arsenal are still rebuilding their teams, with new managers (Franky and Arteta) so I'd be giving them few more seasons to work on their teams to compete to take the title to either Stamford bridge or the Emirates; as for United and Spurs, they are not title contenders imo.

So I agree with you @Brainboss, only city can compete with Liverpool for now, I cannot imagine an EPL season without city, if that can be one of the punishments they may get, I heard it could be points deduction, not a PL ban.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on June 09, 2020, 02:09:47 AM

How does the transfer market work now? For example, if Chelsea manages to sign Werner, the transfer would happen after the end of the season, right?

Yeah, that's exactly how the transfer market works.

Quote from: cryptofrka on June 09, 2020, 02:09:47 AM

It would be a bit unfair if Werner (or any other new player) was allowed to play in the current campaign. Also, Leipzig is still fighting for the CL, I can't imagine letting him go before their season ends. But their season will end a lot earlier than in Premier league.

Yeah it will be a bit unfair, but also look at the money they will get in return,I also heard a news that the director of Leipzig denied that they haven't come to an agreement with Chelsea, I don't know if its a false news tho, let's just wait till the end of the season and see how far they go in the champions league,but to be honest I think werner joining Chelsea is a bad idea, for me Liverpool would have been the best choice, but I think he wants to be among the first line up, and Liverpool can't give him that because the front three have already established themselves,but he can get a first team shirt at Chelsea, so maybe that's why he picked Chelsea over Liverpool.

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Quote from: examplens on June 09, 2020, 02:09:14 PM

do any of you follow Manchester City ban case? what's going on there, is there anything new?
I mean, it can be important for PL and many things, not only a CL places on the table. If they are banned from European competition, I guess PL also must punish them, and there they are in transgression. Some more severe punishment could seriously disrupt them in the years to come, even if I don't like this club, I would like them to remain in full force in the coming period.

No disrespect to any club (my club Chelsea included) but judging from the way this current season has been going before the stop due to the pandemic. Only Manchester City are capable of competing head to head with Liverpool for next season trophy and the competition would definitely become boring without them playing. You could see how this season was just one sided which one of the major contributor to that happening is due to Manchester city not having a fit squad unlike their previous two seasons.

The two year ban is enough punishment and won't want more punished especially in the premier league. I want to enjoy next season like that of 2018/2019 season and not rewatch another boring one sided season.

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Quote from: jayce on June 09, 2020, 01:52:06 PM

I think most PL teams wouldn't mind to let Liverpool win the title in case league completely stopped, but it's quite confusing on the relegation system. Crowning Liverpool as the current top team surely would affect the bottom three, leads them to be relegated to Championship. Sounds bit unfair imo.

Am not a Liverpool supporter but if because of the pandemic the league ends even after this reopening I would expect the league to b handed to Liverpool not because of its been years since the lifted the title last but because of there sublime performances, but the league must be played out to the final day, the fans would want no stories just celebration after winning they win the league with the games completed

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Quote from: jayce on June 09, 2020, 01:52:06 PM

I think most PL teams wouldn't mind to let Liverpool win the title in case league completely stopped, but it's quite confusing on the relegation system. Crowning Liverpool as the current top team surely would affect the bottom three, leads them to be relegated to Championship. Sounds bit unfair imo.

Most would be fine with that, except maybe City who still have an astronomically low chance of winning it Cheesy

. I don't think most people would have an issue with handing Liverpool the title now, but like you said it's the relegation that becomes the issue (and promotion from the Championship). It wouldn't be fair to relegate teams that can still get out of the zone nor deny the Championship teams promotion. Worst comes to worse they should just play with the extra teams in the league but I'm glad they've resolved to finishing the season so things like this don't need to happen.

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Quote from: examplens on June 09, 2020, 02:09:14 PM

do any of you follow Manchester City ban case? what's going on there, is there anything new?
I mean, it can be important for PL and many things, not only a CL places on the table. If they are banned from European competition, I guess PL also must punish them, and there they are in transgression. Some more severe punishment could seriously disrupt them in the years to come, even if I don't like this club, I would like them to remain in full force in the coming period.

Man City are appealing the 2 year ban, the issue is what if they win the CL this season? How can you ban the reigning champions for next season's competition? I don’t think they could do that.

Latest on it - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/52956259

Why could they not ban them? A ban is a ban. City will probably get it overturned or buy their way out of it. Of course there is also the possibility they don't qualify for it next season anyway Grin

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UEFA are not going to want to lose face here, if they lose this case then FFP is effectively a joke & can be abused by anybody. I think there could he some sort of a deal though & perhaps City only get banned for 1 season.

Let’s see what happens!

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Quote from: masulum on June 07, 2020, 10:40:10 PM

The presence of supporters always makes a difference for players. When the team is in a state of lagging several goals, it is the supporters who can encourage the host players so they can get up and turn around. Apart from the fatigue of the opposing players, there is a desire that those who come to the stadium do not go home disappointed, this is what in my opinion can have an influence on team motivation. Even so, this is only one factor, the mentality of players on the field is the most important role in a match either without or with supporters. We'll see how the team plays in these conditions in the second match without supporters. Does this have a big influence on the home team, or is it more beneficial to the opposing team?

I think I mentioned it before but it works both ways. Positive and negative. If your fans love you good. If they hate you?

