Topic: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. - page 19. (Read 10336 times)

After his recovery, her husband was able to start his new life with his family again, and her husband will make up for his mistakes in the past by working hard to make his family happy. Well, perhaps he doesn't want to answer our questions because it might hurt him, and he wants to forget what happened to him, so we don't need to ask him for answers so he can focus on his family and improve his family's economy well. You are right that it all depends on a person's will and his ability to work on curing his gambling addiction so that he will not repeat the mistakes of the past. For now, he is busy with his days of making his family happy again. Hopefully, his experiences in the past can provide lessons for him and all of us so that we can be really careful when gambling and not use our money too much. We are responsible for our gambling activities, and we should also be able to control our gambling activities and ourselves.

I go with that last statement, the fun that you will get coming from your love ones is far better and true than the fun that you are gaining from each gambling sessions that you got, more on the alluring side of your lust that leads you to continue polluting your mind regarding to your gambling participation, unlike with the fun that you will share with your family when there's no gambling inside your minds, all serves as good memories and nothing but real joy in life.

That's the phase of denial and we as gamblers don't want our families to get involved on our gambling activities. And we don't want them to know that we're gambling because first, they will think that we're actual addicted gamblers even if we're not or not yet. But let's just admit the fact that many gamblers go to that point that they become addicted because they lack of control.

And if no one stops us from gambling even if they're seeing that we're already going to that point of our lives that we're becoming severe. That's our problem because we don't even want them to stop us, so even if they are aware of it, they just don't want to intervene because for some reasons.

Likely, first, that they've reminded us but we have never obliged and we could have been mad at them so they don't want that to happen again. That frustration from their end is understandable but the time will come that we need to do better not just for them but mostly for ourselves.

Yeah, the fact of the matter is that this man I know was cured from a very serious stage of gambling addiction in some completely incomprehensible way.  Indeed, for several years his family suffered from the facct that they did not have enough money even for food, simply because he kept losing everything in gambling.  But, according to his wife, her husband, for some unknown reason, began to play less and less at some point.  It seemed as if someone had coded him, or he himself was “burned out” by the desire to gamble. 
When you ask him how you managed to do this, he always avoids answering and it is impossible to understand the reason for such a change.  But I know for sure that he did not openly seek medical and psychological help.  So, apparently there are different options for treating gambling addiction. 
And probably everything depends on the person’s willpower and on the ability to somehow get together, realize and suppress such a vicious passion as the painful desire to gamble.

Actually many gamblers will do the gambling without knowing of their family members,when they are in the addiction.If the gambler are free from their family touch and had separate room for the gambler is enough.So the gambler will do gambling on their wish,no one will stop from their family circle.Only if the gambler had loss huge money in the gambling and ask their relatives for money as loan,then the family members come to know the gambler was involved in some thing.On investigation with the gambler,they come to know about their activities.So the gambler who loss money get capture by the family members,if the gambler manage all the loss from their winnings from the later game in gambling sites means.In this case the gambler can't be identified by their family members.

Salute to those family members that are doing their best to stop the one family member that are being involved in gambling and they know that will become addicted eventually. We are all gamblers and we know the risk that it has and the effects that can happen for someone. What matters now is that everyone should be aware of the consequences of it.

If your family is very worrying of what it can do to you and them ,then you have to decide and think again whether you want to proceed or not anymore. Because if you do so, that means that you're not giving them a chance to help you out because they understand things better than you.

And if you insist that you know better than them then it only means that you're not giving them any space of what you're thinking. There are things that you just need to give up and you'll get a better version of yourself if you do it. And for the addicted gamblers, forget about gambling for a while and give your family a chance to be with you and have fun, it's way better than the fun that you used to get as you gamble.

Of course it is the people around them who suffer. The addict is just feeding their addiction so they are happy. They must be or they would change their behavior. If they are unhappy and choose not to change their behavior then they have no one else to blame but themselves. In the end, people need to be the ones to hold themselves accountable for their actions.

