Topic: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. - page 19. (Read 9750 times)

That's right, and it's very scary to see the eyes of mothers and wives who have been struggling with the addiction of husbands and sons for years.. and unsuccessfully. The eyes of these women are gray and tired, because they have seen how much a person can fall, while being a native. And I think that anyone would droop seeing how someone who until recently was a cheerful and cheerful guy is trying to borrow money from those with whom he met a few hours ago. You wouldn't wish such a fate on anyone.

They will keep trying to hide everything especially when finances already messing around, and like what you just mentioned it will slowly be reveal once they start asking for money or trying to loan from someone which is not the usual cycle of their budget, it's really annoying for those housewives who will see such kind of things that giving sign of any involvement of their husband in this dangerous type of activities will simply react like this.

After learning that the risk is high and not just for finances but more on the emotional side of the family, it can ruin everything so they will try whatever they can do to stop their husband and not to let them engage that much and be a gambling addicted person.

I think that every wife who has watched at least one interview with a gambling addict will worry if she sees a roulette wheel on her husband's monitor. Or coefficients for teams in a mobile phone, or even a poker app. It's just that if the games turn into a serious addiction, then it will be hard to notice immediately for non-players.

After all, the addict hides his losses in the game, and only such signs as: attempts to borrow money from all friends, bad sleep, secrecy and aggressiveness.

And when the burden becomes large because of their desire to pursue victory or recover from their losses, the burden ultimately makes them increasingly frustrated and stressed because they cannot get what they want. This is what we have to be aware of because by trying to do these things, we can get deeper into gambling and risk a gambling addiction that we might not be able to imagine. Moreover, continuing to gamble can result in bigger losses for us, so that we will forget to limit our budget for gambling even though we have already limited our budget. That's where we have to realize that we have actually lost self-control and really need help from other people to help us solve the problems we face. By having these problems, it will be difficult for us to stop gambling because we will not recognize or realize that we actually have a gambling addiction that has become quite severe. If we don't immediately realize it, the gambling addiction will get bigger, and we will have difficulty curing the gambling addiction.

I worry about someone who gambles in the middle of the night because he should be able to rest at night, but instead, he gambles where if he forgets to stop gambling, he can continue gambling until morning and end up not sleeping all night. If he does things like that continuously and doesn't get enough rest or sleep at night, his health will be disturbed, and he will become susceptible to disease. In contrast, if he is sick, all his daily activities will definitely be disrupted. He will not be free to do anything because he is still sick and needs to heal himself from his illness first. Other problems must be considered. Apart from physical pain, he can also experience mental pain due to frustration, stress, and depression due to losing from gambling. It will make him want to recover his losses, and at that time, he will start to experience gambling addiction.


For addiction problems, psychiatrists or doctors are both helpful, so it's just a matter of spelling wrongly, but we know the meaning is the same. Sorry if I spelled it wrong, but I meant people who deal with addiction problems. A psychiatrist or psychologist could treat them.

Carrying out quarantine for people who are seriously addicted to gambling will probably be done like people who are seriously addicted to drugs. It depends on how severe the level of addiction is. A doctor or, psychologist or someone who is an expert in treating addiction problems will see how severe the level of addiction is before they start carrying out healing therapy. If their addiction is still within normal limits, perhaps they will not be quarantined because they are still aware of themselves and their surroundings. But for the therapy process, it would be better if his family accompanied him so that he could see that he was not fighting alone but that he had his family who continued to accompany him and provide encouragement for him. It could be that the healing process will be very painful for a person with an addiction because they have to try to fight their addiction so they can recover and change and get back to their normal life.

At least by telling other people about the problems they are facing it can make them feel relieved, and they can find a solution because by meeting other people, someone who is addicted might be able to get ideas for reducing their gambling addiction. Perhaps he has not been able to cure his gambling addiction. However, he has ideas that can help him to reduce the level of his gambling addiction, and it is really necessary to try so that he can see how far he can reduce the level of his gambling addiction. Indeed, it will have an impact on his life, but by knowing that there is a solution he can get from sharing with others about his problem, he can see that he can actually still reduce the level of his gambling addiction with help from other people.
But it is difficult to open the insight and mind of someone who is addicted to gambling, especially those who have been gambling for a long time, because they need to realize the mistakes they have made, admit them, and try to reduce and cure them. With help from other people, they can get something useful so they can try to reduce the level of their gambling addiction.

