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What's you guys take? Check this out, premier league starts, the balance is shifted - maybe because of long term sidelines of football- Liverpool loses that thing they had going, thing doesn't Start going jolly good for them, and man city starts to close in on them,
Do anyone think the premier league this season is not yet won and lost and things can still take another turn
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I guess they'd have to get more creative then.  Virtual fans that you could control thru a clicker app anybody?  Grin  They're gonna be for sale soon in a store near you.
Virtual fans? that would be cool...

but you know what's cooler? This  Grin Tongue 

I wonder how the coaches of these teams are sleeping:

https://i.imgur.com/YGcsnIJ.png
IMO the only ones losing any sleep are Chris Wilder because his team is overachieving and Bruno because Wolves have the gunners and spurs just a few points behind them.

the rest are used to working under pressure since they're in a top club so fighting for a place in the top spots of league table is just another day at the office.
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If we look back and take examples from earlier, I think we cannot find a better one than Wenger. His Arsenal was built without any real spending and he lost it only in the last 5 years or so. It worked for more than 10 before that and his legacy to football is quite big.

You forgot that Back then, there werent as many competitive club in premier league. Chelsea was still not a top club until they spend quite alot to bring in more top players. Manchester City was not the same as they are today and Liverpool was still struggling back then. So Wenger literally could get decent result without spending too much

It is different nowadays, You need to put in some extra money + extra effort on coach / strategy ( More on strategy/coach probably ). Take a look at Mourinho when he was still in Manchester United. He couldnt give any decent result even with all those top star player in the club  Wink
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Only Diego Simeone of A. Madrid seems to be a manager who can and want to build up a strong team with limited transfer fund. I don't know Simeone changed his style since the transfer of Joao Felix or not and we need to wait for next 1 or 2 transfer season to see how his transfer and management styles change.

Simeone is a good example, yes, but Pochettino is an even better one in my opinion. The results he had in England with Tottenham were amazing and considering he basically did not spend any money in the process makes him my current favorite for the 'overachiever' role.

If we look back and take examples from earlier, I think we cannot find a better one than Wenger. His Arsenal was built without any real spending and he lost it only in the last 5 years or so. It worked for more than 10 before that and his legacy to football is quite big.
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playing without supporters will certainly harm the home team. but this will always be a good opportunity for the opposing team. in the absence of fan support, chances are the opposing team will play more relaxed. surely this can be a more interesting game because it could be the home team who will be mentally pressured. especially for matches between top teams.

It’s far from ideal but any football back is good for me. I did see somewhere online that clubs are looking at the option of putting crowd noises loudly through the stadium speakers to create a more normal match day atmosphere.

The same thing applies to any other team. Those away team will play some home game as well however if they think this is just some kinda neutral game without any home or away side then it wont do any effect to any of those team

Actually some player would find it more relaxing without having anything to worry about on the field. Some young player gets nervous in a crowded game for sure
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playing without supporters will certainly harm the home team. but this will always be a good opportunity for the opposing team. in the absence of fan support, chances are the opposing team will play more relaxed. surely this can be a more interesting game because it could be the home team who will be mentally pressured. especially for matches between top teams.
I don't think this will be dangerous for the hosts but there is no income to the team now because the match is without supporters.
The host is certainly stronger now mentally because the match without their supporters is more relaxed because this is the first time the game for them might be without any support from the team or opponents so that the second match will be more relaxed until the end of the match.
It is enough that we know that they are not mentally strong for fear of being infected so that this could trigger their quietness between the 2 teams.
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^  It's better than nothing.  I miss watching grown men run the ball around.  Lolol.  Grin

Anyway you guys think mext season is will start too?  I'm not so hopeful tbh.  I think these last few fixtures could the last ones we'll enjoy til next year.  IMHO.

Last I read the plan is to start the next season as normal, but I guess things could change once this one is completed. Having an entire season behind closed doors could cause a lot of financial difficulties for clubs, but then again not playing also would. Maybe they'll start to televise more games to make up for lost revenues.

I guess they'd have to get more creative then.  Virtual fans that you could control thru a clicker app anybody?  Grin  They're gonna be for sale soon in a store near you.
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Bring it on, it’s only a matter of time until we’re crowned champions.

I hope liverpool will return with more determination to win all the remaining games and be a champion with a big difference of goals in relation to the second place.