When a person is sick, and like it is the case here those which are addicted are sick on their minds, the ones that are around them suffer greatly, and in some cases it could be said they even suffer more than the sick ones, as they try to do anything that could help their loved ones, only for every single attempt to fail, so this is very draining mentally and it could cause some of them to develop issues on their own as they cannot deal with that situation anymore.

That's right, and it's very scary to see the eyes of mothers and wives who have been struggling with the addiction of husbands and sons for years.. and unsuccessfully. The eyes of these women are gray and tired, because they have seen how much a person can fall, while being a native. And I think that anyone would droop seeing how someone who until recently was a cheerful and cheerful guy is trying to borrow money from those with whom he met a few hours ago. You wouldn't wish such a fate on anyone.

They will keep trying to hide everything especially when finances already messing around, and like what you just mentioned it will slowly be reveal once they start asking for money or trying to loan from someone which is not the usual cycle of their budget, it's really annoying for those housewives who will see such kind of things that giving sign of any involvement of their husband in this dangerous type of activities will simply react like this.

After learning that the risk is high and not just for finances but more on the emotional side of the family, it can ruin everything so they will try whatever they can do to stop their husband and not to let them engage that much and be a gambling addicted person.

I think that every wife who has watched at least one interview with a gambling addict will worry if she sees a roulette wheel on her husband's monitor. Or coefficients for teams in a mobile phone, or even a poker app. It's just that if the games turn into a serious addiction, then it will be hard to notice immediately for non-players.

After all, the addict hides his losses in the game, and only such signs as: attempts to borrow money from all friends, bad sleep, secrecy and aggressiveness.

And when the burden becomes large because of their desire to pursue victory or recover from their losses, the burden ultimately makes them increasingly frustrated and stressed because they cannot get what they want. This is what we have to be aware of because by trying to do these things, we can get deeper into gambling and risk a gambling addiction that we might not be able to imagine. Moreover, continuing to gamble can result in bigger losses for us, so that we will forget to limit our budget for gambling even though we have already limited our budget. That's where we have to realize that we have actually lost self-control and really need help from other people to help us solve the problems we face. By having these problems, it will be difficult for us to stop gambling because we will not recognize or realize that we actually have a gambling addiction that has become quite severe. If we don't immediately realize it, the gambling addiction will get bigger, and we will have difficulty curing the gambling addiction.

I worry about someone who gambles in the middle of the night because he should be able to rest at night, but instead, he gambles where if he forgets to stop gambling, he can continue gambling until morning and end up not sleeping all night. If he does things like that continuously and doesn't get enough rest or sleep at night, his health will be disturbed, and he will become susceptible to disease. In contrast, if he is sick, all his daily activities will definitely be disrupted. He will not be free to do anything because he is still sick and needs to heal himself from his illness first. Other problems must be considered. Apart from physical pain, he can also experience mental pain due to frustration, stress, and depression due to losing from gambling. It will make him want to recover his losses, and at that time, he will start to experience gambling addiction.


For addiction problems, psychiatrists or doctors are both helpful, so it's just a matter of spelling wrongly, but we know the meaning is the same. Sorry if I spelled it wrong, but I meant people who deal with addiction problems. A psychiatrist or psychologist could treat them.

Carrying out quarantine for people who are seriously addicted to gambling will probably be done like people who are seriously addicted to drugs. It depends on how severe the level of addiction is. A doctor or, psychologist or someone who is an expert in treating addiction problems will see how severe the level of addiction is before they start carrying out healing therapy. If their addiction is still within normal limits, perhaps they will not be quarantined because they are still aware of themselves and their surroundings. But for the therapy process, it would be better if his family accompanied him so that he could see that he was not fighting alone but that he had his family who continued to accompany him and provide encouragement for him. It could be that the healing process will be very painful for a person with an addiction because they have to try to fight their addiction so they can recover and change and get back to their normal life.