It's true what you said, if there is also a family that supports gambling, maybe it's a family that has endless money income. But suppose I have an endless income of money, and have a member who is addicted to gambling I will still prevent them from always gambling. because it can have an impact on myself who has an endless income of money, because maybe they can borrow money from me for gambling capital by force, and if I don't give it, it could be that a person who is addicted to gambling does something unnatural that will harm others and of course I myself don't want my members to do that. So I will try to get the addicted person to leave their addiction habit, If gently cannot change them, then inevitably a lesson must be given firmly and hard, because it is for their own good. It's nonsense that gambling can make you rich quickly, however, gambling will only cause problems if a person cannot control himself so that it becomes an addiction that has dangerous effects.

It is true that you say that, pursuing victory will only be a burden for themselves and become a thought that is difficult to get rid of because it is attached and made as their main goal. The point of pleasure that may be difficult to find because of the pursuit of victory, by gambling that does not aim to get pleasure but to pursue victory it will only make problems for those who will experience it, because the victory that never gets with the defeat that only gets that makes them upset and continue to want to take revenge to pursue victory that can cover the defeat that has occurred will torment and lose them from many things, especially money, time, health. They should be able to gamble with the limits set to avoid things that are not wanted, but if they still insist like that, it will be difficult to advise them that what they are doing is wrong.

There may be no one to forbid it, but maybe family members will give a little warning, but it can still be ignored. By gambling in the middle of the night, they have the opportunity to gamble for a long time if they do not have the self-control to limit their gambling. But everyone knows that gambling can make a person forget about many things, because the sensation displayed by the game can make them lulled to continue gambling, in my opinion few people have strong control to be able to limit their gambling time. Sometimes even someone who has self-control will feel annoyed by gambling that always loses especially in the middle of the night, it is very vulnerable to increasing their emotions which makes them want to continue gambling, my advice is that if they really have good self-control they should know the time to gamble by not doing it in the middle of the night which could interfere with their rest time, even if the next day they don't have a busy schedule it's better to rest with enough time so that nothing happens to their own health.

I would like to correct a little bit, I didn't say psychiatrist or psychology. Because as far as I know psychiatrists are doctors, while psychologists are psychologists.
Is the isolation you are referring to quarantine? If that's the case, maybe what you suggest can be done for those with serious addictions, by forcing them to realize their self-destructive behavior and actually many things can be done to awaken someone who is addicted to gambling, it's just that those who are severely addicted cannot accept input, advice from people so they themselves lead into serious healing. The family has an important role in this, because no matter what state they are in, the family will definitely accept it if they want to change for the better, also of course they will provide the best support to encourage them to change for the better. Even though the healing process is painful for them if they really want to change, they will definitely do it, even if it takes a long time they will definitely do it, because it should be everyone who is addicted to something that is not good, they should be able to leave their bad habits, it is also impossible for them to continue to be addicted to old age which will certainly harm them even though they have a lot of money, there is nothing wrong with dying of addictions that harm themselves.

Yes, that's right, by telling what he experienced to other people and asking for advice and solutions to overcome the problems that occurred, maybe they can provide solutions to overcome his problems and also provide a way out, so if it's like that, it's just how someone does it and don't forget to consider it so that nothing else happens. Of course, if it affects other people it is very unnatural, because other people who don't know anything but are affected. Naturally, they themselves must accept the impact of what they have done themselves. It is indeed difficult to find their point of consciousness, because their thoughts are already filled with their addiction that makes their thoughts not think of anything else, not to mention that they have a stubborn nature which is certainly not happy if advised by others by not being able to accept themselves being advised, even though other people who advise them are not just lip service but for their good too. Maybe it's true what you said, they have to feel something so big or whatever it is that can make them realize by themselves. If indeed other people cannot make them aware then there is no more solution except for them themselves who must be aware of their wrong behavior that has also made themselves lose themselves.