You know for sure supporters make a difference when you have a lot of them. For small teams maybe they do not feel it, unless the fans are close to the pitch where the sounds are louder, but try entering a huge stadium with tens of thousands of fans shouting and the feeling is electric for fans,,, imagine what it feels like for players!

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Quote from: Coyster on June 10, 2020, 01:09:16 AM

Quote from: DeathAngel on June 09, 2020, 04:09:35 PM

Man City are appealing the 2 year ban, the issue is what if they win the CL this season? How can you ban the reigning champions for next season's competition? I don’t think they could do that.

It is not something UEFA will like to do, but if City wins the UCL this season, they will not be able to defend their title next season, except if they can win their appeal.

The competition will of course look strange without the defending champions (if city become champions) but it won't make sense if city participates when serving a two year ban, are they going to serve the ban in the next two seasons after that, what if they become champions again Grin

. The best thing is for them to serve the ban at the appropriate time imo.

With the appeal submitted to the court I think Mancity will still try to get its position but if this season the UCL title has been achieved perfectly then I think people are a bit strange in the next season without UCL qualifications without a defending champions club.

But Mancity must be able to accept decisions from UEFA because those decisions are independent of what they say so Mancity must be able to convince this season to become the UCL champion.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on June 09, 2020, 04:09:35 PM

Man City are appealing the 2 year ban, the issue is what if they win the CL this season? How can you ban the reigning champions for next season's competition? I don’t think they could do that.

It is not something UEFA will like to do, but if City wins the UCL this season, they will not be able to defend their title next season, except if they can win their appeal.

The competition will of course look strange without the defending champions (if city become champions) but it won't make sense if city participates when serving a two year ban, are they going to serve the ban in the next two seasons after that, what if they become champions again Grin

. The best thing is for them to serve the ban at the appropriate time imo.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on June 09, 2020, 04:09:35 PM

Quote from: examplens on June 09, 2020, 02:09:14 PM

do any of you follow Manchester City ban case? what's going on there, is there anything new?
I mean, it can be important for PL and many things, not only a CL places on the table. If they are banned from European competition, I guess PL also must punish them, and there they are in transgression. Some more severe punishment could seriously disrupt them in the years to come, even if I don't like this club, I would like them to remain in full force in the coming period.

Man City are appealing the 2 year ban, the issue is what if they win the CL this season? How can you ban the reigning champions for next season's competition? I don’t think they could do that.

Latest on it - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/52956259

As I understand, this court is independant from UEFA and will decide based on facts only.
Sport motives or reasons are not important in this case.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on June 09, 2020, 04:09:35 PM

Man City are appealing the 2 year ban, the issue is what if they win the CL this season? How can you ban the reigning champions for next season's competition? I don’t think they could do that.

Latest on it - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/52956259

I don't think it is impossible. Years ago, the champions of World Cup, Euro had priviledges to reserve a slot for next World Cups or Euros. Recent years, we had changes that champions also have to play qualifying rounds and their reserved slots no longer existed. The same things can be applied with Champions League or Europa league too. For Manchester City case, it will be a sudden and special case (for the first time in history of Champions League) if they win the title this season and will be banned next season because of transfer violations.

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Quote from: examplens on June 09, 2020, 02:09:14 PM

do any of you follow Manchester City ban case? what's going on there, is there anything new?
I mean, it can be important for PL and many things, not only a CL places on the table. If they are banned from European competition, I guess PL also must punish them, and there they are in transgression. Some more severe punishment could seriously disrupt them in the years to come, even if I don't like this club, I would like them to remain in full force in the coming period.

Man City are appealing the 2 year ban, the issue is what if they win the CL this season? How can you ban the reigning champions for next season's competition? I don’t think they could do that.

Latest on it - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/52956259

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do any of you follow Manchester City ban case? what's going on there, is there anything new?
I mean, it can be important for PL and many things, not only a CL places on the table. If they are banned from European competition, I guess PL also must punish them, and there they are in transgression. Some more severe punishment could seriously disrupt them in the years to come, even if I don't like this club, I would like them to remain in full force in the coming period.

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I think most PL teams wouldn't mind to let Liverpool win the title in case league completely stopped, but it's quite confusing on the relegation system. Crowning Liverpool as the current top team surely would affect the bottom three, leads them to be relegated to Championship. Sounds bit unfair imo.

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League Two have cancelled their season: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52705124

Championship has agreed on what to do if the season is ended early:

Quote from: cryptofrka on June 09, 2020, 02:09:47 AM

How does the transfer market work now? For example, if Chelsea manages to sign Werner, the transfer would happen after the end of the season, right?

It would be a bit unfair if Werner (or any other new player) was allowed to play in the current campaign. Also, Leipzig is still fighting for the CL, I can't imagine letting him go before their season ends. But their season will end a lot earlier than in Premier league.

They almost certainly won't be able to play until next season starts. They have to finish their own domestic leagues first.

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How does the transfer market work now? For example, if Chelsea manages to sign Werner, the transfer would happen after the end of the season, right?

It would be a bit unfair if Werner (or any other new player) was allowed to play in the current campaign. Also, Leipzig is still fighting for the CL, I can't imagine letting him go before their season ends. But their season will end a lot earlier than in Premier league.

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