At least by telling other people about the problems they are facing it can make them feel relieved, and they can find a solution because by meeting other people, someone who is addicted might be able to get ideas for reducing their gambling addiction. Perhaps he has not been able to cure his gambling addiction. However, he has ideas that can help him to reduce the level of his gambling addiction, and it is really necessary to try so that he can see how far he can reduce the level of his gambling addiction. Indeed, it will have an impact on his life, but by knowing that there is a solution he can get from sharing with others about his problem, he can see that he can actually still reduce the level of his gambling addiction with help from other people.
But it is difficult to open the insight and mind of someone who is addicted to gambling, especially those who have been gambling for a long time, because they need to realize the mistakes they have made, admit them, and try to reduce and cure them. With help from other people, they can get something useful so they can try to reduce the level of their gambling addiction.

It's true what you said, if there is also a family that supports gambling, maybe it's a family that has endless money income. But suppose I have an endless income of money, and have a member who is addicted to gambling I will still prevent them from always gambling. because it can have an impact on myself who has an endless income of money, because maybe they can borrow money from me for gambling capital by force, and if I don't give it, it could be that a person who is addicted to gambling does something unnatural that will harm others and of course I myself don't want my members to do that. So I will try to get the addicted person to leave their addiction habit, If gently cannot change them, then inevitably a lesson must be given firmly and hard, because it is for their own good. It's nonsense that gambling can make you rich quickly, however, gambling will only cause problems if a person cannot control himself so that it becomes an addiction that has dangerous effects.

It is true that you say that, pursuing victory will only be a burden for themselves and become a thought that is difficult to get rid of because it is attached and made as their main goal. The point of pleasure that may be difficult to find because of the pursuit of victory, by gambling that does not aim to get pleasure but to pursue victory it will only make problems for those who will experience it, because the victory that never gets with the defeat that only gets that makes them upset and continue to want to take revenge to pursue victory that can cover the defeat that has occurred will torment and lose them from many things, especially money, time, health. They should be able to gamble with the limits set to avoid things that are not wanted, but if they still insist like that, it will be difficult to advise them that what they are doing is wrong.

There may be no one to forbid it, but maybe family members will give a little warning, but it can still be ignored. By gambling in the middle of the night, they have the opportunity to gamble for a long time if they do not have the self-control to limit their gambling. But everyone knows that gambling can make a person forget about many things, because the sensation displayed by the game can make them lulled to continue gambling, in my opinion few people have strong control to be able to limit their gambling time. Sometimes even someone who has self-control will feel annoyed by gambling that always loses especially in the middle of the night, it is very vulnerable to increasing their emotions which makes them want to continue gambling, my advice is that if they really have good self-control they should know the time to gamble by not doing it in the middle of the night which could interfere with their rest time, even if the next day they don't have a busy schedule it's better to rest with enough time so that nothing happens to their own health.

I would like to correct a little bit, I didn't say psychiatrist or psychology. Because as far as I know psychiatrists are doctors, while psychologists are psychologists.
Is the isolation you are referring to quarantine? If that's the case, maybe what you suggest can be done for those with serious addictions, by forcing them to realize their self-destructive behavior and actually many things can be done to awaken someone who is addicted to gambling, it's just that those who are severely addicted cannot accept input, advice from people so they themselves lead into serious healing. The family has an important role in this, because no matter what state they are in, the family will definitely accept it if they want to change for the better, also of course they will provide the best support to encourage them to change for the better. Even though the healing process is painful for them if they really want to change, they will definitely do it, even if it takes a long time they will definitely do it, because it should be everyone who is addicted to something that is not good, they should be able to leave their bad habits, it is also impossible for them to continue to be addicted to old age which will certainly harm them even though they have a lot of money, there is nothing wrong with dying of addictions that harm themselves.