Okay I see what you mean now, so they don't need to be at the bottom to realize. "unless eventually he experiences something that makes him enlightened and finally able to realize his mistake.". Then this sentence doesn't mean the lowest point. And it's hard to get to the point of realization from gambling.

Relax buddy, I just didn't understand what you were saying before. it's not a big mistake, it's just that it can make other people misunderstand like me.

In fact, if someone can gamble responsibly, he will not feel any burden because he will only think about getting pleasure from gambling and will not chase after winning. He also will not be addicted to continuing gambling because he feels that gambling is entertainment. If he has had that pleasure, he will immediately stop gambling without feeling that he has to reach his break-even point before he gambles. He can enjoy his gambling games and will pay attention to his health because, for him, gambling must be done in a relaxed way so he can enjoy his gambling time. Gambling has serious impacts on gamblers who cannot control themselves, so responsible gamblers will not want to take the risk of being affected and will always be careful when gambling.

Gambling in the middle of the night is actually okay as long as he can manage his gambling time and not gamble for too long because he also needs rest so that the next day, he can return to his usual activities. That's assuming he has a lot of activity, so he has self-control in gambling in the middle of the night. He will take care of himself while gambling and will not lose control of himself until he gambles too much because he knows that what he does at night is just to enjoy the short time before he sleeps. However, if he has a busy activity schedule the next day, he will not force himself to gamble but will immediately rest because he is more concerned with his activities the next day than gambling.


Addiction to gambling or drugs has a fatal impact because he cannot think clearly about what he is doing and only wants to gamble or do drugs while enjoying his time. Maybe seeing a psychiatrist won't be able to provide a solution to the addiction, especially if the addiction is already in the serious category. They may have to undergo isolation first to make them aware and open their minds that they have a serious gambling addiction so that they can realize it and regret it. After their condition is completely calm and they can accept their situation, maybe the psychiatrist can start to come in and make them aware so that they can undergo each healing session. In this phase, they may begin to receive advice or instructions about what they should do before undergoing a therapy session so that they are ready when they start therapy. In his initial condition up to this point, it would actually have been better if he had his family who continued to accompany him so that he could see that he was not alone in struggling to overcome his addiction problem, but that he had his family who continued to encourage him that he was able to overcome it. However, the process of healing this addiction will be painful for them because they have to start their lives from the beginning again and get rid of the effects of their addiction that are already attached to them. Perhaps this process will take a long time, depending on how prepared he is to undergo the healing process. If his family can accompany him, perhaps he will be more enthusiastic about going through each process.

Every problem can be solved well, and it depends on how we think about how to solve it. If they have difficulty finding a solution, they can tell the people around them so they can find a way or solution. They won't have difficulty finding a solution because the people around them have helped them, so they can immediately start implementing the solution while evaluating the changes. Everyone who is addicted can definitely be cured. It depends on the person who is addicted because if he doesn't feel addicted, other people won't be able to help him and will probably only see him becoming more and more addicted. This is dangerous because he can make his life dangerous and can have an impact on the people around him. If he had a stubborn nature, it wouldn't be easy to advise him because he would defend himself unless he finally experienced something that made him enlightened and finally able to realize his mistakes.

You have to understand the previous sentence so you understand what I wrote. What I mean is that maybe they can regularly exercise outside while breathing fresh air every morning or evening and also make another schedule that can be done regularly so that they can't think about gambling like before. They also don't need to be at their lowest point to gain enlightenment.

I forgot to add the word "but" in the part that most of them need to experience falling to rock bottom so they can gain enlightenment about the mistakes they made, gain awareness, and grow the desire to start changing their lives for the better. That's what makes you misunderstand what I mean. Forgive me.