I wonder how the coaches of these teams are sleeping:



each next game will be very important for these teams because it will dictate the final position they will occupy, I imagine that Mourinho must be more tense because his team does not have many players who score many goals and that will be a big problem, as far as I knew Harry Kane will be back and Mourinho will face Manchester United and has a better chance of losing in that game


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playing without supporters will certainly harm the home team. but this will always be a good opportunity for the opposing team. in the absence of fan support, chances are the opposing team will play more relaxed. surely this can be a more interesting game because it could be the home team who will be mentally pressured. especially for matches between top teams.

It’s far from ideal but any football back is good for me. I did see somewhere online that clubs are looking at the option of putting crowd noises loudly through the stadium speakers to create a more normal match day atmosphere.
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hmph..
playing without supporters will certainly harm the home team. but this will always be a good opportunity for the opposing team. in the absence of fan support, chances are the opposing team will play more relaxed. surely this can be a more interesting game because it could be the home team who will be mentally pressured. especially for matches between top teams.
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The Everton game won’t be as tough as it would normally, they normally have an angry, bitter, hostile crowd baying for blood. With an empty stadium it’s not going to be anywhere close to how tough it normally is at Goodison.

My prediction is we beat Everton & Palace & wrap it up before we go to City away. It won’t he much different for City to play in front of no fans, they’re used to it at The Etihad Wink

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Due to this changes the number of players allowed on the bench has been raised from seven to nine. These changes should be in effect at least till the end of the season.
Even though they did this to have more fresh legs for the congested schedule ahead, I don't think having more players on the bench is the best step when it comes to dealing with the virus.



I don't really get why they did this. Doesn't really make sense to me. What's the disadvantage in having three subs in the current climate? It's certainly going to give a disadvantage to teams with weaker squads/benches. It's also going to lead to more time-wasting like we already see with clubs often bringing on 1 or 2 subs towards the end of the game just to run the clock down. Now we'll be seeing 2 or 3 subs as standard being made, maybe even more.

Palace game should be easy enough for them but the other two away probably won't be. They only need to win two games I believe to clinch the title. Will they manage it within the first three?
I'm sure they able to secure 6 points in their first two games since Alisson is fit for the games. In otherwise, City would be in more difficult situation since they have to play against Arsenal, Burnley, and Chelsea before meet Liverpool. Must be hard for Pep to prepare his squad and he might lose some point in those games.

Well you would think or expect that, but the first game back being the derby might not be easy, especially away. Maybe they lose or draw that, beat Palace, then lose to City, which wouldn't surprise me with it being away. They're all games I'll be watching though. Liverpool might start to panic if they lose all three of them  Grin


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It's quite obvious that Arsenal might loose the match against city, I don't see Arsenal performing a miracle at Etihad stadium, a draw also ain't certain what Arsenal needs to do is to try as much as possible not to conceed up to 4 goals so as not to demoralized their spirit in next couple of matches
In case you forget, Arsenal has Arteta now who worked with Pep since Pep's arrival in Man City until last year. Of course it doesn't guarantee Arsenal to win, but it's not same Arsenal that struggled hardly in the first half of season. If Wolves and Man United able to beat them in Etihad, then there is a chance for Arsenal too.

The odds on sportsbet is not giving any chance to Arsenal to win this game, they see city as clear favorites and I don't know why tbh. City were not in excellent form before the EPL stopped and even if they were, after so long without football, I cannot pick a favorite team to win between this two 'big' teams as this is their first match in two months. @7.40 odds on Arsenal to win is a good bet that I'm seriously considering Grin
Yeah same with me. I think the odds for double chance @2.85 for Arsenal or Draw sounds fair enough lol.
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What? Mourinho spent loads of money everywhere he went.
Chelsea - 200 million in the first 2 years, that was in 2005 when it was the same as spending 1 billion.
Inter - 60 million the 1st season, also like 200 million in today's money.
Real - almost 100 million in the 1st season
United - 300 million in 2 seasons

I'm talking net spend here, so these are losses after we calculate sold players.

Except Guardiola, I do not know a single manager that was given the same money to spend as Mourinho. To be honest, I think he outspends everybody else by a mile.

He's exactly the opposite of a guy who does not need transfers to have a successful team.
Stats do not lie us. Both Mourinho and Pep are not the kind of managers who can build up a strong team from scratch and win titles. I think they can because Mourinho did it with Porto and he even brought Porto to UEFA and Champions League's cups. However, when they became famous and their reputation are high, they only want to have huge transfer funds to get instant success.