Yes, that's right, by telling what he experienced to other people and asking for advice and solutions to overcome the problems that occurred, maybe they can provide solutions to overcome his problems and also provide a way out, so if it's like that, it's just how someone does it and don't forget to consider it so that nothing else happens. Of course, if it affects other people it is very unnatural, because other people who don't know anything but are affected. Naturally, they themselves must accept the impact of what they have done themselves. It is indeed difficult to find their point of consciousness, because their thoughts are already filled with their addiction that makes their thoughts not think of anything else, not to mention that they have a stubborn nature which is certainly not happy if advised by others by not being able to accept themselves being advised, even though other people who advise them are not just lip service but for their good too. Maybe it's true what you said, they have to feel something so big or whatever it is that can make them realize by themselves. If indeed other people cannot make them aware then there is no more solution except for them themselves who must be aware of their wrong behavior that has also made themselves lose themselves.

Okay I see what you mean now, so they don't need to be at the bottom to realize. "unless eventually he experiences something that makes him enlightened and finally able to realize his mistake.". Then this sentence doesn't mean the lowest point. And it's hard to get to the point of realization from gambling.

Relax buddy, I just didn't understand what you were saying before. it's not a big mistake, it's just that it can make other people misunderstand like me.

In fact, if someone can gamble responsibly, he will not feel any burden because he will only think about getting pleasure from gambling and will not chase after winning. He also will not be addicted to continuing gambling because he feels that gambling is entertainment. If he has had that pleasure, he will immediately stop gambling without feeling that he has to reach his break-even point before he gambles. He can enjoy his gambling games and will pay attention to his health because, for him, gambling must be done in a relaxed way so he can enjoy his gambling time. Gambling has serious impacts on gamblers who cannot control themselves, so responsible gamblers will not want to take the risk of being affected and will always be careful when gambling.

Gambling in the middle of the night is actually okay as long as he can manage his gambling time and not gamble for too long because he also needs rest so that the next day, he can return to his usual activities. That's assuming he has a lot of activity, so he has self-control in gambling in the middle of the night. He will take care of himself while gambling and will not lose control of himself until he gambles too much because he knows that what he does at night is just to enjoy the short time before he sleeps. However, if he has a busy activity schedule the next day, he will not force himself to gamble but will immediately rest because he is more concerned with his activities the next day than gambling.


Addiction to gambling or drugs has a fatal impact because he cannot think clearly about what he is doing and only wants to gamble or do drugs while enjoying his time. Maybe seeing a psychiatrist won't be able to provide a solution to the addiction, especially if the addiction is already in the serious category. They may have to undergo isolation first to make them aware and open their minds that they have a serious gambling addiction so that they can realize it and regret it. After their condition is completely calm and they can accept their situation, maybe the psychiatrist can start to come in and make them aware so that they can undergo each healing session. In this phase, they may begin to receive advice or instructions about what they should do before undergoing a therapy session so that they are ready when they start therapy. In his initial condition up to this point, it would actually have been better if he had his family who continued to accompany him so that he could see that he was not alone in struggling to overcome his addiction problem, but that he had his family who continued to encourage him that he was able to overcome it. However, the process of healing this addiction will be painful for them because they have to start their lives from the beginning again and get rid of the effects of their addiction that are already attached to them. Perhaps this process will take a long time, depending on how prepared he is to undergo the healing process. If his family can accompany him, perhaps he will be more enthusiastic about going through each process.

Every problem can be solved well, and it depends on how we think about how to solve it. If they have difficulty finding a solution, they can tell the people around them so they can find a way or solution. They won't have difficulty finding a solution because the people around them have helped them, so they can immediately start implementing the solution while evaluating the changes. Everyone who is addicted can definitely be cured. It depends on the person who is addicted because if he doesn't feel addicted, other people won't be able to help him and will probably only see him becoming more and more addicted. This is dangerous because he can make his life dangerous and can have an impact on the people around him. If he had a stubborn nature, it wouldn't be easy to advise him because he would defend himself unless he finally experienced something that made him enlightened and finally able to realize his mistakes.