We should be able to trust ourselves so that we can control ourselves well, but the problem is we lose self-control in gambling after winning or winning, which causes us to experience gambling addiction. And that is also why we cannot stop gambling easily because we are still thinking about chasing wins or recovering the losses we experience. If someone loses self-control in gambling and becomes addicted to gambling and a family member finds out about this, that will disappoint them and will make it difficult for them to cure that person.

People probably won't think about why they have to gamble, whereas if they don't gamble, their lives won't be a problem, and they can even save money for their future. Maybe it is true that they gamble because they are curious to see if other people can make money from gambling, so they are curious and want to try it. But it turns out their fate is different from other people's, where they don't win but instead suffer a lot of losses until they end up addicted. If this is the case, they will find it difficult to stop gambling.

If everything can be handled without any conviction then yeah I can also presume that they can be called a professional who shares everything in terms of strategy and skills, it's possible and it does exist since there are parents who are open to their activities and allow their kids to be involved when the time comes for them,

I guess it's not as easy as it is but then again if there's open communication and part of the family is open in the sense that they really communicate and they are good in terms of coordinating their moves and involvements with one another.

Yes of course not all families support gambling. Very few families support gambling and everyone enjoys gambling together.  Because they know how dangerous gambling is. It gives financial advice to everyone but on the contrary causes financial loss to everyone.  And everyone goes gambling with the intention of becoming financially strong fast. In this way, they become addicted to gambling and suffer extremely. And families who support gambling can never live in peace

I think most families will not support gambling activities, because many people have a bad point of view on gambling which harms others rather than benefits, and I think even rich people who have a lot of money and abundant assets if they don't like gambling and one of their family members is addicted to gambling, I don't think they will let it go, I think they will act to advise them and provide explanations about gambling which can harm themselves as well as harm others in the future. As you said, the biggest mistake is to make gambling as the main income this is what makes them addicted, because with the desire to get a big win makes them addicted to losing a lot of money to gamble, if only they could gamble with just fun, maybe many people would not be addicted to gambling, but indeed the attraction and temptation of gambling is strong, so it is easy to attract people to continue gambling endlessly.

Quitting gambling is very difficult and when family members are gambling friendly and everyone in the family enjoys gambling together it is almost impossible to quit gambling. Because the main reason for someone to give up gambling is the pressure of family members. However, where family members support gambling, it will be much more difficult for a family member of that family to quit gambling. Gambling is fun but many consider it as a way of income. And they think that maybe he will win something big by gambling but in the end he loses nothing.

If a family member indulges in gambling, if that family member shares the betting with another member, others can certainly claim his gambling money. The issue of regular gambling is kept secret in most of the families because everyone does not support gambling. But in families where gambling can be openly talked about, the members are definitely responsible gamblers, so they can easily share their gambling. I will never share my gambling as this will hinder my gambling. I think gambling matters can be shared on the basis of the situation. In a family where gamblers can share their gambling without any hesitation they may belong on the list of professional gamblers.

Agree with you mate and yes we are all know that quiting in gambling we can say is that it's both of it hard and easy  but the majority here is hard, as we are all know that it takes time once a addict overcome it leave in gambling cause it will need more discipline and self control in order to pursue thier aim which is to leave in gambling. While those mild gamblers it's easy for them to quit in gambling as they don't take it seriously and they will gamble for sun only not aiming for the money they will earn once they will win.

Is it realistic? Gambling fundamentally alters our reward systems. Can we trust ourselves to control our impulses? Family disappointment - isnt the core issue deeper? Gambling entraps people psychologically, not letting them down. Your argument relies on the idea that one can maintain control in a hostile environment. This is a risky gamble.

Gambling "for pleasure" is an oxymoron when stakes are high and losses are certain. Self-control without a net is like walking a tightrope. Shouldnt we ask why we gamble and address the needs it falsely promises to meet?

Do we oversimplify human psychology by focusing on self-discipline and negative association? Your strategy relies on personal resolve, but what about the emotional or cognitive triggers that cause gambling? Arent they equally important? Consider this: if someone suppresses the need without recognizing the cause, they may replace gambling with another bad habit. This strategy may work in the short term, but may it neglect deeper psychological requirements or vulnerabilities?