Only Diego Simeone of A. Madrid seems to be a manager who can and want to build up a strong team with limited transfer fund. I don't know Simeone changed his style since the transfer of Joao Felix or not and we need to wait for next 1 or 2 transfer season to see how his transfer and management styles change.
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Due to this changes the number of players allowed on the bench has been raised from seven to nine. These changes should be in effect at least till the end of the season.
Even though they did this to have more fresh legs for the congested schedule ahead, I don't think having more players on the bench is the best step when it comes to dealing with the virus.

but football that he exercise is not football that i like to watch, it is too boring,
Indeed.
- He loves "parking the bus".

It's quite obvious that Arsenal might loose the match against city, I don't see Arsenal performing a miracle at Etihad stadium, a draw also ain't certain what Arsenal needs to do is to try as much as possible not to conceed up to 4 goals so as not to demoralized their spirit in next couple of matches
I wouldn't be so sure about that...
- Both haven't played a competitive game for a long time and AFAIK, Arsenal started their training ahead of City [might have a better preparation going into the game].
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Klopp took over that role from Mourinho, look at all the transfers Klopp made, he didn't spend too much money on Dortmund at all and he took that team to a level they never imagined. He is at Liverpool now and he didn't really spend too much money on transfers there neither (except goalkeeper) and he took them to one champions league finals, one premier league second finish, one champions league title and soon a premier league title.

Mourinho used to be like that, give him a team and he doesn't require any transfers, just make him play that team and he would have found a way to get the most out of them. Nowadays football is not as defensive as Mourinho likes to play so he is not getting the success he used to get, his system was perfect against the high volume passing teams like 2010 Barcelona type, but nowadays it is not working as well as it used to.

What? Mourinho spent loads of money everywhere he went.
Chelsea - 200 million in the first 2 years, that was in 2005 when it was the same as spending 1 billion.
Inter - 60 million the 1st season, also like 200 million in today's money.
Real - almost 100 million in the 1st season
United - 300 million in 2 seasons

I'm talking net spend here, so these are losses after we calculate sold players.

Except Guardiola, I do not know a single manager that was given the same money to spend as Mourinho. To be honest, I think he outspends everybody else by a mile.

He's exactly the opposite of a guy who does not need transfers to have a successful team.
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Btw, on Sportsbet the odds on Man City vs Arsenal is @1.36 for City, @7.40 for Arsenal, and @5.20 for draw result. Arsenal is rising indeed under Arteta, but not sure they could win over City. The result might be at least draw or win for City.
The odds on sportsbet is not giving any chance to Arsenal to win this game, they see city as clear favorites and I don't know why tbh. City were not in excellent form before the EPL stopped and even if they were, after so long without football, I cannot pick a favorite team to win between this two 'big' teams as this is their first match in two months. @7.40 odds on Arsenal to win is a good bet that I'm seriously considering Grin
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Klopp took over that role from Mourinho, look at all the transfers Klopp made, he didn't spend too much money on Dortmund at all and he took that team to a level they never imagined. He is at Liverpool now and he didn't really spend too much money on transfers there neither (except goalkeeper) and he took them to one champions league finals, one premier league second finish, one champions league title and soon a premier league title.

Mourinho used to be like that, give him a team and he doesn't require any transfers, just make him play that team and he would have found a way to get the most out of them. Nowadays football is not as defensive as Mourinho likes to play so he is not getting the success he used to get, his system was perfect against the high volume passing teams like 2010 Barcelona type, but nowadays it is not working as well as it used to.
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 Hey at least you got a title after 30 years! Be happy with what you got Cheesy Do we know when the transfer window opens and when the next season starts? I have only seen this years deals but didn't see anything about next year at all. I mean looking at the situation I think they could keep it the way it is without changing anything, but since there is no talks about it I don't know if they already changed something or they are thinking about it or they are not going to at all. If there is a transfer window change that could be helpful for the teams as well because if you postpone transfer window, they could at least play these games and have time to calculate all the costs of pandemic when the league is over (which would be a better understanding of their finances) and that way they could buy players differently.
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Btw, on Sportsbet the odds on Man City vs Arsenal is @1.36 for City, @7.40 for Arsenal, and @5.20 for draw result. Arsenal is rising indeed under Arteta, but not sure they could win over City. The result might be at least draw or win for City.
It's quite obvious that Arsenal might loose the match against city, I don't see Arsenal performing a miracle at Etihad stadium, a draw also ain't certain what Arsenal needs to do is to try as much as possible not to conceed up to 4 goals so as not to demoralized their spirit in next couple of matches

From another angle, anyone can actually win the tie for the few weeks.
The match between arsenal and manchester city will not be a tie that is about good players, it will be judged by the fitter team.

There will be surprises once the EPL commences, and it is one i am eager to be watch.
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