You have to understand the previous sentence so you understand what I wrote. What I mean is that maybe they can regularly exercise outside while breathing fresh air every morning or evening and also make another schedule that can be done regularly so that they can't think about gambling like before. They also don't need to be at their lowest point to gain enlightenment.

I forgot to add the word "but" in the part that most of them need to experience falling to rock bottom so they can gain enlightenment about the mistakes they made, gain awareness, and grow the desire to start changing their lives for the better. That's what makes you misunderstand what I mean. Forgive me.

We should be able to trust ourselves so that we can control ourselves well, but the problem is we lose self-control in gambling after winning or winning, which causes us to experience gambling addiction. And that is also why we cannot stop gambling easily because we are still thinking about chasing wins or recovering the losses we experience. If someone loses self-control in gambling and becomes addicted to gambling and a family member finds out about this, that will disappoint them and will make it difficult for them to cure that person.

People probably won't think about why they have to gamble, whereas if they don't gamble, their lives won't be a problem, and they can even save money for their future. Maybe it is true that they gamble because they are curious to see if other people can make money from gambling, so they are curious and want to try it. But it turns out their fate is different from other people's, where they don't win but instead suffer a lot of losses until they end up addicted. If this is the case, they will find it difficult to stop gambling.

If everything can be handled without any conviction then yeah I can also presume that they can be called a professional who shares everything in terms of strategy and skills, it's possible and it does exist since there are parents who are open to their activities and allow their kids to be involved when the time comes for them,

I guess it's not as easy as it is but then again if there's open communication and part of the family is open in the sense that they really communicate and they are good in terms of coordinating their moves and involvements with one another.

Yes of course not all families support gambling. Very few families support gambling and everyone enjoys gambling together.  Because they know how dangerous gambling is. It gives financial advice to everyone but on the contrary causes financial loss to everyone.  And everyone goes gambling with the intention of becoming financially strong fast. In this way, they become addicted to gambling and suffer extremely. And families who support gambling can never live in peace

I think most families will not support gambling activities, because many people have a bad point of view on gambling which harms others rather than benefits, and I think even rich people who have a lot of money and abundant assets if they don't like gambling and one of their family members is addicted to gambling, I don't think they will let it go, I think they will act to advise them and provide explanations about gambling which can harm themselves as well as harm others in the future. As you said, the biggest mistake is to make gambling as the main income this is what makes them addicted, because with the desire to get a big win makes them addicted to losing a lot of money to gamble, if only they could gamble with just fun, maybe many people would not be addicted to gambling, but indeed the attraction and temptation of gambling is strong, so it is easy to attract people to continue gambling endlessly.

Quitting gambling is very difficult and when family members are gambling friendly and everyone in the family enjoys gambling together it is almost impossible to quit gambling. Because the main reason for someone to give up gambling is the pressure of family members. However, where family members support gambling, it will be much more difficult for a family member of that family to quit gambling. Gambling is fun but many consider it as a way of income. And they think that maybe he will win something big by gambling but in the end he loses nothing.

If a family member indulges in gambling, if that family member shares the betting with another member, others can certainly claim his gambling money. The issue of regular gambling is kept secret in most of the families because everyone does not support gambling. But in families where gambling can be openly talked about, the members are definitely responsible gamblers, so they can easily share their gambling. I will never share my gambling as this will hinder my gambling. I think gambling matters can be shared on the basis of the situation. In a family where gamblers can share their gambling without any hesitation they may belong on the list of professional gamblers.

Agree with you mate and yes we are all know that quiting in gambling we can say is that it's both of it hard and easy  but the majority here is hard, as we are all know that it takes time once a addict overcome it leave in gambling cause it will need more discipline and self control in order to pursue thier aim which is to leave in gambling. While those mild gamblers it's easy for them to quit in gambling as they don't take it seriously and they will gamble for sun only not aiming for the money they will earn once they will win.