You say therapy essential for disorganized people. Could therapy offer more than coping mechanisms for the undisciplined? Perhaps emotional intelligence and self-awareness are more important than discipline. Therapy helps reveal the root causes of addiction, enabling lasting change. Isnt it restrictive to label therapy a sign of weakness when it may be a step toward comprehensive well-being? Could we not claim that therapy's introspective journey benefits everyone, regardless of self-discipline?

quiting gambling is both easy and hard, it deends on who is involved and the features the person is endowed with.

For a disciplined man, when he says I'm quiting a thing, he formats his mind to that decision and works towards it.

I'll gve an example: When I want to do away with a thing, firstly, I start looking for the flaws in that thing and S start telling myself a thousand and one reasons why I should dislike it and not indulge anymore, I start creating a world full of resentment around the experiences and memories I have on that thing and in a matter of months, I'm done with it. Although flashes of memories will surface sometimes but my resolve on it is final. Then when I face it, it looks like conquering it is easy.

For someone who isn't as strong-willed and disciplined as supposed, he or she might need therapy to help him cope, in such cases, it can be termed hard.

Play wisely and it will help not to engage that much, and with knowledge you will be able to stop yourself when you feel that you are doing it the wrong way, without control you will play things aggresively and it will lead you to an addiction where you can possibly lose a lot of your money instead of a fix amount for gambling, you may add more.


Not chasing anything and just play as you enjoy it and the rest if ever chances let you win from your gambling, it's bonus but better to treat the deposit amount as a fee for your entertainment and if you lose just move on and forget about chasing anything to recover.

Gambling responsibly, by paying attention to other things that are more important than gambling. do not let just gambling harm many things such as time and health, gambling naturally without overdoing it so it will not become addictive, playing at the right time so that you can enjoy the game and also pay attention to your own health, do not get sick because only because of playing gambling that interferes with our rest time. If only for once in a while it doesn't matter but if you make it a habit it is highly discouraged, gambling that has its own impact should not be added by playing it during sleeping hours.

But there are indeed people who play like that, by playing gambling in the middle of the night because they take the peace that exists, only sooner or later their health will be damaged because of the impact of lack of sleep or rest. This is also not a little done by people, many do it, but whatever because it's their own choice. They also have their own thoughts, so they can think which is good and not good for them. although it is difficult to rise from adversity, but they really have to do it in order to change their lives for the better, because their future is unlikely to be spent gambling alone. if they really want wealth they have to work hard to achieve a decent life, not by gambling which is made their main income in life.

If the addiction to gambling or drugs is also fatal, what is damaged is not physical but their thinking, so they have to meet other people to ask for advice and input, if it still doesn't work because the addiction is severe, maybe they should meet with a psychological expert because healing the mind is not as easy as healing physical wounds, their mentality that is also damaged will have a bad impact on others, by changing their attitude to become more aggressive and maybe they can commit unintentional acts of violence when they are being advised by others or their families. It can be said that people who are already addicted will not realize that they are addicted, even addictions like this usually hide it because they are embarrassed if other people find out not to mention the family that if they know this bad habit there may be conflict between the family and the addicted person, Where we know that addicted people tend not to want to lose because they are hypnotized by the things they always do which according to themselves it has become their personal needs, just like drugs, as you said "taking a drug addict to a rehabilitation center" the process of healing this addiction will be painful or torturous for the addict, but if he himself wants to recover then he must undergo it even if it tortures themselves. No one else can help them but themselves who determine their future, it is impossible for those who are adults or even have a family to still depend on their parents.

All problems must have a way out, it's just that the rest depends on themselves who will determine the future. If they are already aware of the things they are doing that are detrimental to themselves then they can realize it even though the chances are very small. As much as possible they should be able to get through it because it is also for their own good not for others, because it is impossible if they are still addicted to old age. unless they have a large fixed income then they can do gambling until old age because of their inexhaustible income. it is not necessary to be at the lowest point to get enlightenment, but if those who are addicted to it have a stubborn nature, how? I think even people who support him will feel annoyed by advising him if he himself has not changed at all, with his awareness it is difficult in the sense of stubbornness, maybe people also who support his recovery will let him go because they feel they have wasted time advising him but there is no change made.

You said something backwards "They also don't need to be at their lowest point to gain enlightenment. Most of them need to experience falling to the lowest point in order for them to gain enlightenment" I don't understand this sentence of yours, you say "don't need to" but the next sentence you say "they need to" even though in that one sentence the one goal is enlightenment, it's just that your second sentence has the word "fall" which distinguishes it from the first sentence.

To start a new life, they must make a total recovery and that is not easy to do, in the process it is hard and will even torture themselves and that is what they have to face if they want a new clean life. By starting a new life without gambling or drug addiction, it will make their lives calmer every day without feeling the anxiety of gambling.

That is why we must be able to learn self-control so that we can actually use it every time we gamble to protect us from excessive gambling. By having good self-control, we will not fail in refusing or stopping the gambling we have done. And with that self-control, we will not experience serious problems such as gambling addiction, and we will also not disappoint our families because we are still fine. Our family will not be willing to see a family member become addicted to gambling, and they will probably do everything they can to cure us if we experience a gambling addiction. That's why we have to really pay attention to this issue of self-control if we still want to gamble as usual and not let ourselves lose self-control because that could have bad consequences for our lives.

Those of us who have been gambling for some time certainly realize that we must be able to have self-control and also strong intentions and determination that we only gamble for pleasure. We also don't gamble too often because we already know what the impact will be, so we really take care of ourselves so that we don't experience the bad effects.

We are people who must be very doable in doing any activity, we are people who have to make decisions, and not do too much to be able to have good results, so for this we must be very intelligent, and to be intelligent we have to have control and know how to play, in fact one of the things that stake.co has as its motto is to play intelligently and that is what we should do in any place, for that we must always have our own rules, the rules, the most basic for me is simple, leave money ready to lose and when we have large enough winnings, don't play anymore and retire, it's simple, if the money you are ready to lose is lost, you should assume that loss and not chase the losses, I have seen many threads that talk about addiction, about chasing losses and that is something that worries me, that makes me understand that many players do not control themselves.

When we do not control ourselves and we can start to lose more than we should, we must be aware of something, that we are not pursuing losses and that there are no addiction problems, that is what we must always consider, if other intelligent people do not fall into addiction, if We are intelligent people, all we have to do is take care of our money, 'because as I have said many times, without money the party is over, so it is better to keep our money, continue living our normal lives, without losing friends, without going into debt. , without losing family and without reaching those cases where people decide to take their own lives just because they do not know how to control it, that is something that we must see very clearly, that is why we must always undertake to do things well and in an orderly manner in a casino, so as not to lose things, I am one of those who think that money is everything in a casino when it comes to deciding whether you are a good or bad player.

Everyone has self-control over every activity they do, but not everyone knows how to maintain this control because most people fail to maintain control over themselves.
We understand that the role of the family is very important and meaningful in every effort to help solve problems or resolve cases of gambling addiction that we are experiencing, but are we willing to see our families disappointed by what we do?
It seems like you, me or even none of us are willing to see this and of course we will only hope that our family knows about the good we are doing instead of telling them about our gambling activities.
We gamble according to our own wishes so we must be able to take responsibility for all the impacts and risks of gambling without making it difficult for other people, including family.

It all depends on intention, determination and also the awareness that one must recover, one must be able to become better person and improve all forms of detrimental activities.
With all this, he can heal on his own, but only time can determine how fast or slow the healing process will be.

It seems not because not all gamblers have families who also agree or even like gambling.
I have large family and among this large family, which consists of dozens of adult men, there are only three people who like to gamble and gamble according to their individual wishes without disturbing each other.
And from this it can be concluded that what you say is not completely true.